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Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] ventilation

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Dorades are not usefull, even in the Caribean where I am based.
 
With a  number of fans and opened hatches, it is confortable inside.
 
A bimini top over the cockpit is mandatory for confort.
 
The disadvantage of the hatches is that, they must be  closed when it rains. I have explored automatic closing systems, but I have not found the perfect system. If I do not have guests, the main salon and forward cabin hatches are closed at night or if there is no one aboard.
 
Many friends have secured canvas covers which allows them to keep opened the forward and the rear cabin hatches when anchoring or at the dock. I intend to have  them one day.
 
A added hatch over the rear cabin is helpfull, but it only alliviates the use of the fan and clutters the deck. The Hella fans are not noisy, but without the fan you can hear all the noises...
 
The only problem is the color of the decks which attracts and holds heat; as many older Amel owners in these waters, I  plan to change the color of my deck, to attract and hold less heat and make it possible to walk on same without shoes during the day.
 
Of course I do not feel the heat when I operate my air conditioning unit, but that is another issue.
 
Serge, SV Opera,  Mango # 51

--- En date de : Ven, 14.11.08, c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yahoo.com> a écrit :

De: c_fruendt <c_fruendt@yah  oo.com>
Objet: [Amel Yacht Owners] ventilation
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: vendredi 14 Novembre 2008, 2 h 53






Hi from germany, i just comming back from the med and had the chance to
visit and check several Maramus and SM, santortin and even the new 54.
You can find one or two them in every marina. What nobody could really
clarify is how good is the ventilation under tropical condition,
ofcourse hatches are there opening in to the front but no dorade vents.

How does it work in the tropics with rain showers and at sea. Normally
i assume that several dorade vents are necessary to get some air into
the boat. Would appreciate some first hand experiences.

I will go for a Maramu or Santorin in future.

Best regards
















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Water in Amel Drive

ronnie_shapiro <ronnie_shapiro@...>
 

Our boat, SHAPIRIT, SM2000 #325 has apparently broken the prop-shaft
seal and sea-water has entered the drive box, emulsifying with the gear
oil.
The boat is between Singapore and Phuket, and may need up to 50 more
engine hrs to reach a convenient haul-out facility, to rectify the
situation.
Has anyone had such experience and/or the ability to estimate the
amount of damage, if any, that may be caused ??


ventilation

c_fruendt
 

Hi from germany, i just comming back from the med and had the chance to
visit and check several Maramus and SM, santortin and even the new 54.
You can find one or two them in every marina. What nobody could really
clarify is how good is the ventilation under tropical condition,
ofcourse hatches are there opening in to the front but no dorade vents.

How does it work in the tropics with rain showers and at sea. Normally
i assume that several dorade vents are necessary to get some air into
the boat. Would appreciate some first hand experiences.

I will go for a Maramu or Santorin in future.

Best regards


Chain Counter Sensor

Ian Shepherd
 

I have bought a replacement chain counter sensor from Pochon for my Super Maramu. It is the orange cylindrical type that fits into a black round housing on the port side of the Lofrans Tigres windlass. Olivier Beaute tells me that it is easy to replace as the orange insert simply pushes out of the back housing. However how this is achieved is not immediately obvious. Can this be done by leaving the housing in place and removing the rope side of the windlass? Does anything have to be undone first and how do you actually push the sensor out?

Any tips would be appreciated. I hope that the new sensor cures the long standing problem!

Ian Shepherd SM 414 'Crusader'



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Re: Heaters

José Gabriel Venegas <jgvenegas@...>
 

I found the dealer for Quick in the USA

QUICK USA LLC
21061 Glen Burnie, Maryland
509, McCormick Drive

Contacts:
PHILLIP SCOTT RHUDY

Tel. +1.410.768.5991
Fax +1.410.768.5995
Toll-free 877.768.5991

and they have all the parts I need.

My only problem is that I will be away from my boat until december and have no way to
know the type of heating element in the boat.

Can anybody tell me whether the element in SM2000 is a 1200 W or 500W.

I still don't know the dealer for the air heater.


Jose Gabriel

IPANEMA SM 278

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, José Gabriel Venegas <jgvenegas@...> wrote:

I am the new owner of SM 278 and preparing her for a maden cruise from Savannah Ga
to
the Bahamas this December returning to Charleston at the end of January.

Last week I noted problems with two of the heaters.

1) When I turned the water heater the main 220 circuit breaker tripped.
I imagine the heating element or the thermostat went bad and are in short circuit.

2) The heating element of the air conditioning/heater on the central cabine is not
working.
The airconditioning unit and the fan work fine but the heater does not heat.

Since winter is rapidly upon us, I need take care of these problems because it can get
pretty
cold in Savannah, particularly at night.

Any body knows of a distributor in the US were I can get spares for both heaters.

Looking forward to seeing you out there

Jose Gabriel
IPANEMA SM 278


Re: Proper Pronunciation?

rossirossix4
 

What would that be phonetically?
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Battaglini Ornella Barbara"
<ornella.battaglini@...> wrote:

Bob
the correct frech pronunciation of Santorin is Santorèn
Ornella
Santorin 122 Earendil
----- Original Message -----
From: rossirossix4
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:31 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Proper Pronunciation?


Thanks Craig,

How about the pronunciation of Santorin?

Bob Santorin #86 "Brittany de la Mer"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Craig & Katherine"
<sangaris@> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> That would be "Ah-mel" with the "a" pronounced in the European
fashion,
> as in "father"; not the hard American "Ay-mel" (with a hard "a"
as
> in "say"). And the emphasis should be equal of each syllable,
(which,
> to the American ear, sounds like the last syllable is being
stressed.)
>
> Regardless of how you say it, it's still superb!
>
> Cheers,
> Craig - Santorin #68 "Sangaris"
>






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Heaters

José Gabriel Venegas <jgvenegas@...>
 

I am the new owner of SM 278 and preparing her for a maden cruise from Savannah Ga to
the Bahamas this December returning to Charleston at the end of January.

Last week I noted to problems with two heaters.

1) When I turned the water heater the main 220 circuit breaker tripped.
I imagine the heating element or the thermostat went bad and are in short circuit.

2) The heating element of the air conditioning/heater on the central cabine is not working.
The airconditioning unit and the fan work fine but the heater does not heat.

Since winter is rapidly upon us, I need take care of these problems because it can get pretty
cold in Savannah, particularly at night.

Any body knows of a distributor in the US were I can get spares for both heaters.

Looking forward to seeing you out there

Jose Gabriel
IPANEMA SM 278


Re: Euros 1971

airbus4russ <russ.roberts.va@...>
 

Please share your comments about purchasing and operating an older
Euros. In your estimation is this vessel type, when properly equipt,
suitable for long ocean crossings?

Anything you can share about the Euros type is appreciated.

Thanks,
Russ


Re: Maramu main traveller

woodsdeborah_56 <woodsdeborah_56@...>
 

Dave
Can I ask are you talking about the mainsheet traveller?If so our
original ia adjusted with locking stops either side of the car and
does not have control lines

Deb
Orion1 Maramu #42




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin"
<dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Greetings,

On our Maramu (#29) the previous owner retrofitted a Harken traveller
on top of the existing Goiot track. He reused some of the original
fittings to create standoffs of sorts but the arrangement is too weak
for offshore sailing. In fact one fitting failed due to poor welding.
So we have two choices. One is to properly retrofit the Harken and the
other is to go back to using the original track.

I am asking the Amel community for some assistance. If anyone could
take some pictures of an original Goiot traveller showing the car, end
fittings, and how the control lines are led that would be awesome.

Secondly if anyone has retrofitted a Harken big boat traveller I'd
like to hear how it was done and how well it's worked out operationally.


Maramu main traveller

Dave_Benjamin
 

Greetings,

On our Maramu (#29) the previous owner retrofitted a Harken traveller
on top of the existing Goiot track. He reused some of the original
fittings to create standoffs of sorts but the arrangement is too weak
for offshore sailing. In fact one fitting failed due to poor welding.
So we have two choices. One is to properly retrofit the Harken and the
other is to go back to using the original track.

I am asking the Amel community for some assistance. If anyone could
take some pictures of an original Goiot traveller showing the car, end
fittings, and how the control lines are led that would be awesome.

Secondly if anyone has retrofitted a Harken big boat traveller I'd
like to hear how it was done and how well it's worked out operationally.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Proper Pronunciation?

Battaglini Ornella Barbara <ornella.battaglini@...>
 

Bob
the correct frech pronunciation of Santorin is Santorèn
Ornella
Santorin 122 Earendil

----- Original Message -----
From: rossirossix4
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:31 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Proper Pronunciation?


Thanks Craig,

How about the pronunciation of Santorin?

Bob Santorin #86 "Brittany de la Mer"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Craig & Katherine"
<sangaris@...> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> That would be "Ah-mel" with the "a" pronounced in the European
fashion,
> as in "father"; not the hard American "Ay-mel" (with a hard "a" as
> in "say"). And the emphasis should be equal of each syllable, (which,
> to the American ear, sounds like the last syllable is being stressed.)
>
> Regardless of how you say it, it's still superb!
>
> Cheers,
> Craig - Santorin #68 "Sangaris"
>






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Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rivets in furler

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi, given that the holes are that big I'd do the same... I am not a big fan of using different metals together. And max strength is not at at issue here so long as we do a good job with the rope used to hold down the sail. I use 3/8" StaSet and put at least on wrap around the roller to hold the sail to it, then run 3-4 rounds to thread it to the roller base. that has not failed me and takes the load off the rivets..

Yes Porto Vecchio is a well protected and we think it is about a good as we can get in the Med. Price is 2600 EU for everything. That is better then anyplace we checked. Turkey we 4600... We have been there when the wind in Straight is over 30 and not a wave inside.. it is great. There is shoping in walking range and a number of good places to eat.. then there is the old time gym to workout in.. I am down 30# Joan keeps me move'n.
Enjoy you turkey day.. keep in touch and fair winds.
Richard and Joan on Challenge

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, sailw32@aol.com <sailw32@aol.com> wrote:

From: sailw32@aol.com <sailw32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rivets in furler
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 7:32 PM
Richard, I was told that the monel rivets would not be a
problem with
aluminum and would be stronger.Do you agree with that .I
will probably leave the
s.s set screws in, because the holes were drilled out to
3/8'' and so far no
corrosion. Diane earth goggled where you guys are, looks
well protected and
picturesque.


In a message dated 11/12/2008 7:08:31 P.M. Eastern Standard
Time,
richard03801@yahoo.com writes:




HI, given that the you have an aluminum element you should
use an aluminum
rivet. If you can take the SS set screws out and replace
them with the rivets.
You'll do better with this solution over the long haul.

good luck. Richard SM 209

--- On Mon, 11/10/08, _sailw32@aol.sai_
(mailto:sailw32@aol.com)
<_sailw32@aol.sai_ (mailto:sailw32@aol.com) > wrote:

From: _sailw32@aol.sai_ (mailto:sailw32@aol.com)
<_sailw32@aol.sai_
(mailto:sailw32@aol.com) >
Subject: Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rivets
in furler
To: _amelyachtowners@amelyachtowname_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com)
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 6:37 PM
Upon looking at my furler again today,I see that the
previous owner had done
what was suggested to you.He apparently tapped the
furler
and screwed a
stainless set screw in 3 of the existing holes.I have
about
3 rivets in place and
about 3 or 4 vacant holes.Now the question is ,
should I
adopt the set screw
solution or use rivets.Earlier someone wrote that the
rivets should be aluminium
or should they be monel, any opinions.


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Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rivets in furler

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

HI, given that the you have an aluminium element you should use an aluminium rivet. If you can take the SS set screws out and replace them with the rivets. You'll do better with this solution over the long haul.
good luck. Richard SM 209

--- On Mon, 11/10/08, sailw32@aol.com <sailw32@aol.com> wrote:

From: sailw32@aol.com <sailw32@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rivets in furler
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 6:37 PM
Upon looking at my furler again today,I see that the
previous owner had done
what was suggested to you.He apparently tapped the furler
and screwed a
stainless set screw in 3 of the existing holes.I have about
3 rivets in place and
about 3 or 4 vacant holes.Now the question is , should I
adopt the set screw
solution or use rivets.Earlier someone wrote that the
rivets should be aluminium
or should they be monel, any opinions.


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1980 Sharki For Sale USD $55,000

marinmeccanica <marinmeccanica@...>
 

Located in San Francisco Bay area.
Website here: http://homepage.mac.com/northp/sharki/sharki4sale.html
or see at sfbay.craigslist.org under boats.


Re: Proper Pronunciation?

Craig Briggs
 

Hi David,

Sorry, but the French reserve the correct pronounciation of "Santorin"
strictly to themselves!

Cheers,
Craig


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Goiot parts and seals - where to find in North America?

Don Henderson <maramu48@...>
 

Contact Bill Hansen at Navimo,USA, 7455 16th Street East, Sarasota, FL 34243, tel: 941-360-1888, ext 111,  whansen@navimousa.com for Goiot parts and gaskets. Anything they don't have in stock, he can order from France.

--- On Mon, 11/10/08, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Goiot parts and seals - where to find in North America?
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 2:33 PM






I need new rubber seals and few spare bits. Is there a reasonable
supplier in US or Canada?


















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Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rivets in furler

Patrick McAneny
 

Richard, I was told that the monel rivets would not be a problem with
aluminum and would be stronger.Do you agree with that .I will probably leave the
s.s set screws in, because the holes were drilled out to 3/8'' and so far no
corrosion. Diane earth goggled where you guys are, looks well protected and
picturesque.

In a message dated 11/12/2008 7:08:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
richard03801@yahoo.com writes:




HI, given that the you have an aluminum element you should use an aluminum
rivet. If you can take the SS set screws out and replace them with the rivets.
You'll do better with this solution over the long haul.
good luck. Richard SM 209

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<_sailw32@aol.sai_ (mailto:sailw32@aol.com) > wrote:

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(mailto:sailw32@aol.com) >
Subject: Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: rivets in furler
To: _amelyachtowners@amelyachtowname_
(mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com)
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 6:37 PM
Upon looking at my furler again today,I see that the
previous owner had done
what was suggested to you.He apparently tapped the furler
and screwed a
stainless set screw in 3 of the existing holes.I have about
3 rivets in place and
about 3 or 4 vacant holes.Now the question is , should I
adopt the set screw
solution or use rivets.Earlier someone wrote that the
rivets should be aluminium
or should they be monel, any opinions.


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Euros 1971

airbus4russ <russ.roberts.va@...>
 

Hello,

I'm interested in a project boat in NY. It's a '71 Amel Euros. Do any
of you know this boat? Whether you have or not, I am interested in any
comments on what I should know or look out for.

Regards,

Russ


Re: Proper Pronunciation?

rossirossix4
 

Thanks Craig,

How about the pronunciation of Santorin?

Bob Santorin #86 "Brittany de la Mer"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Craig & Katherine"
<sangaris@...> wrote:

Hi David,

That would be "Ah-mel" with the "a" pronounced in the European
fashion,
as in "father"; not the hard American "Ay-mel" (with a hard "a" as
in "say"). And the emphasis should be equal of each syllable, (which,
to the American ear, sounds like the last syllable is being stressed.)

Regardless of how you say it, it's still superb!

Cheers,
Craig - Santorin #68 "Sangaris"


Proper Pronunciation is Amel as in Ame(l)rica NOT Amel as in Anal? or

bootlegger@...
 

Hi David,

That would be "Ah-mel" with the "a" pronounced in the European fashion,
as in "father"; not the hard American "Ay-mel" (with a hard "a" as
in "say"). And the emphasis should be equal of each syllable, (which,
to the American ear, sounds like the last syllable is being stressed.)

Regardless of how you say it, it's still superb!

Cheers,
Craig - Santorin #68 "Sangaris"