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Antifouling and winter berthing in Spain

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

We have used Micron Extra for the past six years and are very happy
with it.It lasts for over two years provided that if the boat is
hauled out during that time we succeed in stopping the yard from
blasting it with high pressure hoses. We just wipe it down with a
soft cloth or sponge keeping it wet with a hose until the slime has
all been wiped off. We do use a high pressure hose to clean the hull
when it is hauled out to be anti fouled again but we are careful to
keep the end of the jet at least three feet or half a metre away from
the hull as Amel suspect that high pressure hoses are a major cause
of osmosis. If any growth appears during the season I wipe the hull
down with a soft sponge using SCUBA kit. I have a long pessure hose
to link me with the air bottle which remains on deck and find this
system good for cleaning the prop which is so sensitive to any growth.

There is a new marina being completed at Sant Carles de la Rapita on
the east coast of Spain about 90 miles north east of Mallorca and
about half way between Barcelona and Valencia. The developers are MDL
Ltd, a big player in the marina markets on the south coast of
England. All the pontoons are in place and the office building is
also in use. The hard standing area is under construction and a
travel hoist will be provided very soon. Berths are for sale or rent
and there is a special deal on offer as the marina is not complete
yet.Bali Hai is there on a pontoon pending completion of the hard
standing and the rate for winter storage for a 15 metre boat is only
about 1800 euros for October to end May 2009 including haul out and
launch. Power and water are not metered and will remain so. We are
told that it does not get cold enough to freeze water during the
winter. The location is very sheltered and I would not expect to see
a swell in the marina except perhaps in a strong south easterly and
probablly not even then.
Contact is n.salter@mdlmarinas.co.uk

Best wishes, Anne and John, SM319


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sharki Headroom?

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

David,
 
If you go to the Amel web page you will find the Sharki plans and specs under the "previous units" tab.
 
The plans do not show specific measurements, but there is a proportion reference, in meters, under one of th plans. From this reference you can approximate most measurements. 
 
Serge Tremblay Mango #51

--- En date de : Jeu, 6.11.08, WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@verizon.net> a écrit :

De: WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@verizon.net>
Objet: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sharki Headroom?
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: jeudi 6 Novembre 2008, 6 h 08






There is adequate hed room in the main salon forward but the master cabin at the stern has inadequate headroom for a 5'8" person. Probably has 5'5" or something in that vcinity if I recall from 10 years ago.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Adams
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:45 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sharki Headroom?

Hello folks,
How much headroom does a Sharki have? Does it go stem
to stern?

Thanks,

David

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sharki Headroom?

WILLIAM KLEIN <sidecar1@...>
 

There is adequate hed room in the main salon forward but the master cabin at the stern has inadequate headroom for a 5'8" person. Probably has 5'5" or something in that vcinity if I recall from 10 years ago.

----- Original Message -----
From: David Adams
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:45 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sharki Headroom?


Hello folks,
How much headroom does a Sharki have? Does it go stem
to stern?

Thanks,

David


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hard or Soft Antifouling

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Richard, 5 years on one application is amazing. Can you tell us
1.Was Spice in the water all the time?
2.How many miles a year, roughly, did you sail and which seas/oceans?
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: closereach@yahoo.com
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:55:27 +0000
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Hard or Soft Antifouling

Ok, one more opinion :-)
We had 5 years using one application of 2 coats of Interlux Micron 33
with excellent results; maybe it's available outside the USA as tin is
the 'active' ingredient and isn't allowed anymore on recreational
marine vessels. We applied Micron 66 ten months ago with great results
so far. Both are soft, or ablative, anti-fouling bottom paints.
Richard
SM #5 "Spice"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Armin" <n4796p@...> wrote:

Dear Richard and Joan,
thanks for your answer, it seams that there is no other opinion in the
whole forum. Therefore we will stay on the hard antifouling for the
next seasons.

Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Piller
<richard03801@> wrote:

We like Pettit Trinadad SR for an all around hard paint. It has
worked by far better then any of the "soft" stuff we have tried...
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corse for the winter


--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Armin <n4796p@> wrote:

From: Armin <n4796p@>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard or Soft Antifouling
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 3:47 PM
Hi all,
what are the suggestions of the group about using hard or
soft
antifouling. We are planning to do some longer sailing
trips
(Turkey-Gibraltar-Canaries-Caribic-....) next time. Which
kind of
antifouling will be the best to use? We where told to take
soft
antifouling, but I doubt.
Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357


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Re: Hard or Soft Antifouling

Zanareva
 

Ok, one more opinion :-)
We had 5 years using one application of 2 coats of Interlux Micron 33
with excellent results; maybe it's available outside the USA as tin is
the 'active' ingredient and isn't allowed anymore on recreational
marine vessels. We applied Micron 66 ten months ago with great results
so far. Both are soft, or ablative, anti-fouling bottom paints.
Richard
SM #5 "Spice"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Armin" <n4796p@...> wrote:

Dear Richard and Joan,
thanks for your answer, it seams that there is no other opinion in the
whole forum. Therefore we will stay on the hard antifouling for the
next seasons.

Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Piller
<richard03801@> wrote:

We like Pettit Trinadad SR for an all around hard paint. It has
worked by far better then any of the "soft" stuff we have tried...
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corse for the winter


--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Armin <n4796p@> wrote:

From: Armin <n4796p@>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard or Soft Antifouling
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 3:47 PM
Hi all,
what are the suggestions of the group about using hard or
soft
antifouling. We are planning to do some longer sailing
trips
(Turkey-Gibraltar-Canaries-Caribic-....) next time. Which
kind of
antifouling will be the best to use? We where told to take
soft
antifouling, but I doubt.
Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357


Re: Hard or Soft Antifouling

Armin <n4796p@...>
 

Dear Richard and Joan,
thanks for your answer, it seams that there is no other opinion in the
whole forum. Therefore we will stay on the hard antifouling for the
next seasons.

Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Piller
<richard03801@...> wrote:

We like Pettit Trinadad SR for an all around hard paint. It has
worked by far better then any of the "soft" stuff we have tried...
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corse for the winter


--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Armin <n4796p@...> wrote:

From: Armin <n4796p@...>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard or Soft Antifouling
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 3:47 PM
Hi all,
what are the suggestions of the group about using hard or
soft
antifouling. We are planning to do some longer sailing
trips
(Turkey-Gibraltar-Canaries-Caribic-....) next time. Which
kind of
antifouling will be the best to use? We where told to take
soft
antifouling, but I doubt.
Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357


Sharki Headroom?

David Adams <Wildernesstech@...>
 

Hello folks,
How much headroom does a Sharki have? Does it go stem
to stern?

Thanks,

David


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: main sail furl

Battaglini Ornella Barbara <ornella.battaglini@...>
 

Thanks Gary,
last week end we had bad wheather so we hope to make the job on saturday sure that your description will be very helpfull.
Bye
Ornella Barbara
Santorin 122 Earendil

----- Original Message -----
From: amelliahona
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:39 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: main sail furl


Barbara:

For photos and parts descriptions for the outhaul motor and gearbox see the photo's
section, page 4, SM Outhaul Service.
For a description of removing the outhaul and servicing the unit see message # 4019
where I describe that procedure.

Good Luck

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Battaglini Ornella Barbara"
<ornella.battaglini@...> wrote:
>
> Can amel people help me?
> this is the problem: when the electric engine on the boom is out of order, how can I
control by hand the main sail clew (foot)? and how is possible to disassemble the reducer
Bonfiglioli from the winch Andersen.
> Thanks for helps and good wind.
> Ornella, Santorin N° 122
>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Mr Olivier Beauté of the After Sale Service of Amel ( in french Service Après Vente or SAV) has replaced  Mr Sello who held this job for more than 3 decades.
 
I am not certain Mr Beauté has maintained the procedure followed by Mr Sello pursuant to which a written record was maintained for each and every boat produced by the yard. Any repair by the Amel yard or parts ordered from Amel for a specific boat was, at the time, added to the file.
 
When, I investigated 3 or 4 Amel boats listed for purchase in 2003, I was supprised to discover how much the SAV knew about the various units... However, obviously, the SAV does not know of work carried on by owners or other yards...so buyers beware 
 
A serious french surveyor  retained to advise on the purchase of a Amel, will routinely check with SAV for such record... It was the case with a surveyor of Guadeloupe, Mr Christian Mir.
 
Serge Tremblay, Mango #51

--- En date de : Mar, 4.11.08, William Klein <sidecar1@verizon.net> a écrit :

De: William Klein <sidecar1@verizon.net>
Objet: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: mardi 4 Novembre 2008, 14 h 52






They speak english at Amel. In the past they have been very helpful and it seemed like they knew my individual boat.

----- Original Message -----
From: passagemakersv_ friendship
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

We may be nearing the purchase of an Amel and would like to know what
type of support you have found from the factory, and any other good
parts source where Amels are concerned?

The one we are looking at needs work (Why I can afford it) and
unfortunately I do not speak French so talking to the factory seems
out.

What have you folks found?

David

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Re: bow thruster electrical failure

drdavegoodman
 

Hi Criag and all
The problem was in the on-off switch! thanks so much for the assistance.
Dave


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Craig & Katherine"
<sangaris@...> wrote:

Hi Dave,
Had same sounding problem - was just the on-off switch in the control
panel. Try putting a wire jumper across the switch terminals and see
if the red light goes on.
On mine, the rubber boot had cracked with time and allowed water into
the switch. Actually, just wiggling it a lot got it working, but I'll
now replace it (and the rubber boot).
Regards,
Craig Briggs, Santorin #68


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

David Adams <Wildernesstech@...>
 

Thanks Bill.

David

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William Klein
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:52 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

They speak english at Amel. In the past they have been very helpful and
it seemed like they knew my individual boat.
----- Original Message -----
From: passagemakersv_friendship
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

We may be nearing the purchase of an Amel and would like to know what
type of support you have found from the factory, and any other good
parts source where Amels are concerned?

The one we are looking at needs work (Why I can afford it) and
unfortunately I do not speak French so talking to the factory seems
out.

What have you folks found?

David


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership

William Klein <sidecar1@...>
 

They speak english at Amel. In the past they have been very helpful and it seemed like they knew my individual boat.

----- Original Message -----
From: passagemakersv_friendship
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:15 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Ownership


We may be nearing the purchase of an Amel and would like to know what
type of support you have found from the factory, and any other good
parts source where Amels are concerned?

The one we are looking at needs work (Why I can afford it) and
unfortunately I do not speak French so talking to the factory seems
out.

What have you folks found?

David


Amel Ownership

passagemakersv_friendship <Wildernesstech@...>
 

We may be nearing the purchase of an Amel and would like to know what
type of support you have found from the factory, and any other good
parts source where Amels are concerned?

The one we are looking at needs work (Why I can afford it) and
unfortunately I do not speak French so talking to the factory seems
out.

What have you folks found?

David


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster electrical failure

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Dave, there is a black box next to the motor when in the up position.  Open the box and clean the contacts.  And check that the micro switches are clean and workng.
Good luck. Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corse

--- On Sun, 11/2/08, drdavegoodman <drdavegoodman@gmail.com> wrote:

From: drdavegoodman <drdavegoodman@gmail.com>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster electrical failure
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2008, 6:42 AM






Greetings all.
My bowthruster on SM#230 suddenly failed.. The bowthruster is in the
up position. Flipped the control panel switch to the 'on position' to
lower the motor unit, and the control panel red light indicator did
not come on, and the motor to lower the bowthruster did not operate.
Its as if there is no power getting to either the control panel or
lowering motor unit. I checked the circuit breaker on the 24volt
electrical panel and that is working properly. Wonder what to do next
to trouble shoot the problem. Any ideas?
Thanks
Dave


Re: Boat Considerations... SM2K Hull 477 (year 2005) for sale

amir@...
 

Hi Everybody,

Friends, if anybody wants (or knows someone who wants) to buy a Super
Maramu 2000, please note hull #477 (year 2005) is now put for sale. [:(]
For details, see http://www.conforto.com

Ciao,

[:x] Ruti and [=;] Amir

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "passagemakersv_friendship"
<Wildernesstech@...> wrote:

Hey Folks,

We are looking at two boats for purchase; a Sharki and a
Euros. The Euros has the prop' in an aperature and may keep line
(lobster pots) out of it, plus it is cheaper. The Sharki is in the
same condition as the Euros (they both need work). The plans are
for the wife and I to step up from our Pearson Vanguard to one of
these boats for our off shore cruising. While there is a
considerable price difference, The Sharki is the more alluring of
the two. We don't need, and probably can't afford a larger boat
(got to preserve the cruising kitty). I sure could use some input!
I am boat and systems knowledgable, but not about Amels, and I don't
have to tell you about the lack of information about them. We had
been waffling about pilot house or not, and many other options that
the Amel line seems to agree with us on. I am 50 now, and really
don't wish to sit in the elements to helm any more than necessary
(I'll do it, but can't expect it out of the wife). With the
Vanguard we are planning to stick to the Caribbean, but with an Amel
the world opens up. Please tell us about any common problems and
what you think of the boats in general. Any owners of the above
boats who wouldn't mind further contact for a chat would also be
appreciated.

Thanks,
David & Brenda


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] bow thruster electrical failure

Peter Killen
 

Dave, it sounds as if the fuse located in a small junction box next to the
bowthruster has blown. That happened me in the past. Very simple to
replace. Regards, Peter SM Pure Magic

2008/11/2 drdavegoodman <drdavegoodman@gmail.com>

Greetings all.
My bowthruster on SM#230 suddenly failed.. The bowthruster is in the
up position. Flipped the control panel switch to the 'on position' to
lower the motor unit, and the control panel red light indicator did
not come on, and the motor to lower the bowthruster did not operate.
Its as if there is no power getting to either the control panel or
lowering motor unit. I checked the circuit breaker on the 24volt
electrical panel and that is working properly. Wonder what to do next
to trouble shoot the problem. Any ideas?
Thanks
Dave



Re: bow thruster electrical failure

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Dave,
Had same sounding problem - was just the on-off switch in the control
panel. Try putting a wire jumper across the switch terminals and see
if the red light goes on.
On mine, the rubber boot had cracked with time and allowed water into
the switch. Actually, just wiggling it a lot got it working, but I'll
now replace it (and the rubber boot).
Regards,
Craig Briggs, Santorin #68


bow thruster electrical failure

drdavegoodman
 

Greetings all.
My bowthruster on SM#230 suddenly failed.. The bowthruster is in the
up position. Flipped the control panel switch to the 'on position' to
lower the motor unit, and the control panel red light indicator did
not come on, and the motor to lower the bowthruster did not operate.
Its as if there is no power getting to either the control panel or
lowering motor unit. I checked the circuit breaker on the 24volt
electrical panel and that is working properly. Wonder what to do next
to trouble shoot the problem. Any ideas?
Thanks
Dave


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard or Soft Antifouling

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

We like Pettit Trinadad SR for an all around hard paint. It has worked by far better then any of the "soft" stuff we have tried...
Richard and Joan on Challenge in Corse for the winter

--- On Wed, 10/29/08, Armin <n4796p@yahoo.de> wrote:

From: Armin <n4796p@yahoo.de>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hard or Soft Antifouling
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 29, 2008, 3:47 PM
Hi all,
what are the suggestions of the group about using hard or
soft
antifouling. We are planning to do some longer sailing
trips
(Turkey-Gibraltar-Canaries-Caribic-....) next time. Which
kind of
antifouling will be the best to use? We where told to take
soft
antifouling, but I doubt.
Best regards
Armin
S/Y ASHIA
SM2k, #357


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Hi Haje,

When I took mine apart there was deffinately grease in it not oil. i have seen other postings were people have said the same thing. Several have suggested a heavy weight silicon based grease and at least one has said 90W gear oil. I filled mine with grease and it sems to be working fine. In the end it might be wise to contact Amel to be sure. Please let me know if you get an answer. Sorry I did not take any pictures when I had the unit apart.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Hajé
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 00:43
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart



Dear Tom,

Do you haven any photo's of the inside of the housing?

And what would be your advice graese or gearbox oil?

Thx, Hajé

From: Fisher, Thomas W.
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Morning Haje,

There is an aluminum plate on the bottom. remove the small screws and it should slide off over the bolts. I had to use a butter knife ground smooth and flat as a wedge between the plate and the housing to get it started. Once its off you will have access to lower end bearings and seal. The side rectangular access panel will let you get at the worm gear and the leaver. The leaver engages/ disengages the worm grear. The small circular panel allows you access to the worm gear bearings and seals.

Hope that helps!!

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com [mailto: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Etske Moerman Kroon
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 21:31
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Instruction on how to take the Sharki Furler apart

Dear Tom,

Thanks for the advice. I got the engine restored by our local
starterengine shop (costs EUR 400,00, but it was a rustdump before and
new now).
After a lot of WD40 the shear pin came out, but still the manual wheel
is stuck to the box. Therefore I released the bolts which hold the
aluminium profile to the wheel and now there sepparated.

After a day of WD40 and using ample force the box starts to move
again. The wheel turns on handforce and goes smoother every minute.
Only the lever doesn't get into gear anymore. Beneath the axial
conextion between the engine and the actual roller there's a aluminium
housing. How do I get into there? And what can I expect to find inside
(what kindof clutch etc.).

Thanks, Hajé

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