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Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Mark McGovern
 

Karen,

That sure is much different than the elbow on my Onan MDKAV 7kW.  Mine looks much more like the one from Nikimat's MDKAL.  If you do end up replacing yours with a new one, let me know.  I will happily take the old one off your hands to make a jig and will give you a brand new one in return as a spare/replacement.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Freshwater pump

Gary Wells
 
Edited

Parmax 4 24v 40psi has performed perfectly for us for 5+ years now.

I think the previous owner had a 25psi model in there when we took over the boat and it was OK, but the 40psi has plenty of reserve for two showers concurrently.

I am not sure how I feel about 55psi except that if it isn't specifically necessary I wouldn't stress all the fittings and clamps to that degree. 

Well .. 2 cents worth :)

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Annapolis, MD


Re: Headsail furler issues

Craig Briggs
 

That's interesting, Adam.
On the SN the wires make "home runs" to the motors (furler or windlass) with no splice in a junction box, a far better arrangement (and typically "code"). When you redo this can you run a single wire from the solenoid to the motor, just using the junction box as an intermediate place to pull the single wires through, without putting in splices? I think that would give a far better installation.
Craig 


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Thanks Mike,

I have sent an email off to Bill.

Have fun in the Seychelles.

Ross and Donna
INTREPID KIWI

On Tuesday, October 22, 2019, 9:02 AM, Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...> wrote:

Dear Ross,

I’m in Seychelles at the moment and don’t have the dimensions on my system here.

Bill Rouse uploaded the a file with dimensions and pictures.  If you contact him directly he will be able to assist.  We found that his solution with the thicker copper bar was robust and worked well.  Metelec delivered the bar bent and drilled as specified.  We drilled the holes for connection wires once the copper bar was installed.

Regards

Mike & Peta

Solitude
SM2K 461




On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:32 PM +0400, "Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

Kind Regards

Ross 
SM2K #386


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
A-54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Mike Johnson
 

Dear Ross,

I’m in Seychelles at the moment and don’t have the dimensions on my system here.

Bill Rouse uploaded the a file with dimensions and pictures.  If you contact him directly he will be able to assist.  We found that his solution with the thicker copper bar was robust and worked well.  Metelec delivered the bar bent and drilled as specified.  We drilled the holes for connection wires once the copper bar was installed.

Regards

Mike & Peta

Solitude
SM2K 461




On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 11:32 PM +0400, "Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Hi Mike,

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

Kind Regards

Ross 
SM2K #386


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
A-54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As


Re: Headsail furler issues

Adam Body
 

An update on the headsail furler. The problem was a burnt out wire.  The wire in question carried the current from one (FOC in) of the four solenoids (two for the FOC/Jib, two for the anchor winch) located in the forward port locker of the forward berth. The wire passes through conduits forward to the port bow deck compartment where there is a junction box. This is where the wire was burnt out. The insulation on the wire was cracked and the copper wires had corroded and gradually broke down as the remaining wires were required to carry the current, until they simply burnt out. Hopefully this experience will be helpful to others.   
--
Adam Body "Flora"   SM128 Annee 1994


Re: Freshwater pump

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hi Eric,
We've had good luck with the Jabsco Parmax Plus 4. 24v. $140. Good pressure won't strain the plumbing. 

Chuck 
Joy #388

On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 8:59 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:


---------- Original Message ----------
From: eric <kimberlite@...>
To: Amel Owners <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Date: October 21, 2019 at 9:58 PM
Subject: Freshwater pump

I was thinking of changing out my original fresh water pump for a Sureflo Aqua King.My only concern is that the shutoff pressure is 55 PSI, 3.8 Bar.It is an on demand pump and puts out 18 liters per minute.

Has anyone installed this pump ? 

The pressure can be reduced however, I do not know how low it will go.

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


 


Freshwater pump

eric freedman
 


---------- Original Message ----------
From: eric <kimberlite@...>
To: Amel Owners <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Date: October 21, 2019 at 9:58 PM
Subject: Freshwater pump

I was thinking of changing out my original fresh water pump for a Sureflo Aqua King.My only concern is that the shutoff pressure is 55 PSI, 3.8 Bar.It is an on demand pump and puts out 18 liters per minute.

Has anyone installed this pump ? 

The pressure can be reduced however, I do not know how low it will go.

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


 


Freshwater pump

eric freedman
 

I was thinking of changing out my original fresh water pump for a Sureflo Aqua King.My only concern is that the shutoff pressure is 55 PSI, 3.8 Bar.It is an on demand pump and puts out 18 liters per minute.

Has anyone installed this pump ? 

The pressure can be reduced however, I do not know how low it will go.

Fair Winds,

Eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Karen Smith
 

Mark,

Based on your hull number, and the pictures of your exhaust elbow, I am guessing you have one of the newer, bigger gensets.  I think that one is available as an OEM for ~$500

Ours (from a 6.5kW MDKD) looks rather different, the flange is basically the entire back end of the exhaust manifold, and incorporates the line carrying coolant to the raw water heat exchanger.



Part Number and Drawing of Rack and Pinon steering

eric freedman
 

Hi,

Attached please find the art number and page for the rack steering

Fair Winds,

eric

SM 376 Kimberlite


Re: Electric heads on Supermaramu

eric freedman
 

Hi Ian,
I saw your post and thought I should have a spare base as they do tend to break. Sooo I ordered one from Amazon. I left my office to go to kimberlite and looked in my pump locker area for something else and lo and behold I have a brand new one in the box. Tomorrow I will have 2. Would you like me to FedEx it to you or shall I return it to Amazon?
You can send me an answer to Kimberlite.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite

On October 21, 2019 at 8:22 AM "ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...>" <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Hi all,

We have a rather selfish approach to guests, namely that we most enjoy their company when they stay ashore in an AirBnB and come day sailing.  Occasionally we bend this rule . Alas, one of our good friends has become very large with age  and after his recent spell on board  the base of  one of our 19 year old  WCs has suffered terminal damage.

 We were really sceptical when our Amel came with electric heads but they have proved more reliable and needing less maintenance than any manual heads we have had in the past.

 The damage suffered is cracking of the base around the bolts which hold it to the floor. Unfortunately, Jabsco no longer make the Base Assembly Part No: 37004-1000 ( at least, it is no longer available in the UK).
The replacement, needless to say, has bolt holes in different places to the original. Other than that, it seems that it works as a replacement.

Has anyone experience  of replacing these heads ? When you remove the old base, what is underneath it? Is there a hole which allows you to gain sufficient access to fix in place the nuts to which the new base is bolted ?  Is some form of reinforcement needed to the floor ? How to fix the nuts so that they stay in place ?

I had though of trying to reinforce the cracks and continue to use the existing base, but there is little material to work on and I suspect that would prove a short term solution.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 ,Kilada,Greece



 

 


Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Mark, 


Please note on NIKIMAT was the Onan MDKAL

I don’t know if there is a difference with the MDKD mentioned. 


I would check the part number.  

On the MDKAL the exhaust mixing elbow was part: PN 155-3261-02 (E086) and I paid $475 for my spare

http://nikimat.com/spare_parts_ONAN_MDKAL_B_Specs_12_volt.html

(scroll, almost at the bottom).  


Sincerely, Alexandre



On Monday, October 21, 2019, 06:32:02 PM UTC, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:


Karen,

I stand corrected!  It looks like that there is a small water jacket in the Onan Exhaust elbow after all.  Here is a picture that I found looking down the the back side of one on Alex from Nikimat's website:



http://www.nikimat.com/parts_for_sale/onan_155_3261_02_mixer_elbow_exhaust_manifold.html

It is a relatively simple part to fabricate. I will take mine off after we winterize the boat in the next few weeks and have a closer look at making a replacement from 316 Stainless.

Mark
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Electric heads on Supermaramu

karkauai
 

I had the same problem Ian.  I did a “temporary” fix with a piece of 1/2” Starboard shaped to span the holes where the break is.  To complicate matters further, one of the bolts was seized to the mild steel backing plate and I broke the head off trying to get it out.  The backing plate is quite a bit below the surface, and drilling it out left a hole that was impossible to rethread.  I used a Mr Toggle bolt which leaves a reusable female thread below the old backing plate.  It has held up beautifully for ~4 years...we’ll, maybe not aesthetically, but pretty is as pretty does.



Kent & Iris
Kristy SM 243
karkauai@...
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 21, 2019, at 12:55 PM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

Mark
Well I have not yet bought the new head just decided, that is probably the best option. The reason for the inspection hatch was to get access to the bolt heads below the surface as one of the holes was "enlarged" and had no thread. But to no good for this time as the hole to fasten the head was down into a hollow beam so no access, but next time it will be easy to attache the new head with the hatch in place.
Paul


Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Paul Osterberg
 

My Onan exhaust manifold looked as on the picture above, blocked with carbon. I cleaned it in place on the Onan a rather uncomfortable tasks. Is there any benefit to remove the manifold? do one get access to the interior to clean out more carbon deposit? Or does it only give a lot of job to remove it looks a bit corroded? first time I loosen the elbow,, one of the bolts holding it broke of and I had some job to get it out, do not fancy that kind of job very much
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259 Lagos, Portugal
  


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Olaf Bauer
 

Hello all,

 

We used the copper ground trap from the company Druseidt in Remscheid, Germany. It costs around EUR 45 and it is protected by a PVC overmoulding and the copper strap ends strengthened with copper shells (see attached pic).

 

My last  order is also attached if someone would like to order.

 

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently in Trinidad

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 3:35 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I had copied from an earlier post from Bills photo album I believe.

 

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io <southernadventurer@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 3:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

Hi Mike,

 

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

 

Kind Regards

 

Ross 

SM2K #386


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

 

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

 

Thanks,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Randall
 

I had copied from an earlier post from Bills photo album I believe.

Randall
A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io <southernadventurer@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 3:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 
Hi Mike,

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

Kind Regards

Ross 
SM2K #386


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
A-54 #56

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


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Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for supplying the details of metelec. We are keen to replace our strap. Are you able to supply the dimensions and drawing that you forwarded to metelec when you had your copper strap manufactured.

Kind Regards

Ross 

On Monday, October 21, 2019, 4:49 PM, Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

Mike,

That is so funny I have just sent them an email to have one shipped to me hear in Spain. Just seconds ago.

Thanks,
Randall
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Johnson via Groups.Io <mike.k.johnson@...>
Sent: October 21, 2019 10:37 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
 

We used www.metelec.co.uk and sent Bill’s dimensions with a drawing and they produced a perfect replacement delivered promptly.

 

The key to a successful job was a ‘deep’ socket for the nut at the bottom of the bilge.

 

Mike & Peta

 

Solitude

 

SM2K 461

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Randall Walker
Sent: 20 October 2019 21:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I am sitting south of Barcelona. One group member put me onto a German supplier, a former AMEL owner is trying to source it out of Britain and I have been told AMEL does still have them.

Glad I joined this group.

And Bill I agree that the original are way too thin.

 

I love my boat,

Randall

A-54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: October 20, 2019 3:34 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

This is the one and only time that I will say that the Amel OEM part is not the best part.

 

Amel uses a thin copper foil for the bonding strap inside the gray water bilge. In terms of electrical conductivity, it is perfect. In terms of durability it is not good enough. The gray PVC float switch tube sits on top of the copper foil and will wear through the copper foil in a few years. If you buy the Amel OEM copper foil, I suggest you buy 2 because you will likely need to replace it again in a few years. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 1:34 PM Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...> wrote:

That is awesome Robin.

I will be onto it in the morning.

 

All the best,

Randall


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 2:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I think it was around 90 euros — just tell them the bonding strap for the bilge of a SM — they will know what it is.

It was easy to get to the cables but was a problem to loosen the nut on the keelbolt as we needed a special high tool (30 mm) as the boöt was to high for a normal one.

 

Robin 

Amel 54 # 54

Carré d‘As


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für iPad

Am Sonntag, Oktober 20, 2019, 19:20 schrieb Randall Walker <lladnarowen@...>:

Thanks Robin,

 

Did you have an part order # for the strap. I'm in Spain and you would think copper is gold down here. I just cant find a supplier.

I am looking at doing the mast step as well. Eight hours you say, were the wires easy to get at?

 

Thanks again,

Randall

54 #56


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of robin hutter via Groups.Io <robin6658=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: October 20, 2019 7:57 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge

 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

 

Robin

Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara

Carré d‘As


Polytrol Marine Coating

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Greetings All,

There was some discussion of this product a while back. Does anyone know if this can be had in Trinidad. There are no Caribbean distributers officially. 

Thank you in advance. 

Chuck 

Joy #388


Re: Onan MDKD 6.5kW genset exhaust elbow

Mark McGovern
 

Karen,

I stand corrected!  It looks like that there is a small water jacket in the Onan Exhaust elbow after all.  Here is a picture that I found looking down the the back side of one on Alex from Nikimat's website:



http://www.nikimat.com/parts_for_sale/onan_155_3261_02_mixer_elbow_exhaust_manifold.html

It is a relatively simple part to fabricate. I will take mine off after we winterize the boat in the next few weeks and have a closer look at making a replacement from 316 Stainless.

Mark
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA