Gooday, Sometime this year I need to replace a cutlass bearing. I
have not done this job before and would appreciate advice on how it
all comes appart etc.

Thanks,
Mike Gough

Hi Rob & Glen,

I kept very accurate accounts of my 2 year and 25,000 nm voyage in a new SM 2000. During that time I made some additions such as a wind generator, solar panels, deck wash, extra shelves and a hot water changeover system to get hot water from the generator. Most of the work I did myself. I also bought a new genoa and had to haul out twice to change the prop shaft seals and also to renew the antifouling. I lived on board the entire time and used marina's as little as possible.

Overall costs worked out at $2400 per month or $28,800 per year. This include some $1000 to run the company that owns the yacht. A quick breakdown is as follows:

Insurance 18%
Provisions 17%
Repairs 9.5%
Improvements 9.4%
Eating ashore 6.1%
Marina charges 5.8%
Diesel 3.8%
New Genoa 6.3%

I hope that this is of some help. By the way, I could not get insurance from Pantaenius for a circum navigation on my new Amel, but Assurance Maritime in La Rochelle came up with world wide cover from 60N to 30S at 1.27% with a 0.4% deductible. This is a special deal for Amel owners only and is known as the "Prestige Amel" contract. Contact is Monsieur Alain de Lassee at assmardelassee@wanadoo.fr

Ian Shepherd SM #414 "Crusader"

what does one use to prevent the "teak Decks" from fading?
thanks
eric kimberlite sm 376

Dear Claud,
where are you located?
eric Freedman sm 376 kimberlite huntington ny



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Claude Roessiger
<nearlynothing@y...> wrote:

I think that depending on how much sailing you do, it
will be reasonable to budget USD 25,000. to maintain
an SM in excellent condition. If you do a geat deal of
the work yourself, you can likely reduce this by USD
10,000. Our SM is 3 years old, and aside from routine
small items the work is done by a good yard; we do
have the added cold-climate consideration of
decommissioning for the winter lay-up. However, during
years in which we kept the boat in the water
year-around, the winter in the Caribbean, we found
that the extra wear and tear of the extra sea months
came to about the same as decommissioning. This annual
maintenance cost compares with about USD 15,000. which
we had over a 15-year period with a Maramu, a less
complex boat in many respects.
Claude Roessiger, Nanuq SM #308

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I think that depending on how much sailing you do, it
will be reasonable to budget USD 25,000. to maintain
an SM in excellent condition. If you do a geat deal of
the work yourself, you can likely reduce this by USD
10,000. Our SM is 3 years old, and aside from routine
small items the work is done by a good yard; we do
have the added cold-climate consideration of
decommissioning for the winter lay-up. However, during
years in which we kept the boat in the water
year-around, the winter in the Caribbean, we found
that the extra wear and tear of the extra sea months
came to about the same as decommissioning. This annual
maintenance cost compares with about USD 15,000. which
we had over a 15-year period with a Maramu, a less
complex boat in many respects.
Claude Roessiger, Nanuq SM #308

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Hello Amelites

As we get very close to taking the plunge and buying a Super Maramu,
we would appreciate your guidance on annual costs of running a 6-7
year old boat. Advice on major refit items (rigging and sails), and
general costs would be great!
We hope you can help
Rob and Glen Brennan, Australie

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Olivier Beaute at Amel told me that the easy solution is to make a kevlar
strop to put round the mast just above the spreaders and then rig an inner
forestay down to the anchor winch with a suitable tensioning device. I
cannot remember where a storm jib should be sheeted to.
I fitted an inner forestay on my last boat,(a very leaky lousy Oyster 435)
with the head of the stay fixed to the mast about three feet down from the
top and with a special through deck fitting to secure the tensioner. The
stay was tied back by the mast and only rigged (with a bagged Storm jib)
for long passages in the South Pacific. It was never used in anger in the
five years we were there and i have not bothered with Bali Hai No 319.

Regards, John Hollamby

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite1212
<no_reply@y...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alejandro Paquin"
<simpatico_amel_maramu@y...> wrote:

Does anyone know somebody who could help me diagnose a

malfunction

in

my NECO Autopilot?
A.Paquin

what model neco do you have? where are you located?
eric
kimberlite

I'm located near La Guaira, Venezuela in Club Puerto Azul and my NECO
Autopilot , built in July 1980 was installed on my Maramu one year
later. I have a 12VDC system equipped with a reverse rotation motor
(Model G7R) a contro unit model 692CU and transmitting compass model
nm3.
The unit began failing by not making corrections to port and then
ceased to respond completely. The wiring and the units are impecable,
never in contact with water, and the electric motor works when
operated vía the contactors in the motor itself (in both directions).
The units have never been serviced and are in their original state.
No metal objects are near the compass.

I'd apreciate any help I can get with my problem.

Thanks for asking,

Alex

Has anyone installed a removable inner forestay for use with a storm
jib? What do you like or not like about it? How did you install it?

Any suggestions? (Joel Potter, any thoughts?)

Or, does anyone recommend not installing an inner forestay? Thanks.

David Lambertsen
s/v Have Fun!
Maramu 258

I have a NECO 1980.If you need spares there is a contact in England who provided me with spares 3 years ago. You can try at telephone 00441243377868. If you are in the the spanish mediterranean coast I can give you an address.
Luis
Amel Mango Aloysius


Alejandro Paquin <simpatico_amel_maramu@yahoo.com> wrote:

Does anyone know somebody who could help me diagnose a malfunction in
my NECO Autopilot?
A.Paquin


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--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Alejandro Paquin"
<simpatico_amel_maramu@y...> wrote:

Does anyone know somebody who could help me diagnose a malfunction

in

my NECO Autopilot?
A.Paquin

what model neco do you have? where are you located?
eric
kimberlite

Does anyone know somebody who could help me diagnose a malfunction in
my NECO Autopilot?
A.Paquin

Hello all,
Excalibur is now in the Chesapeake after a winter in the
Caribbean and the Bahamas. Summer destination is New England.
After 20 years of Amel ownership (Maramu & Super Maramu), I can
offer the following insights into the soot problem:
Causes: On the Super Maramu, the problem is usually caused by
running a turbo-charged diesel engine at too low RPMs. Why Amels
have turbochargers is a good question, but a turbo-charged diesel
needs to run at high RPMs to burn the fuel efficiently. On Maramus,
running at low speed causes the same problem. Soot is caused by
incompletely burned diesel, not lubrication oil. Unless the engine
is run at 2400 RPM and above (for the Volvo, probably similar for the
Yanmar), soot will form in the exhaust system, and deposit on the
outside of the hull. However, most of us don't like the noise and
fuel consumption associated with high RPMs, so we run at closer to
2000 RPM. At lower RPMs, the turbo doesn't provide enough air to the
engine, and the result is incomplete combustion.
Solutions: Run the engine hard, at least once in a while.
Otherwise, clean the hull often. I recently came across a good
product for removing soot: ROLL-OFF, sold by Boater's World (but not
West or Boat US), if applied as directed, and soon after the soot
forms, will remove it easily. Use it every day you motor more than a
couple of hours, and you won't have any soot. To get rid of old soot
the first time, follow Joel's recommendations, posted here a few
months ago.
Good sailing! Roy

Hi Dan
You will find all the Yanmar specs inclusive of the consumption on Yanmar's website

http://www.yanmar.com/marine/pdfs2/JH.pdf

Erick

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From: "danscoggin" <danscoggin@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Fuel Consumption
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 15:17:08 -0000

Hi, I am a new member taking delivery of a SM in November. I am
looking forward to the Amel experience. She will be equipped with a
standard generator and the 100 HP Yanmar.

Could someone tell me what the average fuel consumption for the
Yanmar is as well as the average fuel consumption and run time for
the generator? I am trying to do a little trip planning and get a
feel for the fuel requirements for the Atlantic crossing.

Thanks,
Dan

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Hi, I am a new member taking delivery of a SM in November. I am
looking forward to the Amel experience. She will be equipped with a
standard generator and the 100 HP Yanmar.

Could someone tell me what the average fuel consumption for the
Yanmar is as well as the average fuel consumption and run time for
the generator? I am trying to do a little trip planning and get a
feel for the fuel requirements for the Atlantic crossing.

Thanks,
Dan

Hello John

If gear oil is leaking from where the prop shaft enters the housing
the most likely culprit is the wearing bearing. This a simple
replacement and is part of Amels sheduled maintenance regiment.
Usually it is every 800 hours. The rings are made of rubber so they
may have been damaged. If you do have a leak than most likely water
has entered your gear housing so you should make sure that it is well
flushed. Also, dont wait too long to do it as salt water and metal
gears are not a good mix.

Vito Ciaravino
ASM283


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "jfolino901"
<jfolino901@y...> wrote:

I HAVE POSTED THIS MESSAGE BEFORE, BUT HAS ANYONE SOLVED THE

ELECTRIC

ENGINE SHUTDOWN SOLENOID/RELAY PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL?
ALSO I HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH GEAR OIL LEAKING FROM THE PROPELLER
HOUSING WITH ONLY 338 ENGINE HOURS. IS THIS A COMMON OCCURENCE WITH
OTHER AUTOPROP VERSIONS?
JOHN FOLINO SM #347 SULAJON

I had a similar problem on my previous boat an Amel Santorin. You can
recognise that there is a possible leak by having sea water coming in the
expansion tank in the engine room. The oil becomes an emulsion getting white
like milk. The possible problem could be a damage in the rings at the end of
the shaft which can be created by a rope or net in the propeller or by a
fishing plastic line. You can fix it easily if you have the rings haul out
the boat keep it hanging and replace the rings on the spot and bring the
boat back in the water. Be sure to order before the two rings from Amel.

Best Regards


Dimitris Krassopoulos




Mobile GSM: +306944302318
Email: dkra@almalibre.gr <mailto:dkra@almalibre.gr>
Web: www.almalibre.gr <http://www.almalibre.gr/>

I HAVE POSTED THIS MESSAGE BEFORE, BUT HAS ANYONE SOLVED THE ELECTRIC
ENGINE SHUTDOWN SOLENOID/RELAY PROBLEM ONCE AND FOR ALL?
ALSO I HAVE HAD A PROBLEM WITH GEAR OIL LEAKING FROM THE PROPELLER
HOUSING WITH ONLY 338 ENGINE HOURS. IS THIS A COMMON OCCURENCE WITH
OTHER AUTOPROP VERSIONS?
JOHN FOLINO SM #347 SULAJON

Hello,

Several of you have been asking to remain in the forum. All existing
members are NOT AFFECTED by the new restriction in membership. Only
folks that want to join will be 'screened'.

Please do not send in postings requesting to continue receiving all
the Amel forum messages. You all will continue to receive these
automatically (as you've already have specified in the profile
perferences).

Thanks
Richard

To address Michael Last's issue, there's NO CHANGE to ANY
preferences that you signed up for in this forum. If you signed up
for email delivery of the postings, you'll continue to receive
those.

The only change is that people that want to join will have to
request membership approval, that's all. Existing members have not a
thing to do!

Thanks
Richard