Re: YANMAR ENGINE PROBLEMS

We are also having problems with shutting down our Yanmar (4JH3-HTE), but no
starting problems. I had a technician look at it today, and he believes that
the gold colored shutoff relay (solenoid?) located on the port side of the
engine was getting stuck. We added some lubrication, and it seems like the
problem is solved. However, I wouldn't be sure until we have used the engine
for a few more days.


S/Y Linnea (hull #366)
Walter Lundstrom

Dear Joel,
thanks for the info--
Fair winds,
eric





--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel F. Potter"
<jfpottercys@w...> wrote:

Hi Eric,

The light bulb blues seem to affect all late model Amel owners

from time to

time. Here is some hopefully helpful advice I've gathered over

the years.

Every large city will usually have a store specializing in light

bulbs.

Look in the Yellow Pages under LIGHT BULBS and TUBES. Here in Fort
Lauderdale we have LIGHT BULBS UNLIMITED, (954) 563-6667,
www.lightingguru.com and also CAUSEWAY LIGHTING, (954) 764-0970.

Light bulbs unlimited can get ANY light bulb you will ever need.

They are

service oriented and very helpful.

Causeway offers a G4 XENON bulb that is a direct replacement for

halogen at

almost no cost increase. XENON runs cooler, has no U.V. rays,

won't burst

when failing, lasts 5 TIMES as long as halogen and can handle

voltage surges

and spikes much better than halogen. They DON'T recommend using a

28 volt

XENON to replace a 24 volt HALOGEN as light output will decrease.

The 24

volt XENON will handle the 28 volt surges caused by the battery

chargers.

One thing to remember that is an absolute for almost any type of
incandescent bulb...DON'T TOUCH THEM! Truly, our fingers leave a

little oil

which creates a "hot-spot" which causes premature failure. If you

do touch

the bulb while installing, take a CLEAN cotton cloth with

denatured alcohol

and wipe the bulb, allowing it to evaporate before you turn it

on. I've

tested halogen and regular incandescent bulbs and this "no touch"

rule

really works on almost every bulb on the boat.

I can't wait until they perfect L.E.D. lights!

Hope this helps,
Joel F. Potter, Super Maramu #400

Byron,
how are you?
where are you?

with respect to the soot on the side of the hull i noticed it from
the first day i started the engine i just thought this was normal

i would like to hear from other sm owners if this is normal on
their boats.
do you have the 4jh3hte engine?

as for kimberlite- we are home in long island for the summer.
fair winds,
eric


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, sailslady@a... wrote:

Eric

On 5/13 you mentioned burning oil on your 4jh3hte. I have

had "excessive

soot" on my port quarter since taking delivery 10/01 of hull #340.

That is

over 800 hours. Do you also have this soot problem? I don't

notice burning

oil "excessively" however.

Byron
sailslady@a...

Hi Eric,

The light bulb blues seem to affect all late model Amel owners from time to
time. Here is some hopefully helpful advice I've gathered over the years.

Every large city will usually have a store specializing in light bulbs.
Look in the Yellow Pages under LIGHT BULBS and TUBES. Here in Fort
Lauderdale we have LIGHT BULBS UNLIMITED, (954) 563-6667,
www.lightingguru.com and also CAUSEWAY LIGHTING, (954) 764-0970.

Light bulbs unlimited can get ANY light bulb you will ever need. They are
service oriented and very helpful.

Causeway offers a G4 XENON bulb that is a direct replacement for halogen at
almost no cost increase. XENON runs cooler, has no U.V. rays, won't burst
when failing, lasts 5 TIMES as long as halogen and can handle voltage surges
and spikes much better than halogen. They DON'T recommend using a 28 volt
XENON to replace a 24 volt HALOGEN as light output will decrease. The 24
volt XENON will handle the 28 volt surges caused by the battery chargers.

One thing to remember that is an absolute for almost any type of
incandescent bulb...DON'T TOUCH THEM! Truly, our fingers leave a little oil
which creates a "hot-spot" which causes premature failure. If you do touch
the bulb while installing, take a CLEAN cotton cloth with denatured alcohol
and wipe the bulb, allowing it to evaporate before you turn it on. I've
tested halogen and regular incandescent bulbs and this "no touch" rule
really works on almost every bulb on the boat.

I can't wait until they perfect L.E.D. lights!

Hope this helps,
Joel F. Potter, Super Maramu #400

Eric

On 5/13 you mentioned burning oil on your 4jh3hte. I have had "excessive
soot" on my port quarter since taking delivery 10/01 of hull #340. That is
over 800 hours. Do you also have this soot problem? I don't notice burning
oil "excessively" however.

Byron
sailslady@aol.ccom

I have also heard of the mast head tri-color being replaced with a
28 volt bulb. where did you get the halogen bulbs at 28 volts?
thanks
eric
sm 376


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "dgoffaux" <dgoffaux@b...>
wrote:

Hi,

I have SM #135 and recently changed the original 50 amp charger

for a

Mastervolt 100 amp, with smart regulation. And I began to burn all

my

halogen bulbs because the charger goes to 28.5 V. The solution was

to

switch to 28V bulbs, as recommended by Mastervolt. I have had no
problem since, but cannot tell yet how long they will last.

Good Luck.

Daniel Goffaux
on "Passion"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Stephan Regulinski"
<stephreg@y...> wrote:

When installing the halogen bulbs, you MUST clean the bulb first

with

alcohol and then not touch it with your fingers. This is true

even

if you remove the bulb from the package without touching it.

These

bulbs are exceptionally sensitive to contamination. I keep a

small

bottle of alcohol in the same tupperware box as the spare

halogen

bulbs. My bulb life is up dramatically.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "the Lundstroms"
<linneasail@h...> wrote:

Untitled DocumentWe have had "Linnea" fore about 9 months

(hull

#366). We have to change our interior light bulbs all the time
(particular the small halogen ones). Even though we try to not

have

all the lights on, we end up switching out about 2-3 light bulbs

per

week.

When we talked to Amel about it a while back, they explained

that

the problem is with the "Smart Charger" (an option we bought)

because

it pushes the voltage up to 28V frequently (when you are on

shore

power) which is to much for the halogen light bulbs. This makes

lots

of sense, but it's still frustrating to switch out light bulbs

all

the time.

Does anybody else have the same problem?


S/Y Linnea
Walter Lundstrom

Hey Joel,

Thanks for the advice - likewise Ian. Have to admit boredom was as
much a concern as clearance under the brodges!

David

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel F. Potter"
<jfpottercys@w...> wrote:

Hi David,

Masthead height, not including antenna, is 65' 7" at middle load.

Having

sold many many boats here in Florida that headed North, I can tell

you that

I have never had any client say the I.C.W. was fun on an almost

7' deep,

almost 69' high (with all the antenna) sail boat.

I will pass along the recommendation of one sage client, "save the

I.C.W.

for when you are old and have a trawler. 10% of it is

interesting, 90% of

it is boring, plan on about 70 miles a day, max, and don't EVER

run at

night."

You will not fit under Norfolk, Virginia bridge,

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Joel F. Potter
Super Maramu #400

Hi everybody,

what restrictions have you been talking about.
i was sailing with ARC2002 from gran canaria to st.lucia and we had a coverage problem with our insurer, solved after a while. (bavaria- germany) pantaenius has a fine reputation here in europe although beeing expensive.

any details for me?

sailortom@bigfoot.com

so long, fair winds

thomas neuland
SM#3

"Claude Roessiger" <nearlynothing@yahoo.com> schrieb:

I have not been notified of any restrictions by my
insurer, Pantaenius. Year 2000 SM, B.V.I. Registered.
Maybe this is to come?
Claude Roessiger

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Hi Everyone,

as I am sure many of you are aware, there are big changes happening in the boat insurance world. My previous insurers are tightening up and it looks like single handed sailing, which we all know is a breeze on an Amel, may not in future be covered.

Does anyone know of a good company that will provide single handed cover for a Maltese registered Super Maramu 2000 in the areas of the N. Atlantic, Caribbean and Pacific please?

Regards

Ian Shepherd

This problem is not specific to the Yanmar it happens as well with the Volvo. Before replacing the solenoid I would recommend you to check the starter relay which may be faulty.
Erick MEJEAN


----Original Message Follows----
From: lastmd@aol.com
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] YANMAR ENGINE PROBLEMS
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:17:21 EDT

I have also had intermittent problems with shut down button. So far, if the
engine fails to shut down I just try again a minute or two later and it has
subsequently worked. I have had no problem with starting.
Please let me know what Amel recommends for this problem.
I have SM #369 Callisto with a Yanmar 4JH3HTE
Regards,
Michael Last




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Dear Joel,
thanks !!
Kimberlite just made it home this saturday.
fair winds,
eric



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Joel F. Potter"
<jfpottercys@w...> wrote:

Hello Eric and group members,

Regarding zincs on the rudder, reference 2002 West Marine

catalogs, page

472 "Rudder Anodes" model # 201204 will fit nicely. You must ream

the hole

slightly to take the metric bolt. Made by CANADA METAL, there

model

designation is CMR-5. The yards here call them R-5 zincs.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Joel F. Potter,
Super Maramu # 400

have any of you experienced your yanmar burning oil?
i have a 4jh3hte. If so how much?
my previous yanmar a 4jh3e did not burn any oil.
thanks
eric

I had the same problem. the amel mechanic in the canaries found that
the black starting relay on the port side of the engine was
defective. no problems since that time. it is not the starter motor
solenoid and not the valeo gold colored solenoid, but a black yanmar
relay.
fair winds,
eric



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, lastmd@a... wrote:

I have also had intermittent problems with shut down button. So

far, if the

engine fails to shut down I just try again a minute or two later

and it has

subsequently worked. I have had no problem with starting.
Please let me know what Amel recommends for this problem.
I have SM #369 Callisto with a Yanmar 4JH3HTE
Regards,
Michael Last

Hello Eric and group members,

Regarding zincs on the rudder, reference 2002 West Marine catalogs, page
472 "Rudder Anodes" model # 201204 will fit nicely. You must ream the hole
slightly to take the metric bolt. Made by CANADA METAL, there model
designation is CMR-5. The yards here call them R-5 zincs.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Joel F. Potter,
Super Maramu # 400

Hi David,

Masthead height, not including antenna, is 65' 7" at middle load. Having
sold many many boats here in Florida that headed North, I can tell you that
I have never had any client say the I.C.W. was fun on an almost 7' deep,
almost 69' high (with all the antenna) sail boat.

I will pass along the recommendation of one sage client, "save the I.C.W.
for when you are old and have a trawler. 10% of it is interesting, 90% of
it is boring, plan on about 70 miles a day, max, and don't EVER run at
night."

You will not fit under Norfolk, Virginia bridge,

Hope this helps.

Best regards,
Joel F. Potter
Super Maramu #400

I have also had intermittent problems with shut down button. So far, if the
engine fails to shut down I just try again a minute or two later and it has
subsequently worked. I have had no problem with starting.
Please let me know what Amel recommends for this problem.
I have SM #369 Callisto with a Yanmar 4JH3HTE
Regards,
Michael Last

Hi David,

most of the bridges are now 65' clearance. The SM has an air height of 20M or 65.6167979 ft to be precise. I did risk it and crept under some power cables in the Canaveral barge canal to get to Titusville to watch the shuttle take off. My FM and VHF antennas brushed 3 out of the 4 overhead power cables even at low tide. I certainly would not risk it again, especially with a solid bridge.

Good luck

Ian Shepherd

ex SM 299 Crusader

I have a Super Maramu (1995) and plan to head up the East Coast of
the USA next year. I plan to sail offshore from Fort Laurderdale up
to Charlestown but use the ICW from just below Cape Hatteras - am
told this is a nice section of ICW. I am getting conflicting
messages from cruisers I have spoken to here in the Caribbean. Does
anyone have some factual data or actual experience with regards
whether an Super Maramu can fit under the bridges on the ICW?

Regards
David Crisp
SV Gallant of Fowey

Dimitris Krassopoulos

WHEN YOU GET A RESPONSE PLEASE SHARE IT! TWO YANMAR MECHANICS HAVE

TOLD ME THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN INTERMITTENT PROBLEM ON THIS ENGINE. I
E-MAILED YANMAR WITH THE SAME QUESTION, BUT NO RESPONSE AS YET.
THANKS,
JOHN

-----Original Message-----
From: jfolino901 [mailto:jfolino901@y...]
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 4:30 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] YANMAR ENGINE PROBLEMS


ON MY SM #347 FROM TIME-TO-TIME WHEN I SHUT DOWN THE ENGINE BY
PRESSING THE KILL SWITCH, NOTHING HAPPENS (I.E. THE ENGINE

CONTINUES

TO RUN). SO I OPERATE THE MANUAL FUEL SHUTOFF ON THE ENGINE.

HOWEVER

NOW THE KEY SWITCH WON'T START THE ENGINE.
WHILE IN GUADELOUPE AMEL REPLACED THE SOLENOID AND A RELATED RELAY
WHICH WORKED FOR A WHILE, BUT THE SAME PROBLEM HAS RETURNED.
FORTUNATELY AMEL FIT AN EMERGENCY START BUTTON SOLENOID WHICH HAS
ALLOWED ME TO START THE ENGINE BY BOTH PRESSING THIS BUTTON WHILE
SOMEONE ELSE TURNS THE KEY TO START AT THE YANMAR PANEL.
ANYONE ELSE EXPERIENCE THIS?
JOHN FOLINO SULAJON



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