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Fuel polishing

eric freedman
 

Gary,
There is nothing behind the valve except the white plastic screen.
You will need a VERY thin wrench to disconnect the shut off valve from the
fuel pipe.
We used to call that type of wrench a tappet wrench. I could only get it (as
it is metric) from McMaster Carr. I believe that our filters stay so clean
as the fuel is drawn off the bottom of the tank. Thus, you never get a
biology experiment growing in your yank- unlike US boats that have a pickup
tube and allow stuff to build up in the tank.

With careful use of a soft copper pipe as your pickup tube on the "tank
vacuum" you can get to almost all of the tank from the forward inspection
port as there are holes very low in the baffles that allow the pipe to snake
into the other chambers.

I have attached a pix of the Racor system used to pre filter the fuel.
Mine is identical to this one from Ian & Judy Jenkins amel Pen Azen.


Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:37 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Great idea Eric. I really hadn't thought of doing this my self but it
sounds rather straight
forward. Do you know if there is a stand-pipe of some sort that sticks up
inside the tank
at the bottom of the tank where the fuel outlet goes to the shut off valve?
I have been
careful with all the fuel I have put in my tank but even so I am surprised
at how little
shows up in my Racor filters and wonder if there is time bomb waiting to go
off with
retained material in the bottom of the tank.


Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Thanks, Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Judy,
The fuel polishing is very simple and can be done with a 500-turbine Racor
filter, an electric transfer pump some fuel hose and 3 feet of copper
tubing. You make a vacuum cleaner gadget with this, remove the inspection
ports and vacuum away.
We also had a 100gpm Racor filter and a 13 gpm fuel transfer pump added to
our fuel system and filter the fuel before it goes into the tank.

I have polished my tanks for the last 10 years myself.

There is also a screen at the bottom of the tank that is accessible only
by
removing the shut off valve at the bottom of the tank. It is very similar
material as the screens in the shower drains.
This is where you will get a clog and can not be cleaned by polishing the
tank.
Of course the tank has to be empty to do this.


Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite






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Fuel Polishing & tank cleaning

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

Thanks, Eric. We will probably use your process for the next time, but it
looks now like we might be somewhat rushed for time in May because of
impending business requirements. So will be happy to pay someone to handle
it for us this first time. Nice to know that it can be done simply. Thanks
for the instructions.

Judy Rouse
s/v Security
SM2 #387

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of eric
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Judy,
The fuel polishing is very simple and can be done with a 500-turbine Racor
filter, an electric transfer pump some fuel hose and 3 feet of copper
tubing. You make a vacuum cleaner gadget with this, remove the inspection
ports and vacuum away.
We also had a 100gpm Racor filter and a 13 gpm fuel transfer pump added to
our fuel system and filter the fuel before it goes into the tank.

I have polished my tanks for the last 10 years myself.

There is also a screen at the bottom of the tank that is accessible only by
removing the shut off valve at the bottom of the tank. It is very similar
material as the screens in the shower drains.
This is where you will get a clog and can not be cleaned by polishing the
tank.
Of course the tank has to be empty to do this.


Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


[Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Great idea Eric. I really hadn't thought of doing this my self but it sounds rather straight
forward. Do you know if there is a stand-pipe of some sort that sticks up inside the tank
at the bottom of the tank where the fuel outlet goes to the shut off valve? I have been
careful with all the fuel I have put in my tank but even so I am surprised at how little
shows up in my Racor filters and wonder if there is time bomb waiting to go off with
retained material in the bottom of the tank.

Thanks, Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Judy,
The fuel polishing is very simple and can be done with a 500-turbine Racor
filter, an electric transfer pump some fuel hose and 3 feet of copper
tubing. You make a vacuum cleaner gadget with this, remove the inspection
ports and vacuum away.
We also had a 100gpm Racor filter and a 13 gpm fuel transfer pump added to
our fuel system and filter the fuel before it goes into the tank.

I have polished my tanks for the last 10 years myself.

There is also a screen at the bottom of the tank that is accessible only by
removing the shut off valve at the bottom of the tank. It is very similar
material as the screens in the shower drains.
This is where you will get a clog and can not be cleaned by polishing the
tank.
Of course the tank has to be empty to do this.


Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Fuel polishing and fuel tank cleaning

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

Thanks very much, Gary. Will call him tomorrow. Also glad to hear that
your boat is there now. I had looked up info on Manuel Reef Marina and it
states that the maximum draft in their slips is 6'6" so wasn't sure if an
Amel would fit in there. Great info. Most helpful.

Judy Rouse
s/v Security
SM2 #387

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:20 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...> wrote:

Jim Woods of Woods Marine Services at the Manuel Reef Marina in Sea Cow
Bay, Tortola
has this capability. His equipment appears to be state of the art. I've
seen it used on
several boats there. Jim's phone is 284 495-2066 and FAX 284 495-1431. My
boat is in
a slip at this marina currently.

Gary Silver s/v Liahona


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

eric freedman
 

Judy,
The fuel polishing is very simple and can be done with a 500-turbine Racor
filter, an electric transfer pump some fuel hose and 3 feet of copper
tubing. You make a vacuum cleaner gadget with this, remove the inspection
ports and vacuum away.
We also had a 100gpm Racor filter and a 13 gpm fuel transfer pump added to
our fuel system and filter the fuel before it goes into the tank.

I have polished my tanks for the last 10 years myself.

There is also a screen at the bottom of the tank that is accessible only by
removing the shut off valve at the bottom of the tank. It is very similar
material as the screens in the shower drains.
This is where you will get a clog and can not be cleaned by polishing the
tank.
Of course the tank has to be empty to do this.


Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:45 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Tony,

Did you have the fuel tank cleaned and fuel polished in BVI or elsewhere?
Our boat is also currently lying in BVI and we would like to do the same.

We won't be back down there until May. Will try to stop by Trellis Bay &
share that Sundowner and conversation before we head south.

Thanks,


Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387



-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine down
only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in a
few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI, and
any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266





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Re: Speed vs. RPM

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...> wrote:

Jim Woods of Woods Marine Services at the Manuel Reef Marina in Sea Cow Bay, Tortola
has this capability. His equipment appears to be state of the art. I've seen it used on
several boats there. Jim's phone is 284 495-2066 and FAX 284 495-1431. My boat is in
a slip at this marina currently.

Gary Silver s/v Liahona

Judy the fuel was done in Ft. Lauderdale. However there is a fellow
at Manuel Reef Marina (Sea Cows Bay, right near Nanny Cay) that does
the same thing. Can't remember his name but he is the manager of
the marina.

We hope to see you in Trellis!!!! We are easy to find as we are the
scond to the farthest out!! And , but of course, an Amel!!

Tony


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@>
wrote:

Tony,

Did you have the fuel tank cleaned and fuel polished in BVI or
elsewhere?
Our boat is also currently lying in BVI and we would like to do
the same.

We won't be back down there until May. Will try to stop by
Trellis Bay &
share that Sundowner and conversation before we head south.

Thanks,


Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387



-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine
down
only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in
a
few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI,
and
any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

eric freedman
 

The manager of Manuel reef marina is Jim Woods,
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM


Judy the fuel was done in Ft. Lauderdale. However there is a fellow
at Manuel Reef Marina (Sea Cows Bay, right near Nanny Cay) that does
the same thing. Can't remember his name but he is the manager of
the marina.

We hope to see you in Trellis!!!! We are easy to find as we are the
scond to the farthest out!! And , but of course, an Amel!!

Tony


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@...>
wrote:

Tony,

Did you have the fuel tank cleaned and fuel polished in BVI or
elsewhere?
Our boat is also currently lying in BVI and we would like to do
the same.

We won't be back down there until May. Will try to stop by
Trellis Bay &
share that Sundowner and conversation before we head south.

Thanks,


Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387



-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine
down
only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in
a
few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI,
and
any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266







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Amel 54 pictures

David <dlm48@...>
 

hi,

just posted some pics of the Amel 54 pics i took at last years
Southampton Boat Show

these are small pics if anyone wants/needs the big versions contact me
directly

regards

David


Re: Speed vs. RPM

Ag Av8ter
 

Judy the fuel was done in Ft. Lauderdale. However there is a fellow
at Manuel Reef Marina (Sea Cows Bay, right near Nanny Cay) that does
the same thing. Can't remember his name but he is the manager of
the marina.

We hope to see you in Trellis!!!! We are easy to find as we are the
scond to the farthest out!! And , but of course, an Amel!!

Tony


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Rouse" <judyrouse@...>
wrote:

Tony,

Did you have the fuel tank cleaned and fuel polished in BVI or
elsewhere?
Our boat is also currently lying in BVI and we would like to do
the same.

We won't be back down there until May. Will try to stop by
Trellis Bay &
share that Sundowner and conversation before we head south.

Thanks,


Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387



-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine
down
only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in
a
few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI,
and
any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266


Re: Speed vs. RPM

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

Tony,

Did you have the fuel tank cleaned and fuel polished in BVI or elsewhere?
Our boat is also currently lying in BVI and we would like to do the same.

We won't be back down there until May. Will try to stop by Trellis Bay &
share that Sundowner and conversation before we head south.

Thanks,


Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of agav8ter
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 4:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Speed vs. RPM

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine down
only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in a
few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI, and
any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266


Re: Speed vs. RPM

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello Gary,

What a good idea! Of course I would start bt reaing the engine down
only to fine the fuel shut off valve half closed!!! I am in
Paramaribo, Suriname at the moment, but will return to Tortola in a
few days, and will certainly check it out. I did have the tank
cleaned and fuel polished right after I bought the boat, so your
suggestion would be an easy fix!

BTW: WORLD CITIZEN is on a mooring at Trellis Bay, Tortola BVI, and
any Amel's are certainly welcome to stop by for a Sundowner and
conversation. We should be there for quite sometime.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN SM#266

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@>
wrote:
Tony:
This is a simple thing but once when I couldn't get adequate RPM
from my Yanmar (SM
Hull # 335), and after I checked everything else I found that the
fuel shut off valve had
been bumped and was slightly restrictive of fuel flow. Have you
checked to make sure you
don't have excess fuel suction? Other things would be restricted
fuel filters etc. The
engine would start and run fine but just wouldn't develope full
RPM (power).

Just my two cents worth.

Gary Silver

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266
has the
Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins,
we were
told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop
itself is
clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The
blades
rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts
wide
open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual
says it
should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at
2,200
RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation
for a
SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs
at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony


Re: Speed vs. RPM

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...> wrote:
Tony:
This is a simple thing but once when I couldn't get adequate RPM from my Yanmar (SM
Hull # 335), and after I checked everything else I found that the fuel shut off valve had
been bumped and was slightly restrictive of fuel flow. Have you checked to make sure you
don't have excess fuel suction? Other things would be restricted fuel filters etc. The
engine would start and run fine but just wouldn't develope full RPM (power).

Just my two cents worth.

Gary Silver

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266 has the
Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins, we were
told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop itself is
clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The blades
rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts wide
open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual says it
should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at 2,200
RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation for a
SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony


Re: Speed vs. RPM

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Tony

If you go trough the archives of this site you will see that the low
RPM problem is almost exclusively caused by carbon built up in the
turbo. The side of the turbo that this accurs is on the side by the
heat exchange and muffler. I remember reading a post that explains
the process of cleaning the turbo. I have had 2 Super Maramus with
this engine and both times it was the turbo.

Good luck

Vito

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello Vito,

Thanks for the reply. I was hoping that it was in the prop, as I
removed the ducting from the intake side of the turbo (this was
when
I was first looking at her) and was able to rotate the turbine
drive
wheel easily. That is where I would expect the carbon deposits,
not
in the actual compressor side. Do you agree? When I went to the
Volvo manual it said that at the operating RPM I am gettng the
engine is only putting out 33HP. (This from memory so my numbers
might be off a bit. I am in Suriname right now and the boat in the
BVI) I also checcked to see if the wastegate valve was stuck, and
it appears to be working correctly.

I do appreciate you reply and any others you might suggest. This
board is a wealth of info!!!! I can't wait to have my wife read
about how to repaint the stripes on the decks!!!!!

Tony

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, asm283 <no_reply@> wrote:

Hello Tony

This is not an uncommon accurence on the Volvo 80hp. What you
need
done is to have the turbo charger removed and have the carbon
inside
the turbo removed. This is not a big deal so dont let your
mechanic
make it one. What happens is that carbon deposits built up
inside
the turbo housing and stop the turbo from rotating. Thus the
reduction in power. Once this is done and all things being clean
you
should be able to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and have a speed of
about
8.5 knots.

Hope this helps

Vito

WANDERER ASM#283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@>
wrote:

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266
has
the
Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins,
we
were
told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop
itself
is
clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The
blades
rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5
kts
wide
open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual
says
it
should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds,
at
2,200
RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical
situation
for a
SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and
runs
at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony


Re: Speed vs. RPM

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello Vito,

Thanks for the reply. I was hoping that it was in the prop, as I
removed the ducting from the intake side of the turbo (this was when
I was first looking at her) and was able to rotate the turbine drive
wheel easily. That is where I would expect the carbon deposits, not
in the actual compressor side. Do you agree? When I went to the
Volvo manual it said that at the operating RPM I am gettng the
engine is only putting out 33HP. (This from memory so my numbers
might be off a bit. I am in Suriname right now and the boat in the
BVI) I also checcked to see if the wastegate valve was stuck, and
it appears to be working correctly.

I do appreciate you reply and any others you might suggest. This
board is a wealth of info!!!! I can't wait to have my wife read
about how to repaint the stripes on the decks!!!!!

Tony

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, asm283 <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hello Tony

This is not an uncommon accurence on the Volvo 80hp. What you need
done is to have the turbo charger removed and have the carbon
inside
the turbo removed. This is not a big deal so dont let your
mechanic
make it one. What happens is that carbon deposits built up inside
the turbo housing and stop the turbo from rotating. Thus the
reduction in power. Once this is done and all things being clean
you
should be able to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and have a speed of
about
8.5 knots.

Hope this helps

Vito

WANDERER ASM#283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@>
wrote:

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266
has
the
Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins,
we
were
told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop
itself
is
clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The
blades
rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts
wide
open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual
says
it
should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at
2,200
RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation
for a
SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs
at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Eric:

Peter Grimm's Company is Super Sailmakers, of Ft. Lauderdale. He is who Joel
recommended to me. He has built lots of 110% Jibs for Amel SMs. His phone is 954
522-4663.

They call the 110% a "Carribean Blaster". It is 502 square feet, of 9.5 oz low aspect
Dacron and has a foam luff with a UV boarder. You need 135 ft of sheet. Peter
recommended 1/2 inch line for the sheets and I have found that 1/2 inch is a little too
small for our jib sheet winches. I have to put at least 5 turns on to prevent slippage.

I purchased the sail last year and the price was $ 2,684 USD with Joel's referral discount. I
had a chance to use it for the first time last month in the BVI. What a great sail. I find I
can point about 5 to 8 degrees higher (about 45 degrees), have speeds that match the
Gateff 155% and it seems to be more foregiving of poor trimming. I am very impressed.
Of course I was sailing in 15-25 knots of wind the whole time but I could sail completely
un-furled where I would have had the 155% furled up during most of that last trip.

Sorry to butt into your thread but I am so impressed with this sail that I couldn't resist.

Regards, Gary Silver s/v Liahona Hull # 335> John,
Nice speaking to you yesterday.
Were you able to find the name of the sail maker in Ft Lauderdale that made
your 110?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: Speed vs. RPM

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Tony

This is not an uncommon accurence on the Volvo 80hp. What you need
done is to have the turbo charger removed and have the carbon inside
the turbo removed. This is not a big deal so dont let your mechanic
make it one. What happens is that carbon deposits built up inside
the turbo housing and stop the turbo from rotating. Thus the
reduction in power. Once this is done and all things being clean you
should be able to run at 2700 to 2800 RPM and have a speed of about
8.5 knots.

Hope this helps

Vito

WANDERER ASM#283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "agav8ter" <agav8ter@...>
wrote:

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266 has
the
Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins, we
were
told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop itself
is
clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The
blades
rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts
wide
open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual says
it
should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at
2,200
RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation
for a
SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony


Speed vs. RPM

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello all,
We have a S/M #266 and it is fairly new to us. Question: #266 has the
Volvo engine that has a sticker on it saying built by Perkins, we were
told it is 80hp. We also have the Amel autoprop. The prop itself is
clean and the roller bearings that are visable are clean. The blades
rotate easily. When in calm water she will run at about 7.5 kts wide
open, but she will only turn up 2,200 RPM. The Volvo manual says it
should turn up over 4000 RPM. In rough water and head winds, at 2,200
RPM we are lucky to get 3 to 4 kts. Is this a typical situation for a
SM? Sure seems overpitched. Does not make much smoke and runs at
90C. Ideas? Thanks for your help. Tony


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures

eric freedman
 

John,
Nice speaking to you yesterday.
Were you able to find the name of the sail maker in Ft Lauderdale that made
your 110?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL MARAMU GROUNDING SYSTEM

Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
 

Hi Dennis

In the Perkins at least, the heat exchanger has its own zinc which should be changed each year as a service item. Low down at the aft end of the exchanger and quite accessible is a normal looking bolt which, if you unscrew it will look just a like a flat plug, because the zinc, a tube shape of a few centimetres length, will have worn away. Take the plug to a good chandlery and you should find a replacement easily. I believe there is also an exchangeable zinc plug for the water heater but not on my boat.

Regards, Roger, Zorba, Mango 28

On 03/03/2006, at 11:26 PM, DENNIS STULLER wrote:

HI ROGER,

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION. I SOMETIMES FEEL THAT I
KNOW MORE ABOUT BOAT GROUNDING SYSTEMS THAN I
UNDERSTAND. IN MY CASE THE PROPELLOR SHAFT IS NOT
INSULATED AND IT APPEARS THAT I HAVE SOME CORROSION
PROBLEMS AS EVIDENCED AT THE TRANSMISSION COOLER AND
ENGINE HEAT EXCHANGER. I AM GOING TO DIG DEEPER AND
CHECK CONNECTEDNESS AND CONDUCTIVITY OF THE SYSTEM. I
WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT I FIND.

REGARDS, DENNIS STULLER MARAMU #186


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] AMEL MARAMU GROUNDING SYSTEM

Eric Lindholm
 

Dennis if you are having problems with your heat exchanger, the remedy will probably have nothing to do with the rest of your bonding system. The connection of the heat exchanger to your external zinc, or the conductivity of the water lines coming in and out of the exchanger, are not the issue or the problem. The heat exchanger needs its own protection separate from the rest of the metal fittings on your boat. The metal in the exchanger, and the water around it, create their own problem. A battery of sorts. The exchanger needs its own internal zinc plug. Connecting the heat exchanger and or the engine to the bonding system does nothing. Roger has given a good recap of the various theories and applications. I believe that it is better to connect everything together. More is better. The whole idea behind the connection of all the metal parts is to equalize the conductivity between each of them, and then attach the same bonding cable to the zinc which is lower on the galvanic scale so
it corrodes. Only those parts which are exposed to the same body of water are protected by the zinc which they are connected to. That is why your exchanger needs a separate system. So would your water pump, transmission cooler, etc, but you can only do so much. Connecting everything only works if there is no stray current coming from other sources. Maybe there was a problem with stray 12 volt current coming from your engine, which was causing a problem, so a previous owner severed the bonding ground to eliminate it rather than addressing the problem that was causing it. The same is true with the dockside power. Another boats electrical problems can be transferred to your boat through the ground wire in the power cord, causing your boat to become its zinc. A power cord that has dipped into the water for a period of time can get saturated with water inside and current will cross over from the hot wire to the ground. You can also get a salt bridge just inside the plug on the dock cord
from exposure to the air alone. I personally studied bonding systems intensively and although I learned a lot of theories, it is clear that the application is part science, part myth, and part luck. I think every boat has its own issues, and needs a system tailored to it. Some boats have no problem connecting the bonding system to the ac ground, some do. I think you just have to take in a much info as you can, make your own choices, and then monitor it as best you can. Eric maramu 105

DENNIS STULLER <svcheechako@yahoo.com> wrote: HI ROGER,

THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION. I SOMETIMES FEEL THAT I
KNOW MORE ABOUT BOAT GROUNDING SYSTEMS THAN I
UNDERSTAND. IN MY CASE THE PROPELLOR SHAFT IS NOT
INSULATED AND IT APPEARS THAT I HAVE SOME CORROSION
PROBLEMS AS EVIDENCED AT THE TRANSMISSION COOLER AND
ENGINE HEAT EXCHANGER. I AM GOING TO DIG DEEPER AND
CHECK CONNECTEDNESS AND CONDUCTIVITY OF THE SYSTEM. I
WILL LET EVERYONE KNOW WHAT I FIND.

REGARDS, DENNIS STULLER MARAMU #186


--- Roger Banks <roger.banks@mac.com> wrote:

Hi Dennis

Yes, I've spent quite a bit of time looking at the
grounding systems
and there a few good articles in magazines and on
the internet, but
some how they never quite get down to specifics of
every situation.
There are four grounds which need to be kept
separate, subject to
certain approved interactions: AC, DC, HF, and
lightning. Regarding
the DC ground, which is the subject of your enquiry,
the logic not
many years ago was to connect together every metal
thru-hull, which
Amel have done elegantly with the grounding bus you
describe, which
connects to the zinc anodes mounted either side of
the rudder (at
least it's so on my Mango); this system still holds
good if you spend
your whole time in remote anchorages, but entering a
modern marina
exposes your boat to stray electrical currents from
and between other
boats (DC) and pontoon services (AC). This can set
up a galvanic
corrosion reaction, in which the current enters by
one thru-hull and
exits by another, taking with it some metal. This is
also a problem
where two or more metals are in contact in an
electrolyte, e.g. sea
water.

Therefore the common wisdom has altered since your
boat was built to
say that thru-hulls should not be linked together.
Bronze thru-hulls,
such as for toilet water intakes below the water
line, are considered
stable and may happily be left alone, i.e. not
connected via a strap
to any other thru-hull which would expose it to the
corrosion effects
described above.

There are some situations where connection is
unavoidable, such as
stainless steel (itself an alloy) prop shaft mounted
in bronze tube
and with copper propellor. It's essential to ensure
the grounding bus
is connected to both the prop shaft and its mounting
tube which, as I
recall, is visible inside the engine room, between
the engine and
stern gland. If you look further you will find that
the engine water
intake cock is connected by water to the raw water
manifold and to
the engine itself and, if I observe it correctly, to
the diesel
supply system via that fluid and to the fresh water
heater. Some of
the bus gets pretty inaccessible in these places.
I'm not 100% sure
of the electrical connectivity via fluids of some of
these items and
would be glad of contributions by others. It seems
to me that whether
the engine etc should be connected to the grounding
strap, and thus
the zinc anodes, is a question if there is more than
one connection
to the sea water, i.e. via the raw water intake and
what else? I
believe the prop shaft is isolated from the engine
by a flexible
coupling. The exhaust water exits above the water
line (as do all
basins and toilet water exit points), so does not
count. Thus if the
only connection point between the engine and sea
water is the raw
water inlet, it may be correct that the ground strap
was severed.

If your model of Maramu has a ground strap
connection to a keel bolt,
unlike my Mango where the rudder anodes are the
single point of
protection, then you may need to restore the
connection and make sure
the keel bolt is protected by an anode, but it may
be your analysis
of this is not correct.

Regards, Roger, Zorba, Mango 28


On 02/03/2006, at 1:15 PM, DENNIS STULLER wrote:


HAS ANYONE DELVED DEEPLY INTO THE AMEL GROUNDING
SYSTEM? IN THE
PROCESS OF CLEANING UP THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT ON
MY 1985 MARAMU HULL
#186 I HAVE FOUND THAT THE GROUND STRAP BETWEEN
THE ENGINE AND THE
GROUND BUS HAS BEEN SEVERED, APPARENTLY ON
PURPOSE. ALSO WHERE THE
GROUNDING BUSS PASSES IN FRONT OF THE ENGINE, IT
APPEARS AS IF THE
BUSS ORIGINALLY WAS EXTENED DOWN INTO THE BILGE
AND WAS BOLTED TO THE
KEEL BOLT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BILGE. THIS MAKES
SOME SENSE, BUT ON MY
BOAT BOTH CONNECTIONS ARE SEVERED.

THANKS, DENNIS STULLER MARAMU #186 "CHEECHAKO"






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