Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Misc Super Maramu equipment for sale
Shann, Mark V <shannmv@...>
Hi John & Ruth.
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I would be interested in the parachute anchor and lines / bags. I can offer you 400 euros. Where is this equipment now? best rgds, Amer (Synnefoula AM 153)
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From: John & Ruth Martin [mailto:jjmartin24@hotmail.com] Sent: 05 May 2003 00:42 To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Cc: jjmartin24@hotmail.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Misc Super Maramu equipment for sale We have some equipment we would like offer for sale: Genoa "sock" for Super Maramu - new Nov 1998, used about one year(replaced by UV cover on genoa), off-white color, absolutely like new in storage bag. Make offer. King size berth extension for Super Maramu aft cabin, new Nov 1998. Wood platform, foam cushion, gold fabric cushion cover - hardly used, looks brand new. Make offer. Zodiac Fast Roller 11'2" dinghy, 1998, with inflatable bottom. Just had factory servicing (new glue throughout). One-year warranty on the servicing. $1400. Parachute anchor - "Paratech" brand. 18 foot parachute with 400' of line, trip line and storage bags. Excellent condition. $800. Reply if interested to "jjmartin24@hotmail.com" or call John Martin 757-440-2424 home phone 757-286-5757 cell phone Regards John Martin SM #248 "Moon Dog" _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Misc Super Maramu equipment for sale
Hanspeter Bättig <hanspeter.baettig@...>
Sorry John,
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my offer is for the Genoa sock. Greetings from Switzerland Hanspeter
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From: John & Ruth Martin <jjmartin24@hotmail.com> To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:56 AM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Misc Super Maramu equipment for sale Hello HanspeterWood platform, foam cushion, gold fabric cushion cover - hardly used, looks
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Misc Super Maramu equipment for sale
John & Ruth Martin <jjmartin24@...>
Hello Hanspeter
Which item is your offer for ? Genoa sock or King size berth ? Thanks John From: Hanspeter Bttig <hanspeter.baettig@bluewin.ch> _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Misc Super Maramu equipment for sale
Hanspeter Bättig <hanspeter.baettig@...>
Hello John
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my offer: 98 Euro regards Hanspeter
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From: John & Ruth Martin To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Cc: jjmartin24@hotmail.com Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 11:42 PM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Misc Super Maramu equipment for sale We have some equipment we would like offer for sale: Genoa "sock" for Super Maramu - new Nov 1998, used about one year(replaced by UV cover on genoa), off-white color, absolutely like new in storage bag. Make offer. King size berth extension for Super Maramu aft cabin, new Nov 1998. Wood platform, foam cushion, gold fabric cushion cover - hardly used, looks brand new. Make offer. Zodiac Fast Roller 11'2" dinghy, 1998, with inflatable bottom. Just had factory servicing (new glue throughout). One-year warranty on the servicing. $1400. Parachute anchor - "Paratech" brand. 18 foot parachute with 400' of line, trip line and storage bags. Excellent condition. $800. Reply if interested to "jjmartin24@hotmail.com" or call John Martin 757-440-2424 home phone 757-286-5757 cell phone Regards John Martin SM #248 "Moon Dog" _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Minwax urethane finish & Eno manual
John & Ruth Martin <jjmartin24@...>
Hello all,
I refinished my propane locker door with Minwax "Helmsman" urethane semigloss from the spray can. It looks like the Amel original factory finish. I put 4 coats on, one after the other, no sanding between coats or waiting for drying time. The only difference between the Helmsman and their regular urethane is the Helmsman has UV protection in it. If I use it to refinish wood in the cabin I'll use the regular Minwax as the UV protection has a slightly darker tint. If anyone needs an English version of the Eno propsane stove operational manual, it is not long and I'd be glad to mail it to you. Regards John Martin SM #248 "Moon Dog" _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
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Misc Super Maramu equipment for sale
John & Ruth Martin <jjmartin24@...>
We have some equipment we would like offer for sale:
Genoa "sock" for Super Maramu - new Nov 1998, used about one year(replaced by UV cover on genoa), off-white color, absolutely like new in storage bag. Make offer. King size berth extension for Super Maramu aft cabin, new Nov 1998. Wood platform, foam cushion, gold fabric cushion cover - hardly used, looks brand new. Make offer. Zodiac Fast Roller 11'2" dinghy, 1998, with inflatable bottom. Just had factory servicing (new glue throughout). One-year warranty on the servicing. $1400. Parachute anchor - "Paratech" brand. 18 foot parachute with 400' of line, trip line and storage bags. Excellent condition. $800. Reply if interested to "jjmartin24@hotmail.com" or call John Martin 757-440-2424 home phone 757-286-5757 cell phone Regards John Martin SM #248 "Moon Dog" _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
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Particularly well maintained 1993 Santorin for Sale
galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
Very detailed description at http://users.starpower.net/jphjph
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STANDING RIGGING FOR AMEL MARAMU
Alejandro Paquin <simpatico_amel_maramu@...>
Can anyone advise what's the best option to buy European (Swedish?)
original rigging wire in either Europe or the Caribbean? I intend to use Norseman fittings with this wire throughout the whole boat. My rigging is now 22 years old. Please reply to: alex.paquin@usa.net Alejandro Paquin
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 1994 Super Maramu
Vivian, Robert & Aron Lewin <lewin@...>
Hello Arnold<
I Would also like to hear details of the yacht Robert On Wednesday, April 30, 2003, at 12:19 AM, jonathanmills00 wrote: --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, pagandaisy <no_reply@y...><image.tiff>
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[Amel Yacht Owners] Riviere Salee In Guadeloupe
Anne and John Hollamby <hollamby@...>
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<Dear Gary, If you are talking about the river that runs through the middle of Guardaloupe, we took our last boat, an Oyster 435, also 2mtr draft, through it and do not recall any problems. However had we gone aground at the end of the main runway which is only about 30 or 40 yards from the river we would have had horrendous disasters as we saw when we stopped some way back and watched a Jumbo run up to full power with the brakes on prior to take-off.The awesome sight could only have been bettered if Jumbos had afterburners !! You do not say which pressure vessel failed but I am sure it must be the one hidden behind the genset. The one on top of the pump set is stainless whereas the second one is steel and failed,I think, not only because it is steel but also because it is fitted with a copper elbow. The vessel is a bog standard unit which I replaced with an identical one purchased from an agricultural irrigation shop here in Malta.That size is only sold here in mild steel but one can buy the small one fitted to the pumpset or a much larger one in stainless.So I fitted the steel one but used plastic elbows etc instead of copper. Whether this will solve the problem I do not know,but has already been there longer than the original. Just why two pressure vessels are used is beyond me, perhaps Amel felt that the bigger stainless one was too large to put on the pumpset. Your tale of the failed pump for the desalinater is a worry. I think I should get a bit more warning of such a failure as I fitted a second bilge alarm about 9" down on the aft side of the sump because the standard one is higher up and I was having trouble with the electric bilge pump valves which resulted in grey water getting all over the engine room floor. This additional (electronic) alarm needed a metal shield over it to stop false alarms from water spray when the washing machine discharged into the sump. Best wishes, Anne and John Hollamby Bali Hai SM 2000 319
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Amel Mango for sale
amelmango <chiefnelson@...>
Hello fellow Amel owners,
We reluctantly have our 1983 Amel Mango up for sale. After having it listed in Soundings and Northwest Yachting, and after having every donation company, broker, and lowball buyer contact us to either give it away or steal it, which given the economy might be understandable, we thought of turning to other Amel owners for a hand. While we were cruising we came across many people who were interested in the boat, too bad we didn't want to sell then! So we thought if anyone knew of someone who would be interested in an Amel, but didn't want a new boat, and would consider a great boat at a fair price, we would sure appreciate you passing this info on to them. The boat is located in Portland, Oregon, USA and more info can be found at http://groups.msn.com/amelmango Thanks for your help and we hope you have a great spring sailing season. Best regards, Adam Nelson
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Fango
amelfango <Robert.Kyle@...>
To Antonio and Giovanna Stoppani
Dear Antonio and Giovanna, Will contact you later today to put up some pictures etc today or tomorrow. Best Rgds, Rob
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Re: 1994 Super Maramu
jonathanmills00 <jonathan.mills@...>
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, pagandaisy <no_reply@y...>
wrote: I am thinking of selling my 1994 Super Maramu as now living inCaribbean. She is currently at the dock in Tortola, ready to go.Hi Arnold I would like to hear the details of your yacht regards Jonathan jonathan.mills@ireland.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Fango
Tonino Stoppani <md3536@...>
I would be pleased to receive more info on your "EBBREZZA" including status, location, price, accessories, pictures and whatever you feel important.
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Many thanks Antonio and Giovanna Stoppani from Roma-Italia
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From: amelfango To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel Fango We have an Amel Fango for sale. For those who don't know the Fango it is a 10m Sloop with many of the facilities of the larger Amels. It is configured as a 2 berth Ocean/ 6 person day sailer. It was commissioned in 1989 and is called "Ebbrezza". For any one interested I will forward more information. Rob Kyle, rob.molly@mac.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: amelyachtowners-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Amel Fango
amelfango <Robert.Kyle@...>
We have an Amel Fango for sale. For those who don't know the
Fango it is a 10m Sloop with many of the facilities of the larger Amels. It is configured as a 2 berth Ocean/ 6 person day sailer. It was commissioned in 1989 and is called "Ebbrezza". For any one interested I will forward more information. Rob Kyle, rob.molly@mac.com
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Riviere Salee In Guadeloupe
Claude Roessiger <nearlynothing@...>
The advice to me from Amel Guadeloupe was to
definitely NOT attempt the Riviere Salee; there simply isn't enough water, full or empty tanks. There is a very nice harbor in the Northwest of Guadeloupe, Deshayes, which some boats heading to Antigua ignore or suppose to be not very good. I recommend it. It makes the sail north easy, and usually gives a straight shot to Falmouth Harbour in any case; if the wind is a little more East, Green Island is possible. Best. Claude Roessiger __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com
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Riviere Salee In Guadeloupe
amelliahona <no_reply@...>
April 27, 2003
Hello to all. I have enjoyed reading all the messages over the last year or so. Many useful items of information. Our Super Maramu 2000 is currently in Marina Bas du Fort, Guadeloupe. We anticipate leaving for Antigua in a few weeks. I have received varying opinions about whether an amel with full water tanks and full fuel tanks and moderate load of people and junk can navigate through the Riviere Salee. Has anyone out there done it? How recently? Any words of advice? Shortly after reading about the failure of the fresh water pressure accumulator tank on another Amel, ours sprung a leak. It appeared to be a failure at the the base of the 3/4 inch pipe fitting where it is welded to the tank. There was corrosion and the tank metal in this area coulbe be easily penetrated with a pencil. The boat is 21 months old. This jetted fresh water onto the genset. After drying up the engine compartment I partially disassembled all the panels on the genset and was able to verify that no water damage was done. I'm not sure why this failed but I believe it was a faulty weld. This sounds like the exact same spot that the other member had a failure. Caution to all. You might consider probing this area gently at the neck of the fitting with a piece of sharpened wood to see if it is thin and about to rupture. On a more serious note, the same day, the desalinator low pressure feed pump suffered a catastrophic seal failure. This happened while we sailed between Grenada and Carriacou. As we sailed we made water and at one point the bilge alarm went off. I immedicately opened the engine hatch only to see water sloshing back and forth in the engine room. I jumped below and a quick lick of the water confirmed it to be sea water. I didn't see where it was coming from initially so I turned off the main thru hull and then isolated it to the above noted pump. The clean up of the engine room and Boeshielding everything took a day. Disassembly of the pump in Tyrell Bay showed severe corrosion on the shaft of the motor which caused the shaft seal to rupture. The pump is un-repairable because the shaft was so badly corroded. Total time on the desalinator is 95 hours. Laurent Colonna in Guadeloupe says he has never seen this type of failure before. To Amel's everlasting credit (and once again proving that they are a top notch company) they are replacing the pump under warranty. I am concerned though about this premature failure. I have always meticulously flushed the system with fresh water after every use. I did have the boat on the hard in Grenada for 5 months during the hurricaine season and wondered if crevice corrosion occured under the seal from the stagnant water. The other possibility is that the anchor wash-down pump (that has leaked since new despite Laurents best efforts to seal it)that sits next too the desalinator pump had allowed salt water onto the exposed portion of the motor shaft thus causing the corrosion. Has anyone else had this problem? When the boat will be inactive for a period of time would it be better to completely empty the water lines and pumps rather than just flusing them all with fresh water? I would be interested in other peoples experience. Still the Amel is a great boat and Chantiers Amel is a great company with great people. Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Hull # 335
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPM on Volvo TMD22A, again...!
Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
Hi Daniel
You should be able to reach 2900 RPM at full throttle. I understand from your previous message that your engine seems not to have any problem to reach high reps in neutral gear. It probably means that your prop. is not very clean. With regards to the top speed you should be able to reach it at around 2700 RPM with a clean hull, in good weather condition. Clean hull means right after an antifouling treatment and not one or two months later.Talking about speed, check the GPS speed and the B&G information. If no current they should be the same. Personally on long passages (several days) I run the engine at around 2200 which gives me a speed in the range of 7 - knots depending on the hull cleanness. Erick MEJEAN Best regards ----Original Message Follows---- From: "dgoffaux" <dgoffaux@bhkmining.com> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPM on Volvo TMD22A, again...! Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 19:24:38 -0000 Hi Erick, Thanks for the answer, you are right about the torque. Only, it still seems strange to be so close to the maximum, as at maximum throttle, I reach 2600 to 2700 rpm, and that gives a notch above 7 knots (not exactly hull speed). Which means that I should cruise at 2000 to 2200, maximum, at maybe 6.5 knots. Does that sound right? My previous boat had a Yanmar, somewhat faster reving, so this one puzzles me. Best regards, Daniel Goffaux --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...> wrote: 4500 RPM, but it reach its peak torque of 162 Nm at 2400 RPM.regardless of the power you will never achieve a higher speed than the hull speed.sea as it is the time when the engine has the more strength.factors. Changing the propeller pitch would be a big mistake as it will makeyour prop no longer adapted to the engine,transmission and hull specs.calculate the size and pitch of a propeller given a boat specs.motoring in choppy water or against the wind but the overall efficiency of yourengine will be lower.at 2500 RPM your consumption will be in the range of 7 L/h and you willreach your max hull speed. Running the engine at 3500 RPM will multiply yourmeans basically a fuel autonomy divided by two........hours, which never occur to a car engine. As such to prevent the turbo cloggingevery three hours you should push your engine to 3000 RPM for around 20min to eliminate the carbon residues. Eventhough you run your engine at3500 RPM for hours without changing the RPM sooner or later you may face thisturbo clogging problem. _________________________________________________________________ Download Norah Jones, Eminem and more! http://www.msn.com.sg/ringtones/
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPM on Volvo TMD22A, again...!
dgoffaux <dgoffaux@...>
Hi Erick,
Thanks for the answer, you are right about the torque. Only, it still seems strange to be so close to the maximum, as at maximum throttle, I reach 2600 to 2700 rpm, and that gives a notch above 7 knots (not exactly hull speed). Which means that I should cruise at 2000 to 2200, maximum, at maybe 6.5 knots. Does that sound right? My previous boat had a Yanmar, somewhat faster reving, so this one puzzles me. Best regards, Daniel Goffaux --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Erick MEJEAN" <maramu@h...> wrote: 4500 RPM, but it reach its peak torque of 162 Nm at 2400 RPM.regardless of the power you will never achieve a higher speed than the hull speed.sea as it is the time when the engine has the more strength.factors. Changing the propeller pitch would be a big mistake as it will makeyour prop no longer adapted to the engine,transmission and hull specs.calculate the size and pitch of a propeller given a boat specs.motoring in choppy water or against the wind but the overall efficiency of yourengine will be lower.at 2500 RPM your consumption will be in the range of 7 L/h and you willreach your max hull speed. Running the engine at 3500 RPM will multiply yourmeans basically a fuel autonomy divided by two........hours, which never occur to a car engine. As such to prevent the turbo cloggingevery three hours you should push your engine to 3000 RPM for around 20min to eliminate the carbon residues. Eventhough you run your engine at3500 RPM for hours without changing the RPM sooner or later you may face thisturbo clogging problem.
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPM on Volvo TMD22A, again...!
Erick MEJEAN <maramu@...>
Hi Daniel
You must consider two things when you look at an engine performance. Power output and torque. Each engine has its own power curve and torque curve. Both don't follow the same pattern and don't have the same meaning. With regards to the TMD 22 it reach its peak power of 57.4 KW at 4500 RPM, but it reach its peak torque of 162 Nm at 2400 RPM. At 4500 RPM the torque is down to 125 Nm. While motoring you are more interested by torque than power as regardless of the power you will never achieve a higher speed than the hull speed. Running an engine at its best torque does not make it labouring the sea as it is the time when the engine has the more strength. The calculation of the propeller pitch takes into account all these factors. Changing the propeller pitch would be a big mistake as it will make your prop no longer adapted to the engine,transmission and hull specs. Propeller companies are using extremely sophysticated software to calculate the size and pitch of a propeller given a boat specs. The power will only help you to maintain a higher speed while motoring in choppy water or against the wind but the overall efficiency of your engine will be lower. You also need to consider the consumption. While running your engine at 2500 RPM your consumption will be in the range of 7 L/h and you will reach your max hull speed. Running the engine at 3500 RPM will multiply your consumption by almost two and your speed will remain the same. Which means basically a fuel autonomy divided by two........ What the engine does not like is to be run at the same RPM for hours, which never occur to a car engine. As such to prevent the turbo clogging every three hours you should push your engine to 3000 RPM for around 20 min to eliminate the carbon residues. Eventhough you run your engine at 3500 RPM for hours without changing the RPM sooner or later you may face this turbo clogging problem. Hope this will answer your questions With best regards Erick MEJEAN ----Original Message Follows---- From: "dgoffaux" <dgoffaux@bhkmining.com> Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPM on Volvo TMD22A, again...! Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 20:50:03 -0000 So happy to have found this site! And to be able to find out how others have solved various problems (few, actually, in my case) with their Super Maramu! I purchased SM #135 last year in France (this is a 1995 model) had a good revision on all systems and crossed over to Ft Lauderdale last December. 17 days from Gran Canary to Guadeloupe, whithout pushing, the fishing was too good! One thing I noticed at purchase time was that the engine, in gear, will not go over 2700 rpm. The Volvo manual indicates a max. speed of over 4000 rpm for the turbo version. The engine runs nicely, without smoking and has about 2000 h. now. The Volvo dealer in Guadeloupe said that they knew about Amel habit to reduce RPM with the adjustment of the Max prop, a procedure whith which they totally disagree! They recommend, at next haulout, to adjust the Max prop as to obtain about 3,400 rpm with the engine in gear (in neutral there is no problem to rev up). In France, I also had the turbo dismantled and cleaned, as it was found full of soot. So, 1. What is the normal max rpm for the Volvo, as per Amel, and/or as per Volvo? 2. Presumably, if the pitch of the Max prop is to high, keeping the engine "labouring", it will induce sooting and will clog the turbo, especially if indeed it only starts to pump at 2500 rpm or there about. This may explain why - as I just read on various notes on this site- one needs to rev up to maximum revolution for a few minutes every so often. Why not, instead, have the engine running at its recommended speed? 3. Obviously, I can see why someone recommended to remove the turbo and clean it every year. This does not seem right however. Nobody does that on a car or industrial equipment for that matter. Has anyone any suggestion? Should I leave my engine /Max-Prop as they are, or should I make some adjustments? One last question on the transmission: what sort of oil should we use, it says on it ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid) but what kind? There are now 4 different Dextron type fluid oils, does it matter which one? I would be gratefull if someone could shed some light on those issues. Good sailing to all. Daniel Goffaux On "Passion" _________________________________________________________________ Keep track of your Singapore stock prices. http://www.msn.com.sg/money/
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