Re: Super Maramu for Sale in Australia
koenvelleman <no_reply@...>
Hi Robert,
Flash IV is Belgium registred. She is a Super Maramu built in 1990. I have updated her with all the important changes that Amel has done trough the years. She has the new propulsing sytem fitted by Amel. Also fitted by Amel is the new triple groove furling system, new mainsail and gib furling gearbox and moters. I changed the Autohelm pilot to a Brookes@Gatehouse pilot. Kept the Autohelm as back-up. I also updated the electrical charging and battery system to the new standards. Renewed the ceiling lining, wich was foam backed and came loose (a major problem with the Amels ) with the new felt backed stuff) The Genoa is 3 years old and the main has been renewed this year. She has full Brookes@Gatehouse instruments with 2 extra repeaters. Apart from the standard equipment she has an extra small gimballed watch radar, a 700W full sine-wave 220V converter for the breadmaker, SSB, davids, musk. screens, inmarsat-C, extra forward looking depth sounder, electric front toilet, new italian cooking stove with electric oven, new fridge and water cooled freezer system (no more R- 12 gas), airco in the aft cabin. She has an alternator fitted to the propeller wich gives all the needed electricity while cruising even for the breadmaker. She got a 50l/h watermaker. The genset has been overhauled and fitted with a fresh water cooling system 3 yrs ago. I always did an agressive preventive maintenance and all the sytems are working and are in good condition. Price: 300.000 Euro --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Vivian, Robert & Aron Lewin" <lewin@b...> wrote: Hello... Pls let me have some details ...Age ...equipment Etc.. Iam in Sydney on 02 93371150Service.
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Varnishing
stargazer41amel <no_reply@...>
Has anyone attempted to varnish over or repair the original factory
applied varnish? I understand from the Amel factory that the varnish is a sprayed 2 part polyurethane finish. It is very hard finish and has held up well for the 16 year old vessel we have. But there are areas that need repairing and I am really concerned how difficult it is to deal with the existing finish. I was able to refinish the floors, exterior trims and interior steps beautifully but they had a different varnish finish. Any knowledgable help in this area will be greatly appreciated. Delores Carter
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu for Sale in Australia
Vivian, Robert & Aron Lewin <lewin@...>
Hello... Pls let me have some details ...Age ...equipment Etc.. I am in
Sydney on 02 93371150 Robert. On Sunday, September 21, 2003, at 12:26 AM, koenvelleman wrote: My Super Maramu Flash IV is now for sale<image.tiff>
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Super Maramu for Sale in Australia
koenvelleman <no_reply@...>
My Super Maramu Flash IV is now for sale
She is on the hardstand in Bundaberg QLD and in perfect condition.
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Re: Zeise diesel generator
koenvelleman <no_reply@...>
Hi Richard,
The water "sensor" in the Zeisse capsule is a simple double wire with a screw connector at the end. The foam in the container can get a bit oily and wet and the screw connector rusts away. This connector must be drifting somewhere under the genset, just try to find it, put a new screw connector on and things should be OK. The other main problem with the Zeisse is the sea water pump, driven by a small belt wich slips easely. Normaly Farryman puts the pump directly on the cranckshaft, this works fine. I also changed the thermostat to an 85°C and changed the cooling to fresh water cooling and the Genset runs very smooth now. Good Luck ! Koen Flash IV S/M 17 --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "closereach" <closereach@y...> wrote: I have a Zeise installed in my Super Maramu. The control panel hasthe 'capsule'. Does anyone know where or what this 'capsule' is, and how to remove
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
amelforme
Hi Vito,
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I NEVER advocated a loose rig. It's dangerous to have loose rigging on an AMEL. Most riggers/yards loosen the rigging because most boats are tuned loose because they flex. Amels are tuned very tight because they don't flex. You shouldn't have much sag in the headstay and very little, if any, real slop in the lazy side shourds. TIGHT IS RIGHT. NEVER LOOSE. Hope this helps. Joel SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM #400 "MARY BROWN"
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From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your reason for this? Thanks Vito Ciaravino asm283 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
amelforme
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From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your reason for this? Thanks Vito Ciaravino asm283 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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heaving to
Bill & Sara Atz <WCZ4455@...>
Occasionally we arrive before daylight after a long passage. I
asked Amel a few years ago how to "heave to" in the Super Maramu, and they said to point just slightly off the wind and then run the engine at low rpm. Is there a better way, without the engine? Bill on Lady Sadie
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
Hi Joel,
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Does this apply also to the backstays of the mizen mast? Mine was quite loose and as far as I understand there are screws that prevent the rig to get loose. Regards Dimitris Krassopoulos Mobile GSM: +306944302318 Email: dkra@almalibre.gr <mailto:dkra@almalibre.gr> Web: www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr/>
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From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@att.net] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 1:11 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning Hi Vito, I NEVER advocated a loose rig. It's dangerous to have loose rigging on an AMEL. Most riggers/yards loosen the rigging because most boats are tuned loose because they flex. Amels are tuned very tight because they don't flex. You shouldn't have much sag in the headstay and very little, if any, real slop in the lazy side shourds. TIGHT IS RIGHT. NEVER LOOSE. Hope this helps. Joel SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM #400 "MARY BROWN" -----Original Message----- From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your reason for this? Thanks Vito Ciaravino asm283 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050657 92:HM/A=1706996/R=0/SIG=11p5b9ris/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3050 9&media=atkins> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=:HM/A=1706996/rand=880926460> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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Rig tuning
asm283 <no_reply@...>
I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your reason for this? Thanks Vito Ciaravino asm283
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pointing ability of Super Maramu
Krassopoulos Dimitris <dkra@...>
HELLO,
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It is very interesting to read all these mails. My comment is that the SM2000 is a superb boat for cruising and in cruising mode it outperforms many cruisers/racers. My example is our recent common cruising with a superb cruiser/racer from Denmark the X-562 (56 feet). I was sailing with my wife and children the other boat had a crew of 3 sailors. We were able to arrive always first to our end destination because we were able to start sailing 15 minutes before they were and we were able to reef online as we call it. When the wind changed we wre able to hoist our mizzen staysail and we were again faster although they were trying to hoist a gennaker. So the boat is designed for cruising and it is fast, safe and easy to handle what are we looking more than that. Dimitris SM 2000 "Alma Libre" www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr>
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From: Horst Pause [mailto:horst@dpnsoftware.com] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:47 PM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pointing ability of Super Maramu Hello All, I have read the various messages about the pointing ability of your boats, saw, to my horror, the suggestion to have an inside track fitted. Please don't - the Amel boats are the only ones where one can walk around on the deck without having to wear shoes with steel caps! Also, it must have occurred to you that the (flatter) in-mast mainsail may have some influence on the drive of the boat when she's pointing high. I have only compared this on two Maramus, one with furling, the other with conventional main - the difference was just under 5 degrees (they both had reasonably new foresails). Anyway, a ketch is not supposed to win races round the cans. Horst ' ' Hi David ' ' I agree with everyone about the pointing ability of the SM. On my ' boat with a new 140 headsail by super sailmakers I am seeing about 40 ' dg apparent. This weekend I came in 2nd in one of the local races. My ' main competition were a Cardinal 46, J35 and a Benetau 42s7. Boats ' known for their performance characteristics. In winds of 25 to 30 ' knots I held my own against these boats to windward and nailed them ' off the wind. Most of the other boats including a J35 were nowere ' close. Any pointing ability that I gave up to my competition was more ' than made up to the ability of the SM to stand up to a breeze and its ' pure speed. ' --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "davidcrisp" <david@f...> ' wrote: ' > Hi All, ' > ' > How close hauled should a Super Maramu sail? The best I can do is ' > 45deg apparent, which basically means going to windward is very ' slow ' > and frustrating. In calm seas I can pinch up to maybe 40deg ' > sometimes but speed suffers badly and I usually end up with an ' > accidental tack. Am suspecting (hoping) I have a problem. Having ' > raced a lot I believe I know how to trim sails and I have a new ' > genoa. ' > ' > So is 45deg apprent normal? If not anyone ahve any suggestions as ' to ' > my problem? ' > ' > Regards ' > David ' > Gallant of Fowey ' ' ' To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ' amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ' ' ' ' Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://rd.yahoo.com/M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17050657 92:HM/A=1706996/R=0/SIG=11p5b9ris/*http://www.ediets.com/start.cfm?code=3050 9&media=atkins> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=194081.3897168.5135684.1261774/D=egroupmai l/S=:HM/A=1706996/rand=250236746> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Pointing ability of Super Maramu
Horst Pause <horst@...>
Hello All,
I have read the various messages about the pointing ability of your boats, saw, to my horror, the suggestion to have an inside track fitted. Please don't - the Amel boats are the only ones where one can walk around on the deck without having to wear shoes with steel caps! Also, it must have occurred to you that the (flatter) in-mast mainsail may have some influence on the drive of the boat when she's pointing high. I have only compared this on two Maramus, one with furling, the other with conventional main - the difference was just under 5 degrees (they both had reasonably new foresails). Anyway, a ketch is not supposed to win races round the cans. Horst ' ' Hi David ' ' I agree with everyone about the pointing ability of the SM. On my ' boat with a new 140 headsail by super sailmakers I am seeing about 40 ' dg apparent. This weekend I came in 2nd in one of the local races. My ' main competition were a Cardinal 46, J35 and a Benetau 42s7. Boats ' known for their performance characteristics. In winds of 25 to 30 ' knots I held my own against these boats to windward and nailed them ' off the wind. Most of the other boats including a J35 were nowere ' close. Any pointing ability that I gave up to my competition was more ' than made up to the ability of the SM to stand up to a breeze and its ' pure speed. ' --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "davidcrisp" <david@f...> ' wrote: ' > Hi All, ' > ' > How close hauled should a Super Maramu sail? The best I can do is ' > 45deg apparent, which basically means going to windward is very ' slow ' > and frustrating. In calm seas I can pinch up to maybe 40deg ' > sometimes but speed suffers badly and I usually end up with an ' > accidental tack. Am suspecting (hoping) I have a problem. Having ' > raced a lot I believe I know how to trim sails and I have a new ' > genoa. ' > ' > So is 45deg apprent normal? If not anyone ahve any suggestions as ' to ' > my problem? ' > ' > Regards ' > David ' > Gallant of Fowey ' ' ' To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ' amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ' ' ' ' Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu
Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
Hi David,
Full water tank helps the boat to weather (stands up better, weight is down low) 100' of chain is like having a fat boy on your bow pulpit and probably worth about 2 degrees. Really. If the keel has any growth, ANY, it stalls early. The reason weight forward is bad is because it increases the polar moment of inertia. Makes the bow go up and down more and a bit more side to side which interrupts the flow, increases drag, and degrades your pace. Hope this helps. Joel F. Potter - SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM # 400 "MARY BROWN"
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Re: Pointing ability of Super Maramu
asm283 <no_reply@...>
Hi David
I agree with everyone about the pointing ability of the SM. On my boat with a new 140 headsail by super sailmakers I am seeing about 40 dg apparent. This weekend I came in 2nd in one of the local races. My main competition were a Cardinal 46, J35 and a Benetau 42s7. Boats known for their performance characteristics. In winds of 25 to 30 knots I held my own against these boats to windward and nailed them off the wind. Most of the other boats including a J35 were nowere close. Any pointing ability that I gave up to my competition was more than made up to the ability of the SM to stand up to a breeze and its pure speed. --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "davidcrisp" <david@f...> wrote: Hi All,slow and frustrating. In calm seas I can pinch up to maybe 40degto my problem?
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu
David Crisp
Claude,
I concur, the inner headstay is too much hassle and I would be conncerned to make a modification to a proven design. Those guys in Rochelle have got more things right than I have seen on any other boat. I'll go for the idyllic reaches. Are you out in the Caribbean, that's our domain at the moment, would be nice to cross tracks one day hsould the wind blow the right way. David --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Claude Roessiger <nearlynothing@y...> wrote: Dear David,
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu
David Crisp
Hi Joel,
Thanks for the feedback. I was at the Southampton boatshow yesterday and the Amel rep talked of 35deg or even less as being normal with the La Rochelle demo boat he sails. When I apply your comments to his claim it now makes sense - an empty boat, new sails. Darn it I had hopes of going to windward better!! I think 45deg is the reality for most of us in cruising mode. I don't believe we have a particularly heavily loaded boat (famous last words with all that storage maybe I deceive myself?!) and I have always been very careful to keep weight out of the bows - most lockers empty or light stuff. That said I have maybe sacrificed that weight consciousness with 100' extra chain. My genoa is a brand new Doyle 115% which I had made specifically for the Caribbean trades. From day one we were still stuck in the 43- 45deg range (fully unfurled). Being technically minded what puzzles me is how weight effects pointing ability. I had always assumed the problem was fundementally the wide sheeting angle. As they always say boats are about compromises and the Amel is a very very good one. That said I'll be sad to sell Gallant when we return to the UK, but for sailing around Europe in our variable winds one needs good windward ability. Again thanks for your usual precise advice. I will take a hard look at our weight when we get back aboard and definately have a campaign to shift things aft. Maybe keeping the water tanks half empty will also help - 500l water is a lot of weight. Best regards David --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel F. Potter" <jfpottercys@w...> wrote: Hello David,concentration and 40 degrees is easy. 45 degrees can be counted on in all but the worseoriginal, I'll bet they have deteriorated more than you imagine. Weight plays animportant part of the equation as most Amels are too front heavy when loadedfor cruising. Get weight out of the bow. A clean bottom and anundamaged leading edge to the keel are obvious further considerations.degrees in flat water and 38 degrees is easy enough for the pilot to managewhen steering to the wind instrument. Watch the weight! It's easy toaccumulate lotsa stuff!
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu
Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
Hello David,
Flat water, 34-36 degrees apparent is achievable with concentration and 40 degrees is easy. 45 degrees can be counted on in all but the worse wind/wave conditions with an unfurled jib. If your sails are original, I'll bet they have deteriorated more than you imagine. Weight plays an important part of the equation as most Amels are too front heavy when loaded for cruising. Get weight out of the bow. A clean bottom and an undamaged leading edge to the keel are obvious further considerations. My new boat with new sails and relatively empty will go to 33 degrees in flat water and 38 degrees is easy enough for the pilot to manage when steering to the wind instrument. Watch the weight! It's easy to accumulate lotsa stuff! Hope this helps. Joel F. Potter, Super Maramu Millennium # 400 ( MARY BROWN)
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Pointing ability of Super Maramu
Claude Roessiger <nearlynothing@...>
Dear David,
Basically the SM doesn't do well closer than 45 wind apparent. The sheeting angle is surely a major factor. It is a hallmark of Amel boats; they are built to cruise, for the open sea, where sailing close hauled for any period of time isn't wonderful in any case. This said, it is an issue, and one can only hope that in a future boat Amel will improve upwind performance. I have sometimes wondered if fitting an inboard track and combining this with a smaller headsail might not help, but I have concluded that it's more bother than it's worth. If you are really adamant about gaining another 5 degrees upwind, I suspect a headsail with a very modern construction might achieve that. Maybe someone has tried? Basically, think in terms of idyllic reaches under the stars of tropical skies.... Claude Roessiger __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
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Pointing ability of Super Maramu
David Crisp
Hi All,
How close hauled should a Super Maramu sail? The best I can do is 45deg apparent, which basically means going to windward is very slow and frustrating. In calm seas I can pinch up to maybe 40deg sometimes but speed suffers badly and I usually end up with an accidental tack. Am suspecting (hoping) I have a problem. Having raced a lot I believe I know how to trim sails and I have a new genoa. So is 45deg apprent normal? If not anyone ahve any suggestions as to my problem? Regards David Gallant of Fowey
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Re: LOOKING FOR A NECO 692 AUTOPILOT CONTROL UNIT
I have posted a photo of the unit on the PHOTO section of the group.
Please have a look and tell me if you recognize the unit. There is also a metal label on the back identifying the unit. Alex Paquin --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite1212 <no_reply@y...> wrote: Hi do you have a picture of the unit that you are looking for?
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