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Re: Battery replacement

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

No, the Super Maramu has 24-volt battery system.

Judy
S/V BeBe
Amel SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "bobbohn" <bobbohn@...> wrote:

From this thread I'm understanding that SM's have 12-volt battery banks?
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Re: [Amel] Rubber companionway seal

S/Y MELMAR Y - marc <newsgroup@...>
 

hello
richard or anybody else, you mentioned the rubber seal is a seal used by renault. which part is it? where do they use it? would other car manufacturers use the same rubber strip? i'm just wondering if it wouldn't be possible to avoid lengthy and costly orders from france (amel).

cheers, marc
S/Y MELMAR Y, maramu #89, www.melmar.ch
presently stuck at chaguaramas/trinidad


Re: Battery replacement

bobbohn <bobbohn@...>
 

From this thread I'm understanding that SM's have 12-volt battery banks?

Most deep cycle batteries are produced by the same half dozen manufacturers then sold to retailers who add their own brand name stickers for resale. Less expensive (in general) have less lead used in their plates which equals less energy retention and a shorter life. A quick google search will provide some excellent articles on deep cycle batteries like this one:

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance-articles/19907-marine-battery-ratings.html

My Mango has six L-16 batteries in the house bank and another two for the starter. That equals almost a 1200 AH house bank and 380 AH for cranking.

Cheers! - Bob
C'est La Vie - Mango #31


Battery replacement

Patrick McAneny
 

I just checked with a company whose only business is batteries.I've done business with them for years,this was what they told me.What is important, is to look at how many minutes of reserve capacity (RC)at how many amps.They showed me where just four 6v golf cart batteries would provide more capacity than eight 12v batteries.So 8 6v would more than double amps available.Approx. 31 hrs.at a 25 amp draw whereas 8 12v would provide 13 hrs.at a 23 amp draw.I switched my last boat over to golf cart batteries. They run about $89.00 each.Their lenght is about 2 inches shorter,width about 3/4 inch wider,the problem is they are about 3 inches taller.Iam going to see if I could modify the storage or just go with 4, place them foreward in the box where there is more height,less cost,less wiring,same or more amps.Disclaimer,I do not profess to be knowable in this area ,I am only reporting what I was told by someone who seemed to be knowable.It made me wonder why Amel did'nt use 6v rather than 12v.You only need four 6v to get 24v. SM123


Seals in mast

Patrick McAneny
 

I have had lubricant leaking from what I will describe as the manual gearbox in the main furler,where you insert the winch handle.I took the four hex bolts out ,but housing would not buldge. However a seal easily came out that surrounds the socket in which the winch handle goes.My question is ,is there only one seal or am I looking inside at another seal? I can't tell if its another seal or the housing Iam looking out.I am reluctant to try to pry away and damage the housing without knowing that it is in deed a seal.Secondly I can not see how one would be able to refill with lubricant.A small plug on the top would have been made that easy.S/V Shenanigans #123


Re: Battery Replacement

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Barry & Robyn,

We have the Chinese brand 12v Fullriver AGM batteries, but I think they are 110ah. These are the GRP 31 size batteries and are now 28 months in use. We replaced all 13 batteries when in Bonaire mid-November 2006. Had the batts palletized and shipped from Miami to Bonaire for a very economical price. Our starting battery was fine but we replaced it anyway.

The Fullriver batteries are holding up very well (hope that by saying that we don't jinx them). They have not been load tested but appear to be fine. We monitor the voltage and amps used at least twice daily. No problems.

Note, however, that even though the dimension specs were exactly the same as the original Delphi Freedom GRP 31 batteries, the Fullriver batteries are actually a tiny bit more in height. This slight difference necessitated cutting away or routing a few very small areas in the wood cross-supports beneath the passageway bunk to make sufficient space for the battery posts. You have fewer batteries in that same space so that might not be an issue for you, but be prepared for this possible problem during installation.

Judy
S/V BeBe
Amel SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "seagasm" <seagasm@...> wrote:

Unfortunately, it would appear I need to replace my battery bank (ouch!). I have sourced a Chinese brand 12v 120ah from Fullriver and another, an USA brand 12v 110ah from Power-sonic (yes American). Is there anyone using either of these brands since I would be looking at replacing eight of them which are my main 24v supply. I don't seem to be having a problem with the ninth that supplies my 12v supply.

Thank you
Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Re: [Amel] Battery Replacement

Dave_Benjamin
 

I used Power-Sonic for a non-marine application and it performed well. They seem to have a decent reputation. _


From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seagasm
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:52 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Battery Replacement



Unfortunately, it would appear I need to replace my battery bank (ouch!). I
have sourced a Chinese brand 12v 120ah from Fullriver and another, an USA
brand 12v 110ah from Power-sonic (yes American). Is there anyone using
either of these brands since I would be looking at replacing eight of them
which are my main 24v supply. I don't seem to be having a problem with the
ninth that supplies my 12v supply.

Thank you
Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171





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Re: [Amel] Battery Replacement

Dave_Benjamin
 

Wal-Mart batteries? Wal-Mart buys the cheapest crap they can from China. If I was going with something unproven in the marine environment I would at least check out Costco which also sells batteries and doesn't have the absymal track record that Wal-Mart has in dealing with Chinese suppliers.

Trojan Batteries which seem to have a great track record are pretty reasonable. I like the value you get with lead acid batteries compared to gel and AGM but I don't think it's a place to skimp and go with the cheapest available, any more than I would buy the cheapest anchor.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:

We got a new set last year at Wall Mart that were 125 amp hour at the a very good price.� We could not find that level of power at the auto stores and the boat supply places were out of sight.� We did not choose AMG or Gels in that if we had to replace a battery outside the US the lead acid batteries can be found any place in the world.
Be sure to check the cables as you go.�
Good luck and fair winds.
Richard on SM 209

--- On Wed, 3/11/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Battery Replacement
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 4:48 AM












Barry,



Are your batteries group 31 batteries?



I replaced mine with interstate batteries cost about $80- each.



Fair Winds,



Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of seagasm

Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:52 AM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [Amel] Battery Replacement



Unfortunately, it would appear I need to replace my battery bank (ouch!). I

have sourced a Chinese brand 12v 120ah from Fullriver and another, an USA

brand 12v 110ah from Power-sonic (yes American). Is there anyone using

either of these brands since I would be looking at replacing eight of them

which are my main 24v supply. I don't seem to be having a problem with the

ninth that supplies my 12v supply.



Thank you

Best Regards

Barry and Robyn

Tradewinds III SM 171



































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Re: [Amel] Battery Replacement

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

We got a new set last year at Wall Mart that were 125 amp hour at the a very good price.  We could not find that level of power at the auto stores and the boat supply places were out of sight.  We did not choose AMG or Gels in that if we had to replace a battery outside the US the lead acid batteries can be found any place in the world.
Be sure to check the cables as you go. 
Good luck and fair winds.
Richard on SM 209

--- On Wed, 3/11/09, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Battery Replacement
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 4:48 AM












Barry,



Are your batteries group 31 batteries?



I replaced mine with interstate batteries cost about $80- each.



Fair Winds,



Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of seagasm

Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:52 AM

To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com

Subject: [Amel] Battery Replacement



Unfortunately, it would appear I need to replace my battery bank (ouch!). I

have sourced a Chinese brand 12v 120ah from Fullriver and another, an USA

brand 12v 110ah from Power-sonic (yes American). Is there anyone using

either of these brands since I would be looking at replacing eight of them

which are my main 24v supply. I don't seem to be having a problem with the

ninth that supplies my 12v supply.



Thank you

Best Regards

Barry and Robyn

Tradewinds III SM 171



































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Re: [Amel] Re: Life Raft Location

Don Henderson <maramu48@...>
 

Hi ALL,
   Attached are (4) photos of our solution to the liferaft dilemma. The cradle is made with 1/4" x 2" 316-stainless. This design may not work for Super Maramu's. Retaining strap is 1/8" x 1-1/2" stainless. Weight of 119lb raft rests on the aft deck. Upon releasing the pelican hook, one merely tips the raft over. No lifting. 10 second deployment. Very sturdy. This keeps the mizzen dance deck clear.
Don and Pam
s/v MINERVA

--- On Wed, 3/11/09, joemac4sail <joemac4sail@yahoo.ie> wrote:

From: joemac4sail <joemac4sail@yahoo.ie>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Life Raft Location
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 4:26 AM






Hi Barry and Robin

I raised this subject in the past, you can find the results through the search engine. I still think the locker is fine for the storage of your liferaft. Just one thing suggested by another member and that was to raise the liferaft to sit just below the lip of the locker, (we used plastic beer crates cut to size for the job). the technique is now to lift the liferaft partially out of the locker, use the lip as a fulcrum and roll the raft on to the deck. There is considerably less effort required using this method and as you are working beside the cockpit, you are less exposed to the elements. Our raft is a 10 man canister (we do day trips for club members so require a large raft)so a lot heavier.

Regards Joe McDonnell
--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, "seagasm" <seagasm@... > wrote:

Hi Everyone,we are preparing our SM for a Pacific cruise and have changed the 6 man Zodiac liferaft from a soft pack to a canister that I would prefer to mount on the deck/cabin top. Before I get carried away with my trusty Ryobi drill, does anyone have any suggestions for a most suitable location and WHY?

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM171


Re: {Disarmed} [Amel] Life Raft Location

John and Anne Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Hello Barry and Robyn,
My solution was to mount a cradle on new rail on the transom as manhandling a heavy liferaft in rough seas
would be too difficult for me. You can see pics in the photos section...it is in the last section under the heading SM319 Changes to Bali Hai.
Good luck on your cruise, we wish we could do it again. Best wishes, Anne and John,

----- Original Message -----
From: seagasm
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:42 AM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Amel] Life Raft Location


Hi Everyone,we are preparing our SM for a Pacific cruise and have changed the 6 man Zodiac liferaft from a soft pack to a canister that I would prefer to mount on the deck/cabin top. Before I get carried away with my trusty Ryobi drill, does anyone have any suggestions for a most suitable location and WHY?

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM171





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Re: Life Raft Location

joseph mc donnell
 

Hi Barry and Robin

I raised this subject in the past, you can find the results through the search engine. I still think the locker is fine for the storage of your liferaft. Just one thing suggested by another member and that was to raise the liferaft to sit just below the lip of the locker, (we used plastic beer crates cut to size for the job). the technique is now to lift the liferaft partially out of the locker, use the lip as a fulcrum and roll the raft on to the deck. There is considerably less effort required using this method and as you are working beside the cockpit, you are less exposed to the elements. Our raft is a 10 man canister (we do day trips for club members so require a large raft)so a lot heavier.

Regards Joe McDonnell

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "seagasm" <seagasm@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,we are preparing our SM for a Pacific cruise and have changed the 6 man Zodiac liferaft from a soft pack to a canister that I would prefer to mount on the deck/cabin top. Before I get carried away with my trusty Ryobi drill, does anyone have any suggestions for a most suitable location and WHY?

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM171


Re: [Amel] Battery Replacement

eric freedman
 

Barry,

Are your batteries group 31 batteries?

I replaced mine with interstate batteries cost about $80- each.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seagasm
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:52 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Battery Replacement



Unfortunately, it would appear I need to replace my battery bank (ouch!). I
have sourced a Chinese brand 12v 120ah from Fullriver and another, an USA
brand 12v 110ah from Power-sonic (yes American). Is there anyone using
either of these brands since I would be looking at replacing eight of them
which are my main 24v supply. I don't seem to be having a problem with the
ninth that supplies my 12v supply.

Thank you
Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Re: Battery Replacement

MERTZ <jlmertz@...>
 

No,
but I use TROJAN BATTERIES it's made in the US is cheep AND very goog !
jluc
CottonBay

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "seagasm" <seagasm@...> wrote:

Unfortunately, it would appear I need to replace my battery bank (ouch!). I have sourced a Chinese brand 12v 120ah from Fullriver and another, an USA brand 12v 110ah from Power-sonic (yes American). Is there anyone using either of these brands since I would be looking at replacing eight of them which are my main 24v supply. I don't seem to be having a problem with the ninth that supplies my 12v supply.

Thank you
Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Battery Replacement

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

Unfortunately, it would appear I need to replace my battery bank (ouch!). I have sourced a Chinese brand 12v 120ah from Fullriver and another, an USA brand 12v 110ah from Power-sonic (yes American). Is there anyone using either of these brands since I would be looking at replacing eight of them which are my main 24v supply. I don't seem to be having a problem with the ninth that supplies my 12v supply.

Thank you
Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM 171


Life Raft Location

seagasm <seagasm@...>
 

Hi Everyone,we are preparing our SM for a Pacific cruise and have changed the 6 man Zodiac liferaft from a soft pack to a canister that I would prefer to mount on the deck/cabin top. Before I get carried away with my trusty Ryobi drill, does anyone have any suggestions for a most suitable location and WHY?

Best Regards
Barry and Robyn
Tradewinds III SM171


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MERTZ <jlmertz@...>
 

New link uploaded to amelyachtowners


Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a link has been uploaded to the LINK area of the amelyachtowners
group.

Link to : Slideshow : Oceanis 46 entering in Zumaia Harburg in Spain

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Regards,
j-luc
CottonBay


Re: [Amel] Re:Water Loss

karkauai
 

Thanks, Bob,
I wasn't going to tackle the watermaker until I get to Ft. Lauderdale in May...now thinking I'll go there instead of the Bahamas and leave it with Ray for whatever I need to have done.  I haven't run it since I got the boat, and have now flushed all the unfiltered water out of the tank and refilled with filtered water.  I opened the fresh water valve to the desalinator and let it flush for about an hour with the filtered water.  I'm finding a lot of things that haven't been maintained for quite a while and I seriously doubt that the watermaker is an exception.  I'm assuming I'll have to have it serviced before it can be used.
Kent
"Kristy" SM 243

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Bob Fritz <sailboatdelivery@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bob Fritz <sailboatdelivery@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re:Water Loss
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 9:23 PM






Kent,

Do not operate your watermaker at the dock. Harbor water is usually quite dirty and frequently polluted making this a bad idea. Also, if there is any oil in the water, you can severely compromise the membranes. A watermaker should be operated only in seawater that is free of such contaminates.

As others have stated, dockwater should be filtered to remove chlorine before adding it to your tank.

Bob

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Re: [Amel] Re: Sharki interior refitting

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

joe the seals that we used were screwed into place there were 9 or 10 of them.
Richard SM 209

--- On Mon, 3/9/09, joemac4sail <joemac4sail@yahoo.ie> wrote:

From: joemac4sail <joemac4sail@yahoo.ie>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Sharki interior refitting
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 5:53 AM












Hi there quick question do you intend doing the job yourself or getting someone in to do it for you. I sourced the 3mm foam required at an automotive refurbishment shop. Most of the panels on an Amel are small enough, that you can use their off-cuts. Also they will have ample supplies of the right glue. It worked out at a fraction of the cost and while admittedly not as good as a professionals work, after a practice panel or two, easy enough to figure out. The head cloth can be used as a template or just reattached to the new foam.



Regards Joe































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Re: [Amel] Standing Rigging Replacement Interval & Techniques

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Gary, we have SM 209 with most of the original rigging in place.  We did replace on of the lowers last year in France as it had started to pull out.  After having Amel look at the rest of the rig they determine that it was in good conditions.  In speaking with them it was explained to us that most rigs go at least 15 years.  Our last Amel Maramu had the upper replaced after 18 year the rest was in good shape.  Now that said. If you are worried about your rig:
1- get and old pair of stockings a 10 power glass and go up the masts and check each fitting if you find lots of rust it is time.
2- as you go down the mast take the stocking while wearing gloves and wipe the stays with the stocking.  If you find ANY broken wire it is time to change.  (I like to spray some WD 40 on the stocking to protect from rust.  Yes SS will rust when there is no oxygen present.)
3- Now inspect the stays on deck the same way check each for heavy rust and for cracks.
4- the hardest to check is the triact between the mizzen and main.  Check the fitting in any case.

If you have to replace the stays all of the fitting you spoke of will work just fine.  When using "screw" type fitting be sure to put them on your to do list as they can loosen with time.
Make sure you use good quality SS wire.  There are lots out there I'd stay with 306 or 316.  Remember that is not the strongest stuff in the world.
Good luck
Richard and Joan in Corsica heading for Annapolis in April SM 209

--- On Mon, 3/9/09, amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

From: amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Standing Rigging Replacement Interval & Techniques
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:03 AM












As my boat is now 8 years old I am beginning to think about standing rigging replacement. I have heard various opinions about when to do that, (e.g. at ten years, depends on miles and types of sailing, depends on where the boat is etc). My boat has spent 6 years in the Caribbean and 2 years on the east coast of the US. We have sailed only about six months of each year due to hurricane storage on the hard. Total sea miles is about 15,000. My boat has the original Amel supplied standing rigging with swaged fittings. I consider my boat in the class of driven only by a little old lady to church on Sundays yet it lives in a harsh environment and has weather some serious sailing.



I would be interested in hearing others opinions. Do you just replace the swaged fittings and cable or do you need to replace the turnbuckles and other attaching fittings? Do you do this on condition or based on calendar years, or some other factor? Any preference for Staylock or Norseman fittings as opposed to swaged fittings? Is our Amel cable and fittings metric or can we get compatible replacements here in the USA.



All opinions welcome and will be considered.



Regards,



Gary Silver Amel Super Maramu Hull #335 Delivered July 2001