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Re: Ballooners

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

Thank you guys, I downloaded the file and translated it using google
translate as follows:
<-------------------------------------------------------------->
Listening to great sailing GV: diameter 14, length 23 m polyester
After trolley boom diameter of 10, length 11.5 m Kevlar green mark and
4.5 m braid 4 mm
Bout trolley boom diameter of 10, length 10 m Kevlar green mark and
1.5 m braid 4 mm
Halyard GV: diameter of 10, length 17.2 m Vectran blue yellow marker
Listening distance point GV> cart: 30 cm
GM balancine sandow diam 10, double, measuring 2.60 m completed>> buy 5.50
Balancine GM diam 10 rope length 4.50 m

Listening to jib jib: diameter of 16, length 41 m Polyester red mark
Jib halyard diameter of 12, length 39 m Vectran blue yellow marker
Chariot listening Jib: diameter of 10, length 10 m Kevlar green mark
and 1.5 m braid 4 mm

Bout blue pole diameter of 14, length 17 m mark at Tempest 11 m
After red diameter of 14, Tempest length 9.5 m to 7.35 m mark
Bout yellow diameter of 14, length Tempest 6 m mark at 4.11 m
Hale white top diameter of 10, Polyester 16m length marker to 12.75 m

Artimon Artimon of rope diameter of 10, length 15 m mark blue Polyester
Listening to Artimon diameter of 10, length 13 m mark blue Polyester
After trolley boom diameter of 10 m length l0 Polyester green mark
Jib halyard to Artimon diameter of 10, length 28 m Polyester black mark
Listening to the jib Artimon diameter of 12, length 10 m mark blue
Polyester
Listening distance point Artimon> cart: 28 cm
balancine Artimon sandow diam 8 in simple measure 1.40 m completed>>
buy 2.10
Balancine Artimon 8 diameter rope length 3.50 m

Halyard Auxiliary Balloon: diameter of 10, length 39 m Polyester
Playing ball: diameter of 16, length 27 m Polyester green mark
Hold boom GM: diameter of 12, length 12 m stranded white 4 sprigs
Hold boom Artimon diameter of 10, stranded 6 m length white 3 sprigs
<---------------------------------------------->

Can anyone reiterate?????
Cheers Barry

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "seagasm" <seagasm@...> wrote:

I would appreciate if someone can advise me the recommended size and
length for the sheets and halyards of both the ballooners please.

What is the size and length for the blue, yellow and red lines?

Cheers, Barry


Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooners line size

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

I have posted the file pertaining to the size of all lines for the SM .
Sorry but I do not have the time to translate, possibly later...

SDT, Mango #51 

--- En date de : Sam, 20.9.08, svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> a écrit :

De: svbebe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
Objet: Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooners
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: samedi 20 Septembre 2008, 15 h 10






Serge,

I am interested in seeing your file. Yahoo deleted the file attached
to your email. Yahoo does not allow posting a file via email to the
group, but you can upload it in the "Files" section. If that does not
work for you, you may consider copying the text of the file and
pasting it into an email to the group.

I do not have the red, blue, white & yellow pole line information, but
have some of the other information requested which follows:
Mainsail Halyard 10mm 17.20m Vectran
Mainsail Sheet 14mm 18m Polyester
Genoa Halyard 12mm 39m Vectran
Genoa Sheet (21 meters each) 16mm 42m Polyester

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, Serge Tremblay
<laetitiaii@ ...> wrote:

Please find attached, the file for info on all lines on SM.

It is in french: sheet is "écoute" and halyard is " drisse"

Serge D. Tremblay, Opéra, mango #51

--- En date de : Sam, 20.9.08, seagasm <seagasm@... > a écrit :

De: seagasm <seagasm@... >
Objet: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooners
À: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Date: samedi 20 Septembre 2008, 1 h 48






I would appreciate if someone can advise me the recommended size and
length for the sheets and halyards of both the ballooners please.

What is the size and length for the blue, yellow and red lines?

Cheers, Barry
















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New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.

File : /mesuresSuperMaramu.xls
Uploaded by : laetitiaii <laetitiaii@yahoo.ca>
Description : Size of halyards & sheets (French)

You can access this file at the URL:
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Re: Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooners

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Serge,

I am interested in seeing your file. Yahoo deleted the file attached
to your email. Yahoo does not allow posting a file via email to the
group, but you can upload it in the "Files" section. If that does not
work for you, you may consider copying the text of the file and
pasting it into an email to the group.

I do not have the red, blue, white & yellow pole line information, but
have some of the other information requested which follows:
Mainsail Halyard 10mm 17.20m Vectran
Mainsail Sheet 14mm 18m Polyester
Genoa Halyard 12mm 39m Vectran
Genoa Sheet (21 meters each) 16mm 42m Polyester





--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Serge Tremblay
<laetitiaii@...> wrote:

Please find attached, the file for info on all lines on SM.

It is in french: sheet is "écoute" and halyard is " drisse"

Serge D. Tremblay, Opéra, mango #51

--- En date de : Sam, 20.9.08, seagasm <seagasm@...> a écrit :

De: seagasm <seagasm@...>
Objet: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooners
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: samedi 20 Septembre 2008, 1 h 48






I would appreciate if someone can advise me the recommended size and
length for the sheets and halyards of both the ballooners please.

What is the size and length for the blue, yellow and red lines?

Cheers, Barry
















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Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooners

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Please find attached, the file for info on all lines on SM.
 
It is in french: sheet is "écoute" and halyard is " drisse"
 
Serge D. Tremblay,  Opéra, mango #51

--- En date de : Sam, 20.9.08, seagasm <seagasm@gmail.com> a écrit :

De: seagasm <seagasm@gmail.com>
Objet: [Amel Yacht Owners] Ballooners
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: samedi 20 Septembre 2008, 1 h 48






I would appreciate if someone can advise me the recommended size and
length for the sheets and halyards of both the ballooners please.

What is the size and length for the blue, yellow and red lines?

Cheers, Barry
















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Ballooners

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

I would appreciate if someone can advise me the recommended size and
length for the sheets and halyards of both the ballooners please.

What is the size and length for the blue, yellow and red lines?

Cheers, Barry


Have you heard ?

MERTZ <jlmertz@...>
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Thanks, David. I guess the US governmnent has to use every means possible to raise cash at the mo!Just hope for all our sakes that it turns out that they are spending it wisely. Cheers, Ian



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dlm48@aol.com
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:30:37 -0400
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry


Have fun calling the US embassy it is a premium rate call at extortionate rates and i dont think you will get chapter and verse in writing on for your intended voyage from Cuba to the US.

Getting chapter and verse from these people is almost impossible i have been trying for three years now to get clarification on the green visa waver tear off ticket and the white visa tear off ticket that you retain in your passport. Simple question really - do you retain that until you are exiting the US on the last leg of your journey on your way home to the UK - the visa waver is valid for 90 days the visa one for 6 months - IF part of your travel will be hoping in and out of the US regularly in this trip - some say yes and some expect you to give it up as you exit the US on the first leg of your trip. We tend to transit into the VI's via the USA and so do most of the people who come sailing with us - they tend not to have the 10 year US visa whereas we do. It is a nightmare really - not a big thing though - but i expect 'rules' to be understood and applied in a consistent manner - that is far from the case with both the visa and visa waver tear off portions in our experience since 9/11 - pre 9/11 you just kept it till it expired and / or handed it back as you were returning home.

All you need is a std 10 year visa and the best place to get that in the UK is Belfast - have a wee midweek break in Be
lfast - though being in London you have a big advantage in that you are able to meet their appointment dates without having to travel.

INFO and LINKS



http://www.usembassy.org.uk/rctour.html


Currently, many British citizens traveling on a valid, individual
machine readable passport, with a return or onward ticket, and who are
staying for less than 90 days, qualify for the Visa Waiver Program. There are conditions, so please review the information concerning visa free travel on the American Embassy London Nonimmigrant Visas Services Home Page.



Nonimmigrant Visas



The following provides information on visa requirements for
travelers to the United States who wish to visit, work or study for a
temporary period. The type of visa required will depend on the purpose
of your travel. Many travelers seeking to enter the U.S. for business
or tourism for less than 90 days will be eligible to travel to the
United States visa free under the Visa Waiver Program.



Method of Application



With limited exceptions,
nonimmigrant visa applicants aged 14 to 79 are required to schedule an
appointment for an interview with a U.S. consular officer. Interviews
are by appointment only. The Embassy does not accept walk-in applications.





Processing Times



The average visa processing time for successful applicants is five
business days, during which time the applicant's passport must remain
with the Embassy. Applicants who are advised at the visa interview that
their application requires additional processing=2
0should allow at least
8 weeks for this stage of the application process. Once processing is
completed, the applicant will be contacted for the passport. A further
four weeks should be allowed for the visa to be issued and the passport
returned.



Applicants who are advised at the time of
their interview that action on their application has been suspended
under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act should
allow a minimum of 10 - 15 business days for their application to be
processed once they submit the missing documents to the Embassy.



http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/forms/visaforms.html

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/niv/electronic.html


Electronic Visa Application Form







The visa application form DS-156 must be filled out on-line. Complete
this form ahead of time. If you experience problems in accessing this
form and are unable to complete it by the date of the interview, your
appointment will be canceled and you will be required to reschedule
for another day.

Failure to complete the 2D bar coded form will delay your application for a visa.

Do not complete blank or unprocessed data input forms by hand.
Unprocessed data input pages or data input pages completed by hand will
not be accepted.

The information that you submit is not stored anywhere. It is also
not submitted to the Embassy electronically. It is only used to
generate a barcode.






What you Need



To use the electronic visa application form, your Internet browser
must sup
port 128-bit encryption and you should use either an ink-jet or
laser printer to print the completed application form. If you are using
Internet Explorer (Windows), the minimum version that will work with
this site is version 5.0, with service pack 2. If you are using
Netscape, the minimum version that will work with this site is version
6.2. You must also have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed on your PC in
order to download and print the completed application form. The minimum
version that will work with this site is version 5. If you do not have
Adobe Acrobat, you may download a copy from Adobes web site.



Depending on the speed of your Internet
connection, it may take several minutes to download the initial and
completed copies of the form. Please be patient.




Instructions for completing the electronic DS-156




Complete the form on-line by filling in the applicable data fields.
Fill in the form as completely as possible leaving blank only those fields
that do not apply in your case. If a field is completed incorrectly, a message
will advise you on who to correct the entry.


Review the information you have entered for accuracy.


Press the Continue button at the end of the form and wait while the
system processes your data and transfers it to a 3 page DS-156 form with
a special bar code on page 3. Failure to click on the Continue button
will result in an incorrectly formatted application form.


Print the form after it is returned=2
0to you and date and sign it.


The barcode that prints on the 3rd page contains the information you
entered and will help us process your application more quickly.


Pages 1, 2 and 3 with the 2-D bar must be furnished when applying for the visa.






The electronic form DS-156.







Do not complete blank or unprocessed data input forms by hand.
Unprocessed data input pages or data input pages completed by hand will
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have fun

kindest regards

David




-----Original Message-----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:18 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



























Dear Robin, John and David, Wow! What a fecund source of info and debate is to be found amongst Amel owners.I always knew we were no ornery bunch of boatowners ! Thanks for all your inputs. I am going to get chapter and verse (in writing!) from the US embassy in London. Armed with the right visas I suspect we will just sail in with the minimum of fuss and wonder why we had had any other concerns.

Cheers, Ian and Judy Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad PS Looks as though cheap fuel is no longer available to yotties in Trini. Per Noonsite.com no fuel at all was available when the authorities recently decided that yachts should not enjoy the subsidised fuel available to
Trini residents. However, Don Stollmeyer at Power Boats has sorted out a separate tank on his fuel berth and fuel is available again at international rates--we are still in London so I don't know what those are at the mo.



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dlm48@aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:25:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
I think that is a dumb idea - probably one of the dumbest ideas i have seen on this group.? Why would you tell lies about your last port of call - get caught out doing that and the shit could really start to hit the fan - lets just imagine that the US and other authorities have been watching and monitoring your progress from Cuba to Florida.? Remember the Caribbean into FL is on one of the main drug routes so this is not as unlikely as it would first appear - and then you try and say you were not there.? This is one sure way to get your boat taken apart piece by piece until they dont find what you were not hiding - or get the boat impounded and sold off at auction There was some clown who tried to smuggle in a fair number of Cuban cigars to another Caribbean country.? In fact all he did was just not declare them on board - so he was assumed to be a smuggler - he ended up in jail and lost his boat - dont mess with the authorities be nice friendly totally up front and totally legal.
regards
David

-----Original Message-----
From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
Ian, You will have no problem with Cuba. Keep your zarpe from whatever country you clear out of, tell immigration in Cuba not to keep your zarpe and not to stamp your passport,and when you get to U S tell the authorities you came from the other place. The authorities in Cuba know the problems we have in the US and they will help you,especially since our so called helpful country sent Haiti 5 million dollars for aid after hurricane Hanna and only sent $100, 000 to Cuba. As usual our country tries to win the peoples minds before we win their hearts. When you go there visit a nice hotel and sign up for some first class tours, you will really see Cuba and know why I think its one of the best islands in the Caribbean. John 'Moon dog' sm248
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: kimberlite@optonline.netDate: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:20:56 -0400Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
Ian,I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.It had an owner from Chile on board.I would NOT leave for20the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. Imet another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami toHavana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscatethe boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.Fair Winds,EricAmel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite'-----Original Message-----From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy JenkinsSent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AMTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entryHi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visitsome former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might bearriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is thereanyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewedby two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating inthe Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hoursnotice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of thelegislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within thesame marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but itwould be interesting to know.We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in tothe US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend aninterview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel
ownerout there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad__________________________________
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Have you heard?

Annsofie <kanalmamman@...>
 

About Asolare, an Amel 54 joining the World ARC Rally.

Please read more here:
http://www.worldcruising.com/worldarc/newsarticle.aspx?
page=S633533556414701143&ArchiveID=1&CategoryID=53&ItemID=6780&src=

I fell so sorry for Peter Turner and Tim Wood and hope that they can
find a way to finish the circum navigation.

/Annsofie


Cuba

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

On a rather sober note I have just received the attached email from Commodore Escrich at the Hemingway marina.It may be that Cuba will be a difficult place to cruise over the next year.We may worry about Lehman Bros and AIG but this sort of puts it into perspective.
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad



On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:59:20 -0400, "Club Nutico Internacional
Hemingway" <yachtclub@cnih.mh.cyt.cu> said:
>
>
>
>
> Dear Commodore and Members of OCC,
>
>
>
> We would like to greet you on behalf of the Hemigway International Yacht
> Club of Cuba and on my own, taking chance of the privilege of having
> power and access to email after the devastating consequences of the high
> intensity hurricane Ike all over the Cuban territory, as well as the
> hitting of Fay, Hanna and Gustav that have left considerable destruction
> and deaths on other islands of the Caribbean this hurricane season.
>
>
>
> Destruction is terrifying. Damages are catastrophic on all sectors of the
> economy. We are facing huge problems on power and communication services.
> Agriculture was left in ruins and half a million houses were damaged or
> destroyed.
>
>
>
> Emotional and material damages represent equal burdens and our Club is
> part of this tragedy, we do not escape from the negative effects provoked
> by such destruction. Thanks to the efforts and preventive actions taken
> by anglers in the Boathouse and the staff of the Clubhouse together with
> the love and sense of ownership that we all feel for this Yacht Club, we
> managed to avoid big losses and considerable damage to the infrastructure
> and boats. However, it is sad to accept that we are facing a rather
> delicate situation due to economic problems, ours and the ones that
> affect the whole country and that also threaten the survival of our Club.
>
>
>
> Now more than ever, we need solidarity and spiritual and material support
> from our friends all over the world to be able to go forward in our
> struggle for the survival of this non-governmental institution, unique in
> our country, that works so hard on the basis of love and devotion to make
> of the recreational boating industry, an important source of income for
> the Cuban people that is facing very difficult moments.
>
>
>
> You could make true your valuable and necessary help with a donation or
> the payment of membership to the Club as a Non-Resident Permanent Member
> (213 UDS or its equivalent in other currency).
>
>
>
> Bank transfers can be sent from HSBC Bank PLC or Havana International
> Bank Ltd, both in London.
>
>
>
> Account number: Marina Hemingway-Club Internacional Cubanacan
>
>
>
> Bank postal address: 1ra. Y B, Vedado, Plaza de la Revolucin, La Habana,
> Cuba
>
>
>
> Account Number: 0300000002699820
>
>
>
> SWIFT Code: BFICCUHH
>
>
>
> Postal Adress of the Club: Club Nutico Internacional Hemingway de Cuba,
> 5ta Ave. y 248, Marina Hemigway, Santa Fe, Playa, La Habana, Cuba
>
>
>
> I take this opportunity to reiterate to you my most sincere greetings and
> express that your economic support would be an important contribution to
> the existence of the Hemigway International Yacht Club of Cuba.
>
>
>
> Yours Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Commodore Escrich

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

dlm48@...
 

Have fun calling the US embassy it is a premium rate call at extortionate rates and i dont think you will get chapter and verse in writing on for your intended voyage from Cuba to the US. 

Getting chapter and verse from these people is almost impossible i have been trying for three years now to get clarification on the green visa waver tear off ticket and the white visa tear off ticket that you retain in your passport. Simple question really - do you retain that until you are exiting the US on the last leg of your journey on your way home to the UK - the visa waver is valid for 90 days the visa one for 6 months -  IF part of your travel will be hoping in and out of the US regularly in this trip - some say yes and some expect you to give it up as you exit the US on the first leg of your trip.  We tend to transit into the VI's via the USA and so do most of the people who come sailing with us - they tend not to have the 10 year US visa whereas we do.  It is a nightmare really - not a big thing though - but i expect 'rules' to be understood and applied in a consistent manner - that is far from the case with both the visa and visa waver tear off portions in our experience since 9/11 - pre 9/11 you just kept it till it expired and / or handed it back as you were returning home.

All you need is a std 10 year visa  and the best place to get that in the UK is Belfast - have a wee midweek break in Be
lfast - though being in London you have a big advantage in that you are able to meet their appointment dates without having to travel.

INFO and LINKS



http://www.usembassy.org.uk/rctour.html


Currently, many British citizens traveling on a valid, individual
machine readable passport, with a return or onward ticket, and who are
staying for less than 90 days, qualify for the Visa Waiver Program. There are conditions, so please review the information concerning visa free travel on the American Embassy London Nonimmigrant Visas Services Home Page.



Nonimmigrant Visas



The following provides information on visa requirements for
travelers to the United States who wish to visit, work or study for a
temporary period. The type of visa required will depend on the purpose
of your travel. Many travelers seeking to enter the U.S. for business
or tourism for less than 90 days will be eligible to travel to the
United States visa free under the Visa Waiver Program.



Method of Application



With limited exceptions,
nonimmigrant visa applicants aged 14 to 79 are required to schedule an
appointment for an interview with a U.S. consular officer. Interviews
are by appointment only. The Embassy does not accept walk-in applications.





Processing Times



The average visa processing time for successful applicants is five
business days, during which time the applicant's passport must remain
with the Embassy. Applicants who are advised at the visa interview that
their application requires additional processing=2
0should allow at least
8 weeks for this stage of the application process. Once processing is
completed, the applicant will be contacted for the passport. A further
four weeks should be allowed for the visa to be issued and the passport
returned.



Applicants who are advised at the time of
their interview that action on their application has been suspended
under Section 221(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act should
allow a minimum of 10 - 15 business days for their application to be
processed once they submit the missing documents to the Embassy.



http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/forms/visaforms.html

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/niv/electronic.html


Electronic Visa Application Form







The visa application form DS-156 must be filled out on-line. Complete
this form ahead of time. If you experience problems in accessing this
form and are unable to complete it by the date of the interview, your
appointment will be canceled and you will be required to reschedule
for another day.

Failure to complete the 2D bar coded form will delay your application for a visa.

Do not complete blank or unprocessed data input forms by hand.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:18 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



























Dear Robin, John and David, Wow! What a fecund source of info and debate is to be found amongst Amel owners.I always knew we were no ornery bunch of boatowners ! Thanks for all your inputs. I am going to get chapter and verse (in writing!) from the US embassy in London. Armed with the right visas I suspect we will just sail in with the minimum of fuss and wonder why we had had any other concerns.

Cheers, Ian and Judy Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad PS Looks as though cheap fuel is no longer available to yotties in Trini. Per Noonsite.com no fuel at all was available when the authorities recently decided that yachts should not enjoy the subsidised fuel available to
Trini residents. However, Don Stollmeyer at Power Boats has sorted out a separate tank on his fuel berth and fuel is available again at international rates--we are still in London so I don't know what those are at the mo.



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dlm48@aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:25:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
I think that is a dumb idea - probably one of the dumbest ideas i have seen on this group.? Why would you tell lies about your last port of call - get caught out doing that and the shit could really start to hit the fan - lets just imagine that the US and other authorities have been watching and monitoring your progress from Cuba to Florida.? Remember the Caribbean into FL is on one of the main drug routes so this is not as unlikely as it would first appear - and then you try and say you were not there.? This is one sure way to get your boat taken apart piece by piece until they dont find what you were not hiding - or get the boat impounded and sold off at auction There was some clown who tried to smuggle in a fair number of Cuban cigars to another Caribbean country.? In fact all he did was just not declare them on board - so he was assumed to be a smuggler - he ended up in jail and lost his boat - dont mess with the authorities be nice friendly totally up front and totally legal.
regards
David

-----Original Message-----
From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
Ian, You will have no problem with Cuba. Keep your zarpe from whatever country you clear out of, tell immigration in Cuba not to keep your zarpe and not to stamp your passport,and when you get to U S tell the authorities you came from the other place. The authorities in Cuba know the problems we have in the US and they will help you,especially since our so called helpful country sent Haiti 5 million dollars for aid after hurricane Hanna and only sent $100, 000 to Cuba. As usual our country tries to win the peoples minds before we win their hearts. When you go there visit a nice hotel and sign up for some first class tours, you will really see Cuba and know why I think its one of the best islands in the Caribbean. John 'Moon dog' sm248
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: kimberlite@optonline.netDate: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:20:56 -0400Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
Ian,I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.It had an owner from Chile on board.I would NOT leave for20the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. Imet another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami toHavana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscatethe boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.Fair Winds,EricAmel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite'-----Original Message-----From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy JenkinsSent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AMTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entryHi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visitsome former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might bearriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is thereanyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewedby two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating inthe Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hoursnotice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of thelegislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within thesame marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but itwould be interesting to know.We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in tothe US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend aninterview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel
ownerout there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad__________________________________
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Dear Robin, John and David, Wow! What a fecund source of info and debate is to be found amongst Amel owners.I always knew we were no ornery bunch of boatowners ! Thanks for all your inputs. I am going to get chapter and verse (in writing!) from the US embassy in London. Armed with the right visas I suspect we will just sail in with the minimum of fuss and wonder why we had had any other concerns.
Cheers, Ian and Judy Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad PS Looks as though cheap fuel is no longer available to yotties in Trini. Per Noonsite.com no fuel at all was available when the authorities recently decided that yachts should not enjoy the subsidised fuel available to Trini residents. However, Don Stollmeyer at Power Boats has sorted out a separate tank on his fuel berth and fuel is available again at international rates--we are still in London so I don't know what those are at the mo.

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: dlm48@aol.com
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 21:25:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry


I think that is a dumb idea - probably one of the dumbest ideas i have seen on this group.? Why would you tell lies about your last port of call - get caught out doing that and the shit could really start to hit the fan - lets just imagine that the US and other authorities have been watching and monitoring your progress from Cuba to Florida.? Remember the Caribbean into FL is on one of the main drug routes so this is not as unlikely as it would first appear - and then you try and say you were not there.? This is one sure way to get your boat taken apart piece by piece until they dont find what you were not hiding - or get the boat impounded and sold off at auction There was some clown who tried to smuggle in a fair number of Cuban cigars to another Caribbean country.? In fact all he did was just not declare them on board - so he was assumed to be a smuggler - he ended up in jail and lost his boat - dont mess with the authorities be nice friendly totally up front and totally legal.

regards

David







-----Original Message-----
From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



























Ian, You will have no problem with Cuba. Keep your zarpe from whatever country you clear out of, tell immigration in Cuba not to keep your zarpe and not to stamp your passport,and when you get to U S tell the authorities you came from the other place. The authorities in Cuba know the problems we have in the US and they will help you,especially since our so called helpful country sent Haiti 5 million dollars for aid after hurricane Hanna and only sent $100, 000 to Cuba. As usual our country tries to win the peoples minds before we win their hearts. When you go there visit a nice hotel and sign up for some first class tours, you will really see Cuba and know why I think its one of the best islands in the Caribbean. John 'Moon dog' sm248



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: kimberlite@optonline.netDate: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:20:56 -0400Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



Ian,I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.It had an owner from Chile on board.I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. Imet another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami toHavana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscatethe boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.Fair Winds,EricAmel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite'-----Original Message-----From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy JenkinsSent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AMTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entryHi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visitsome former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might bearriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is thereanyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewedby two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating inthe Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hoursnotice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of thelegislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within thesame marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but itwould be interesting to know.We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in tothe US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend aninterview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel ownerout there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad_______________________________________
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B&G problem after changing a new Hydra330 depthsounder

sollbergerp <sollbergerp@...>
 

Hi all,
I'm an owner of the SANTORIN 104 and we had to change the transducer
of the old 330 echolot.
After changing the transducer, I got some depth signals. After a
standing time of about 4 month in turkish marina, I got neither a
depth nor a correct speed on the display. So I think, I have also a
problem in the central unit of my B&G.
Does anybody know more about B&G and help activities before a rigorous
change of the whole installation?
I look forward to reading any help. At the moment the yacht is in
turkish water and without any depth signal, it is a little bit
uncomfortable.

Best regards
Philipp


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

dlm48@...
 

I think that is a dumb idea - probably one of the dumbest ideas i have seen on this group.? Why would you tell lies about your last port of call - get caught out doing that and the shit could really start to hit the fan - lets just imagine that the US and other authorities have been watching and monitoring your progress from Cuba to Florida.? Remember the Caribbean into FL is on one of the main drug routes so this is not as unlikely as it would first appear - and then you try and say you were not there.? This is one sure way to get your boat taken apart piece by piece until they dont find what you were not hiding - or get the boat impounded and sold off at auction There was some clown who tried to smuggle in a fair number of Cuban cigars to another Caribbean country.? In fact all he did was just not declare them on board - so he was assumed to be a smuggler - he ended up in jail and lost his boat - dont mess with the authorities be nice friendly totally up front and totally legal.

regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:23 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



























Ian, You will have no problem with Cuba. Keep your zarpe from whatever country you clear out of, tell immigration in Cuba not to keep your zarpe and not to stamp your passport,and when you get to U S tell the authorities you came from the other place. The authorities in Cuba know the problems we have in the US and they will help you,especially since our so called helpful country sent Haiti 5 million dollars for aid after hurricane Hanna and only sent $100, 000 to Cuba. As usual our country tries to win the peoples minds before we win their hearts. When you go there visit a nice hotel and sign up for some first class tours, you will really see Cuba and know why I think its one of the best islands in the Caribbean. John 'Moon dog' sm248



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: kimberlite@optonline.netDate: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:20:56 -0400Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



Ian,I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.It had an owner from Chile on board.I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. Imet another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami toHavana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscatethe boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.Fair Winds,EricAmel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite'-----Original Message-----From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy JenkinsSent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AMTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entryHi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visitsome former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might bearriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is thereanyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewedby two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating inthe Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hoursnotice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of thelegislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within thesame marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but itwould be interesting to know.We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in tothe US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend aninterview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel ownerout there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad_______________________________________
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Ian, You will have no problem with Cuba. Keep your zarpe from whatever country you clear out of, tell immigration in Cuba not to keep your zarpe and not to stamp your passport,and when you get to U S tell the authorities you came from the other place. The authorities in Cuba know the problems we have in the US and they will help you,especially since our so called helpful country sent Haiti 5 million dollars for aid after hurricane Hanna and only sent $100, 000 to Cuba. As usual our country tries to win the peoples minds before we win their hearts. When you go there visit a nice hotel and sign up for some first class tours, you will really see Cuba and know why I think its one of the best islands in the Caribbean. John 'Moon dog' sm248

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: kimberlite@optonline.netDate: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:20:56 -0400Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

Ian,I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.It had an owner from Chile on board.I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. Imet another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami toHavana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscatethe boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.Fair Winds,EricAmel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite'-----Original Message-----From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy JenkinsSent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AMTo: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entryHi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visitsome former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might bearriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is thereanyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewedby two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating inthe Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hoursnotice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of thelegislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within thesame marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but itwould be interesting to know.We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in tothe US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend aninterview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel ownerout there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad__________________________________________________________Win New York holidays with Kellogg's & Live Searchhttp://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354033/direct/01/------------------------------------Yahoo! Groups Links





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Rép. : [Amel Yacht Owners] Cutlass bearing replacements

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

As far as i know, cutlass bearings are lubrified, at least on my boats, by the water penetrating in the grooves.
 
The real work is prying them out!
 
Serge, Mango #51

--- En date de : Mar, 16.9.08, Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com> a écrit :

De: Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@operatingtech.com>
Objet: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cutlass bearing replacements
À: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: mardi 16 Septembre 2008, 15 h 30







Dear Group
I have replaced my Amel cutlass bearing many times using factory
replacement parts and must do so again later this month----has anyone
located seals that are better then those used by the factory or
designed an improved brass housing that will extend bearing life ???
Also I would be interested in recommendations for a bearing
grease----lithium grease is what I now use----any better ideas??
Best Jim Dernehl
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Cutlass bearing replacements

Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@...>
 

Dear Group
I have replaced my Amel cutlass bearing many times using factory
replacement parts and must do so again later this month----has anyone
located seals that are better then those used by the factory or
designed an improved brass housing that will extend bearing life ???
Also I would be interested in recommendations for a bearing
grease----lithium grease is what I now use----any better ideas??
Best Jim Dernehl
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

dlm48@...
 

Thanks for that Robin,

Going into - transiting - Washington DC they 'the Agriculture people' even confiscated six tins of Haggis HELLLLLP surly not WMD's

Also since 911 now that they have? the fingerprint and eye recognition sensors and i SUSPECT better software and database access the HS people are much nicer and much more 'human'. Sadly they dont seem to all sing from the same hymn book but they are for sure getting better.

regards

David

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From: Robin Cooter <robincooter@yahoo.co.uk>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 4:45 pm
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David's comments re entry from Cuba are essentially correct.?? American citizens are not banned from visiting Cuba,? They are banned from spending money in Cuba and it is the IRS that gives them hassle and threatens prosecutions.?? All this nonsence could change if the Democrats get into the White House at the elections!??? We entered (U.K. registered boat with U.K. citizens on board) at Key West twice from Havana and there was no problem from Immigration or Customs.? Agriculture were waiting on the dock at 03.00 to check us in and removed all fresh, Cuban,?food from the boat - rubber gloves and sealed plastic sacks!?? ( My wife thought he was the dock hand and threw him lines, which, in fairness he tied up, but then didn't go away.?? Then we found out he was from Agriculture!)

?

To come in by sea we needed a "10 year multiple entry visa".?? When you arrive you are given the appropriate slip which you hang onto for grim death and hand in, or post back, (this may have changed.) when you leave the country.?? Most Americans dislike their immigration / HS as much as foreigners but with 3 entries by boat and 1 by air, as well as checking in regularly for the?11 months?that we were in the States?we didn't have the slighest problem and found everybody we dealt with to be pleasant and professional - maybe we were exceptionally lucky!

?

Robin Cooter

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From: dlm48@aol.com <dlm48@aol.com>

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, 15 September, 2008, 10:06 AM



Sorry folks but that is BOLLOCKS.... ......... ..clearing into the USA you MUST put in your last port of call? if you put Havana that would i am told be somewhat problematic (HEARSAY) however? visiting Cuba resulting in confiscating the boat i think not.



It is NOT illegal visit Cuba or to sail from Cuba to the USA? however US folks are 'i think' still banned 'officially' from visiting Cuba - not that it stops them from going.



I have some 'interesting locations/entry stamps' in my passport and 'occasionally' i do get questioned as to why i went there but this is i think just nosiness by the HS person at the desk it has never resulted in anything other than a few friendly questions.



Sadly i think when Fidel dies all this will change and America will be in Cuba by the thousands bringing 'democracy and capitalism' to free the Cubans. This will have nothing to do with finding another market for America so close to home of course.? So if you can go there go now. Yes it will be more difficult cruising Cuba than the rest of the Caribbean but from what i have heard totally worth the hassle.



BUT back to Clearing IN and OUT of the USA. Clearing INTO the USA you fill out three forms -? one of the forms the smaller of the three - is white for US visa holders and is green for UK non visa holders ( the tear off part of the green form is your Visa Waver) and others who qualify under the visa waver agreement AND who are arriving on a commercial carrier - this form both white and green versions has a tear off part that you get fixed into your passport - typically stapled onto a page in your passport - the other form is a customs declaration and is about any goods you are carrying (or not) and are importing into the USA? - and? finally the biggest form is about the boat and people on board including last port of call. Once you have cleared IN and cleared customs the only bit of paper you retain is the tear off part of form one and a stamp in your passport of course.



Clearing OUT - you simply turn up - say you are clearing out - present the passport - they remove the tear off part of form one - and you sail away........ ......... ...you do not fill out any forms that say anything about intended destination - so again confiscation of the boat is rubbish.?



regards



David



-----Original Message-----

From: eric <kimberlite@optonlin e.net>

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 7:20 pm

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



Ian,



I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.



It had an owner from Chile on board.



I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. I



met another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami to



Havana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscate



the boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.



Fair Winds,



Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



'



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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com



[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins



Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AM



To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit



some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be



arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there



anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed



by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in



the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours



notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the



legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the



same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it



would be interesting to know.



We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to



the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.



All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an



interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner



out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.



Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
 

David's comments re entry from Cuba are essentially correct.   American citizens are not banned from visiting Cuba,  They are banned from spending money in Cuba and it is the IRS that gives them hassle and threatens prosecutions.   All this nonsence could change if the Democrats get into the White House at the elections!    We entered (U.K. registered boat with U.K. citizens on board) at Key West twice from Havana and there was no problem from Immigration or Customs.  Agriculture were waiting on the dock at 03.00 to check us in and removed all fresh, Cuban, food from the boat - rubber gloves and sealed plastic sacks!   ( My wife thought he was the dock hand and threw him lines, which, in fairness he tied up, but then didn't go away.   Then we found out he was from Agriculture!)
 
To come in by sea we needed a "10 year multiple entry visa".   When you arrive you are given the appropriate slip which you hang onto for grim death and hand in, or post back, (this may have changed.) when you leave the country.   Most Americans dislike their immigration / HS as much as foreigners but with 3 entries by boat and 1 by air, as well as checking in regularly for the 11 months that we were in the States we didn't have the slighest problem and found everybody we dealt with to be pleasant and professional - maybe we were exceptionally lucky!
 
Robin Cooter
Santorin 004 - Belouga

--- On Mon, 15/9/08, dlm48@aol.com <dlm48@aol.com> wrote:

From: dlm48@aol.com <dlm48@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, 15 September, 2008, 10:06 AM







Sorry folks but that is BOLLOCKS.... ......... ..clearing into the USA you MUST put in your last port of call? if you put Havana that would i am told be somewhat problematic (HEARSAY) however? visiting Cuba resulting in confiscating the boat i think not.

It is NOT illegal visit Cuba or to sail from Cuba to the USA? however US folks are 'i think' still banned 'officially' from visiting Cuba - not that it stops them from going.

I have some 'interesting locations/entry stamps' in my passport and 'occasionally' i do get questioned as to why i went there but this is i think just nosiness by the HS person at the desk it has never resulted in anything other than a few friendly questions.

Sadly i think when Fidel dies all this will change and America will be in Cuba by the thousands bringing 'democracy and capitalism' to free the Cubans. This will have nothing to do with finding another market for America so close to home of course.? So if you can go there go now. Yes it will be more difficult cruising Cuba than the rest of the Caribbean but from what i have heard totally worth the hassle.

BUT back to Clearing IN and OUT of the USA. Clearing INTO the USA you fill out three forms -? one of the forms the smaller of the three - is white for US visa holders and is green for UK non visa holders ( the tear off part of the green form is your Visa Waver) and others who qualify under the visa waver agreement AND who are arriving on a commercial carrier - this form both white and green versions has a tear off part that you get fixed into your passport - typically stapled onto a page in your passport - the other form is a customs declaration and is about any goods you are carrying (or not) and are importing into the USA? - and? finally the biggest form is about the boat and people on board including last port of call. Once you have cleared IN and cleared customs the only bit of paper you retain is the tear off part of form one and a stamp in your passport of course.

Clearing OUT - you simply turn up - say you are clearing out - present the passport - they remove the tear off part of form one - and you sail away........ ......... ...you do not fill out any forms that say anything about intended destination - so again confiscation of the boat is rubbish.?

regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: eric <kimberlite@optonlin e.net>
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 7:20 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

Ian,

I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.

It had an owner from Chile on board.

I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. I

met another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami to

Havana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscate

the boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

'

-----Original Message-----

From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins

Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit

some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be

arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there

anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed

by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in

the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours

notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the

legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the

same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it

would be interesting to know.

We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to

the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.

All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an

interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner

out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.

Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

dlm48@...
 

Sorry folks but that is BOLLOCKS...............clearing into the USA you MUST put in your last port of call? if you put Havana that would i am told be somewhat problematic (HEARSAY) however? visiting Cuba resulting in confiscating the boat i think not.

It is NOT illegal visit Cuba or to sail from Cuba to the USA? however US folks are 'i think' still banned 'officially' from visiting Cuba - not that it stops them from going.

I have some 'interesting locations/entry stamps' in my passport and 'occasionally' i do get questioned as to why i went there but this is i think just nosiness by the HS person at the desk it has never resulted in anything other than a few friendly questions.

Sadly i think when Fidel dies all this will change and America will be in Cuba by the thousands bringing 'democracy and capitalism' to free the Cubans. This will have nothing to do with finding another market for America so close to home of course.? So if you can go there go now. Yes it will be more difficult cruising Cuba than the rest of the Caribbean but from what i have heard totally worth the hassle.

BUT back to Clearing IN and OUT of the USA. Clearing INTO the USA you fill out three forms -? one of the forms the smaller of the three - is white for US visa holders and is green for UK non visa holders ( the tear off part of the green form is your Visa Waver) and others who qualify under the visa waver agreement AND who are arriving on a commercial carrier - this form both white and green versions has a tear off part that you get fixed into your passport - typically stapled onto a page in your passport - the other form is a customs declaration and is about any goods you are carrying (or not) and are importing into the USA? - and? finally the biggest form is about the boat and people on board including last port of call. Once you have cleared IN and cleared customs the only bit of paper you retain is the tear off part of form one and a stamp in your passport of course.

Clearing OUT - you simply turn up - say you are clearing out - present the passport - they remove the tear off part of form one - and you sail away....................you do not fill out any forms that say anything about intended destination - so again confiscation of the boat is rubbish.?


regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 7:20 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry

























Ian,

I just had Bali Hai at my yacht club here in Huntington.

It had an owner from Chile on board.

I would NOT leave for the USA from Cuba. They might confiscate your boat. I

met another limey in St martin who told me he was clearing out of Miami to

Havana and was told that if he put Havana on the form they would confiscate

the boat. EU boats clearing into the USA do not have much of a problem.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

'



-----Original Message-----

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ian & Judy Jenkins

Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 8:22 AM

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] US entry



Hi y'all, We are thinking of taking Pen Azen, British flagged, to visit

some former colonies next year, arriving in Florida ( shhh... might be

arriving from Havana...) and working our way north to Noo Yawk. Is there

anyone who has recent experience of taking a foreign flagged vessel( crewed

by two Aliens) to the States? There have been scare stories circulating in

the Old World about the boys and girls from Homeland Security, 96 hours

notice of entering US waters, the need ( on a strict reading of the

legislation ) to notify the authorities if you even move berths within the

same marina etc etc. I am sure that in practice it is all much easier but it

would be interesting to know.

We both have UK passports and the UK has a visa free entry if you fly in to

the US but I am not sure if the same applies if you sneak in at 7 knots.

All would be no doubt revealed if I could afford the $300 to attend an

interview at the US embassy but I am sure that there will be an Amel owner

out there somewhere who will have all this at his/her fingertips.

Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Trinidad





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