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sail tack and clew lines

mike_ondra <mondra@...>
 

As we are replacing the sails on our SM 2000 we plan to also replace
the tack and clew lines. We have been unable to find a spec on that
cording or the number of recommended wraps (obviously we can count the
existing number of wraps and if our new cording is of the same
strength as the original we can match the total tensile capacity).
Anyone have definitive information on this detail?


SM 2000 fresh water system

mike_ondra <mondra@...>
 

As the new owners of a 1999 SM 2000 we have enjoyed exploring our
new vessel and the challenges of figuring out the systems.
Winterization generated a number of questions.

We expected to remove the 2 nuts on the wood cover under the sole
board in the galley and be able to access the fresh water tank. We
found simply an indentation in the fiberglas, as if it was intended
to provide an access point, but had not been cut out. What are we
missing? Is/are there access points for cleaning?

The water heater, mounted on an angle with all piping and electrical
connections on the bottom end, seems to lack any high temp/pressure
safety blow-off. Typical? Method of draining and replacement of
anode or failed electric heating element? The magnesium anode is
huge! Does it really need replacement in 3 years?

The manual seems to imply a method to simply drain the fresh water
system back to the keel tank. That certainly would be easy if it
worked. We could not believe that approach would safely drain the
system and so simply added antifreeze to the empty tank and then fed
the entire fresh water system until pink. Again, are we missing out
on an easier way to do this?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

Sorry, did not mean to confuse anyone. I was going by the jpeg images of
the layouts of both Maramu and Santorin that I obtained last year when we
were deciding which model to buy. The jpegs that I have indicate that both
Maramu and Santorin are 48-ft. Apparently they must both be 46-ft.

In that case, what would this guy's 48-ft boat be? Did Amel actually make a
Super Maramu that was only 48-ft? Or did they also make a late model Maramu
that was increased to 48-ft?

Wish Amel would post on their website the specs for their various models
over the years. Other boat builders do this.

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Cooter
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:08 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

The Santorin is 13.94 meters, apx 46'. Beam 3.93m It
was the successor to the Maramu which, I believe, was
also apx. 46'.

Robin Cooter
Belouga, Santorin 004.




--- Judy Rouse <judyrouse@houston.rr.com> wrote:


---------------------------------
The Maramu was 48-ft and was based on the previous
48-ft model called
Santorin.

The Super Maramu model was originally described as
52-ft and was based on
the previous 52-ft model called Mango. Then there was
the Super Maramu 2000
(also called Millenium model or SM2) which is 53-ft.

The boat should have either Maramu or Super Maramu
actually identified on
the boat. Every Amel that I have seen has been has
this written
identification somewhere on it. Find the plate
showing the hull number. It
should also identify the model name. In the interior
of our boat, there is
a metal plate reading "Chantiers Amel, La Rochelle,
France, SUPER MARAMU No.
387." Also, on the outside of the hull near the stern
just below the toe
rail, our boat is clearly identified as a Super Maramu
2000.

Don't know if that helps you any.

You could contact Joel Potter; he would know. His
email is
jfpottercys@att.net

Best,

Judy

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duncanmccallie
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:49 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

I'm a broker with a IVAN damaged 48' Amel listed in
Grenada. There is
confusion as to what model this is. Seller insists it
is a
supermaramu. Others believe the 53' is the only
Supermaramu. I'm here
for enlightnment.
Thanks in advance.
Duncan
Project Boat Company, LLC
www.projectboatco.com








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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

georges pellegrini <dji314@...>
 

one the main noticeable difference that you cannot miss is:
-Santorin (46') and Super Maramu 2000 or not (53') are the only ones to
have a unique Amel "C" drive transmission to the prop.
-All other models, including Maramu, Mango, etc... have a classic prop
shaft.

This alone sets them apart.
Georges Pellegrini
Greenlight, Santorin 136



On Nov 29, 2005, at 7:08 PM, Robin Cooter wrote:

The Santorin is 13.94 meters, apx 46'.  Beam 3.93m  It
was the successor to the Maramu which, I believe, was
also apx. 46'.

Robin Cooter
Belouga, Santorin 004.




--- Judy Rouse <judyrouse@houston.rr.com> wrote:


---------------------------------
The Maramu was 48-ft and was based on the previous
48-ft model called
Santorin. 

The Super Maramu model was originally described as
52-ft and was based on
the previous 52-ft model called Mango.  Then there was
the Super Maramu 2000
(also called Millenium model or SM2) which is 53-ft.
 
The boat should have either Maramu or Super Maramu
actually identified on
the boat.  Every Amel that I have seen has been has
this written
identification somewhere on it.  Find the plate
showing the hull number.  It
should also identify the model name.  In the interior
of our boat, there is
a metal plate reading "Chantiers Amel, La Rochelle,
France, SUPER MARAMU No.
387."  Also, on the outside of the hull near the stern
just below the toe
rail, our boat is clearly identified as a Super Maramu
2000.

Don't know if that helps you any.

You could contact Joel Potter; he would know.  His
email is
jfpottercys@att.net

Best,

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
duncanmccallie
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:49 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

I'm a broker with a IVAN damaged 48' Amel listed in
Grenada. There is
confusion as to what model this is. Seller insists it
is a
supermaramu. Others believe the 53' is the only
Supermaramu. I'm here
for enlightnment.
Thanks in advance.
Duncan
Project Boat Company, LLC
www.projectboatco.com








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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

Robin Cooter <robincooter@...>
 

The Santorin is 13.94 meters, apx 46'. Beam 3.93m It
was the successor to the Maramu which, I believe, was
also apx. 46'.

Robin Cooter
Belouga, Santorin 004.




--- Judy Rouse <judyrouse@houston.rr.com> wrote:


---------------------------------
The Maramu was 48-ft and was based on the previous
48-ft model called
Santorin.

The Super Maramu model was originally described as
52-ft and was based on
the previous 52-ft model called Mango. Then there was
the Super Maramu 2000
(also called Millenium model or SM2) which is 53-ft.

The boat should have either Maramu or Super Maramu
actually identified on
the boat. Every Amel that I have seen has been has
this written
identification somewhere on it. Find the plate
showing the hull number. It
should also identify the model name. In the interior
of our boat, there is
a metal plate reading "Chantiers Amel, La Rochelle,
France, SUPER MARAMU No.
387." Also, on the outside of the hull near the stern
just below the toe
rail, our boat is clearly identified as a Super Maramu
2000.

Don't know if that helps you any.

You could contact Joel Potter; he would know. His
email is
jfpottercys@att.net

Best,

Judy

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
duncanmccallie
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:49 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

I'm a broker with a IVAN damaged 48' Amel listed in
Grenada. There is
confusion as to what model this is. Seller insists it
is a
supermaramu. Others believe the 53' is the only
Supermaramu. I'm here
for enlightnment.
Thanks in advance.
Duncan
Project Boat Company, LLC
www.projectboatco.com








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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

The Maramu was 48-ft and was based on the previous 48-ft model called
Santorin.

The Super Maramu model was originally described as 52-ft and was based on
the previous 52-ft model called Mango. Then there was the Super Maramu 2000
(also called Millenium model or SM2) which is 53-ft.

The boat should have either Maramu or Super Maramu actually identified on
the boat. Every Amel that I have seen has been has this written
identification somewhere on it. Find the plate showing the hull number. It
should also identify the model name. In the interior of our boat, there is
a metal plate reading "Chantiers Amel, La Rochelle, France, SUPER MARAMU No.
387." Also, on the outside of the hull near the stern just below the toe
rail, our boat is clearly identified as a Super Maramu 2000.

Don't know if that helps you any.

You could contact Joel Potter; he would know. His email is
jfpottercys@att.net

Best,

Judy

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of duncanmccallie
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:49 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

I'm a broker with a IVAN damaged 48' Amel listed in Grenada. There is
confusion as to what model this is. Seller insists it is a
supermaramu. Others believe the 53' is the only Supermaramu. I'm here
for enlightnment.
Thanks in advance.
Duncan
Project Boat Company, LLC
www.projectboatco.com








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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] model identification

Horst Pause <horst@...>
 

Definitely a Maramu, you should be able to verify this on the plaque on
the starboard side when you go down the companionway. The plaque also
gives you year and build number.

Puddleduck

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I'm a broker with a IVAN damaged 48' Amel listed in Grenada. There is
confusion as to what model this is. Seller insists it is a
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for enlightnment.
Thanks in advance.
Duncan
Project Boat Company, LLC
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model identification

duncanmccallie <duncan@...>
 

I'm a broker with a IVAN damaged 48' Amel listed in Grenada. There is
confusion as to what model this is. Seller insists it is a
supermaramu. Others believe the 53' is the only Supermaramu. I'm here
for enlightnment.
Thanks in advance.
Duncan
Project Boat Company, LLC
www.projectboatco.com


Rub rail and zinc supplier for amel mango 53

sunnysansandy <sunnysansandy@...>
 

I encountered Hurricane Wilma and suffered damage to my rub rail. Does
anybody know of the supplier for the original rubrail or a better
alternative. I also need zincs for the rudder and the bow thrusters.
Again any supply information would be welcome. I'm in the Fort
Lauderdale, Florida region at the moment. Thanks Sandy


Rub rail and zinc supplier for amel mango 53

sunnysansandy <sunnysansandy@...>
 

I encountered Hurricane Wilma and suffered damage to my rub rail. Does
anybody know of the supplier for the original rubrail or a better
alternative. I also need zincs for the rudder and the bow thrusters.
Again any supply information would be welcome. I'm in the Fort
Lauderdale, Florida region at the moment. Thanks Sandy


espar heater

eric freedman
 

has anyone installed an espar heater on their SM.
i would love to chat.
fair winds,
eric
sm 376


1990 Santorin and B&G Hydra 330

Judy Rouse <judyrouse@...>
 

Not sure about the Hydra 330 FFD; definitely can be done from a Hydra 2000.
Have you read message #155 for the technical info provided by B&G tech
support regarding how to get the NMEA signal out of a Hydra FFD? That
question related to connecting B&G Hydra-GPS-Autopilot.

Partial clip from message #155:
"B & G technical support: DO NOT ATTEMPT
TO USE THE NMEA INPUT OUTPUT terminals on the Hydra
processor (i.e. the B & G computer) Instead the NMEA
connections must be made through a NMEA FFD on HYDRA
systems.

B & G tech support states: The solution will be to
locate your NMEA FFD, and connect the wires from your
Raytheon as follows:

Raytheon NMEA Output (+) Brown
NMEA Output (-) Blue
NMEA FFD NMEA Input (+) Violet
NMEA Input (-) Black

The wire shield is grounded by connecting to the other
grounds at the hydra processor. The above wires
are from the cable coming from the Hydra 2000
display. You will find that they are capped. Just pigtail
them together as indicated."


I don't have the pin schematic on hand for the serial connections; left that
info on the boat. We did these connections from our Hydra 2000 to Maxsea on
laptop. Works great. Don't know if it will work for an older model like
the 330; but since it is labeled as FFD, it might.

Best,

Judy

"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments
that take our breath away."

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of galacsea2000
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 5:53 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 1990 Santorin and B&G Hydra 330

Does any one know if it s possible to get an NMEA signal out of an
Hydra 330 FFD or its calculator, both dating back to 1989-90. Thanks


1990 Santorin and B&G Hydra 330

galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
 

Does any one know if it s possible to get an NMEA signal out of an
Hydra 330 FFD or its calculator, both dating back to 1989-90. Thanks


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 1990 Santorin and B&G Hydra 330

dlm48@...
 

In a message dated 24/11/2005 00:14:11 GMT Standard Time,
no_reply@yahoogroups.com writes:

Does any one know if it s possible to get an NMEA signal out of an
Hydra 330 FFD or its calculator, both dating back to 1989-90. Thanks



i THINK you need an add on box :-(

regards

David


photos

eric freedman
 

does anyone have factory photos or photos of their engine room with a
yanmar?
i am also looking for more photos of an espar heater installation.
fair winds.
eric
sm #376


New Photos Kirk # 81

achimschroeder2005 <Achimschro@...>
 

Hi,

for all of you who are interested in the early Amel boats. There are
now some pictures in the Photo section of Kirk # 81 built in 1972 and
still a very nice and fast boat.

Regards
Achim Schroeder
Hamburg, Germany


Passage Help on Amel SM 2000

Bill <junk@...>
 

I've been following this message board for some time. I'm having a difficult time deciding between a well found catamaran and a well found mono hull such as the Amel SM 2000 or Amel 54 which is my favorite. I recently sailed a 56" Fountain-Pajot cat on a 1500 nm passage from MD to BVI and believe I understand their motion and other characteristics. I would like to sail on an Amel SMM in a similar way to compare and make my decision. If any one is in need of help on a passage please contact me. I'm a professional business owner with sailing experience. More info on request.

Bill Tarallo

John McDougall wrote:

I have an Amel 54 on order and my SM2000, "Silver Cloud" no 330, launched May 2001 with Yanmar engine specification, is for sale. This is a very lightly used French Med boat in excellent condition. For sale direct at a very attractive price with free berthing in Antibes till Apr 2006 if required. Please email if interested.
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Maintenance and brushing up

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@...>
 

Hello Ian and Judy,
Thanks for the info. We did serious damage to our anchor winch last
year as I had failed to grease the cones and as it is our practice
to drop the anchor quickly sometimes by releasing it and then
stopping it with the clutch the dry cones grabbed and stopped the
chainto a full stop whilst it was running out at speed thus severely
damaging the keys and one of the cones.
the autopilot motor is probably the hardest working one on the boat
and on our last boat it failed after about 40,000 miles (I think).
The cause was that brush wear had filled the motor casing with
carbon dust.It took some time to get new brushes sent to Fiji.
We also had problems with the drive unit after about 15,000 miles as
the drive gears on the epicyclic clutch were made of some plastic or
nylon which wore out. A replacement set cost £12.50 but brass ones
were priced at £125. Autohelm(now Raytheon) assured me (circa 1995)
that brass was only necessary for boats over 65feet long! I bought
three sets of plastic as spares and was very popular with a couple
of owners in the South Pacific when I sold them on. Olivier has
assured me that Amel use the brass ones but whether this was always
the case I do not know.

All the best, John


Re: California sales tax exemption

dkhackney
 

Peter,

To my understanding, you are correct. You can learn the details from:

Cris John Wenthur, LL.M.
Wenthur & Chachas LLP
4180 La Jolla Village Dr., Suite 500
La Jolla, California 92037
(858) 457-3800 - Tel
(858) 457-3691 - Fax
(619) 276-4506 Home Fax & Emergency Tel
Email: cris@wenthur-chachas.com

Cris can email you a PDF overview of the sales tax law for CA.

Cris is a maritime attorney I was referred to by a yacht broker here
in San Diego.

The short version is you can take delivery offshore. There are
resulting limits on how many hours you can use the boat in CA waters
during the first year for purposes other than initial
repair/refitting/commissioning. It's a big issue out here because they
recently changed the time the boat needed to be out of the state to
pay no sales tax from 90 days to one year.

It is my understanding that in order to keep the boat there, many
states will require you to pay their local sales tax or the difference
between the local sales tax and the sales tax you paid at the time of
the purchase of the boat.

Sales tax rates for boats vary widely by state. I have been told that
NC has a maximum of $1,500 sales tax on boats.

In addition, some states, including CA, charge you property tax on the
boat if it is kept there.

I think it is a good idea to work with a local CA maritime attorney if
you are going to do an offshore delivery here to ensure you are doing
things properly.

I am not an attorney, so please do not consider any of this
information authoritative or definitive.

be well,
Doug




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "pjppappas" <pjppappas@y...>
wrote:

I am a non California resident who is seeking to purchase an Amel
which is based in California. I have been advised that if I purchase
and take possession of the vessel outside of 3miles, and that my
intentional use is to take the vessel out of the state of
California;
then I would be eligible for sales tax exemption. Does anyone have
any first hand knowledge of this or better yet can anyone refer me
to
a California Maritime or Sales Tax Attorney. Thank you Peter Pappas


California sales tax exemption

pjppappas <pjppappas@...>
 

I am a non California resident who is seeking to purchase an Amel
which is based in California. I have been advised that if I purchase
and take possession of the vessel outside of 3miles, and that my
intentional use is to take the vessel out of the state of California;
then I would be eligible for sales tax exemption. Does anyone have
any first hand knowledge of this or better yet can anyone refer me to
a California Maritime or Sales Tax Attorney. Thank you Peter Pappas