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Re: BOWTHRUSTER SEAL PROBLEMS

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello

Seals leaking is a common problem. Changing the seals regularly
helps. I change them every time the boat is out of the water. It is
a very simple procedure. There are 3 seals 1 inside the boat and two
between the shaft and the unit.

The Bow Thruster can be removed and serviced while the boat is in
the water. You need a special tool from Amel or a diver. I have
never done this but I believe if you search this site you can find
the best procedure.

There is a way to adjust the pressure that is put on the seals by
adjusting the motor travel. I have described how to do this in the
previous post about bow thruster not going up all the way. Also if
you put the safety pin in this may help.

When you remove the unit dont forget to change the oil. If there is
water in the oil you will also need to change the seal on the prop.
Again very simple procedure.

Good luck

Vito

Wanderer

asm 283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "L. CAMERON"
<solarconstruction@...> wrote:



FROM LADY DIVINA, SM 317
MY BOWTHRUSTER IS LEAKING ALOT OF SEAWATER ONLY WHEN SAILING
THRU SOME SWELL, BUT NOT AT ANCHOR. A 4-5 HOUR SAIL WILL LEAK 2-3
GALLONS INTO THE BILGE BY THE FORE HEAD PASSAGEWAY.
MY QUESTIONS ARE:
1) WHY IS THIS UNIT WITH VERY LITTLE USE LEAKING THRU THE SEALS
ON A YEAR 2001 BOAT?? DOES AMEL WARANTY THIS IF IT IS SO COMMON??
2) HAS ANYONE CHANGED THE SEALS WHILE AT ANCHOR?? IS THEIR SEA
WATER INTRUSION WHEN THE UNIT IS DROPPED OUT IN CALM WATERS?
3) WILL GREASING THE SHAFT AND MOVING THE UNIT UP & DOWN TO
LUBRICATE THE SEALS, MINIMIZE THE PROBLEM UNTIL I CAN HAULOUT MORE
CONVENIENTLY??
4) DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLEAR SCHEMATIC SHOWING THE SEALS?? HOW
MANY SEALS ARE THERE TO CHANGE??
THANKS FOR ANY HELP!!! LADY DIVINA SM#317



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BOWTHRUSTER SEAL PROBLEMS

L. CAMERON <solarconstruction@...>
 

FROM LADY DIVINA, SM 317
MY BOWTHRUSTER IS LEAKING ALOT OF SEAWATER ONLY WHEN SAILING THRU SOME SWELL, BUT NOT AT ANCHOR. A 4-5 HOUR SAIL WILL LEAK 2-3 GALLONS INTO THE BILGE BY THE FORE HEAD PASSAGEWAY.
MY QUESTIONS ARE:
1) WHY IS THIS UNIT WITH VERY LITTLE USE LEAKING THRU THE SEALS ON A YEAR 2001 BOAT?? DOES AMEL WARANTY THIS IF IT IS SO COMMON??
2) HAS ANYONE CHANGED THE SEALS WHILE AT ANCHOR?? IS THEIR SEA WATER INTRUSION WHEN THE UNIT IS DROPPED OUT IN CALM WATERS?
3) WILL GREASING THE SHAFT AND MOVING THE UNIT UP & DOWN TO LUBRICATE THE SEALS, MINIMIZE THE PROBLEM UNTIL I CAN HAULOUT MORE CONVENIENTLY??
4) DOES ANYONE HAVE A CLEAR SCHEMATIC SHOWING THE SEALS?? HOW MANY SEALS ARE THERE TO CHANGE??
THANKS FOR ANY HELP!!! LADY DIVINA SM#317



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Re: Bowthruster does not rise far enough on Super Maramu

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Mark

I am not sure that your setup is the same as the one on Wanderer
hull # 283. So this is how I adjust my Bow thruster.

If you observe the assembly as it rises and falls you will see that
there is a rod with two metal arrows on it.One at the top and the
other on the bootom. These arrows press on a button and this tells
the motor when to stop running. These arrows can be adjusted quite
easily using and allen wrench. Its quite simple once you do it.

Good luck.

Vito Ciaravino

ASM 283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@...>
wrote:

A couple of days ago I did some work on the bow thruster that
involved
partly removing the motor as well as changing the seals and the
oil in
the bow thruster prop assembly. I have it all back together now
but I
cannot get the whole thing to ascend far enough to put the safety
pin
in place unless someone stands under the boat (it is on the hard)
and
pushes up with some force. Before this maintenance, I could insert
the safety pin judge by pulling lightly on the cable. How can I
adjust
things so that I can get the motor to rise a small amount more so
that
I can insert the safety pin? There were two spongy seals on
between
the prop assembly and the hull, so I replaced them with two new
seals.
Could two seals be the source of the problem?

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Bowthruster does not rise far enough on Super Maramu

Mark Pitt
 

A couple of days ago I did some work on the bow thruster that involved
partly removing the motor as well as changing the seals and the oil in
the bow thruster prop assembly. I have it all back together now but I
cannot get the whole thing to ascend far enough to put the safety pin
in place unless someone stands under the boat (it is on the hard) and
pushes up with some force. Before this maintenance, I could insert
the safety pin judge by pulling lightly on the cable. How can I adjust
things so that I can get the motor to rise a small amount more so that
I can insert the safety pin? There were two spongy seals on between
the prop assembly and the hull, so I replaced them with two new seals.
Could two seals be the source of the problem?

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Heat exchanger

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Vito, Following your example I have now had my heat exchanger cleaned. After 2000 hours needed it!Thanks for the tip. Ian


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine change

Udo J. Reich <udo@...>
 

Dear Mr. Potter,

Thank you for the helpful information. The engine seems ok a t this point. I
definitely need new motor mounts and some seals.

The Max Prop settings are great. Thank you. Do you happen to know to much
rpm this engine should go up to under full forward power?



Udo J. Reich

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Fax 206. 388 1043



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From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@att.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Engine change



Dear Mr. Reich,

Is your Perkins engine in need of a re-build? I have a very
low hour VOLVO TMD 22 engine which is actually a Perkins
Prima/M80 Turbo with green paint. When Caterpillar bought
Perkins, initially they stopped Perkins from retail
marketing and instead focused on supplying other
manufacturers. Volvo marketed the Prima/M80T for several
years.

Anyway, I have one in a warehouse that was removed from a
Super Maramu because of a recurrent rear oil pan seal
failure where oil would leak out slowly. This has been
fixed. I would be willing to sell it for a lot less than a
rebuild. It has less than 500 hours, can't remember exactly
but I have it written down on the engine.

The MAX PROP numbers follow:
560 m.m
22º
X =E XRAY – ECHO
Y = D YANKEE – DELTA

Consult your MAX PROP manual if this reads like Greek to
you.

Best regards,
Joel F. Potter
AMEL 54 "HOLLIS" Hull #14







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Re: Engine change

amelforme
 

Dear Mr. Reich,

Is your Perkins engine in need of a re-build? I have a very
low hour VOLVO TMD 22 engine which is actually a Perkins
Prima/M80 Turbo with green paint. When Caterpillar bought
Perkins, initially they stopped Perkins from retail
marketing and instead focused on supplying other
manufacturers. Volvo marketed the Prima/M80T for several
years.

Anyway, I have one in a warehouse that was removed from a
Super Maramu because of a recurrent rear oil pan seal
failure where oil would leak out slowly. This has been
fixed. I would be willing to sell it for a lot less than a
rebuild. It has less than 500 hours, can't remember exactly
but I have it written down on the engine.

The MAX PROP numbers follow:
560 m.m
22º
X =E XRAY – ECHO
Y = D YANKEE – DELTA

Consult your MAX PROP manual if this reads like Greek to
you.

Best regards,
Joel F. Potter
AMEL 54 "HOLLIS" Hull #14


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: engine change

Udo J. Reich <udo@...>
 

Thank you Richard. I'll check it out.



Udo J. Reich

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Fax 206. 388 1043



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From: closereach [mailto:closereach@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 6:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: engine change



Udo,

I have a 1989 Super Maramu with perhaps the same model M80T Perkins.
I suggest you give Foley Engines up in Mass a call or email--they
have everything you'll need to get your Perkins and Hurth
transmission running smoothly. Phone is 508-753-2979 or email
info@foleyengines.com. Even if your Perkins wasn't taken care of
properly and needs an overhaul, that may be a better (and less
costly) way to proceed.

Richard
SM#5 Spice

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Udo J. Reich" <udo@...>
wrote:

We are the new owners of a SM built in 1991 with the 80 hp Perkins
Turbo and
a Maxprop. I have several questions.

Has anybody changed engines and switched to the 4JH3-HTE Yanmar
engine?

If we keep the Perkins, we need new motor mounts. Any idea where to
get
them?

Anybody who has the same set up with the Maxprop. What is your
cruising rpm
and your max rpm under power?

Does anybody with a max prop and the 80 hp Perkins know the setting
of the
pitch of the prop?

I'd appreciate any input.





Udo J. Reich

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Re: engine change

Zanareva
 

Udo,

I have a 1989 Super Maramu with perhaps the same model M80T Perkins.
I suggest you give Foley Engines up in Mass a call or email--they
have everything you'll need to get your Perkins and Hurth
transmission running smoothly. Phone is 508-753-2979 or email
info@foleyengines.com. Even if your Perkins wasn't taken care of
properly and needs an overhaul, that may be a better (and less
costly) way to proceed.

Richard
SM#5 Spice

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Udo J. Reich" <udo@...>
wrote:

We are the new owners of a SM built in 1991 with the 80 hp Perkins
Turbo and
a Maxprop. I have several questions.

Has anybody changed engines and switched to the 4JH3-HTE Yanmar
engine?

If we keep the Perkins, we need new motor mounts. Any idea where to
get
them?

Anybody who has the same set up with the Maxprop. What is your
cruising rpm
and your max rpm under power?

Does anybody with a max prop and the 80 hp Perkins know the setting
of the
pitch of the prop?

I'd appreciate any input.





Udo J. Reich

Cloud seven





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engine change

Udo J. Reich <udo@...>
 

We are the new owners of a SM built in 1991 with the 80 hp Perkins Turbo and
a Maxprop. I have several questions.

Has anybody changed engines and switched to the 4JH3-HTE Yanmar engine?

If we keep the Perkins, we need new motor mounts. Any idea where to get
them?

Anybody who has the same set up with the Maxprop. What is your cruising rpm
and your max rpm under power?

Does anybody with a max prop and the 80 hp Perkins know the setting of the
pitch of the prop?

I'd appreciate any input.





Udo J. Reich

Cloud seven


Painting deck stripes

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Put deck stripes in the search box and become a well read painter!!

Regards, John


Re: Maramu forestay removal

myersdon1 <myersdon@...>
 

I don't have experience with the Maramu, however I have removed the
forestay on our Super Maramu. There is a plastic spacer at the
bottom of the foil that must be removed before pulling the forestay
out. Once this is removed the forestay comes out with very little
force. I suspect that the setup on the Maramu is similar.

Don Myers
SM160 Harmonie

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "coatsken" <goldendaze@...>
wrote:

I have removed the main to paint and re rig on 1985 Maramu hull #
192.
All is apart except I am having difficulty getting the forestay out
of
the furling tube. I have tied the base to a tree and have pulled
on the
eye (top end) with a come-a-long up to about 800 pounds or so, (my
guess) and nothing has moved. Thinking corrosion in the tube
blocking
the plastic (or nylon) spacers (the gadjets that keep the wire from
touching the inner tube wall) I have poured wd-40 and mineral
spirits
down the tube. Still it won't budge. Has anyone got some
experience
with this job. Maybe I am overlooking something simple
(or stupid). Need help as am afraid of hurting the furling tube and
compounding my problems.
We had hoped to sail to the Med this May/June, but will postpone
until
next year as my time estimates on getting the boat ready have proven
to be somewhat naive.

Thanks,
Ken Coats & Judy Golden
SV Golden Daze
Maramu #192


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu forestay removal

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Ken, I have no experience with the furler, but lots with frozen,rusted bolts and nuts. There is a product called 'Blaster' P B sold in auto supply stores. It's 10 to one better then wd40 or any thing else. Don't leave port without it!
John Moondog SM248


From: "coatsken" <goldendaze@uuplus.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu forestay removal
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 12:58:56 -0000

I have removed the main to paint and re rig on 1985 Maramu hull # 192.
All is apart except I am having difficulty getting the forestay out of
the furling tube. I have tied the base to a tree and have pulled on the
eye (top end) with a come-a-long up to about 800 pounds or so, (my
guess) and nothing has moved. Thinking corrosion in the tube blocking
the plastic (or nylon) spacers (the gadjets that keep the wire from
touching the inner tube wall) I have poured wd-40 and mineral spirits
down the tube. Still it won't budge. Has anyone got some experience
with this job. Maybe I am overlooking something simple
(or stupid). Need help as am afraid of hurting the furling tube and
compounding my problems.
We had hoped to sail to the Med this May/June, but will postpone until
next year as my time estimates on getting the boat ready have proven
to be somewhat naive.

Thanks,
Ken Coats & Judy Golden
SV Golden Daze
Maramu #192


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Painting deck stripes

liebling207 <liebling207@...>
 

rbenven44

We would like to paint the deck strips on our Amel and saw the
pictures you had posted. Could you let us know what materials you
used. The stripes look GREAT!
James DeSalvo


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] leak in clothes washer

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Thanks Eric

I figured Amel must have done something to make it easy. As usual
you are a lifesaver.

Vito

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Vito,

If your washer is anything like mine, there are a few polished
bolts on the
sides of the washer cabinet.

By removing these few bolts the whole cabinet comes away from the
washer and
is very easy to move or remove.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of asm283
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] leak in clotheswasher



Hello everyone

I have a 2000 SM# 283 with Thomson washer/drier

I have notied a slight leak in my clothes washer drier. I believe
its
from the freshwater intake but I cant be sure.

Has anyone had a similar problem. If so how did you fix it.

Has anyone had to remove the clotheswasher. How is this done?

Thanks

Vito







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] leak in clothes washer

eric freedman
 

Vito,

If your washer is anything like mine, there are a few polished bolts on the
sides of the washer cabinet.

By removing these few bolts the whole cabinet comes away from the washer and
is very easy to move or remove.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] leak in clotheswasher



Hello everyone

I have a 2000 SM# 283 with Thomson washer/drier

I have notied a slight leak in my clothes washer drier. I believe its
from the freshwater intake but I cant be sure.

Has anyone had a similar problem. If so how did you fix it.

Has anyone had to remove the clotheswasher. How is this done?

Thanks

Vito







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leak in clotheswasher

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello everyone

I have a 2000 SM# 283 with Thomson washer/drier

I have notied a slight leak in my clothes washer drier. I believe its
from the freshwater intake but I cant be sure.

Has anyone had a similar problem. If so how did you fix it.

Has anyone had to remove the clotheswasher. How is this done?

Thanks

Vito


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu - size of battery box?

Horst Pause <horst@...>
 

Thank you for that, this is of great help



Horst - Maramu 168



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Sent: 24 April 2006 14:15
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu - size of battery box?



Battery box on Maramu hull 192 is:
Length from inside forward end to pipe block aft: 43.25"
Width: 13.5"
This is compressing the foam that is still in my battery box
on the engine room wall side.
I just changed from gel cells to 6v lead acid golf cart batteries
and am happy so far (about 1 year, live aboard). Maintenence is
minor and cost is far less. Have 6 115 AH for house bank.
Use 1 12v AGM (Lifeline) for engine and am also happy with it.
(about 3 years). Hangs on to its charge well when not used.






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Re: Maramu - size of battery box?

coatsken <goldendaze@...>
 

Battery box on Maramu hull 192 is:
Length from inside forward end to pipe block aft: 43.25"
Width: 13.5"
This is compressing the foam that is still in my battery box
on the engine room wall side.
I just changed from gel cells to 6v lead acid golf cart batteries
and am happy so far (about 1 year, live aboard). Maintenence is
minor and cost is far less. Have 6 115 AH for house bank.
Use 1 12v AGM (Lifeline) for engine and am also happy with it.
(about 3 years). Hangs on to its charge well when not used.


Maramu forestay removal

coatsken <goldendaze@...>
 

I have removed the main to paint and re rig on 1985 Maramu hull # 192.
All is apart except I am having difficulty getting the forestay out of
the furling tube. I have tied the base to a tree and have pulled on the
eye (top end) with a come-a-long up to about 800 pounds or so, (my
guess) and nothing has moved. Thinking corrosion in the tube blocking
the plastic (or nylon) spacers (the gadjets that keep the wire from
touching the inner tube wall) I have poured wd-40 and mineral spirits
down the tube. Still it won't budge. Has anyone got some experience
with this job. Maybe I am overlooking something simple
(or stupid). Need help as am afraid of hurting the furling tube and
compounding my problems.
We had hoped to sail to the Med this May/June, but will postpone until
next year as my time estimates on getting the boat ready have proven
to be somewhat naive.

Thanks,
Ken Coats & Judy Golden
SV Golden Daze
Maramu #192