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Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

I made a "special tool" out of a piece of rigging wire...connected to an electric drill...it worked.

I will post photos later.

Bill
S/V BeBe, SM2 #387

My specific problem is:

With the large diameter hose removed, I cannot seen to dislodge the build up in the downward facing brass/bronze pipe. Since this is downward facing, it does not lend itself to acid.

Additionally, I do not know the configuration of this brass/bronze pipe. For instance does it go straight into the holding tank, or does it have an elbow. Knowing this will determine the amount of force it use and the type of tool.

Has anyone dealt with this situation?

All replies will be very much appreciated.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thanks for all of the replies.

Yes, I know about flushing time and vinegar, etc. The original buildup probably occured with the original owner.

My specific problem is:

With the large diameter hose removed, I cannot seen to dislodge the build up in the downward facing brass/bronze pipe. Since this is downward facing, it does not lend itself to acid.

Additionally, I do not know the configuration of this brass/bronze pipe. For instance does it go straight into the holding tank, or does it have an elbow. Knowing this will determine the amount of force it use and the type of tool.

Has anyone dealt with this situation?

All replies will be very much appreciated.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387


Davits "Boomerang" by Secteur Blanc on SM2000 #420

ferruccilorenzo <ferruccilorenzo@...>
 

Hi everybody, I have some troubles to fit my Avon 310 RIB on those davits. Does anyone of You have some pictures to let me know how to lift and fix the tender?

(The engine is a Yamaha 2 stroke 15 Hp, and I don't leave it on tender when I try to lift on davits).

Thanks a lot, Lorenzo.


Re: Head discharge hose clogged with calcification

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Once you get the old build up mostly cleared, and you might find a rotating
plumber's wire useful, putting about four liters of pickling vinegar through
the toilet once a month should keep everything clear. I have used this
method with no further problems for over six years.



Miles Bidwell, SM 216, LADYBUG


Re: [Amel] Head discharge hose clogged with calcification

Arca di Noè
 

Hi Bill,

the muriatic acid is the good solution.
In my Mango , primarly I have used the muriatic acid for clean the hose and the pipes, and secondary I have changed the hoses:.
Very very important: you must changed old hoses only with the white hose special for decharging WC: they are the only hoses that no deposit calcium.
Good job and good luck!!

Ettore & Silvana of Arca di No

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From: "svbebe" <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:18 PM
Subject: [Amel] Head discharge hose clogged with calcification


I searched and searched because I remember someone describing how they solved the problem I have, but I could not find the posting.

One of our heads stopped discharging. I removed the prox 1" hose that is the discharge hose from the maceration pump and found it partially clogged with calcification. I also removed the prox 2" diameter 10" long hose that the 1" hose connects to and found it completely blocked with calcification.

The metal brass or bronze pipe that the 2" hose connects to is also blocked with calcification. The hoses are removable/replaceable and easy to take care of...the pipe has got me!

I was able to remove a considerable amount of calcification from the pipe with various screwdrivers, but it is still blocked.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387



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Re: [Amel] Head discharge hose clogged with calcification

David Mackintosh <dlm48@...>
 

I think you want to fill the pipe with some vinegar that should dissolve the
calcium though it your pipe is totally blocked it wont be an instant process
- also regular vinegar additions to the bowl of the heads should keep your
heads pipework calcium free.

regards

David

2009/4/29 svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>



I searched and searched because I remember someone describing how they
solved the problem I have, but I could not find the posting.

One of our heads stopped discharging. I removed the prox 1" hose that is
the discharge hose from the maceration pump and found it partially clogged
with calcification. I also removed the prox 2" diameter 10" long hose that
the 1" hose connects to and found it completely blocked with calcification.

The metal brass or bronze pipe that the 2" hose connects to is also blocked
with calcification. The hoses are removable/replaceable and easy to take
care of...the pipe has got me!

I was able to remove a considerable amount of calcification from the pipe
with various screwdrivers, but it is still blocked.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387



Re: [Amel] Head discharge hose clogged with calcification

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hi Bill.
The problem is usually caused by failure to flush the toilet for long enough. The build up can be dissolved with a strong solution of hydrochloric (muriatic) acid but beware because the chemical reaction gives off very strong fumes which are very damaging to the lungs. I recall plumbers succumbing to these fumes when descaling urinals. We make a point of flushing our toilet for about 10 seconds every time it is used so that all the urine is expelled. We also give strong advice to any guests to do the same and then listen to make sure they do !
On my last boat I avoided the problem by installing a pneumatic light switch (as used in the common parts of small apartment blocks) in the macerator circuit to ensure compliance.

Take care, Anne and John, SM 319

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To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:18 PM
Subject: [Amel] Head discharge hose clogged with calcification





I searched and searched because I remember someone describing how they solved the problem I have, but I could not find the posting.

One of our heads stopped discharging. I removed the prox 1" hose that is the discharge hose from the maceration pump and found it partially clogged with calcification. I also removed the prox 2" diameter 10" long hose that the 1" hose connects to and found it completely blocked with calcification.

The metal brass or bronze pipe that the 2" hose connects to is also blocked with calcification. The hoses are removable/replaceable and easy to take care of...the pipe has got me!

I was able to remove a considerable amount of calcification from the pipe with various screwdrivers, but it is still blocked.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387


Head discharge hose clogged with calcification

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

I searched and searched because I remember someone describing how they solved the problem I have, but I could not find the posting.

One of our heads stopped discharging. I removed the prox 1" hose that is the discharge hose from the maceration pump and found it partially clogged with calcification. I also removed the prox 2" diameter 10" long hose that the 1" hose connects to and found it completely blocked with calcification.

The metal brass or bronze pipe that the 2" hose connects to is also blocked with calcification. The hoses are removable/replaceable and easy to take care of...the pipe has got me!

I was able to remove a considerable amount of calcification from the pipe with various screwdrivers, but it is still blocked.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387


Re: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Eric, That's a new one on me. I will check it out. However, I am pleased to say that I may have solved the problem. Shortly after we were joined by two friends for the week ( isn't that always the way--particularly when they are two Aussie girls who have no yottie experience and really wallop through the water and lights) the Onan stopped completely after firing up twice for just a few minutes.That, of course, gave me the chance to isolate each sender in turn. I first disconnected the exhaust temperature sender and the Onan has been running sweetly ever since. With the prayers that have been flowing upwards from this boat I reckon old Henri himself must have heard us and guided me to the right sender first time. Of course I shouldn't be surprised that the Amel service obviously continues well into the next life!

You can keep Bob Marley and Jimmy Buffet-- the sweetest sound on Pen Azen at the mo is the Onan.

Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen SM 302, Elizabeth Harbour, George Town, Exumas.





To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: kimberlite@optonline.net
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:27:31 -0500
Subject: RE: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

Ian doesn't the start button blink in a sequence that tells you what the
problem is?
Fair Winds
Eric
Sm


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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen


Thanks for your replies,guys.I don't think its the fuel. I will check the
water flow sensor. The Onan guys I spoke to thought it might be a faulty
sensor. So far its only faulty every few hours and restarts after pressing
the restart button. I can live with that till I get home!

Cheers, Ian

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: edmundsteele@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:39:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

Ian,
When you try to restart the engine, can you hear the fuel pump "ticking"?
Some automobile "vacuum" gauges also measure fuel pump pressure on the
"other" side of the zero vacuum line. I don't know the spec for the Onan
fuel pump but I would expect to see 2 or 3 pounds of output fuel pressure.
The pump may be working but the output pressure marginal.
Good Luck,
Ed
SM 311



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Re: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Eric, That's a new one on me. I will check it out. However, I am pleased to say that I may have solved the problem. Shortly after we were joined by two friends for the week ( isn't that always the way--particularly when they are two Aussie girls who have no yottie experience and really wallop through the water and lights) the Onan stopped completely after firing up twice for just a few minutes.That, of course, gave me the chance to isolate each sender in turn. I first disconnected the exhaust temperature sender and the Onan has been running sweetly ever since. With the prayers that have been flowing upwards from this boat I reckon old Henri himself must have heard us and guided me to the right sender first time. Of course I shouldn't be surprised that the Amel service obviously continues well into the next life!

You can keep Bob Marley and Jimmy Buffet-- the sweetest sound on Pen Azen at the mo is the Onan.

Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen SM 302, Elizabeth Harbour, George Town, Exumas.





To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: kimberlite@optonline.net
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 17:27:31 -0500
Subject: RE: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

Ian doesn't the start button blink in a sequence that tells you what the
problem is?
Fair Winds
Eric
Sm


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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen


Thanks for your replies,guys.I don't think its the fuel. I will check the
water flow sensor. The Onan guys I spoke to thought it might be a faulty
sensor. So far its only faulty every few hours and restarts after pressing
the restart button. I can live with that till I get home!

Cheers, Ian

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: edmundsteele@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:39:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

Ian,
When you try to restart the engine, can you hear the fuel pump "ticking"?
Some automobile "vacuum" gauges also measure fuel pump pressure on the
"other" side of the zero vacuum line. I don't know the spec for the Onan
fuel pump but I would expect to see 2 or 3 pounds of output fuel pressure.
The pump may be working but the output pressure marginal.
Good Luck,
Ed
SM 311



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Re: [Amel] Re: Bladder

eric freedman
 

Bill,

We keep the 50 gallon bladder in the forward end of the port cockpit locker
and 11 more jerry cans in the aft of the locker. Once we pump out the
bladder we roll it up and have lots of room for other stuff. We also keep
the Jordan drogue and storm sail in that locker. One way or another I Will
figure out where to put this extra fuel. I hate traveling around with a half
a locker full of empty jerry cans it is such a waste space.

I am also planning on installing an Espar heater in that locker and I am
afraid of the fumes of the diesel and the heater. Any other ideas?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 12:18 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Bladder








Eric,

We have 9 fuel jerry jugs in the life raft locker and the life raft is in
the left side front of the cockpit port side locker (actually much easier to
deploy from there, I think!).

I talked to someone in Grenada about making a stainless steel tank for the
life raft locker, but later reconsidered thinking that I might still need to
transport fuel via jerry jugs. For that reason we decided not to spend the
prox $1,800 to build the tank. BTW, the hatch opening will restrict the size
of the tank...the interior of the locker is larger than the opening. I
cannot remember exactly the capacity of the tank the guy estimated, but it
was around 200 liters which is very close to the 189 liters I carry in 9
jugs.

We are half way around and have enjoyed the safety margin of having the
extra fuel. I have not yet needed to transport fuel back to the boat via
jerry jugs.

I remember that you have a bladder which you place in the cockpit locker and
have a transfer pump. If I were you, I would check around St. Martin for a
custom tank for the life raft locker. I am frequently amazed at the quality
and prices in St. Martin.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Speaking of Bladders,

Has anyone ever tried putting a bladder in the life raft locker and the
raft
in the port locker?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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[mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: fuel leak








Augusto,

What about putting a synthetic rubber bladder inside your exisiting tank?
Some time ago I read about a company that will make a bladder to your
exact
specifications for a few hundred dollars. I will see if I can't dig up the
name of that outfit.

I'm not sure how they deal with any baffles that may exist in the metal
tank.

Also, you'd need a large enough opening in the top of the tank to work the
bladder through (I think I read that 8 inches was enough).

Regards,

Russ







Re: Bladder

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

We have 9 fuel jerry jugs in the life raft locker and the life raft is in the left side front of the cockpit port side locker (actually much easier to deploy from there, I think!).

I talked to someone in Grenada about making a stainless steel tank for the life raft locker, but later reconsidered thinking that I might still need to transport fuel via jerry jugs. For that reason we decided not to spend the prox $1,800 to build the tank. BTW, the hatch opening will restrict the size of the tank...the interior of the locker is larger than the opening. I cannot remember exactly the capacity of the tank the guy estimated, but it was around 200 liters which is very close to the 189 liters I carry in 9 jugs.

We are half way around and have enjoyed the safety margin of having the extra fuel. I have not yet needed to transport fuel back to the boat via jerry jugs.

I remember that you have a bladder which you place in the cockpit locker and have a transfer pump. If I were you, I would check around St. Martin for a custom tank for the life raft locker. I am frequently amazed at the quality and prices in St. Martin.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Speaking of Bladders,

Has anyone ever tried putting a bladder in the life raft locker and the raft
in the port locker?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of airbus4russ
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: fuel leak








Augusto,

What about putting a synthetic rubber bladder inside your exisiting tank?
Some time ago I read about a company that will make a bladder to your exact
specifications for a few hundred dollars. I will see if I can't dig up the
name of that outfit.

I'm not sure how they deal with any baffles that may exist in the metal
tank.

Also, you'd need a large enough opening in the top of the tank to work the
bladder through (I think I read that 8 inches was enough).

Regards,

Russ







Bladder

eric freedman
 

Speaking of Bladders,

Has anyone ever tried putting a bladder in the life raft locker and the raft
in the port locker?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of airbus4russ
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:31 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: fuel leak








Augusto,

What about putting a synthetic rubber bladder inside your exisiting tank?
Some time ago I read about a company that will make a bladder to your exact
specifications for a few hundred dollars. I will see if I can't dig up the
name of that outfit.

I'm not sure how they deal with any baffles that may exist in the metal
tank.

Also, you'd need a large enough opening in the top of the tank to work the
bladder through (I think I read that 8 inches was enough).

Regards,

Russ


Re: fuel leak

airbus4russ <russ.roberts.va@...>
 

Augusto,

What about putting a synthetic rubber bladder inside your exisiting tank? Some time ago I read about a company that will make a bladder to your exact specifications for a few hundred dollars. I will see if I can't dig up the name of that outfit.

I'm not sure how they deal with any baffles that may exist in the metal tank.

Also, you'd need a large enough opening in the top of the tank to work the bladder through (I think I read that 8 inches was enough).

Regards,

Russ


Re: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

eric freedman
 

Ian doesn't the start button blink in a sequence that tells you what the
problem is?
Fair Winds
Eric
Sm

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 4:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen


Thanks for your replies,guys.I don't think its the fuel. I will check the
water flow sensor. The Onan guys I spoke to thought it might be a faulty
sensor. So far its only faulty every few hours and restarts after pressing
the restart button. I can live with that till I get home!

Cheers, Ian

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: edmundsteele@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:39:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

Ian,
When you try to restart the engine, can you hear the fuel pump "ticking"?
Some automobile "vacuum" gauges also measure fuel pump pressure on the
"other" side of the zero vacuum line. I don't know the spec for the Onan
fuel pump but I would expect to see 2 or 3 pounds of output fuel pressure.
The pump may be working but the output pressure marginal.
Good Luck,
Ed
SM 311



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Re: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks for your replies,guys.I don't think its the fuel. I will check the water flow sensor. The Onan guys I spoke to thought it might be a faulty sensor. So far its only faulty every few hours and restarts after pressing the restart button. I can live with that till I get home!

Cheers, Ian

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: edmundsteele@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 08:39:59 -0500
Subject: Re: [Amel] Onan Genset cutting out on SM 302, Pen Azen

Ian,
When you try to restart the engine, can you hear the fuel pump "ticking"?
Some automobile "vacuum" gauges also measure fuel pump pressure on the
"other" side of the zero vacuum line. I don't know the spec for the Onan
fuel pump but I would expect to see 2 or 3 pounds of output fuel pressure.
The pump may be working but the output pressure marginal.
Good Luck,
Ed
SM 311



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Cockpit Extensions

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi Danny,

It is a long story-you should come by for all of the details or email me at bill"at"svbebe.com.

The short version is that we added stainless tubing between the mizzen shrouds and the mizzen mast to support the aft side of the bimini extension. We shortened and modified the Amel supplied bimini extension to terminate at the newly installed tubing. And we had zippered white vinyl & sunbrella-shade panels made for the sides and aft of the bimini extension.

We also had white vinyl & sunbrella-shade panels copies made of the Amel supplied bimini side curtains. We had all of this work done by Petra in Carriacou, Grenada (little German girl who is great with this stuff). There are some photos of our cockpit enclosure (as well as another boat's) under Photos this site titled SM Bimini. One of our photos is at this link:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1814013527/pic/1097915954/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

We will be in Opua until about 3 May...please stop by or call NZ 021-293-1340.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387
Opua Marina A-End

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--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:
Hi Bill, sorry I dont have your answer. I am calling you as we are new owners of SM 299, she is in Ft Lauderdale Florida where we will join her soon. We are based in Mangonui NZ, just north of where you are in Opua. I have seen Be Be when we visited Wanderer and the cockpit cover extension you have is just what we want to do. Where did you get that work done or is it an Amel option?
Regards
Danny


Re: fuel leak

rossirossix4
 

IMTR distributes Nauta Flexible tanks which are used on a permanent basis. Depending on what kind of baffles you have inside your tank, this might be an option. They are neoprene/nitile with bronze fittings. http://www.imtra.com/downloadTypes/Nauta_Brochure.pdf

Bob
Brittany de la Mer

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "augusto.dominguez" <agdominguezo@...> wrote:

Mauro / Matt, (Thursday evening)

First of all thank you Mauro for your detailed reply. Even before reading your reply this evening, I've been pondering various solutions to my fuel tank cunundrum. From drawings I inherited from the previous owner, it was my belief (erroneous it now seems) that I would have ample access to the fuel tank on the starboard side (differing from the one to port), that I would acheive by cutting the floor in the fore sbrd. locker. My latest assessment after reading your email, leads me to believe that in effect I will have to cut out the flooring in both fore and aft lockers and the bulkhead between both.

I have been trying to calculate if I end up cutting out just the top of the stainless steel tank, what size tank I can encase inside the old shell (it should be a significant %). Of course the other extreme is to condemn this tank (100lts.), which by the way is the smaller one and use exclusively the port tank (following that sage philosophy "if it ain't broke don't fix it") until such time that a similar problem ensues in this tank also. Should one need extra fuel during the interim one can always carry a few additional jerry cans (which @ 20lts. each ;1=20%, 2=40%, etc. of the condemned tank).

In any event I will continue to study alternative options and assess cost (time & money) versus benefits to each of these with respect to my cunundrum. I would appreciate taking a look at the photographs Mauro, as this will give me a better feel as to what magnitud of difficulty of a task I could be undertaking

Cordiales saludos/ best regards to both,

Augusto

Kayola, Euros #247

Friday evening

Mauro, I wrote the above portion of this email last night. I've now seen the pictures you've sent and I believe I aught go back to my original assumption that I can access and remove the starboard fuel tank without out having to cut into either the aft srbd. locker or the separating bulkhead. From the drawings I have in my possession it appears that the port tank which is of 150lts. capacity would need carrying out the procedure as you mentioned (which seems quite apparent in the photos), however not on the smaller starboard side tank. Tomorrow I will go down to the yard and verify or stand corrected.

I saw your pictures of the delamination on the hull of your Euros.Let me preface my comments by stating that I have no more then casual knowledge on the subject that comes from what one reads and/or learns through conversations with others. Your appreciation is that the hull suffered no structural damage by collision. Was the delamination limited to just that one section? Is the flaking/creacked gelcoat on the hull the original? I am perplexed by the fact that delamination would take place after 30 years and not earlier if due solely to resin mix (why only at that one point?)Did you seek the opinion of a local marine surveyor or anyone who repairs fiber at the yard where you carried out the work? Any thoughts as to some exogenous agent that could have acted from the exterior? What type of water was the boat docked in? In any event i assume you've now overcome the problem and repaired the damage.

Cordiales saludos/ regards,
Augusto
Kayola, Euros #247


Re: Super Maramu under-seat fridge/freezers - stuck thermostats

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

We have two under-seat fridge/freezers. Each has a separate analog thermostat for fridge and freezer. Three of the four thermostats will not turn. They are somehow stuck. It is not a problem now as they are stuck where we would set them.

Has anyone experienced/solved this issue?

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2 #387
Opua New Zealand waiting on weather to head north and west
Hi Bill, sorry I dont have your answer. I am calling you as we are new owners of SM 299, she is in Ft Lauderdale Florida where we will join her soon. We are based in Mangonui NZ, just north of where you are in Opua. I have seen Be Be when we visited Wanderer and the cockpit cover extension you have is just what we want to do. Where did you get that work done or is it an Amel option?
Regards
Danny


fuel leak

augusto.dominguez <agdominguezo@...>
 

Mauro / Matt, (Thursday evening)

First of all thank you Mauro for your detailed reply. Even before reading your reply this evening, I've been pondering various solutions to my fuel tank cunundrum. From drawings I inherited from the previous owner, it was my belief (erroneous it now seems) that I would have ample access to the fuel tank on the starboard side (differing from the one to port), that I would acheive by cutting the floor in the fore sbrd. locker. My latest assessment after reading your email, leads me to believe that in effect I will have to cut out the flooring in both fore and aft lockers and the bulkhead between both.

I have been trying to calculate if I end up cutting out just the top of the stainless steel tank, what size tank I can encase inside the old shell (it should be a significant %). Of course the other extreme is to condemn this tank (100lts.), which by the way is the smaller one and use exclusively the port tank (following that sage philosophy "if it ain't broke don't fix it") until such time that a similar problem ensues in this tank also. Should one need extra fuel during the interim one can always carry a few additional jerry cans (which @ 20lts. each ;1=20%, 2=40%, etc. of the condemned tank).

In any event I will continue to study alternative options and assess cost (time & money) versus benefits to each of these with respect to my cunundrum. I would appreciate taking a look at the photographs Mauro, as this will give me a better feel as to what magnitud of difficulty of a task I could be undertaking

Cordiales saludos/ best regards to both,

Augusto

Kayola, Euros #247

Friday evening

Mauro, I wrote the above portion of this email last night. I've now seen the pictures you've sent and I believe I aught go back to my original assumption that I can access and remove the starboard fuel tank without out having to cut into either the aft srbd. locker or the separating bulkhead. From the drawings I have in my possession it appears that the port tank which is of 150lts. capacity would need carrying out the procedure as you mentioned (which seems quite apparent in the photos), however not on the smaller starboard side tank. Tomorrow I will go down to the yard and verify or stand corrected.

I saw your pictures of the delamination on the hull of your Euros.Let me preface my comments by stating that I have no more then casual knowledge on the subject that comes from what one reads and/or learns through conversations with others. Your appreciation is that the hull suffered no structural damage by collision. Was the delamination limited to just that one section? Is the flaking/creacked gelcoat on the hull the original? I am perplexed by the fact that delamination would take place after 30 years and not earlier if due solely to resin mix (why only at that one point?)Did you seek the opinion of a local marine surveyor or anyone who repairs fiber at the yard where you carried out the work? Any thoughts as to some exogenous agent that could have acted from the exterior? What type of water was the boat docked in? In any event i assume you've now overcome the problem and repaired the damage.

Cordiales saludos/ regards,
Augusto
Kayola, Euros #247