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Re: some questions--sailing among coral reef atolls

Zanareva
 

Mark,

My wife and I cruised thru the South Pacific from 1985 thru 1987
(not on our Amel but our first sailboat which was a 37' Searunner
trimaran). I believe that to navigate successfully among the coral
heads you'll have to rely mainly on your eyeballs. Since the waters
will be very clear, getting a bit aloft in the rig would be great.
Here are also a couple of other points to consider:
1. Have polarized sunglasses on to help see thru the glare of the
water surface.
2. Time your entrance thru the reef pass so that the sun is high
overhead, or even better, when the sun is bit behind you. Also
applies to traveling inside the lagoons.
3. Glassly or calm seas make it pretty hard to see what's below the
surface.
4. Atolls with passes on their east side may be especially dangerous
due to the unimpeded ocean swells hitting the outgoing tidal stream.
You may want to pick the islands/atolls that have entrances on the
northern or western side for an easier go. For example, Raiora in
the Tuamotus was easy as was Suvarov in the Cooks.
5. Time your entrance with the tide to minimize the ebb current flow
you'll be fighting at the pass. I don't think many (if any) atolls
have flood tides--just varying strengths of ebb tides.
6. Remember that if the water ahead of you is brownish (it's a coral
head) then expect to see less than 3 feet of water.
7. I have uploaded in the FILES section an article from an old Ocean
Navigator that covers coral reef navigation.

We saw no shortage of wind anywhere in the Pacific (other than off
the Mexican mainland coast in winter). I don't think you'll have to
worry about motoring across!

Best regards,
Richard Tate
SM#5 "Spice"


Re: some questions

edmund_steele
 

Mark,
My wife and I used an improvised rope ladder attached to the
starboard shrouds, to enable the reef watcher to stand on the
reinforcing bar for the bracket that holds the ballooner poles. This
worked reasonably well and gets the watcher 8 feet or so above the
deck.

I was concerned about reports that it might be necessary to motor
from Panama to Galapagos and decided to carry an extra 100 gallons of
diesel in 20 of 5 gallon "Jerry" jugs. They were cheap to buy from
West Marine. We initially stowed 8 jugs in the stern locker with 12
lashed on deck – 6 on each side at the stern. We never did need all
of this fuel and gave away 8 of the jugs in the Marquise Islands. We
now typically stow 10 jugs in the stern locker with two on deck and
we throw these two into the stern locker as soon as they are emptied.
Most refueling in the South Pacific was by dinghy and Jerry Jug -
making bladder use problematic. We found that 5 gallon Jugs are
reasonably easy to handle in and out of a dinghy by one person. Two
additional advantages are 1) you can see what quantity of fuel you
are receiving (the Jugs are marked in both gallons and liters)
instead of trusting the supplier and 2) You can filter every drop of
fuel going into the main tank. If you purchase the large size Baja
filter from West Marine, it fits exactly into the fuel filler on the
SM and rests stably on the mizzen deck. We found it very simple to
refuel at sea by sitting on the starboard cockpit bench and pouring
the fuel directly into the Baja filter with the Jerry jug held in the
lap. No siphons etc. No spilled fuel. Refuel in a seaway.
Ed Steele
S/V DoodleBug SM#331

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@b...>
wrote:

In preparing my ASM for a multi-year voyage next year, I am hoping
that other owners can offer me advice on a number of issues:

1. My wife an I will need to look out for coral heads when entering
South Pacific islands. What is the best way to get a few feet above
the deck in order to have better visibility? Are mast steps up 10
feet or so a good way to get the needed visibility? Do foldable
mast
steps pose any structural or safety issue with the Amel main mast?
Are rat lines a good option?

2. Another way to spot coral heads is to install sonar. The
transducers seem very large for most forward looking sonars such as
EchoPilot and Interphase? What do these transducer do to sailing
performance on the Amel Super Maramu? Are the sonars practically
useful for finding one's way in coral fringed islands?

3. I would like to add some fuel capacity for ocean crossing. I am
thinking about strapping a 100 gallon bladder tank to the roof aft
of
the mizzen. Once across the ocean, I would roll the tank up and
store
it in a locker. Has anyone had any experience with bladder tanks
(such as those made by ATL or Nauta)? Is there some reason that
this
would be a bad idea? Would there ne a lot of fuel sloshing noise?

4. Has anyone used AGM batteries in an ASM? Is there any issue
with
charge regulation with AGMs in a newer (2003) ASM?

Mark
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bridge Clearance - Nassau harbour

erik ortel
 

No problem, just passed through earlier this month

rbenven44 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: Hi,
Has anyone taken a Super Maramu under the two bridges in Nassau
harbour? The clearance is supposed to be 68 ft. and 70 ft., but the
cruising guides differ on this, and before trying it, I want to check
actual experience.

Thanks,

Roy on Excalibur SM#195





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some questions

Mark Pitt
 

In preparing my ASM for a multi-year voyage next year, I am hoping
that other owners can offer me advice on a number of issues:

1. My wife an I will need to look out for coral heads when entering
South Pacific islands. What is the best way to get a few feet above
the deck in order to have better visibility? Are mast steps up 10
feet or so a good way to get the needed visibility? Do foldable mast
steps pose any structural or safety issue with the Amel main mast?
Are rat lines a good option?

2. Another way to spot coral heads is to install sonar. The
transducers seem very large for most forward looking sonars such as
EchoPilot and Interphase? What do these transducer do to sailing
performance on the Amel Super Maramu? Are the sonars practically
useful for finding one's way in coral fringed islands?

3. I would like to add some fuel capacity for ocean crossing. I am
thinking about strapping a 100 gallon bladder tank to the roof aft of
the mizzen. Once across the ocean, I would roll the tank up and store
it in a locker. Has anyone had any experience with bladder tanks
(such as those made by ATL or Nauta)? Is there some reason that this
would be a bad idea? Would there ne a lot of fuel sloshing noise?

4. Has anyone used AGM batteries in an ASM? Is there any issue with
charge regulation with AGMs in a newer (2003) ASM?

Mark
"Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Eric and others, The American equivalent of polytrol is Penetrol, it can be bought in any big paint store,not home depot or Lowes.It is used to thin paint, but if you read the label it will tell you it restores fiberglass. It really works great on the faux teak decks and the whole job can be done in an hour. It doesn't work as well on the smooth fiberglass. For a really old Amel with decks beyond repair their is a product called marine deck 2000. Look it up on google. Its an absolutley fabulous material made of cork of all things. It looks exactly like teak decking and can be used inside or out. I just put a cork floor in my kitchen and I really like it. Once your deck is looking like new, buy a pint of 100% grain alcohol and an ear syringe . Next time you land a big fish on deck squirt a couple of onces into his gills and he will die in seconds.```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````John SM 248 Moondog````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````


From: eric <kimberlite@optonline.net>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:05:30 -0500

Roy,
Where did you get polytrol?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rbenven44
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures

Hi,
Following the advice posted here by Harmonie a couple of years ago,
we painted the deck stripes on Excalibur last November. Excalibur is 8
years old, and in need of deck attention (we probably scrub the decks
too much!!)
I have posted some pictures on this web site for those who want to
see what it looks like, (before and after). We are very pleased with
the results. We used the Embee striper, as recommended, and one-part
polyurethane paint (50% brown, 50% black). It took 6 days at 3 hours
per day for the decks, and 2 days for the cockpit. After letting the
paint dry for a few days, we coated all the surfaces with Polytrol, a
French product recommended by Mr. Selo at Amel. The decks look like
new. The picture of the re-painted forward deck areas show before-and-
after of applying Polytrol.
Any questions on how to do this, please contact me.

Regards, Roy on Excalibur SM#195







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Polytrol at Accastillages Diffusion

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Here is a link to the AD web site showing Polytrol

http://www.accastillage-diffusion.com/catalogue.asp?
z1=Yb6R3xkNB3BO7mAEGENDcZs4&r1=9358&f2=4&f7=

Regards, Roy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Eric,
We bought the Polytrol at Acastillages Diffusion (AD), a shipchandler
in Hyeres, France. They have a web site. I don't know if the
product is available in US, but probably in Caribbean (St. Martin or
Martinique).
Roy

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, eric <kimberlite@o...> wrote:

Roy,
Where did you get polytrol?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rbenven44
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures

Hi,
Following the advice posted here by Harmonie a couple of years
ago,
we painted the deck stripes on Excalibur last November. Excalibur
is 8
years old, and in need of deck attention (we probably scrub the
decks
too much!!)
I have posted some pictures on this web site for those who want
to
see what it looks like, (before and after). We are very pleased
with
the results. We used the Embee striper, as recommended, and one-
part
polyurethane paint (50% brown, 50% black). It took 6 days at 3
hours
per day for the decks, and 2 days for the cockpit. After letting
the
paint dry for a few days, we coated all the surfaces with Polytrol,
a
French product recommended by Mr. Selo at Amel. The decks look
like
new. The picture of the re-painted forward deck areas show before-
and-
after of applying Polytrol.
Any questions on how to do this, please contact me.

Regards, Roy on Excalibur SM#195







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures

eric freedman
 

Roy,
Where did you get polytrol?
Fair Winds,
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rbenven44
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 7:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Painting deck stripes - pictures

Hi,
Following the advice posted here by Harmonie a couple of years ago,
we painted the deck stripes on Excalibur last November. Excalibur is 8
years old, and in need of deck attention (we probably scrub the decks
too much!!)
I have posted some pictures on this web site for those who want to
see what it looks like, (before and after). We are very pleased with
the results. We used the Embee striper, as recommended, and one-part
polyurethane paint (50% brown, 50% black). It took 6 days at 3 hours
per day for the decks, and 2 days for the cockpit. After letting the
paint dry for a few days, we coated all the surfaces with Polytrol, a
French product recommended by Mr. Selo at Amel. The decks look like
new. The picture of the re-painted forward deck areas show before-and-
after of applying Polytrol.
Any questions on how to do this, please contact me.

Regards, Roy on Excalibur SM#195







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Painting deck stripes - pictures

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi,
Following the advice posted here by Harmonie a couple of years ago,
we painted the deck stripes on Excalibur last November. Excalibur is 8
years old, and in need of deck attention (we probably scrub the decks
too much!!)
I have posted some pictures on this web site for those who want to
see what it looks like, (before and after). We are very pleased with
the results. We used the Embee striper, as recommended, and one-part
polyurethane paint (50% brown, 50% black). It took 6 days at 3 hours
per day for the decks, and 2 days for the cockpit. After letting the
paint dry for a few days, we coated all the surfaces with Polytrol, a
French product recommended by Mr. Selo at Amel. The decks look like
new. The picture of the re-painted forward deck areas show before-and-
after of applying Polytrol.
Any questions on how to do this, please contact me.

Regards, Roy on Excalibur SM#195


Bridge Clearance - Nassau harbour

rbenven44 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi,
Has anyone taken a Super Maramu under the two bridges in Nassau
harbour? The clearance is supposed to be 68 ft. and 70 ft., but the
cruising guides differ on this, and before trying it, I want to check
actual experience.

Thanks,

Roy on Excalibur SM#195


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] In Boom Furling Systems

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

John, Inboom furling is the best way to go on a re-fit. It will give you more sail area,more roach,better shape,and a much better performing boat. It is expensive,you will need a new boom and you will have to fabricate a tract for your slides over the existing slot in your old mast. Inboom furling is the wave of the future. In case of any failure all you do is raise and lower the sail same as we used to do. You can also place full length battens in the sail. Amel will eventually install it on their boats, the price will go up, but so will the performance. Also remember that in a blow you want to bring the center of effort down low when you reef, inboom furling realy does this.
John SM 248 Moondog
From: "anniemno1" <anniemno1@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] In Boom Furling Systems
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:55:05 -0000

Does anyone have any experience with retrofitting with an in-boom
furling system?

We have an Amel Mango with a single spreader mast and are considering
furling options.

Regards,

Anne and John
Annie M



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Super Maramu for sale

ove turoy <ohturoey@...>
 

Dear Goran
I didn't find your listing? , May I ask about your asking price?
I think it might be a bit over our budget since it's as new as 2003

Best Regards
Ove

Göran Svensson <lgh_svensson@yahoo.com> wrote:
I noticed a message the other day from a couple looking for a Super
Maramu!
Well, our Super Maramu #396 is still for sale. Details are available
at www. Boats.com. (Search for "Amel" then sort by year ). Look for
2003 model in the name of Bengt Ebesson.
The price is reduced and furthermore since the boat is not yet listed
with any broker we can consider additional price reduction. Take
contact.

Kind Regards
Göran Svensson






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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Amel supermaramu wanted

ove turoy <ohturoey@...>
 

Sthepen
Thanks for your reply, but I think your asking price for a 2003 will be a bit out of our budget.

Best Regards
Ove

scorpiostephan <scorpiostephan@yahoo.com> wrote:

Maria and Ove,
Just to let you know that Ive got a 2003 Super Maramu that is hardly
used.If you would like more info just let me know.
Stephen




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<notrevie@h...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ohturoey" <ohturoey@y...>
wrote:

hi and happy new year to everybody
we are a young couple that are looking for a supermaramu, and we
are
thinking that there might be many that is not listed through the
internet and brookers so we are also trying this way, and there
might
be somthing to save for bouth parts with a private sale compare
to
what a brooker charge today.

Best regards
Maria & Ove
Hello Maria and Ove,

We have a 2003 Super Maramu, hull number 391, which we indent to
list
with a broker this Spring. If you are interested and want more
info,
please contact me directly at Notrevie@h...

Regards,
Ken Burnap





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Re: Amel supermaramu wanted

scorpiostephan <scorpiostephan@...>
 

Maria and Ove,
Just to let you know that Ive got a 2003 Super Maramu that is hardly
used.If you would like more info just let me know.
Stephen




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ken & Nancy Burnap"
<notrevie@h...> wrote:

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ohturoey" <ohturoey@y...>
wrote:

hi and happy new year to everybody
we are a young couple that are looking for a supermaramu, and we
are
thinking that there might be many that is not listed through the
internet and brookers so we are also trying this way, and there
might
be somthing to save for bouth parts with a private sale compare
to
what a brooker charge today.

Best regards
Maria & Ove
Hello Maria and Ove,

We have a 2003 Super Maramu, hull number 391, which we indent to
list
with a broker this Spring. If you are interested and want more
info,
please contact me directly at Notrevie@h...

Regards,
Ken Burnap


Re: Amel supermaramu wanted

Ken & Nancy Burnap <notrevie@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "ohturoey" <ohturoey@y...>
wrote:

hi and happy new year to everybody
we are a young couple that are looking for a supermaramu, and we are
thinking that there might be many that is not listed through the
internet and brookers so we are also trying this way, and there
might
be somthing to save for bouth parts with a private sale compare to
what a brooker charge today.

Best regards
Maria & Ove
Hello Maria and Ove,

We have a 2003 Super Maramu, hull number 391, which we indent to list
with a broker this Spring. If you are interested and want more info,
please contact me directly at Notrevie@hotmail.com

Regards,
Ken Burnap


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Electrolux fridge

Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
 

Hi Ivar

I gave my experience as recently as December. I'm travelling now so cannot give you a better user-group reference. Your condition sounds like voltage drop, like mine. If your batteries show good voltage but your fridge indicates inadequate voltage, you should try replacing the whole circuit of cabling to and from the compressor. If you don't do this, a new fridge may suffer the same problem.

Regards, Roger, Mango 28, Zorba

On Thursday, January 19, 2006, at 11:29PM, ivarmylde <mylde@online.no> wrote:


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(No subject)

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

On a brighter note, having pickled our watermaker for 7 months it has worked first time. Never needed those darn bottles!Ian & Judy. Pen Azen


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Freak accident

Eric Lindholm
 

That is the the most bizarre accident I have ever heard, but I will make sure I remember it, and pass it on. Eric maramu 105

Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote: Having left our boat ashore for 7 months and not being certain that the
watermaker will function after being pickled that long, we bought 5 large (
6 litre) plastic bottles of water . Round bottles.
We unloaded them onto the side deck . It was mid afternnon, full sun.After
only about a minute I moved them into the cockpit and immediately smelt
burning. There, on the side deck where the bottles had stood for no more
than a minute , were 5 small holes burnt into the deck, about 15 millimeters
across and up to 1 1/2 mill deep. By chance the shape of the bottle had
created the perfect magnifying glass creating an immediate and very hot
concentration of the sun´s rays. As soon as I realized what had happened I
grabbed the bottles off the cockpit seat--too late, smaller burns appear
there as well. You live and learn.
I have some brown gelcoat on board though of the same colour as the rub
rail. It will have to do for the time being.
Has anyone found anyone, anywhere ,who can repair a hole in an Amel deck so
that the end result doesnt jump out at you?
Don´t normally complain about too much sun.......Ian and Judy Jenkins,
Pen Azen, SM 302, Piriapolis, Uruguay.
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Freak accident

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Having left our boat ashore for 7 months and not being certain that the watermaker will function after being pickled that long, we bought 5 large ( 6 litre) plastic bottles of water . Round bottles.
We unloaded them onto the side deck . It was mid afternnon, full sun.After only about a minute I moved them into the cockpit and immediately smelt burning. There, on the side deck where the bottles had stood for no more than a minute , were 5 small holes burnt into the deck, about 15 millimeters across and up to 1 1/2 mill deep. By chance the shape of the bottle had created the perfect magnifying glass creating an immediate and very hot concentration of the suns rays. As soon as I realized what had happened I grabbed the bottles off the cockpit seat--too late, smaller burns appear there as well. You live and learn.
I have some brown gelcoat on board though of the same colour as the rub rail. It will have to do for the time being.
Has anyone found anyone, anywhere ,who can repair a hole in an Amel deck so that the end result doesnt jump out at you?
Dont normally complain about too much sun.......Ian and Judy Jenkins, Pen Azen, SM 302, Piriapolis, Uruguay.
,


Electrolux fridge

ivarmylde <mylde@...>
 

Good morning,
My Electrolux fridge gives red light on the lamp which should indicate
low voltage, but batteries are OK. thus the fridge are not working
properly. According to Electrolux, Sweden they believe it cannot be
repaired since the fridge is from 1991 and they do not hve the spares.
Amel tells me they cannot deliver same fridge any more and I must
modify to fit another fridge.
Have anyone of the Amel owners had same problems ? Can the fridge be
repaired - or can I buy another type of fridge which fits in the gally.
Fridge Electrolux RB2405 115 liter 24 volt.

Rgds Ivar
Silfrania, SM #53