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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 price?
jlcmcg <JLC@...>
Present base price is 771 000 euros (Sail Fair at LaRochelle last
week), a beautiful boat. Jerome (SM N°432) - In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Shann, Mark V" <shannmv@b...> wrote: Italian sailing magazine quotes basic cost of Amel 54 at 650,000euros. Associated article was posted on this website about 1 month ago,hope usefulRandall Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:37 PMlist. I don't own an Amel but am scheming and plotting to change that.I'm a 53yr old retired fairly poor Brit, married to a Californian ladywho has decided she likes sailing. (We bought a house on a canal down inFlorida and a little Hunter 30 to try her out). I have been sailing sinceteens. to selling up and living aboard for my last few active years. I'm justseen the 54 which looks rather tasty in the video,list already.funds are in USD, but I'm curious.~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! yourhome page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM~->
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 price?
Shann, Mark V <shannmv@...>
Italian sailing magazine quotes basic cost of Amel 54 at 650,000 euros.
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Associated article was posted on this website about 1 month ago, hope useful Mark (maramu Synnefoula)
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Randall Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:37 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 price? Hi, Firstly I guess I'd better give a little intro as I'm new to this list. I don't own an Amel but am scheming and plotting to change that. I'm a 53yr old retired fairly poor Brit, married to a Californian lady who has decided she likes sailing. (We bought a house on a canal down in Florida and a little Hunter 30 to try her out). I have been sailing since teens. I have been admiring SMs from afar for the last 2 years with a view to selling up and living aboard for my last few active years. I'm just about to start looking seriously for a used SM and have of course seen the 54 which looks rather tasty in the video, How much is it / will it be? Any ideas how fast they build them? I saw reference to a waiting list already. Probably completely out of my budget, especially as most of my funds are in USD, but I'm curious. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links I think before I S.E.N.D eMail - do you? Visit the eMailAdvantage site on the BP Intranet http://emailadvantage.bpweb.bp.com
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What do you liveaboards carry in the way of insurance?
Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
Depends entirely on where you live or sail as well as the value of the
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yacht. Recently was quoted a premium of just over $6,000 per year for only 500k coverage in Caribbean (requirement of NOT being within hurricane box during season July through Nov). This quote was for a 2003 SM2. Received comparable quotes from both American Marine Services and IMIS for Jackline Policy. Judy Rouse
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Randall Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 3:40 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] What do you liveaboards carry in the way of insurance? Can you give me a rough idea of how much I should allow for? Husband and wife normal crew. Are their any brokers that give preferential rates to Amels?
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What do you liveaboards carry in the way of insurance?
Patrick Randall <Patrick.Randall@...>
Can you give me a rough idea of how much I should allow for?
Husband and wife normal crew. Are their any brokers that give preferential rates to Amels?
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Amel 54 price?
Patrick Randall <Patrick.Randall@...>
Hi,
Firstly I guess I'd better give a little intro as I'm new to this list. I don't own an Amel but am scheming and plotting to change that. I'm a 53yr old retired fairly poor Brit, married to a Californian lady who has decided she likes sailing. (We bought a house on a canal down in Florida and a little Hunter 30 to try her out). I have been sailing since teens. I have been admiring SMs from afar for the last 2 years with a view to selling up and living aboard for my last few active years. I'm just about to start looking seriously for a used SM and have of course seen the 54 which looks rather tasty in the video, How much is it / will it be? Any ideas how fast they build them? I saw reference to a waiting list already. Probably completely out of my budget, especially as most of my funds are in USD, but I'm curious.
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Amel 54 impressions
rjct2002
I had a look at the new Amel 54 at the Cannes boat show today. I was
very impressed - they've fixed nearly everything that was wrong (in my opinion) with the SM. Waterline length is longer, sail area is bigger. I expect it'll be more spritely in light airs. The cockpit has been improved with an extendable spray hood that comes out of the windshield. The cockpit table is bigger and stronger. The stern is much wider with a nice bathing area. The wider stern means it is now possible to fite decent davits - and the yard will do this as an option. There is much more natural light in the interior thanks to lots of new portholes and hatches. The wood is lighter coloured, and fiddles etc are more modern. It no longer resembles a retirement home for submariners. The stern cabin is more spacious thanks to the wider stern. The forecabin is modular and can be either one large cabin, or can be split into two cabins with a folding partition. The washing machine and dryer are in the forepeak. There is now a huge fridge/freezer where the washing machine used to be in the kitchen. The nav table is now forward spacing and has a decent armchair. There is now a choice of instruments - buyer can specify Furuno or Raymarine. It is a much nicer boat all round. The wider stern makes the cabin below considerably bigger.
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sumore54--doesnt accept mail
eric freedman
sumore54@yahoo.com
please e-mail me with a correct address thanks eric kimberlite
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Zinc anodes
rogerhbanks <roger.banks@...>
Having just done the antifouling stint, other owners may be interested to hear what we
worked out with an engineering adviser about earthing. The reason there is only a single pair of anodes, i.e. on the rudder, is that the loom of earthing straps on the boat connects to the anode pair. I've checked this with a multimeter. It has overcome my concern that there didn't seem to be any zinc protection for the prop and shaft, nor any room to attach an anode direct to the shaft. Whilst the modern advice on galvanic corrosion, especially in marinas, is for each thru-hull to be separated from the others, clearly every other thing which is attached to the prop shaft either directly or by liquid, e.g. engine block, fuel tanks, metal parts of the engine water inlet system, and the outer brass tube of the prop shaft system, needs to be protected, which I have achieved by checking the integrity of their connections to the rudder anodes. There is, of course, the small zinc in the heat exchanger but this is tiny, even if owners do remember to change it. Regards Roger, Mango 28 Zorba
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Re: Faux teak
rogerhbanks <roger.banks@...>
With respect, I don't think the posted entries seem to deal with the faux teak itself or the
coach roof. There are plenty of comments on the stripes, which is helpful. In my case, the previous owner painted (rather poorly) over all the decking (including stripes), coach roof and cockpit with white paint, which I'm keen to change back, if possible, to original or something approximating to it. Is it perhaps the case that the faux teak is a stick-on pre- printed material which cannot be restored or re-gained? Like the posting two days ago, I would be very grateful to receive any guidance on this subject. Regards Roger, Mango 28 of 1982 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John and Anne on Bali Hai" <hollamby@c...> wrote: This subject has come up before. Go to the bottom of the page and type
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Goran
eric freedman
Mail is not accepted at your address please send me a correct
address back channel. Thanks eric kimberlite at optonline.net --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote: Goran,Svensson Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:45 PMsale. SM, very little used with low engine hours. It has only been sailedacross the Atlantic directly after delivery in 2003 and after that usedby us for about 2 months total during winter and spring 2004 and 2005.Inthe hurricane season the yacht has been stored in a protected boatyard. The list of optional equipment is very extensive.not paid)subject=Unsubscribe>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 2000 Year 2003, # 396 is now for sale.
eric freedman
Goran,
My friend is looking for an amel. Please e-mail me the info at Kimberlite@optonline.net. Thanks Eric _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Göran Svensson Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:45 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM 2000 Year 2003, # 396 is now for sale. This is an opportunity to obtain a very well maintained `as new' SM, very little used with low engine hours. It has only been sailed across the Atlantic directly after delivery in 2003 and after that used by us for about 2 months total during winter and spring 2004 and 2005.In the hurricane season the yacht has been stored in a protected boat yard. The list of optional equipment is very extensive. Location: Bradenton, Florida. Asked price $ 595.000 (European VAT not paid) Don't hesitate to ask for specifications and photos. Kind regards Göran Svensson _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners>; " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; Terms of Service. _____ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Noisy outhaul drive on main boom
eric freedman
Roy,
The winch is mounted to the boom. It does not come off with the shaft. Just remove the nut on the top of the arm which is attached to the shaft on top of the winch, and pound away with a sledge. You might bend a bolt or two as s/s is a little soft for hammering. Make sure you have a long bolt for this hammering. Fair winds, Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rbenven44 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 1:37 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Noisy outhaul drive on main boom --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote: Graham,hole in the bottom of the shaft and driving it up with a heavy sledge hammer. Aregular hammer or mallet will not work. The shaft came loose and I sandedthe rust off of it and replaced it with a thick film of white lube.When you hit the bolt with the sledge hammer, which shaft came loose? the one holding the Andersen winch? It sounds as if instead of dropping the gearbox, you raised the winch. Is this right? I'm about to try it, and would appreciate as much detail as you can provide. Thanks to you and Graham for your input!! Roy, Excalibur SM #195 packing up completely! Fortunately the manual over ride system in the SM worksquite well. I tried to remove the gear box yesterday using a puller - youundo the bolt underneath the gear box connected to the vertical shaft thatattaches directly to the rope drum and then you "pull the gear box down".Amel told me that it would probably be very stiff and that most likely Iwould have to remove the boom and take it to a work shop with a hydraulic puller.It appears that they are right! For your information it is thehorizontal spindle that connects to the motor that has failed on my boat. Amelweren't a bit surprised at this as my boat is 10 yrs old and depending onmileage gear boxes regularly fail at 5 yrs. Let me know how you get on, Iwill be using a manual outhaul now until the boat comes ashore for thewinter, new Yahoo! Security Centre.t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3= Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q>t=ms&k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yac ht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> yacht t=ms&k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=Ame l&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w>t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+y acht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA> sailingsubject=Unsubscribe>
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Faux teak
John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
This subject has come up before. Go to the bottom of the page and type
in faux teak and hit search to see all the postings. As an alternative get an estimate for covering with TEK-DEK which is a sort of cork planking. Probably costly but would look good and would keep the deck from getting so hot in the tropics. Regards, Anne and John
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discoloration of the "fake teak" decking
mike_ondra <mondra@...>
We are in the process of purchasing a 1999 SM. The "fake teak"
decking in the bow area show discoloration, spotty lightening of the color. How colorfast is this material and is there a color restoration technique other than painting?
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SM 2000 Year 2003, # 396 is now for sale.
Göran Svensson
This is an opportunity to obtain a very well maintained `as new' SM,
very little used with low engine hours. It has only been sailed across the Atlantic directly after delivery in 2003 and after that used by us for about 2 months total during winter and spring 2004 and 2005.In the hurricane season the yacht has been stored in a protected boat yard. The list of optional equipment is very extensive. Location: Bradenton, Florida. Asked price $ 595.000 (European VAT not paid) Don't hesitate to ask for specifications and photos. Kind regards Göran Svensson
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Amel 54
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
You may have seen the new Amel website www.amel.fr/pages-amel54.htm
click on Amel 54 and watch the video.Ian & Judy Jenkins , Pen Azen, Piriapolis
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Noisy outhaul drive on main boom
rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote:
Graham,hole in the bottom of the shaft and driving it up with a heavy sledge hammer. Aregular hammer or mallet will not work. The shaft came loose and I sandedthe rust off of it and replaced it with a thick film of white lube.When you hit the bolt with the sledge hammer, which shaft came loose? the one holding the Andersen winch? It sounds as if instead of dropping the gearbox, you raised the winch. Is this right? I'm about to try it, and would appreciate as much detail as you can provide. Thanks to you and Graham for your input!! Roy, Excalibur SM #195 packing up completely! Fortunately the manual over ride system in the SM worksquite well. I tried to remove the gear box yesterday using a puller - youundo the bolt underneath the gear box connected to the vertical shaft thatattaches directly to the rope drum and then you "pull the gear box down".Amel told me that it would probably be very stiff and that most likely Iwould have to remove the boom and take it to a work shop with a hydraulic puller.It appears that they are right! For your information it is thehorizontal spindle that connects to the motor that has failed on my boat. Amelweren't a bit surprised at this as my boat is 10 yrs old and depending onmileage gear boxes regularly fail at 5 yrs. Let me know how you get on, Iwill be using a manual outhaul now until the boat comes ashore for thewinter, new Yahoo! Security Centre.t=ms&k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3= Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q>t=ms&k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yac ht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> yacht t=ms&k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=Ame l&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w>t=ms&k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+y acht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA> sailingsubject=Unsubscribe>
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Amel 54
John and Anne Hollamby <hollamby@...>
Just to report that Amel have now put something on their web site
www.amel.fr It includes a 5 minute 20 second video but forget that unless you are on broadband as the download would take forever on a dial up connection. Overall it is much less detailed than the old SM 2000 site. Sail on, Anne and John Bali Hai SM 317
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Noisy outhaul drive on main boom
eric freedman
Graham,
I removed the shaft by placing a long steel bolt in the threaded hole in the bottom of the shaft and driving it up with a heavy sledge hammer. A regular hammer or mallet will not work. The shaft came loose and I sanded the rust off of it and replaced it with a thick film of white lube. Fair winds, Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu 376 _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Boyd Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 4:42 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Noisy outhaul drive on main boom I have just had exactly the same and it resulted in the gear box packing up completely! Fortunately the manual over ride system in the SM works quite well. I tried to remove the gear box yesterday using a puller - you undo the bolt underneath the gear box connected to the vertical shaft that attaches directly to the rope drum and then you "pull the gear box down". Amel told me that it would probably be very stiff and that most likely I would have to remove the boom and take it to a work shop with a hydraulic puller. It appears that they are right! For your information it is the horizontal spindle that connects to the motor that has failed on my boat. Amel weren't a bit surprised at this as my boat is 10 yrs old and depending on mileage gear boxes regularly fail at 5 yrs. Let me know how you get on, I will be using a manual outhaul now until the boat comes ashore for the winter, Graham Boyd SM 140 Sula rbenven44 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi there, We have developed a loud noise when using the outhaul drive on the main boom. It is coming from the gearbox area, as it is there even when the rope is removed. I have tried lubricating the gearbox, but would prefer to remove it from the boom to do this thoroughly. Has anyone done this? Or otherwise solved this problem? Thanks for any ideas. Roy on Excalibur, SM #195 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. SPONSORED LINKS Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3= Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=PlhCW0zvsb13KReuHX3A-Q> Sailing <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Sailing+yacht&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yac ht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=SzbkQjL-eN7E93cbJzL0eQ> yacht Amel <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Amel&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+yacht&w3=Ame l&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=pKnE4krYP80ImoJWH3305w> Boating <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?t=ms&;k=Boating+sailing&w1=Sailing&w2=Sailing+y acht&w3=Amel&w4=Boating+sailing&c=4&s=63&.sig=-PqrRug6_9dlpPCqNcYXvA> sailing _____ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "amelyachtowners <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners>; " on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>; Terms of Service. _____
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Noisy outhaul drive on main boom
Graham Boyd
I have just had exactly the same and it resulted in the gear box packing up completely! Fortunately the manual over ride system in the SM works quite well. I tried to remove the gear box yesterday using a puller - you undo the bolt underneath the gear box connected to the vertical shaft that attaches directly to the rope drum and then you "pull the gear box down". Amel told me that it would probably be very stiff and that most likely I would have to remove the boom and take it to a work shop with a hydraulic puller. It appears that they are right! For your information it is the horizontal spindle that connects to the motor that has failed on my boat. Amel weren't a bit surprised at this as my boat is 10 yrs old and depending on mileage gear boxes regularly fail at 5 yrs. Let me know how you get on, I will be using a manual outhaul now until the boat comes ashore for the winter,
Graham Boyd SM 140 Sula rbenven44 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi there, We have developed a loud noise when using the outhaul drive on the main boom. It is coming from the gearbox area, as it is there even when the rope is removed. I have tried lubricating the gearbox, but would prefer to remove it from the boom to do this thoroughly. Has anyone done this? Or otherwise solved this problem? Thanks for any ideas. Roy on Excalibur, SM #195 Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
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