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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

dlm48@...
 

I am sorry to disagree - creating an I beam will ensure that you CANT bend
the shank ever again. There are OBVIOUS issues in welding the SS shank but
provided this is done by a coded welder i can see no possible problems. For
sure NOT weakening the existing shank that is just uninformed information.
Having this work done out in the Caribbean or some other third world country yes
you MIGHT get problems but i truly see them as insignificant. Think about
it in a SS pressure vessel of which there are many the welds are the strongest
part of the job this is ONLY an anchor i cant be bothered working out
bending stresses ATM but i can assure you that creating an I beam will stop this
anchor shank being able to be bent with loads that the flukes can generate - if
you foul the anchor on some solid immovable object i would expect the anchor
to bend but maybe the chain or the swivel will be the weakest link (excuse
the pun) and explode before you bend the shank. Following the manufactures
advice is a good strategy especially if you dont have a technical or engineering
brain/mindset but here the shank is obviously under-engineered so it is
quite reasonable and i would suggest acceptable to modify it using good
engineering practices.

regards

David

In a message dated 21/02/2008 20:08:46 GMT Standard Time,
yahoogroups@svbebe.com writes:

Hello Gary and all,

Yes, we experienced a bent shaft on a stainless steel WASI anchor. We
had been at anchor for several hours in 15 - 20kts and 4 foot seas.
When we hauled the anchor, it came up as usual except for a 30 degree
bend in the shaft.

I contacted WASI and was told that bent shafts have been reported to
them but that the frequency was very slight (please see the WASI email
recommending the repair following).

I asked them about creating an I Beam by welding plates to the top and
bottom of the shaft. They responded that heating the stainless shaft
would weaken it. They suggested that I take the shaft to a auto body
shop which would have a cold press heavy enough to press the shaft to
straighten it. We did this in Tortola and all has been fine for
almost 2 years.

Regards,

Bill

<<<<<The following email is from WASI>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Following is my advise to straighten your bent anchor shaft:
I recommend that you take it to a body or machine shop in Road Town or
in St. Thomas which has a hydraulic box frame press. Usually these
devices are driven by hydraulic jacks of sizes 1 ton and larger.

Most important: By no means use -whoever is doing the straightening-
any heat in the process. The damage has been caused by cold forming
and it should be bend back by cold forming. Applying heat to Stainless
Steel will definitely change the molecular structure of the alloy,
with a number of negative effects and results.

Having said that, and looking at the considerable bend in the anchor
shaft, it will take a person with average to above average skills and
experience in cold bending to do the job - not to be undertaken by an
apprentice or amateur.

The critical part of the cold reshaping process is applying the force
at the correct points (fulcrum of arc bend) which requires a bit of
precision and of course the necessary experience..precision and of
with that in mind. It should take 2 people not much more than 15
minutes and will have absolutely NO negative effects on the structural
integrity of the anchor....provided it is done in the proper manner.
We do not recommend adding any reinforcement anywhere along the shaft.
Any considerable side force will bend the shaft any which way and the
reinforcement will then just move that bending point to another spot,
possibly compounding the complexity of a bend.

If you have any further questions or need advise please contact me
directly, even by phone.

Fair winds

Ari Grimm

WASI


AIS made simple...I think?

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Greetings,

We purchased a AIS receiver from Milltech Marine for $189. They are
located at http://www.milltechmarine.com/products.htm. They offer
several products. We chose the Smart Radio SR161 AIS Receiver.

We mounted the AIS receiver behind the nav station near the AM/FM
radio and connected it to 12 volts at the switched 12 volt wiring
block for the Hydra. The AIS is powered "on" when the 12 volt toggle
switch for the Hydra is turned on. To connect the AIS to an antenna,
we bought a BNC "T" connector and 2 screw-on BNC connectors from Radio
Shack. We connected the BNC "T" to the back of the AIS receiver, cut
the antenna wire going to the AM/FM radio and attached the screw-on
BNC connectors to each end of the cut antenna wire, then connected
those to the BNC "T" on the back of the AIS.

Then we ran the included serial cable to a "serial to USB" converter
which we attached to a USB port on our laptop. Just a few software
changes to Maxsea and we began picking up ships on both the Pacific
side and the Caribbean side of the Panama Canal.

It was certainly the best $200 investment we have made.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe SM2 #387


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hello Gary and all,

Yes, we experienced a bent shaft on a stainless steel WASI anchor. We
had been at anchor for several hours in 15 - 20kts and 4 foot seas.
When we hauled the anchor, it came up as usual except for a 30 degree
bend in the shaft.

I contacted WASI and was told that bent shafts have been reported to
them but that the frequency was very slight (please see the WASI email
recommending the repair following).

I asked them about creating an I Beam by welding plates to the top and
bottom of the shaft. They responded that heating the stainless shaft
would weaken it. They suggested that I take the shaft to a auto body
shop which would have a cold press heavy enough to press the shaft to
straighten it. We did this in Tortola and all has been fine for
almost 2 years.

Regards,

Bill

<<<<<The following email is from WASI>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Following is my advise to straighten your bent anchor shaft:
I recommend that you take it to a body or machine shop in Road Town or
in St. Thomas which has a hydraulic box frame press. Usually these
devices are driven by hydraulic jacks of sizes 1 ton and larger.

Most important: By no means use -whoever is doing the straightening-
any heat in the process. The damage has been caused by cold forming
and it should be bend back by cold forming. Applying heat to Stainless
Steel will definitely change the molecular structure of the alloy,
with a number of negative effects and results.

Having said that, and looking at the considerable bend in the anchor
shaft, it will take a person with average to above average skills and
experience in cold bending to do the job - not to be undertaken by an
apprentice or amateur.

The critical part of the cold reshaping process is applying the force
at the correct points (fulcrum of arc bend) which requires a bit of
precision and of course the necessary experience...choose the shop
with that in mind. It should take 2 people not much more than 15
minutes and will have absolutely NO negative effects on the structural
integrity of the anchor....provided it is done in the proper manner.
We do not recommend adding any reinforcement anywhere along the shaft.
Any considerable side force will bend the shaft any which way and the
reinforcement will then just move that bending point to another spot,
possibly compounding the complexity of a bend.

If you have any further questions or need advise please contact me
directly, even by phone.

Fair winds

Ari Grimm

WASI
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<end of email from WASI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Valsat 03 GPS

Armin <n4796p@...>
 

Before buying a new one, I would try to reset the GPS by pressing
ENTER and POWER together for a while when it is starting. The RESET
procedure should be written in the manual.

Armin
SY ASHIA / SM#357

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Krassopoulos Dimitris"
<dkra@...> wrote:







Buy a new one it is going to be much easier than anything else



Dimitris

S/YAlma Libre









From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tonic102004
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Valsat 03 GPS



Hello all

My Valsat 03 GPS is 10 years old. I left the boat for 3 months and
since then the Valsat is not giving the position anymore! Has anyone
experienced the same?
Is it possible to make a reset?

Thanks for any feedback
Paul
SM 227





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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Valsat 03 GPS

Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

Buy a new one it is going to be much easier than anything else



Dimitris

S/YAlma Libre









From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tonic102004
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 6:22 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Valsat 03 GPS



Hello all

My Valsat 03 GPS is 10 years old. I left the boat for 3 months and
since then the Valsat is not giving the position anymore! Has anyone
experienced the same?
Is it possible to make a reset?

Thanks for any feedback
Paul
SM 227


Re: Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Gary,



I replaced my CQR type with the WASI several years back and have loved the
WASI-except for the bending possibility. I now wonder how much of this
discussion has been about which type of anchor. In any case, if some of
this does involve the WASI, I do think that WASI would be a good source of
information. If I am the only one having the problem with the WASI, I will
get in touch with them when I have internet.



Miles



LADYBUG SM 216


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Bill and William:
Not to contradict what Bill has said but to offer some additional information, I was told
by Olivier Beaute at Amel that it really didn't matter how the seals are grouped (2 in and 1
out, or 1 in and 2 out etc). I have chosen to face 2 seals out and one seal in based on the
theory that I would rather have oil leaking out rather than water leaking in - worse
for the environment but protective of the machinery -. Hopefully the three will provide
redundancy enough to prevent leakage in either direction. I have had good luck with this
for several years now. I did at one time, with the original seal configuration, have water in
the oil. This is recognized by seeing a milky whitish emulsion in the oil reservoir in the
engine room. Since oil floats on water the oil level rises and the reservoir level goes up.
Now this is not one of my standard inspections in the engine room each day, note the oil
level and color in the reservoir.
Just something else to consider and confuse.

Regards, Gary Silver Amel SM2000 Hull # 335

-- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "" <leonorebt@...> wrote:

Hello,
Two seals face in toward the oil, that is the open end of the seal faces inward. The
third seal faces out to the sea. All should be packed with grease. When you remove the
old wear ring, brass, it could be reamed out slightly so it fits loosely over the schaft and
can be used to set the new seals so that they do not get bent on the installation process.
Hope this helps

Bill Rahmig SM72


----- Original Message -----
From: williammelbourne
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 2/20/2008 10:39:35 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement


We are about to replace prop shaft bearing and the three seals that
come with it. Two of these seals must face one way and the third seal
must face in the opposite direction to keep oil in and water out. The
problem is I don't know the proper orientation for each of these three
seals. Can anyone help with this one?
Thanks,

William Melbourne
SMM 306, Third Wish




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement

leonorebt@...
 

Hello,
Two seals face in toward the oil, that is the open end of the seal faces inward. The third seal faces out to the sea. All should be packed with grease. When you remove the old wear ring, brass, it could be reamed out slightly so it fits loosely over the schaft and can be used to set the new seals so that they do not get bent on the installation process.
Hope this helps

Bill Rahmig SM72

----- Original Message -----
From: williammelbourne
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 2/20/2008 10:39:35 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement


We are about to replace prop shaft bearing and the three seals that
come with it. Two of these seals must face one way and the third seal
must face in the opposite direction to keep oil in and water out. The
problem is I don't know the proper orientation for each of these three
seals. Can anyone help with this one?
Thanks,

William Melbourne
SMM 306, Third Wish


Prop Shaft bearing and Seals Replacement

williammelbourne <melbourne@...>
 

We are about to replace prop shaft bearing and the three seals that
come with it. Two of these seals must face one way and the third seal
must face in the opposite direction to keep oil in and water out. The
problem is I don't know the proper orientation for each of these three
seals. Can anyone help with this one?
Thanks,

William Melbourne
SMM 306, Third Wish


Valsat 03 GPS

tonic102004 <aebersoldp@...>
 

Hello all

My Valsat 03 GPS is 10 years old. I left the boat for 3 months and
since then the Valsat is not giving the position anymore! Has anyone
experienced the same?
Is it possible to make a reset?

Thanks for any feedback
Paul
SM 227


Hydronic Heating System

raquel0909 <raquel0909@...>
 

Hi All

We have a Sharki (1982 hull # 55) "Ray Ocean" in Kingston, ON. We are
planning to install a hydronic heating system to heat the boat, heat
our domestic hot water while at anchor and preheat our engine (4.108)
when required.

We would appreciate any input. What make and model were chosen and
why?. Are you pleased with the outcome.

We currently are waffling back and forth between a Webasto 2010 (45,000
btu/hr) the Hurricane SCH (25,000 btu/hr) and the Hurricane H2 (35,000
btu/hr).

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks,
Raquel, Hank and Ocean


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Cruising the South Pacific

Georges Pellegrini <dji314@...>
 

Hi John and Ann,
thanks for this nice and usefull article. I just wish to correct a
little mistake.
Bastille day is JULY 14th, not June.
Thanks again.
Georges Pellegrini

On Feb 19, 2008, at 5:15 AM, John and Anne on Bali Hai wrote:

This is the time of the year when people are preparing to cross the
Pacific planning to be in New Zealand by November to miss the cyclone
season further North so here are a few tips.Take some things that
remote islanders might be happy to receive.We were given six black
pearls by a pearl farmer in the Tuamotus. He only had one flipper but
it never occurred to us to give him ours, I wish we had given him a
pair of ours and indeed other things. We could have taken a few such
essential "luxuries". We were surprised to see that the shop on many
islands or atolls sold only the bare essentials such as tinned
meats,rice, sugar etc plus Pampers of which they had big stocks. This
puzzled us until we realised that they do not have enough fresh water
to wash the nappies that are, presumably, used at night. If you have
a good watermaker offer your hosts water. They may or may not need it
but remember that they have no rain for much of the year.
It may have changed but when we crossed nearly fifteen years ago a
visa to stop in the Galapagos took more than the eight months that we
allowed for. We were allowed to stay a week as we took the hint and
claimed that we had a serious problem as our alternator needed repair.
The man in charge there was a captain in the Equadorian navy and it
seems that this was a two year posting during which he may find ways
to increase his income. We wanted to stock up on fuel there but the
only way that we could was to buy it though the captain. We paid for
60 gallons which was delivered by the navy in an assortment of cans
etc. It was not only very dirty but it was not more than about 40
gallons which we could only ell by our dipstick as the cans were of
every size. I complained and the other 20 arrived without problems.
Gas was hard to buy in the Marquesas because the price is fixed by
the French government and does not allow the vendors ny profit. We
were able to top up our fuel direct from a supply ship which happened
to arrive whilst we were in Nuka Hiva.As a general rule of thumb it
is possible to stock up on food stuffs etc in the French islands as
the French have or had arrangements for flying in goodies from France
fairly frequently. Not cheap but frozen ready made meals were
excellent quality.
Papeete is a great place to resupply and is especially good to be at
on June 14 as this is Bastille Day (if I remember correctly) and
there was a military parade and many other diversions.
One thing not to be missed is the Festival of the South Pacific which
is an annual event which takes place in a different island or group
of islands each year. Many of the islands sent people to take part
showing facets of their own particular traditions from dancing,
singing, wood carving hut building etc.
American Samoa is a great place to have spares flown in from the
States as it is deemed part of continental USA and thus airmail is at
internal US rates. Specify priority airmail as otherwise your goods
may be offloaded in Hawiai if the plane is heavily loaded. Once off
loaded it may take ages to get on another plane! Deisel here was very
cheap but not as cheap as Venezuela.
Further west the fuel may come from Australia or Indonesian
refineries.I cannot remember which company uses the Australian
refined stuff but apparently it is much better refined and thus not
so hard on the engine.
Anchoring in atolls can be tricky as the depth may be sixty feet and
the bottom may have huge coral mushrooms which the Aussies call
bommies. You anchor with a lot of scope but the winds die out during
the night and your boat will drift around in circles until the trades
get going again next day thus the anchor chain may have been wound
around a bommy several times until there is no free scope, then if a
swell builds up the chain may break the anchor winch which would be a
disaster. The way to avoid this is to tie fenders every 20 feet or so
on the chain so that the chain does not lie on the bottom but will
sink at once if a breeze comes up. This is an old trick, it used to
be done with pieces of bamboo as floats pre plastic.Before we adopted
this technique I had to put down a second anchor so that we could let
out more chain on the main anchor and then scuba down to the bottom
and unwrap the chain from the stalk of the bommy.
Finally do not use the obvious buoys as waypoints and then put the
autopilot on track as this will mean that you will meet up with every
inter-island boat or ship which has used the same waypoints.

For those with bent anchors I think the SS ones may be made in house
by Amel because when we did our factory tour in 2000 I saw an older
man patiently funnelling lead shot into the pointed end and the hole
was then welded over.My SS one is now a garden ornament as we bought
a Beugal type one in galvanised steel in Turkey and we think it is
far superior. I think Amel have now adopted this type for the 54.

Good sailing, Anne and John SM 319


Cruising the South Pacific

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

This is the time of the year when people are preparing to cross the
Pacific planning to be in New Zealand by November to miss the cyclone
season further North so here are a few tips.Take some things that
remote islanders might be happy to receive.We were given six black
pearls by a pearl farmer in the Tuamotus. He only had one flipper but
it never occurred to us to give him ours, I wish we had given him a
pair of ours and indeed other things. We could have taken a few such
essential "luxuries". We were surprised to see that the shop on many
islands or atolls sold only the bare essentials such as tinned
meats,rice, sugar etc plus Pampers of which they had big stocks. This
puzzled us until we realised that they do not have enough fresh water
to wash the nappies that are, presumably, used at night. If you have
a good watermaker offer your hosts water. They may or may not need it
but remember that they have no rain for much of the year.
It may have changed but when we crossed nearly fifteen years ago a
visa to stop in the Galapagos took more than the eight months that we
allowed for. We were allowed to stay a week as we took the hint and
claimed that we had a serious problem as our alternator needed repair.
The man in charge there was a captain in the Equadorian navy and it
seems that this was a two year posting during which he may find ways
to increase his income. We wanted to stock up on fuel there but the
only way that we could was to buy it though the captain. We paid for
60 gallons which was delivered by the navy in an assortment of cans
etc. It was not only very dirty but it was not more than about 40
gallons which we could only ell by our dipstick as the cans were of
every size. I complained and the other 20 arrived without problems.
Gas was hard to buy in the Marquesas because the price is fixed by
the French government and does not allow the vendors ny profit. We
were able to top up our fuel direct from a supply ship which happened
to arrive whilst we were in Nuka Hiva.As a general rule of thumb it
is possible to stock up on food stuffs etc in the French islands as
the French have or had arrangements for flying in goodies from France
fairly frequently. Not cheap but frozen ready made meals were
excellent quality.
Papeete is a great place to resupply and is especially good to be at
on June 14 as this is Bastille Day (if I remember correctly) and
there was a military parade and many other diversions.
One thing not to be missed is the Festival of the South Pacific which
is an annual event which takes place in a different island or group
of islands each year. Many of the islands sent people to take part
showing facets of their own particular traditions from dancing,
singing, wood carving hut building etc.
American Samoa is a great place to have spares flown in from the
States as it is deemed part of continental USA and thus airmail is at
internal US rates. Specify priority airmail as otherwise your goods
may be offloaded in Hawiai if the plane is heavily loaded. Once off
loaded it may take ages to get on another plane! Deisel here was very
cheap but not as cheap as Venezuela.
Further west the fuel may come from Australia or Indonesian
refineries.I cannot remember which company uses the Australian
refined stuff but apparently it is much better refined and thus not
so hard on the engine.
Anchoring in atolls can be tricky as the depth may be sixty feet and
the bottom may have huge coral mushrooms which the Aussies call
bommies. You anchor with a lot of scope but the winds die out during
the night and your boat will drift around in circles until the trades
get going again next day thus the anchor chain may have been wound
around a bommy several times until there is no free scope, then if a
swell builds up the chain may break the anchor winch which would be a
disaster. The way to avoid this is to tie fenders every 20 feet or so
on the chain so that the chain does not lie on the bottom but will
sink at once if a breeze comes up. This is an old trick, it used to
be done with pieces of bamboo as floats pre plastic.Before we adopted
this technique I had to put down a second anchor so that we could let
out more chain on the main anchor and then scuba down to the bottom
and unwrap the chain from the stalk of the bommy.
Finally do not use the obvious buoys as waypoints and then put the
autopilot on track as this will mean that you will meet up with every
inter-island boat or ship which has used the same waypoints.

For those with bent anchors I think the SS ones may be made in house
by Amel because when we did our factory tour in 2000 I saw an older
man patiently funnelling lead shot into the pointed end and the hole
was then welded over.My SS one is now a garden ornament as we bought
a Beugal type one in galvanised steel in Turkey and we think it is
far superior. I think Amel have now adopted this type for the 54.

Good sailing, Anne and John SM 319


Re: Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Miles
Do you have the WASI anchor? Mine is not a WASI anchor, rather it is a
CQR like anchor made from polished stainless. I don't know the manufacturer.
The applicable metallurgical principles would cross over to almost
any 316 SS.

Gary

Miles wrote: ....."I would suggest that someone correspond directly with WASI in
Germany and then inform this group. WASI seems to be proud of their
metallurgy and products and should be able to tell us how best to deal with
this problem."


Re: Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

I also had my anchor shaft bend after I caught it under a rock. Amel in
Hyeres straightened it and I hope that it is not weakened. Given the
questions about the affect of bending and of welding on the underlying
strength, I would suggest that someone correspond directly with WASI in
Germany and then inform this group. WASI seems to be proud of their
metallurgy and products and should be able to tell us how best to deal with
this problem.



I am not volunteering to do this because I am on my boat in the Caribbean
and do not have good internet access.



Miles Bidwell s/y/ LADYBUG

SM 216


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Richard Wrote : "If you pre heat the SS that is going to be welded and the
"I" beam and let it cool slow you will HAVE issues. "

HAVE is my emphasis added.

Richard: Hi, is this correct or did you mean to say you would NOT have
issues (annealing like on copper or is it like heat treating on SS??)

Please verify that HAVE is correct.

Thanks for your reply, Gary Silver


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

If you pre heat the SS that is going to welded and the
"I" beam and let it cool slow you will have issues.
Be VERY SURE that the welder uses 316 SS rods which is
the same metal that anchor should have been made of..
remember that SS it tough. not hard, yes it does work
harden however it can take lots of heat but not a lot
of rubbing/work hardening.
good luck
Richard on Challenge in St Maartin SM 209
--- amelliahona <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi Murray:

Murray Seidel wrote: ".... then we welded top and
bottom SS plates to make a new I-beam on
top of the old and thicked the areas between the top
and bottom plates on both sides"

Murray, can you give more specifics about the
thickness of the material welded on as
doublers to the shank on the top and bottom of the I
beam cap plate and base plate? Also,
how far along the shank did you carry the doublers?
A photo would be helpful if you are
near the boat.

" Do I need to trash the anchor despite the welding?
Any thoughts? "

I am as worried about welding causing stress risers
as I am about work hardening of the
metal by bending it back into shape. Seems we need
a metallurgist to help us sort this
al out.

Thanks, Gary Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM2000
Hull # 335



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Murray:

Murray Seidel wrote: ".... then we welded top and bottom SS plates to make a new I-beam on
top of the old and thicked the areas between the top and bottom plates on both sides"

Murray, can you give more specifics about the thickness of the material welded on as
doublers to the shank on the top and bottom of the I beam cap plate and base plate? Also,
how far along the shank did you carry the doublers? A photo would be helpful if you are
near the boat.

" Do I need to trash the anchor despite the welding? Any thoughts? "

I am as worried about welding causing stress risers as I am about work hardening of the
metal by bending it back into shape. Seems we need a metallurgist to help us sort this
al out.

Thanks, Gary Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM2000 Hull # 335


Re: Painting deck stripes

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Caspar,

I posted the pictures of the deck stripe painting. Sorry my e-mail
link was not attached to the pictures.
As usual, Gary Silver has done an excellent job of explaining the
process. Thank you, Gary, and I'm glad you're happy with the results.
Caspar, if you have any questions, please post them, and I'm sure
you will get useful advice. As far as I know, about a dozen owners
have painted the deck stipes, all using the same basic approach.

Roy on Excalibur, SM #195


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend

Dr. Seidel <mseidel@...>
 

I read with interest the anchor shank bending. SM349 's shank bent 90 degrees this summer anchored in four foot plus seas starting a race for our organization. It took a 30 ton press to straighten it, then we welded top and bottom SS plates to make a new I-beam on top of the old and thicked the areas between the top and bottom plates on both sides. I been sailing for 40 myears and never seen that happen. Makes you wonder about the anchor strength?. Do I need to trash the anchor despite the welding? Any thoughts?
Sundance sm 349 Murray Seidel.

----- Original Message -----
From: dlm48@aol.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Stainless Steel Anchor Shank Bend



YEP WE managed that on Bill and Judy's SM200 just off the entrance to the
Moorings base in Road Town Tortola - they had it straightened no problem - i am
sure Judy or Bill will post and give you chapter and verse on the repair. It
would appear to my engineering brain that the shank need to be upsized
considerably as it cant handle the load that the flukes can generate with an SM200
leaping about in a boisterous anchorage

regards

David

In a message dated 14/02/2008 15:03:27 GMT Standard Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:

Hi Folks:

On a recent bit of sailing in Barbuda, West Indies, we were anchored
overnight in a bit of a
windy anchorage (about 25 knots, gusts to 30 knots). We were anchored in a
sand bottom as
far as we know and the boat would sail about somewhat as is customary. We
had a nylon
anchor snubber in place. Upon weighing anchor (the anchor broke out with the
normal
amount of resistance) we found the bent anchor shank depicted in the photo
that I have
posted in the photo's section.

Has anybody else had this problem? I have delivered the anchor to a shop in
Antigua that
says they can straighten the shank in their hydraulic press. I am concerned
about work
hardening of the metal from the bending forces. Anybody have thoughts about
the
advisability of straightening the shaft. The shank is welded in place so
replacement would be
a major undertaking. There is no deformation of the blade of the anchor.

Regards, Gary Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM2000 Hull # 335