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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rigging Question

Roger Banks <roger.banks@...>
 

Hi Tony

Can you not either slacken or tighten the halyard tension so that the
mainsail would not be suspended loosely. In the later added goiot
(maybe the word you are looking for) on my older boat, there is no
room for the sail to slop around, but certainly the main halyard
controls its tension.

Regards, Roger, Mango 28 Zorba

On 22/08/2006, at 8:31 AM, agav8ter wrote:

Thank you Gary for the reply.

I did obtain an Amel CD. It is for the SM but has a different
engine, battery charger and some other things than my boat #266. I
was able to read and understand the way to change the tension on the
halyards (I do not have the Amel loop for the main). I was not
abale to find info on the (for the lack of the proper term) furling
tubes. I can see by looking through the sail slot on the main that
the entire furled sail is gently going back and forth as we swing on
the hook, with the entire mass "slapping" the inside of the mast.
When slepping forward it has the soft sound of doom, doom, doom as
it hits. It's the reference to DOOM that has me concerned!

Thanks again for the reply and I am all ears for for info.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Hi Tony:

It would be a good idea to get the owners manual for your boat.
It is full of very useful
information. Amel also produced a CD ROM that has the entire SM
owners manual in it
and could be shipped to you easily for viewing on you computer.
Just Email Amel at their
web site address and or call them and I am sure that you can
obtain the manual and/or CD
ROM from them.

The main and mizzen halyards are tensioned in different ways. The
mizzen halyard is
taken on the mizzen mast port side winch, then you release port
side clutch where the
halyard exits the mast. You tension the halyard, without load on
the mizzen sail, until the
tack lacings near the furling gear box are taught. Set the clutch
and stow the excess
halyard.

The main halyard requires a looped piece of line, originally
supplied by Amel and of the
same color code as the main halyard, that attaches to the track
mounted car on the
starboard side of the main mast. Take tension off the car with
the looped line taken to
one of the main mast winches (usuallly I use the larger lower
one), disengage the locking
pin, tension the halyard until the sail's tack lacings are taught
and the locking pin engages
one of the track holes. Again is is important to have the sail
unfurled and without load on
it (luffing) while you tension the halyard. This is all easier
done than described. Amel
recommends that you ease the halyard tensions when the sails won't
be used for some
time.

Even with the halyards properly tensioned I still hear some
slapping at times within the
masts. This is most likely the wires that run up the interior
forward sections of the masts
slapping back and forth as the boat pitches, rather than the sails
themselves. I have been
a little worried about wire chafe from this slapping but I am
unsure what steps to take to
resolve it. Anybody else have suggestions on this?

I hope this helps.

Regards, Gary Silver

Hello fellow Amel sailors,

I own a SM #266, but do not have any of the (Amel)manuals for
her.

Question:
Recently when the sails are furled I can hear the rolled up mass
gently banging against the inside of both the main and mizzen
masts. I would like to know how to tighen the internal rig to
make
the (I don't know the correct name) aluminum tube that the sail
is
hanked to tighter to stop the banging. On the main mast Stbd
side
there is a fixture that is on a slide. There is a line on it
that
goes through the mast and to a winch. Is this where I get the
desired tension? What is the correct tension? How about the
mizzen?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
currently at anchor, Store Bay, Tobago


Re: Rigging Question

Ag Av8ter
 

Thank you Gary for the reply.

I did obtain an Amel CD. It is for the SM but has a different
engine, battery charger and some other things than my boat #266. I
was able to read and understand the way to change the tension on the
halyards (I do not have the Amel loop for the main). I was not
abale to find info on the (for the lack of the proper term) furling
tubes. I can see by looking through the sail slot on the main that
the entire furled sail is gently going back and forth as we swing on
the hook, with the entire mass "slapping" the inside of the mast.
When slepping forward it has the soft sound of doom, doom, doom as
it hits. It's the reference to DOOM that has me concerned!

Thanks again for the reply and I am all ears for for info.

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...>
wrote:

Hi Tony:

It would be a good idea to get the owners manual for your boat.
It is full of very useful
information. Amel also produced a CD ROM that has the entire SM
owners manual in it
and could be shipped to you easily for viewing on you computer.
Just Email Amel at their
web site address and or call them and I am sure that you can
obtain the manual and/or CD
ROM from them.

The main and mizzen halyards are tensioned in different ways. The
mizzen halyard is
taken on the mizzen mast port side winch, then you release port
side clutch where the
halyard exits the mast. You tension the halyard, without load on
the mizzen sail, until the
tack lacings near the furling gear box are taught. Set the clutch
and stow the excess
halyard.

The main halyard requires a looped piece of line, originally
supplied by Amel and of the
same color code as the main halyard, that attaches to the track
mounted car on the
starboard side of the main mast. Take tension off the car with
the looped line taken to
one of the main mast winches (usuallly I use the larger lower
one), disengage the locking
pin, tension the halyard until the sail's tack lacings are taught
and the locking pin engages
one of the track holes. Again is is important to have the sail
unfurled and without load on
it (luffing) while you tension the halyard. This is all easier
done than described. Amel
recommends that you ease the halyard tensions when the sails won't
be used for some
time.

Even with the halyards properly tensioned I still hear some
slapping at times within the
masts. This is most likely the wires that run up the interior
forward sections of the masts
slapping back and forth as the boat pitches, rather than the sails
themselves. I have been
a little worried about wire chafe from this slapping but I am
unsure what steps to take to
resolve it. Anybody else have suggestions on this?

I hope this helps.

Regards, Gary Silver

Hello fellow Amel sailors,

I own a SM #266, but do not have any of the (Amel)manuals for
her.

Question:
Recently when the sails are furled I can hear the rolled up mass
gently banging against the inside of both the main and mizzen
masts. I would like to know how to tighen the internal rig to
make
the (I don't know the correct name) aluminum tube that the sail
is
hanked to tighter to stop the banging. On the main mast Stbd
side
there is a fixture that is on a slide. There is a line on it
that
goes through the mast and to a winch. Is this where I get the
desired tension? What is the correct tension? How about the
mizzen?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
currently at anchor, Store Bay, Tobago


Re: Rigging Question

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Tony:

It would be a good idea to get the owners manual for your boat. It is full of very useful
information. Amel also produced a CD ROM that has the entire SM owners manual in it
and could be shipped to you easily for viewing on you computer. Just Email Amel at their
web site address and or call them and I am sure that you can obtain the manual and/or CD
ROM from them.

The main and mizzen halyards are tensioned in different ways. The mizzen halyard is
taken on the mizzen mast port side winch, then you release port side clutch where the
halyard exits the mast. You tension the halyard, without load on the mizzen sail, until the
tack lacings near the furling gear box are taught. Set the clutch and stow the excess
halyard.

The main halyard requires a looped piece of line, originally supplied by Amel and of the
same color code as the main halyard, that attaches to the track mounted car on the
starboard side of the main mast. Take tension off the car with the looped line taken to
one of the main mast winches (usuallly I use the larger lower one), disengage the locking
pin, tension the halyard until the sail's tack lacings are taught and the locking pin engages
one of the track holes. Again is is important to have the sail unfurled and without load on
it (luffing) while you tension the halyard. This is all easier done than described. Amel
recommends that you ease the halyard tensions when the sails won't be used for some
time.

Even with the halyards properly tensioned I still hear some slapping at times within the
masts. This is most likely the wires that run up the interior forward sections of the masts
slapping back and forth as the boat pitches, rather than the sails themselves. I have been
a little worried about wire chafe from this slapping but I am unsure what steps to take to
resolve it. Anybody else have suggestions on this?

I hope this helps.

Regards, Gary Silver

Hello fellow Amel sailors,

I own a SM #266, but do not have any of the (Amel)manuals for her.

Question:
Recently when the sails are furled I can hear the rolled up mass
gently banging against the inside of both the main and mizzen
masts. I would like to know how to tighen the internal rig to make
the (I don't know the correct name) aluminum tube that the sail is
hanked to tighter to stop the banging. On the main mast Stbd side
there is a fixture that is on a slide. There is a line on it that
goes through the mast and to a winch. Is this where I get the
desired tension? What is the correct tension? How about the mizzen?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
currently at anchor, Store Bay, Tobago


Rigging Question

Ag Av8ter
 

Hello fellow Amel sailors,

I own a SM #266, but do not have any of the (Amel)manuals for her.

Question:
Recently when the sails are furled I can hear the rolled up mass
gently banging against the inside of both the main and mizzen
masts. I would like to know how to tighen the internal rig to make
the (I don't know the correct name) aluminum tube that the sail is
hanked to tighter to stop the banging. On the main mast Stbd side
there is a fixture that is on a slide. There is a line on it that
goes through the mast and to a winch. Is this where I get the
desired tension? What is the correct tension? How about the mizzen?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Tony
WORLD CITIZEN
SM #266
currently at anchor, Store Bay, Tobago


BLUE CARPET AND CURTAINS FOR SALE

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

I have replaced the carpet and the curtains in my sm2000 #369. The
carpets are in good condition and I would like to sell them - $500 plus
shipping. The curtains are also in good condition - $500 plus shipping.
Peter Pappas "Callisto"


Fresh Water Pressure

edmund_steele
 

Does anyone know how to adjust the pressure settings on the Super
Maramu's FEIT (?)freshwater pump? I removed the plastic pressure
switch cover and there appears to be two screw adjusters - neither of
which has much effect. My problem is with the low setting at which the
pump should turn on.
Ed Steele
SV DoodleBug SM331


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu and Santorin ceiling padding deterioration

Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
 

Hi,

We have Santorin 004 and our headlinings were in need of replacement after about 13/14 years due to the fact that it had been in Med and tropics all its life. The foam backing had crumbled away. As we could not afford to either have it replaced commercially and felt the AMEL lining, good as it is, was rather expensive we decided to do it ourselves. We bought the fabric, glues etc. in England and put it up ourselves using the old linings as patterns. It is an unpleasant, messy, job but quite possible to get a very good finish (I'm not sure if a professional would have done better but I would have to give them the benifit of the doubt.) and we saved a great deal of money. We know other Amel owners who have also done the same as well as owners of other builders boats. We understand that 10 year old Westerly Boats have the same problem.

Otherwise we think the Santorin is fantastic.

Go for it!

Robin and Maggie Cooter,
Belouga

Robi

restlessmen <john.stonier@btinternet.com> wrote:
I am in search of a SM or Santorin and I understand that after 10-12
years the ceiling foam padding deteriorates due to the heat and
requires a total replacment of the lining which Amel charges Euro
12,000 for.

Can anyone corfirm this, and from what date and build number,
particularily on the Santorin, is this no longer a problem. Presumably
Amel used a different material from then on.

Is there a cheaper fix for this ?

Are there any other maintenance issues I should be particularily aware
of while looking for a used Santorin ?

Many Thanks,

john Stonier






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12 volt outlet

eric freedman
 

Mark,
You might find it handy to add a triple 12 volt plug receptacle on the
nav station under the radar next to the lamp. It is available from
radio shack very cheap. I also added one at the dressing table in the
aft cabin. I hooked that one into the 12 volt TV power supply. It is
handy for charging phones, radios, ipods, and computers.
Fair winds,
Eric


12 volt and 24 volt plugs for Super Maramu

Mark Pitt
 

I have found a source in the US for the 3-prong plugs used in the
Amel for the fan outlets and the 12 and 24 volt outlets at the nav
station. These are the Italian Btinico Spina 2P+T 10A plugs. They
can be purchased from Interpower as part number 88010771 for $8.87 by
calling 800-662-2290 . On the web, you can find this plug at
http://www.interpower.com/scripts/wsisa.dll/WService=ic/p80form.p?w_part=88010771

The ones I received from Interpower are identical to the extra plug
that Amel gave me. I hope this information is useful.

Mark Pitt "Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sourcing Laundry

Ken Burnap <notrevie@...>
 

Hi Chuck, Sounds as though your problem is more serious than ours.
After returning to our boat which had been on the hard for four months, we discovered that the drum was frozen in position and would not turn at all. Without removing the machine we undertook some exploratory work. On the inside surface of the wash drum, there are two access cover plates. Upon removing the forwrd plate (closest to the salon settee) we discovered that soap deposits had crystalized inside the space to such an extent that it was impossibke to move the drum. After a good soak with WD40 we chipped out the soap concrete and gave the drum a vigerous tug which freed it up. We then ran an empty wash cycle to clean up the WD40 and it has worked fine every since. This doesn't sound like your problem but maybe some time in the future................

Regards, Ken
SM2000, 391

From: "cluecker" <cluecker@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sourcing Laundry
Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 19:00:35 -0000

Hi Ken,
Yes, that's exactly what happened. I had the thing apart once,
fairly early on, and noticed there was water leaking down onto the
main drum bearings from the dryer heating element passage. I tried
to seal off the offending joints in the duct work, but to no
avail.... We have had the machine pulled and worked on by a local
guy here in New Zealand (we're living in Invercargill, the boat is
in Nelson), and even ordered the parts from Amel, but ran into a
glitch when they only sent one drum bearing instead of two. If we
install the second bearing it will wind up being more money than a
new machine so I would now prefer to suck it up and get the new
machine, putting it down to experience regarding the moneys already
spent. (Just one of the many steep learning curves of boat
ownership.)
Regards,
Chuck Luecker
SM390 "Revelation"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Burnap" <notrevie@...>
wrote:

I'm wondering if your machine drum froze in place and refuses to
turn by
hand - if so, I may have the fix for you.

Ken Burnap
s/v Notre Vie, sm391



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] problem with air conditioning

amelforme
 

Hi Mark,

I don't want to get in a jackpot with the CLIMA guy here as
he is a good fellow. However, the head of CLIMA in Italy
was on my boat several years ago and told me, without
question, that 60 cycle power would not hurt the air
conditioner/heater. Matter of fact they put out 9000 BTU at
60 cycles because they run faster than when on 50 cycles
(8000 BTU) from the genset.

You may have shore power problems or the units may need
service/recharging with refrigerant. Get Eric to tell you
how to mount a voltmeter/cycle meter in front/ahead of your
220 volt circuit breaker board. You can then check shore
power before you energize the 220 volt panel by engaging the
master G.F.I.

The new 54 has a voltmeter now standard. By the time you
get your own 54 someday, I'm pretty sure there will be a
cycle meter as well.

All the best,
Joel
AMEL 54, HOLLIS, #14


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] problem with air conditioning

eric freedman
 

Mark,

I had the same problem.

The capacitor on top of the raw water pump was fried. I got another one and
all has been fine since.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of markmpitt
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] problem with air conditioning



This is the first season that "Sabbatical III" (ASM #419) has been at
a marina slip in the US. After running the air conditioning for only
a few hours over the past week, I have been having a problem
with all three units. After running for 2 to 4 minutes, the
AC circuit breaker shuts off. Some units shut
off more quickly than other units. It does not matter
if I am running only one air conditioning unit and nothing
else on the 220 circuit -- the circuit breaker pops off. I can find
nothing wrong. The cooling water runs smoothly at all times
and the amperage draw does not spike before the circuit
breaker pops. The boat is plugged into 220 V 60 Hz
50 amp shore power. When I draw power from the generator, the same
thing happens. The AC worked great at the dock in June before I left
on a month-long cruise.

The technician at my marina called the Climma representative
in the US who told him that the problem most likely arose
from using 60 cycle power. He said that these units were meant
to only run at 50 cycles. He suggested that I replace the
start circuits and the capacitors and not run the air conditioning on
US shore power again.

The Amel owners manual explicitly says that the air conditioning
can be run at 50 or 60 Hz. Shall I go ahead and have the
start circuits and capacitors replaced and not run the unit
on 60 Hz power again, or is the US Climma representative wrong
about the source of the problem and the cure?

Mark Pitt, "Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Re: problem with air conditioning

itacknjibe
 

Mark,
We had a problem with our AC on shore power while in Trinidad.
Apparently a voltage spike or other marina fault was to blame. It
fried the big capacitor on top of the water circulation pump. We
found a replaccement with the same specs, and it has worked fine
since. (The replacement wasn't the one from Climma, and was about
1/3 the price, or less.)
When the capacitor is blown, the pump doesn't run at all, but check
to see if it is overheating. If so, the box on top of the pump will
be very hot to the touch.
The Climma factory authorised person in Trinidad, by the way, didn't
feel that the frequency should affewct operation.
Good luck,
Bill Nation
Sogno di Mare
SM2K #404

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@...>
wrote:

This is the first season that "Sabbatical III" (ASM #419) has been
at
a marina slip in the US. After running the air conditioning for
only
a few hours over the past week, I have been having a problem
with all three units. After running for 2 to 4 minutes, the
AC circuit breaker shuts off. Some units shut
off more quickly than other units. It does not matter
if I am running only one air conditioning unit and nothing
else on the 220 circuit -- the circuit breaker pops off. I can
find
nothing wrong. The cooling water runs smoothly at all times
and the amperage draw does not spike before the circuit
breaker pops. The boat is plugged into 220 V 60 Hz
50 amp shore power. When I draw power from the generator, the same
thing happens. The AC worked great at the dock in June before I
left
on a month-long cruise.

The technician at my marina called the Climma representative
in the US who told him that the problem most likely arose
from using 60 cycle power. He said that these units were meant
to only run at 50 cycles. He suggested that I replace the
start circuits and the capacitors and not run the air conditioning
on
US shore power again.

The Amel owners manual explicitly says that the air conditioning
can be run at 50 or 60 Hz. Shall I go ahead and have the
start circuits and capacitors replaced and not run the unit
on 60 Hz power again, or is the US Climma representative wrong
about the source of the problem and the cure?

Mark Pitt, "Sabbatical III" ASM #419


problem with air conditioning

Mark Pitt
 

This is the first season that "Sabbatical III" (ASM #419) has been at
a marina slip in the US. After running the air conditioning for only
a few hours over the past week, I have been having a problem
with all three units. After running for 2 to 4 minutes, the
AC circuit breaker shuts off. Some units shut
off more quickly than other units. It does not matter
if I am running only one air conditioning unit and nothing
else on the 220 circuit -- the circuit breaker pops off. I can find
nothing wrong. The cooling water runs smoothly at all times
and the amperage draw does not spike before the circuit
breaker pops. The boat is plugged into 220 V 60 Hz
50 amp shore power. When I draw power from the generator, the same
thing happens. The AC worked great at the dock in June before I left
on a month-long cruise.

The technician at my marina called the Climma representative
in the US who told him that the problem most likely arose
from using 60 cycle power. He said that these units were meant
to only run at 50 cycles. He suggested that I replace the
start circuits and the capacitors and not run the air conditioning on
US shore power again.

The Amel owners manual explicitly says that the air conditioning
can be run at 50 or 60 Hz. Shall I go ahead and have the
start circuits and capacitors replaced and not run the unit
on 60 Hz power again, or is the US Climma representative wrong
about the source of the problem and the cure?

Mark Pitt, "Sabbatical III" ASM #419


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sourcing Laundry

cluecker <cluecker@...>
 

Hi Ken,
Yes, that's exactly what happened. I had the thing apart once,
fairly early on, and noticed there was water leaking down onto the
main drum bearings from the dryer heating element passage. I tried
to seal off the offending joints in the duct work, but to no
avail.... We have had the machine pulled and worked on by a local
guy here in New Zealand (we're living in Invercargill, the boat is
in Nelson), and even ordered the parts from Amel, but ran into a
glitch when they only sent one drum bearing instead of two. If we
install the second bearing it will wind up being more money than a
new machine so I would now prefer to suck it up and get the new
machine, putting it down to experience regarding the moneys already
spent. (Just one of the many steep learning curves of boat
ownership.)
Regards,
Chuck Luecker
SM390 "Revelation"

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Burnap" <notrevie@...>
wrote:

I'm wondering if your machine drum froze in place and refuses to
turn by
hand - if so, I may have the fix for you.

Ken Burnap
s/v Notre Vie, sm391


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sourcing Laundry

eric freedman
 

Where are you located?

Fair Winds,

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cluecker
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 6:44 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sourcing Laundry



Our washing machine has given up the ghost and we're trying to source
a new one. Does anyone have any leads? It was a 2002
Thomson "Australe" model. Thanks, Chuck


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sourcing Laundry

Ken Burnap <notrevie@...>
 

I'm wondering if your machine drum froze in place and refuses to turn by hand - if so, I may have the fix for you.

Ken Burnap
s/v Notre Vie, sm391

From: "cluecker" <cluecker@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sourcing Laundry
Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 10:44:17 -0000

Our washing machine has given up the ghost and we're trying to source
a new one. Does anyone have any leads? It was a 2002
Thomson "Australe" model. Thanks, Chuck



Re: Change Of E-Mail Address

Judy Rouse
 

Ian,

You do realize that Yahoo! strips out email addresses from the body
of postings. Only the first few letters of each email address are
visible to readers of your postings, so it is impossible to
determine your new email address or your text-only email address.

Judy
S/V Security
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Ian Shepherd" <ocean53@...>
wrote:

Just to let you know that I have had enough of CompuServe and all
the spam
That is generated there. So from today, my g4ljf@... address will



Be closed and only ocean53@... will remain as my 'on land'
E-mail
Address. Sorry to trouble you, but please take a moment to update
your
Address book.

At sea, g4ljf@... is still my e-mail address, but please remember
That this address will handle text only and that when replying,
the original



Text must be deleted before sending.

Regards

Ian Shepherd


Sourcing Laundry

cluecker <cluecker@...>
 

Our washing machine has given up the ghost and we're trying to source
a new one. Does anyone have any leads? It was a 2002
Thomson "Australe" model. Thanks, Chuck


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu and Santorin ceiling padding deterioration

amelforme
 

Hello Mr. Stonier,

The change from synthetic foam backing that fails with heat
cycling to 100% cotton/felt backing which doesn't, occurred
on all boats built after September 1, 1992.

If you search this sites archives, there are some postings
on this problem.

Good luck,

Joel F. Potter, AMEL 54, hull # 14 - HOLLIS