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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fwd: Excessive wear of 24V Alternator Belt

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

David, as a short term fix try running the gen set to
top off the batteries BEFORE you start the main
engine. And/Or use some belt dressing on the belt to
stop it from slipping. Also check to see if the belt
comes loose when under load.
Good luck
Richard on sm 209
--- David Miller <windmillerii@yahoo.com> wrote:




I have an Amel 54 hull # 25 WINDMILLER II Located in
Fethiye.(Turkey)
The 24V alternator 170 amps is on the port side of
the Volvo
The belts are getting warn fast and creating a lot
of thick black dust
in the engine room.
I understand that Amel solved this problem from boat
# 39 by putting a
different alternator with thicker belt on starboard
side of the Volvo.
They are now recommending me, to put a smaller 24V
Mastervolt 110 amp
Alternator. They tell me one boat has made this
change but results
still unknown. If the boat that made this change or
if there is any
one out there with a similar problem, please advise
what solution has
been adopted ?
P.S. Amel agree this problem is under warranty.

THANKS
David Miller
millerwind@hotmail.com



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Richard and Joan

eric freedman
 

BURRRR

I am already there. When will you arrive and where do you expect to stay. I
am at the Simpson bay marina.

The reason I asked is that I had dinner with my usual crew in New York City
last night. One of my crew had an OPO posting which I assumed was yours
looking for crew.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Richard and Joan



Yes, we will depart in the end of Jan. for St. Martin.
Want to come along?
Richard and Joan

--- eric <kimberlite@optonlin <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> e.net>
wrote:

Richard and Joan,

are you planning on leaving for the Caribbean later
this January?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Piller
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@ <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] gasoline smell



When we have to store a fuel tank of any kind in the
aft locker we put in a heavy plastic the bag and
wire
tie it. That keeps the oders from the rest of the
boat.

We used C-map for eletronic charts in the Med. they
worked very well.. We also made good use of the
Imray
Almanac for the Med. it cost a bit but has all the
ports.

The I-Com 802 with the Pactor III is about as good
as
it get for HF/SSB.

We found that we got good reception on the SSB in
the
Med at most times of the day.

Good luck. Richard and Joan SM 209
In Annapolis
--- dr_hofschulte <Dr.Hofschulte@
<mailto:Dr.Hofschulte%40t-online.de>
t-online.de> wrote:

I mean gasoline smell from the gasoline for the
outboarder.
I think there is only one locker which has no
connection to the inside
rooms, this is the locker for the life-raft.This
locker is not
suitably for a gasoline tank to stow away. For the
other lockers it is
neccessary to have the connection to close them
from
inside.
So I think there is no real solution. We have to
put
the tanks outside.

There is also annother question: may be this year
or
latest next year
we want to go to the mediterranean eastern part,
turkey.
We have windows XP on board, what do you think is
now the best electronic
chart programm and what are the best charts? May
be
we will go after
the mediterranean to the caribic.
What SSB is recommended to buy, and which kind of
antenna? To send and
to receive e-mails via SSB? Pactor ?
I have got the e-mails the last four years and it
was very interesting
for me to read all the messages. Last year we
bought
the three years
old Sm in the baltic and we are happy with our
Johanna-Amalthea.
Thanks alot for your answers.It helps realy much.



Hans Germany baltic sea
Johanna-Amalthea Sm # 436


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Richard and Joan

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Yes, we will depart in the end of Jan. for St. Martin.
Want to come along?
Richard and Joan

--- eric <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

Richard and Joan,

are you planning on leaving for the Caribbean later
this January?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Piller
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] gasoline smell



When we have to store a fuel tank of any kind in the
aft locker we put in a heavy plastic the bag and
wire
tie it. That keeps the oders from the rest of the
boat.

We used C-map for eletronic charts in the Med. they
worked very well.. We also made good use of the
Imray
Almanac for the Med. it cost a bit but has all the
ports.

The I-Com 802 with the Pactor III is about as good
as
it get for HF/SSB.

We found that we got good reception on the SSB in
the
Med at most times of the day.

Good luck. Richard and Joan SM 209
In Annapolis
--- dr_hofschulte <Dr.Hofschulte@
<mailto:Dr.Hofschulte%40t-online.de>
t-online.de> wrote:

I mean gasoline smell from the gasoline for the
outboarder.
I think there is only one locker which has no
connection to the inside
rooms, this is the locker for the life-raft.This
locker is not
suitably for a gasoline tank to stow away. For the
other lockers it is
neccessary to have the connection to close them
from
inside.
So I think there is no real solution. We have to
put
the tanks outside.

There is also annother question: may be this year
or
latest next year
we want to go to the mediterranean eastern part,
turkey.
We have windows XP on board, what do you think is
now the best electronic
chart programm and what are the best charts? May
be
we will go after
the mediterranean to the caribic.
What SSB is recommended to buy, and which kind of
antenna? To send and
to receive e-mails via SSB? Pactor ?
I have got the e-mails the last four years and it
was very interesting
for me to read all the messages. Last year we
bought
the three years
old Sm in the baltic and we are happy with our
Johanna-Amalthea.
Thanks alot for your answers.It helps realy much.



Hans Germany baltic sea
Johanna-Amalthea Sm # 436


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Excessive wear of 24V Alternator Belt

David Miller <windmillerii@...>
 

I have an Amel 54 hull # 25 WINDMILLER II Located in Fethiye.(Turkey)
The 24V alternator 170 amps is on the port side of the Volvo
The belts are getting warn fast and creating a lot of thick black dust
in the engine room.
I understand that Amel solved this problem from boat # 39 by putting a
different alternator with thicker belt on starboard side of the Volvo.
They are now recommending me, to put a smaller 24V Mastervolt 110 amp
Alternator. They tell me one boat has made this change but results
still unknown. If the boat that made this change or if there is any
one out there with a similar problem, please advise what solution has
been adopted ?
P.S. Amel agree this problem is under warranty.

THANKS
David Miller
millerwind@hotmail.com



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Excessive wear of 24V Alternator Belt

David Miller <windmillerii@...>
 

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Richard and Joan

eric freedman
 

Richard and Joan,

are you planning on leaving for the Caribbean later this January?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Piller
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 8:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] gasoline smell



When we have to store a fuel tank of any kind in the
aft locker we put in a heavy plastic the bag and wire
tie it. That keeps the oders from the rest of the
boat.

We used C-map for eletronic charts in the Med. they
worked very well.. We also made good use of the Imray
Almanac for the Med. it cost a bit but has all the
ports.

The I-Com 802 with the Pactor III is about as good as
it get for HF/SSB.

We found that we got good reception on the SSB in the
Med at most times of the day.

Good luck. Richard and Joan SM 209
In Annapolis
--- dr_hofschulte <Dr.Hofschulte@ <mailto:Dr.Hofschulte%40t-online.de>
t-online.de> wrote:

I mean gasoline smell from the gasoline for the
outboarder.
I think there is only one locker which has no
connection to the inside
rooms, this is the locker for the life-raft.This
locker is not
suitably for a gasoline tank to stow away. For the
other lockers it is
neccessary to have the connection to close them from
inside.
So I think there is no real solution. We have to put
the tanks outside.

There is also annother question: may be this year or
latest next year
we want to go to the mediterranean eastern part,
turkey.
We have windows XP on board, what do you think is
now the best electronic
chart programm and what are the best charts? May be
we will go after
the mediterranean to the caribic.
What SSB is recommended to buy, and which kind of
antenna? To send and
to receive e-mails via SSB? Pactor ?
I have got the e-mails the last four years and it
was very interesting
for me to read all the messages. Last year we bought
the three years
old Sm in the baltic and we are happy with our
Johanna-Amalthea.
Thanks alot for your answers.It helps realy much.



Hans Germany baltic sea
Johanna-Amalthea Sm # 436


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Re: gasoline smell

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Hans:

I have often heard of the dangers of storing gasoline below decks and have
seem pictures of boat fires and explosions from doing do. My training was
to always stow gasoline above decks, either in jerry cans (now mostly plastic)
or in the outboard's fuel tank, but always lashed to boards afixed to the the
lifeline stanchions. We have found that the red colored plastic jerry cans
deteriorate quickly in the Caribbean sun and have sewn Sunbrella covers for
them for protection. We do stow our 15 hp Honda four stroke outboard
in the aft locker during offshore passages and when in hurricane storage
but disconnect the fuel line from it before doing so. We have never detected
gasoline smell from the small amount of gas left in the engine as it is sealed
within the lines/filter,carb bowl of the engine.

I find that I can coil the outboard's fuel line and suspend it it the well at the
base of the mizzen mast where the lines feed. This keeps it out of the sun
and also allows it to ventilate properly to avoid smell and/or explosion.
Like others have stated, I stow the jerry cans and fuel tank lashed to/and
under the helm seat during hurricane storage.

Gary
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335 Lying Antigua


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] gasoline smell

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

When we have to store a fuel tank of any kind in the
aft locker we put in a heavy plastic the bag and wire
tie it. That keeps the oders from the rest of the
boat.

We used C-map for eletronic charts in the Med. they
worked very well.. We also made good use of the Imray
Almanac for the Med. it cost a bit but has all the
ports.

The I-Com 802 with the Pactor III is about as good as
it get for HF/SSB.

We found that we got good reception on the SSB in the
Med at most times of the day.

Good luck. Richard and Joan SM 209
In Annapolis
--- dr_hofschulte <Dr.Hofschulte@t-online.de> wrote:

I mean gasoline smell from the gasoline for the
outboarder.
I think there is only one locker which has no
connection to the inside
rooms, this is the locker for the life-raft.This
locker is not
suitably for a gasoline tank to stow away. For the
other lockers it is
neccessary to have the connection to close them from
inside.
So I think there is no real solution. We have to put
the tanks outside.

There is also annother question: may be this year or
latest next year
we want to go to the mediterranean eastern part,
turkey.
We have windows XP on board, what do you think is
now the best electronic
chart programm and what are the best charts? May be
we will go after
the mediterranean to the caribic.
What SSB is recommended to buy, and which kind of
antenna? To send and
to receive e-mails via SSB? Pactor ?
I have got the e-mails the last four years and it
was very interesting
for me to read all the messages. Last year we bought
the three years
old Sm in the baltic and we are happy with our
Johanna-Amalthea.
Thanks alot for your answers.It helps realy much.



Hans Germany baltic sea
Johanna-Amalthea Sm # 436




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gasoline smell

dr_hofschulte
 

I mean gasoline smell from the gasoline for the outboarder.
I think there is only one locker which has no connection to the inside
rooms, this is the locker for the life-raft.This locker is not
suitably for a gasoline tank to stow away. For the other lockers it is
neccessary to have the connection to close them from inside.
So I think there is no real solution. We have to put the tanks outside.

There is also annother question: may be this year or latest next year
we want to go to the mediterranean eastern part, turkey.
We have windows XP on board, what do you think is now the best electronic
chart programm and what are the best charts? May be we will go after
the mediterranean to the caribic.
What SSB is recommended to buy, and which kind of antenna? To send and
to receive e-mails via SSB? Pactor ?
I have got the e-mails the last four years and it was very interesting
for me to read all the messages. Last year we bought the three years
old Sm in the baltic and we are happy with our Johanna-Amalthea.
Thanks alot for your answers.It helps realy much.



Hans Germany baltic sea
Johanna-Amalthea Sm # 436


Re: gasoline smell

edmund_steele
 

Do you mean diesel smell? We carry spare diesel in plastic jerry jugs
in the stern locker but as long as the caps are screwed down tight
there is no leakage from these.

Our problem gasoline smell is usually from the outboard tank and it's
quick disconnect hose. For safety reasons we usually store it above
deck under the captain's chair in the cockpit or if we are carrying an
inflated dinghy across the mizzen deck, we just set the outboard's tank
inside the dinghy.

We have noticed a persistent diesel smell when sailing in a choppy sea
with the wind blowing in certain directions. Each time this has
happened, I have checked the stern locker and the engine room for leaks
and found none. The culprit is the diesel tank vent hose that produces
fumes when the contents of the tank are being slopped around.

Ed
SV Doodlebug SM#331


Re: gasoline smell

patrick.naegels <patrick.naegels@...>
 

No way, the best place is on the deck. We put a plank on each board
of the boat where we fasten 5 jerrycans. Total 200 litres available.
Enough to sail 900 miles at 1600 R/m on flat sea.

Patrick (SM2K - Caramel - hull #329)

°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "dr_hofschulte"
<Dr.Hofschulte@...> wrote:

we identified our plastic jerry cans to be the real cause for
permanent gasoline smell on board of our AMEL Super Maramu 2004. We
finally decided to tie them on deck. There, however, they are
exposed
to all kinds of environmental stresses and are not handsome. Is
there
anyone in our Amel community, who could advise us, where and how we
could store them below deck without running again into the same
smell
problem?"

Best regards and a happy New Year for all of you

Hans-Joachim Hofschulte Germany baltic sea
Sm # 436


gasoline smell

dr_hofschulte
 

we identified our plastic jerry cans to be the real cause for
permanent gasoline smell on board of our AMEL Super Maramu 2004. We
finally decided to tie them on deck. There, however, they are exposed
to all kinds of environmental stresses and are not handsome. Is there
anyone in our Amel community, who could advise us, where and how we
could store them below deck without running again into the same smell
problem?"

Best regards and a happy New Year for all of you

Hans-Joachim Hofschulte Germany baltic sea
Sm # 436


Re: 110 volts from the SM2 Onan genset

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Bill:

See the spec sheet I just uploaded to the files section and see if that
helps. Yours is probably the same as mine (-Onan Model # 7MDKAL-431 with
Kubota Model V1505EBG 1.5 liter YKBXLD1.5 BCC 164 KW 22 hp)
The spec sheet shows it is a dual voltage genset. Perhaps there are
two voltage outputs on a panel somewhere.

Gary

- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "svbebe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:


Does anyone know if the SM2 7.5kw Onan genset will deliver 110 volts
50hz at the same time as 230 volts 50hz? I have a shop vac and
buffer/sander that I would like to power from the genset without a
step-down transformer.

Best,


Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
currently in Panama
photos and logs at www.svbebe.com


New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.

File : /Onan Genset Information/Onan Spec Sheet.pdf
Uploaded by : amelliahona
Description :

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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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Regards,

amelliahona


110 volts from the SM2 Onan genset

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Does anyone know if the SM2 7.5kw Onan genset will deliver 110 volts
50hz at the same time as 230 volts 50hz? I have a shop vac and
buffer/sander that I would like to power from the genset without a
step-down transformer.

Best,


Bill Rouse
s/v BeBe SM2 #387
currently in Panama
photos and logs at www.svbebe.com


New to group

travelviaoceans <travelviaoceans@...>
 

Hello to all,

I am new to this group and am searching for some info on later model
Amels, 1995 and up.
I am looking for a new cruising/live aboard boat. My sailing experience
is from a Pearson Commander in the early 70's to an Andrews70 that I
just sold.
I am very impressed with the Amels and was wondering if anyone had some
info as to boat speed.
Are these boats capable of 200 miles a day under normal cruising? Are
there any inherent problems offshore with the boats, things that should
be addressed or rreplaced prior to taking off.
The propulsion systems seems to transfer a lot of power through
different angles, does this have it's own set of problems.
Thanking you all in advance for reading this and to those that will
take the time to respond.
Happy New Year to all.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: removing Freezer/Refrig unit under bench seat in salon

leonorebt@...
 

JP, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,

Thank you for your thoughts. I figured it out. There are 6 or so screws accessable from removing the floor board under the table and three nut and bolts at the far port side. The trouble maker is at the bottom starboard aft corner where there is a long screw through the freezer framework into the passageway floorboard. It is blocked from unscrewing by a two screw block of wood in front of the head. You have to get at it from the storage space under the passageway floor boards. You have to be plastic man to unscrew the blocking screws from above by reaching them from below. Once the blocking block is out you can access the long screw facing starboard from the same location. I could not remove but one screw because my hands were too big and rubbed against the insulation of the freezer. I had a small fellow reach up and remove the other two screws and then the whole freezer unit with the compressor just lifted out very easily. Of course the electrical connections had to be removed which was easy. Hope this helps those with same goal of accessing the third section of the water tank.

Greetings to all, Bill Rahmig SM72, Leonore of Sark

----- Original Message -----
From: galacsea2000
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 12/25/2007 9:10:28 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: removing Freezer/Refrig unit under bench seat in salon


I do not have an answer for you but it seems to me that Joel Potter (Amel USA) or Olivier
Beaute (Amel Fr) should be able to address your question. They can be reached as follows:
Olivier : amel(at)amel.fr Subject: Message for O.Beaute (SAV)
Joel: jfpottercys@worldnet.att.net
Hope they will be helpful. Please share your findings with the group.
Good luck and merry xmas
JP


Re: removing Freezer/Refrig unit under bench seat in salon

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

I do not have an answer for you but it seems to me that Joel Potter (Amel USA) or Olivier
Beaute (Amel Fr) should be able to address your question. They can be reached as follows:
Olivier : amel(at)amel.fr Subject: Message for O.Beaute (SAV)
Joel: jfpottercys@worldnet.att.net
Hope they will be helpful. Please share your findings with the group.
Good luck and merry xmas
JP


Expansion tanks

John and Anne on Bali Hai <annejohn@...>
 

The tank behind the genset started leaking after about two years. I
made a temporary repair with aradite and bought an identical new one
for £11stg (US$20) at a shop supplying irrigation equipment for farmers
here in Malta. I believe the early failure was due to electrolysis
between the steel tank and the copper T connecting it to the system.I
relaced it with plastic and no further problems.

Happy Christmas, Anne and John, SM 319


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hot water expansion tank, Sulajon

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi John You dont say what number your SM is. Ours ( no 302) has two expansion tanks, one on the pump itself and a separate one. Our separate one developed a hole ( electrolysis?) after about 4 years. I should have replaced it with a plastic version but the metal replacement is showing no signs of problems at the moment.
My guess is that you can run the pump without the expansion tank though it will cycle on and off more .
Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Uruguay

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