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problem em

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Gary,
sorry I receive all your em , but I receive back my answer to you, also the last one with TEST COMPLETE
I have never had such a problem !?!?
Gianni


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Impeller Puller Tool

drdavegoodman
 

I echo Ian and Judy's response. I recently had the original Onan
water pump rebuilt (1300+ hours on it!) and ordered a new pump also.
The old/original pump was chewing up impellas. Pulling the pump off
requires only undoing of 2 bolts and the hoses attached. If the
impella is broken, its easy to check the hoses for loose fragments,
put the spare pump on, and change the old impella at your leisure.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ian & Judy Jenkins"
<ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

There is an alternative, really simple, means of accessing the Onan
impeller.
1. Simply disconnect the two water pipes ( by loosening the two
jubilee
clips and pulling the pipes off the pump)
2. Undo the two bolts which attach the pump to the engine. There is
no seal
between the pump and the engine but the first time you detach the
pump you
may have to give it a tap to part it from the engine.
3.With the pump now free you can sit in the cockpit with it, pour
yourself a
beer and withdraw and replace the impeller at your leisure.
The only downside is that your excuse for colourful language and
skinned
knuckles is somewhat reduced.
cheers, Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Uruguay


From: "gwollenberg" <bozocinq@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Impeller Puller Tool
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:35:59 -0000

I am looking for information on who to contact to acquirer the Impeller
Puller Tool shown in the photo section. Thankyou




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Air Conditioning Water Pump

drdavegoodman
 

On SM #230, 1998,I recently had the air-conditioning system checked
out, and there were concerns about the ac water pump leaking. Has
anyone either rebuilt or replaced the AC water pump. What is the
expected life of the Clima AC components, if they are used regularly
in the tropics. Finally, I understand from reading other messages
that some have put a 4th AC unit in the galley area. Exactly where
was this unit placed. I also understand that some have replaced the
saloon AC unit with a 16,000 btu unit. Did this larger unit
effectively cool the galley area also (assuming a second duct was also
installed with this unit.
Dave


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Transmission

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Mike. I would suggest that you also think about
all new bearings along with your seals. Salt water
has done them NO GOOD....

I would also take a very close look at the
transmission case. If you hit that hard and got water
in the gear box the chances are that the case has been
cracked or is at least damaged... Seals normally fail
from wear not a prop hit.

In any case when you are having the transmission
servcied I'd also check the alignment with hte engine
and the prop drive to be sure they are aligned
properly. (less then .005" out of alignment when you
check with a dial indicator)

And second I would not let run the boat to far with
oil and water as at some point it will fail big time.

Good luck and fair winds...
Richard SM 209


--- michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Hello Group,
Here is a question for you. has anyone experienced
the
oil in the transmission (15W40) appearing like
milkshake? most probably caused by sea water leaking
into it. While motoring near Langkawi the prop hit a
heavy log. Prior to it, the oil looked clear. The
boat
will be hauled out in Rebak, Langkawi in December,
and
new seals on the shaft will be installed. I will
also
try to check the shaft for possible bending.
Can you comment on this or point to other causes.
Also, the seals and brass sleeve were replaced one
year earlier.

Thank you all, Michael Grunstein SM2000 #345



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Amel Transmission

michael grunstein <mgrunstein2002@...>
 

Hello Group,
Here is a question for you. has anyone experienced the
oil in the transmission (15W40) appearing like
milkshake? most probably caused by sea water leaking
into it. While motoring near Langkawi the prop hit a
heavy log. Prior to it, the oil looked clear. The boat
will be hauled out in Rebak, Langkawi in December, and
new seals on the shaft will be installed. I will also
try to check the shaft for possible bending.
Can you comment on this or point to other causes.
Also, the seals and brass sleeve were replaced one
year earlier.

Thank you all, Michael Grunstein SM2000 #345


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magic tool

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Gary,
yes please send me more detailed photos. $ 100 shipping is too much !
Still problem with your mail box service provider.

About antifouling for prop blades I use and I 'm very happy now
http://www.marlinpaint.com/EN_MARLINPAINT_ANTIFOULINGS.html

First you have to remove residual antifouling.
From now NEVER touch the blades without gloves !
Scratch the blades, only, with a very rough send -paper ( n 80/100) . Don't worry about it ;-)).
Brush away the dust.
Now, 1 hand coat METAL PRIMER and than 1 VELOX PLUS on dry. Than second coat VELOX PLUS after 24 h.
That's all, but it is an other life !
I live in VENEZIA and the Marlin is near TRIESTE, about 1 and 1/2 hour by car, but, for the first time, I knew about this very special antifouling from an australian sailor ! The world is so little !
I used it in the MED for two season (6 monthes sailing and 6 wintering in marina ) and the blades were ok. Some times I check in the water.
I paint only the blades( these are the most important part for the propulsion), and not where they turn.So the problem is for the other surfaces of the prop system I prefer unpainted and I grease a lot . It helps but after 3,4 monthes it's better to take a diving.
Thanks for your support and to the next,
buon vento
Gianni


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[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Charlie:

Thanks for your reply and to the others who chimed in with their service
experience. I don't have any vibration or noise, but I noted during the
last haul out, rusty colored water emerge from the grease holes when I
lubed the prop and the bearings. I also felt a "gritty" sensation in the
bearings as I rotated the prop blades.

I have noticed that the yard guys wash the prop with their pressure washer
during the haul out and I wondered if they "blasted" some sand or other
foreign material into the bearings. Anybody have thoughts on this.

I have just not experienced the gritty sensation on the prop blades before
and that is what lead me to think that I should do a prophylactic service.

By the way, I scape my prop and burnish the blades about every month while in
the water. What do you do to keep it clean?

Thanks to all,

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, svmalaika@... wrote:

Gary,

Are you experiencing symptom (vibrations, loose or stick blades...) that
lead you to conclude it is time to change the Autoprop bearings? I spoke with a
Brutons rep at the London boat show a few years ago and he said that
replacement was only necessary if you experienced symptoms and that in a well
maintained prop (regularly cleaned, polished and greased) they should not occur until
"thousands" of hours of use. My prop currently has about 1400 hours and
works smoothly.

Charlie
S/V MALAIKA II (SM#336)



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Re: Impeller Puller Tool

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hello to all those who have requested impeller pullers, including Giovanni.

We are ramping up the production line tomorrow (Oct 1) [it isn't a very
big production line as we only make 10 at a time] and should be able to
ship by Tuesday Oct 2nd. Thanks for the interest and for the alternative
suggestions. Isn't this site great for exchanging information on how to
best care for our boats?

Regards to all,

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eutikia2003" <gtesta23@...> wrote:

Hi Gary,
sorry again ,I cannot contact you at this addres AgCEagle@...
Can you contact me, please, at gtesta23@... ?
Thanks to the next,
Gianni


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

svmalaika@...
 

Gary,

Based on the symptoms you have noticed I agree that bearing replacement is a
good idea. Certainly any sign of water from the grease holes is cause for
concern.

I do not allow pressure washing of the prop. I use a combination of a
scraper and brass brush to remove any fouling and residual anti-fouling, then
"polish" the prop with a VERY fine polishing wheel on my cordless (weak) drill. A
bit laborious, but does a nice job.

While in the water I dive about three or four times a season and clean the
prop with the same scraper and brush. So far, no problems. The best indicator
for cleaning is maximum, flat water RPMs. As soon as they start to drop I know
it is diving time.

Initially I did not anti-foul the prop, but left it as delivered in La
Rochelle. However, during an Amel service in Hyeres a few years ago they
recommended applying a two part, spray on Intenational prop anti-fouling product. It
seemed to reduce the fouling, but there are so many variables I can't be sure.
It does increase the prop polishing work a bit. This year I applied a
similar product available and highly recommended here in Spain. Time will tell.

I've also heard of a professionally applied Australian product that produces
a clear, slippery surface that is supposed to be effective. A world cruising
friend from Seattle came through Barcelona last winter and found his prop
clean after two years. However, he had been underway most of the time, so who
knows?

All the best,

Charlie
MALAIKA II (SM # 336)



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

eric freedman
 

I have about 2200 hours on mine and it is fine.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svmalaika@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 3:27 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement



Gary,

Are you experiencing symptom (vibrations, loose or stick blades...) that
lead you to conclude it is time to change the Autoprop bearings? I spoke
with a
Brutons rep at the London boat show a few years ago and he said that
replacement was only necessary if you experienced symptoms and that in a
well
maintained prop (regularly cleaned, polished and greased) they should not
occur until
"thousands" of hours of use. My prop currently has about 1400 hours and
works smoothly.

Charlie
S/V MALAIKA II (SM#336)

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEATERS

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Dan, I don't have a Webasto, but I installed a Wallas diesel heater. It was the simplest one I could find as I didn't want to run any ducts throughout the boat and I only wanted to heat the main cabin. I took off the existing light over the slide-out main cabin berth and installed the unit there only drilling one small addional hole. The mounting bracket uses only 2 holes. I used the existing wires for the light to power the unit and ran the small diesel hose behind the bunk, down into the floor lockers and aft to the engine room and into the top of the fuel tank.Very easy. I then drilled the hole for the exaust through the cabin side through the black plastic aft of fixed cabin window. I bought the side mounted exaust unit. I can take the system out easily later and have little repair work to .We're in Chile now where its chilly, and its working just fine. See photos under "Moon Dog". John SM 248


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: captdan@sailpapa.comDate: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:03:48 +0000Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] HEATERS




ANYONE OUT THERE INSTALLED A WEBASTO Hydronic Heater or similar heating system in their Super Maramu? If so can you fill me in on the do's and don't's? THANKSCapt Dans/v PAPA II SM #317captdan@sailpapa.com801-556-7858


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Impeller Puller Tool

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

There is an alternative, really simple, means of accessing the Onan impeller.
1. Simply disconnect the two water pipes ( by loosening the two jubilee clips and pulling the pipes off the pump)
2. Undo the two bolts which attach the pump to the engine. There is no seal between the pump and the engine but the first time you detach the pump you may have to give it a tap to part it from the engine.
3.With the pump now free you can sit in the cockpit with it, pour yourself a beer and withdraw and replace the impeller at your leisure.
The only downside is that your excuse for colourful language and skinned knuckles is somewhat reduced.
cheers, Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Uruguay


From: "gwollenberg" <bozocinq@wollenberg.net>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Impeller Puller Tool
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:35:59 -0000

I am looking for information on who to contact to acquirer the Impeller
Puller Tool shown in the photo section. Thankyou




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] davits on 54

Martin Bevan <yachtcaduceus@...>
 

Photo attached. The davits are, from memory rated at 250kg+. Our dinghy weighs 32kg and the outboard the same so all up no more than 75kg which gives a lot of spare capacity.

Given this, we notice no apopreciable trim variation.

Sorry have no info on the fibreglass arch and I do not have aphotograph. Hopefully someone might contribute.

Regards,

Martin Bevan

----- Original Message ----
From: Hugh Levins <hlevins@eircom.net>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 27 September, 2007 2:05:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] davits on 54

Martin,

I saw Caducius exhibited at Southampton last week - very nice!

Can you please send me the davits photo? Is the trim visibly affected by combined weight - davits/tender/ outboard? It would be interesting also to get photo and more info on the fibreglass arch.

Hugh

----- Original Message -----
From: Martin Bevan
To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] davits on 54

We took delivery of Amel 54 No 56, Caduceus, in May 2007 and are delighted with it.

We took the only davit option currently offered, the SL electric. We like them and they are easy to use. Do note however that they are placed on the outside of the stern and are hence a longer distance apart than on many other 54 footers. We have a Southern Pacific Shearwater 3.2m dinghy that was bought because of its light weight, and it just fits, anything smaller would have been a problem. Anything too much bigger would also be a problem as it would be wider than the stern. The davits are definately overkill for this size of dinghy but they do work well.

The attached photograph may help explain. If it does not arrive due to Yahoo, let me know and I will send it directly to your email.

The main difficulty that we have encountered is that we cannot raise the dinghy fully, for travelling, with the outboard in situ. This would have required a larger dinghy which as I have explained, we did not want.

We have seen other 54's fitted with a white fibreglass arch that supports dinghy davits and provides a platform for solar panels, wind generators etc. These are not either supplied by Amel or approved and have been fitted elsewhere. We cannot help with any further information, perhaps other owners can?

Hope that this helps.

Regards,

Martin and Elizabeth Bevan

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To: amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, 10 September, 2007 10:10:19 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] davits on 54

Does anyone has experience with the electrical or manual davits on
the new 54 offered by Amel ?
Due to the fact we will get ours delivered beginning next year we're
looking for more info about this practical option.
Think they will be very handsome in overall use but we also have the
opinion that they give this beautiful 54 a bit ugly look.
Will be very thankful for all tips, experiences and suggestions
regarding the 54

Good winds
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Re: Impeller Puller Tool

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Gary,
sorry again ,I cannot contact you at this addres AgCEagle@comcast.net.
Can you contact me, please, at gtesta23@tin.it ?
Thanks to the next,
Gianni
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Hello Giovanni:

See this message:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/message/3273

or just skip down a couple of messages on this forum to message #
3273
for my contact information.

Let's see if Yahoo will allow the email address to come through:

AgCEagle@...

Happy to add you to the list. See my notes about foreign shipping.

Kind regards,

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "eutikia2003" <gtesta23@>
wrote:

Hi Gary,
sorry I cannot contact you with your em. Please can you wright it
again, overall the second half after @ ?
I wish to order your magical tool !
all the best
Giovanni TESTA
s/v EUTIKIA SM 2000 n 428
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

Rob Brennan <brennan@...>
 

I'm at 2300 hrs and all is well.

Rob of Nebo

SM251



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svmalaika@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, 29 September 2007 5:27 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement



Gary,

Are you experiencing symptom (vibrations, loose or stick blades...) that
lead you to conclude it is time to change the Autoprop bearings? I spoke
with a
Brutons rep at the London boat show a few years ago and he said that
replacement was only necessary if you experienced symptoms and that in a
well
maintained prop (regularly cleaned, polished and greased) they should not
occur until
"thousands" of hours of use. My prop currently has about 1400 hours and
works smoothly.

Charlie
S/V MALAIKA II (SM#336)

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Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

JP:

I don't recall this being discussed on the forum before.

I purchased the overhaul kit that includes the bearings, seals and
the special wrench from AB Marine last year. It does not include
the small lubricating hole plug screws or their o-rings. The cost
for that kit, the wrench, a half dozen screws and o-rings was
$507 USD. (A bit on the expensive side I thought.)

I haven't done the job yet so I can't comment how hard it is or the
before and after results. I was planning on doing it just as routine
preventative maintenance as I hit the 600 hour mark.

Regards,

Gary Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335


with the intent of doing the overhau --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com,
galacsea2000 <no_reply@...> wrote:


I may be asking questions that have already been addressed but the
search engine is not working. Has any one replaced the bearings on the
SM2000 Autoprop? How difficult is it? Did you noticed a clear
improvement after (vibration, noise, performance..) ? How many hours
did you go before relacing the bearings?
Any help will be appreciated.
JP on GalacSea Hull #289


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autpprop bearings - Replacement

svmalaika@...
 

Gary,

Are you experiencing symptom (vibrations, loose or stick blades...) that
lead you to conclude it is time to change the Autoprop bearings? I spoke with a
Brutons rep at the London boat show a few years ago and he said that
replacement was only necessary if you experienced symptoms and that in a well
maintained prop (regularly cleaned, polished and greased) they should not occur until
"thousands" of hours of use. My prop currently has about 1400 hours and
works smoothly.

Charlie
S/V MALAIKA II (SM#336)



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Impeller Puller Tool

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

There is an alternative , really simple,way of accessing the impeller on the Onan. Just detach the hoses from the pump, undo the two bolts holding the pump to the engine and then you can sit in the cockpit with the pump, pour yourself a beer and change the impeller at your leisure.No more cursing and bruised knuckles...
Cheers, Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Uruguay


From: "Mike Ondra" <mdondra@verizon.net>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Impeller Puller Tool
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:23:58 -0400

All you really need is a large right angle needle nose pliers. Many types
and sizes available looking something like this.




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58> 11in. 90 Degree Needle Nose Pliers

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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 8:36 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Impeller Puller Tool



I am looking for information on who to contact to acquirer the Impeller
Puller Tool shown in the photo section. Thankyou










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Autpprop bearings - Replacement

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

I may be asking questions that have already been addressed but the
search engine is not working. Has any one replaced the bearings on the
SM2000 Autoprop? How difficult is it? Did you noticed a clear
improvement after (vibration, noise, performance..) ? How many hours
did you go before relacing the bearings?
Any help will be appreciated.
JP on GalacSea Hull #289