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Re: New Subgroup added
I’m doing something wrong. It won’t let me join. Says my address is already registered.
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On Feb 7, 2020, at 2:34 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: New Subgroup added
In the meantime, anyone wishing to join asap, email me and I will directly add you. brouse@...
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Re: New Subgroup added
Groups.io has a bug in the subgroups programming involving joining the subgroup. I have sent them a message. Hopefully, this will be resolved shortly.
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A54 bow thruster directly to battery or through main switches?
Scott SV Tengah
As the title suggests, does the a54, wired as amel intended, place the bow thruster power wires directly to the battery or are those cables connected through the main battery switches?
We're having some intermittent issues with ours and trying to rule everything out. Thanks . -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: New Subgroup added
Great solution. Thx! Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Bahamas
On Feb 7, 2020, at 2:34 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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New Subgroup added
All, We have added a new subgroup that any interested member of the Main Amel Yacht Owners Group can join at will. The Commercial subgroup already has its first posting. Unfortunately, you cannot view the posting without joining the group (see bold below). Commercial Subgroup: This is a place that individuals and companies that have a "commercial" interest in presenting a product or service to members of the Amel Yacht Owners Group can post that information. The method of posting is an email sent to commercial@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Commercial postings can be in any form the poster may desire. Complete contact information should be in the posting so that any interested party can respond directly to the poster, rather than replying to the email posting. All Commercial postings are moderated. The person or company interested in posting does not need to be a member of Amel Yacht Owners Group. They can simply send their commercial email to commercial@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io The postings in any of the subgroups can only be viewed by joining that subgroup (sorry we don't have an option with this). You can join any subgroup at-will and choose NO EMAIL, or other email options. ================================================ Below is the updated Main Group header information which is also shown at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main The Amel Yacht Owners Group has over 1,300 members. Membership is restricted to actual Amel Yacht owners (present and past), those who plan to buy a new or used Amel, or those simply wanting more information about Amel yachts. The Amel Yacht Owners Group is independent and in no way connected to Chantier Amel, La Rochelle, France (www.amel.fr). This group is sponsored and supported by Bill Rouse, owner of Amel Owners Yacht School (http://amelownersyachtschool.com/) specializing in training new owners of Amel yachts and supporting current owners. Amel yacht owner, Bob Rossi, is supporting this group with the following domain: AmelYachtOwnersGroup.com. This URL makes it easy for you to always find our homepage and refer us to other Amel yacht owners. The Group allows a single sponsor to advertise on the Wiki (Help) page. That sponsor contributes to the future cost of maintaining our group on the Groups.io platform. The current sponsor is QSails, manufacturer and worldwide distributor of high-quality sails for Amels. Buying or Selling Amel yachts and/or Amel Parts (Join these subgroups): Want to advertise something that an Amel owner might want?:
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Re: rub rail insert
I obtained my rub rail insert (I call it "scupper") from SAV in Dec 2017 for repairs Liahona ( Hull # 335) sustained during Hurricanes Irma and Maria. The material, including shipping (air freight) to Puerto Rico was $ 2,686 US. Removal of the original scupper is very quick (easily less than one hour), I wasn't present when they inserted the new scupper but did see it done to Liahona's sister boat, "Cloud Street" (Hull # 333 I believe) done a few weeks after my boat was done. I would estimate that it took two workers about 4 hrs per side to install the new scupper material.
Sorry for thread creep: Following hurricane repairs my hull, boot stripe, rub rail, and toe rail (including all hatch surrounds and hatch areas that were matching color) were painted with multiple coats of epoxy primer followed by multiple coats (5 as I recall) of Awlcraft. It was explained and demonstrated to me that re-gel coating damaged areas would lead to excessive porosity and poor outcome. It was further explained to me that Awlcraft was easier to repair than Awlgrip and that is why it was recommended to me. It looks great and my boat maintenance has decreased since I don't have to wax the toe rail and rub rail every couple of months. I choose Awlgrip for my deck-stripe repaint due to it being harder and more abrasion resistant. All the best, Gary S Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 # 335 Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico
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Re: Main foil sheared
Yes it is possible. You'll get complete instructions when we meet next week. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School - www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 11:08 AM Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...> wrote:
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Re: rub rail insert
Patrick McAneny
Steve, I awlgripped my boat 12 yrs. ago, and it looked like a new boat and has looked great for years. A 47 cat (rental boat) drug down on us , at 4am. in Guadeloupe last winter,thus the need for a new paint job. I think I will go with Awlcraft this time ,a bit softer but easily repaired ,unlike Awlgrip. I need to research that a bit more ,but a couple of painters have suggested I consider going with Awlcraft.
Thanks for info,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2020 10:20 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] rub rail insert Hi Pat,
When we had our hull painted in Trinidad in 2016, it took 2 guys half an hour to remove both sides, and about an hour to re-install the old one after I had cleaned it up. I suspect the yard is bidding high because they don’t realize how easy the job is. You will love the look of the paint when it’s done, and ours has held up well. We did the boot stripe in awlgrip desert sand, and in the 2 stripe style of a newer 54...It looks really nice. Steve Davis Aloha SM 72...On the hard in Hawaii
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Main foil sheared
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Hi all,
My main sail foil has sheared off just at the collar that connects it to the furler motor. I note from s similar recent post about a genoa that it may be possible to just lower the foil a few cm and reconnect. Would anyone know if this may be possible with the mainsail foil? I guess I could go up and see how much, if any, excess there is at the top. Failing this, any other solution?
Cheers, Paul S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Engine Mounts and Decoupling Vetus/Engine Block
Herbert Lackner
Woody,
having the Amel shaft alternator you should make the "alignment tool" longer as you have to take away the shaft alternator pulley for doing the alignment. It works if you have the tool according to the spec that you find in the forum, but if I would do it again I would add the width of the pulley to the length of the tool, would make the alignment much easier. the process for the alignment itself is easy, in the water or on the hard, and you find all relevant information in the forum. I had problems to get the vetus coupling of the drive-shaft, but with a hammer, a big puller and a lot of time it worked. herbert, SN120
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Re: Boat insurance Martinique
Hi Miles,
(et al Sailors de Martinique) I land in Fort de France tomorrow at 15:30 and will be in Le Marin until the 22nd. Hope we can connect as I appreciate local sailor knowledge. My email is marafiki37@... Cell is US 818-331-8999 Cheers, Martin Hameline
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Re: Engine Mounts and Decoupling Vetus/Engine Block
Porter McRoberts
A quick question to all:
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We also need to unmount our new Volvo to replace a seal on the c-drive. My question: Boat is currently out of the water and would be easy to do. Should re-allignment of the motor occur in water? Or since we have a rail, is it ok to do on land? I had been told previously that with most sailboats motors must be aligned only in the water secondary to hull flex. Is that also the case with our 54? It seems to be very stiff, and then there the engine rail mount system. Many thanks, Porter McRoberts A54-152 IBIS
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Re: rub rail insert
Stephen Davis
Hi Pat,
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Steering racks for SN, SM & 54
This is to notify you that SAV"at"Amel.fr will have the steering racks available to ship in a few weeks. I understand that they have them, and are currently testing the installation. I would like to point out to everyone that this is really admirable on the part of Amel. When I contacted the US branch of the company that originally made these racks, there was not any desire on their part to make these discontinued racks available. I am not sure if Amel convinced them, or found someone else to make the racks, but in either case, Amel used their expertise and leverage to support owners with a
discontinued
manufacturer's part that Amel has not used since the last 54 was produced. Among boat builders, I believe this is remarkable. I know that Maud and Thierry were very supportive of all of us. Bill
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Engine Mounts and Decoupling Vetus/Engine Block
Alan "Woody" Wood
Hi All
I've got a few jobs that require decoupling the Vetus from the engine block:
I've trawled the threads and got a fair idea of what to do for the most part (I think!), so thanks to all who contributed, but still have a few questions:
Thanks in advance! Woody SM'97
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Re: rub rail insert
Patrick McAneny
Craig, I thought I was being very generous with my estimate of time to remove and replace the insert. I really thought it should only take minutes to take out and maybe a two hours or so to replace. so maybe $400. for labor would be more reasonable ,than $1,600 , They quoted $1000. for the insert ,which is higher than the cost ,about $900. ,but fine ,they have a right to make a profit.
Thanks for your input,
Pat
SM #123
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From: Craig Briggs SN 68 Sangaris via Groups.Io <sangaris@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2020 7:56 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] rub rail insert Hi Pat,
I've removed and replaced mine (after gelcoat touchup) maybe 4 or 5 times. It takes about 5 minutes to take them out and maybe 45 minutes to put them back. Another hour to scrub and rinse before replacing. Cheers, Craig
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Re: rub rail insert
Patrick McAneny
Mike, It was Haven Harbor that gave me the rather high quote. It is a quote that will go to my insurance company and I am reluctant to send it to them, as I think it is too high and may lead them to reject the entire estimate. That is why I am trying to determine a reasonable charge for labor ,before I contact Haven Harbor to see about having the quote adjusted down. Did you have your boat painted with Awlgrip or Awlcraft ? Did they do a good job ? Worton Creek wants to take the masts off ,to put her in a shed for repairs and paint ,probably the correct way to do it ,although more expensive and hassle. Should get their estimate today, I would like to know if you guys were happy with H.H. work. You may know Georgetown went belly up and was auctioned off Jan.14th., could not have happen to a more deserving family . They tried to keep/steal my $10,000 deposit ,and had not touched my boat ,I got it back a week later after going to the police and then the prosecutors and having them charged with felony fraud .I reluctantly dropped the charges after getting my money back. Georgetown is now owned by Safe Harbors ,a large outfit ,that is buying up marinas , about seven on the Bay and 80 total now ,with plans to own around 200 in the next few years.
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...> To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2020 5:58 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] rub rail insert Hi Pat,
Haven Harbor pulled out the gutter to paint the rub rail and then re-inserted the old one. It was part of the overall job and not a broken out line item. I don’t think it was a significant element of their work labor wise. Like so many projects on a boat when you ask somebody to quote the labor they’re going to need to figure high.
Mike Aletes SM 240
On Feb 7, 2020, at 5:41 AM, Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
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Re: rub rail insert
Hi Pat,
I've removed and replaced mine (after gelcoat touchup) maybe 4 or 5 times. It takes about 5 minutes to take them out and maybe 45 minutes to put them back. Another hour to scrub and rinse before replacing. Cheers, Craig
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Re: rub rail insert
Patrick McAneny
Jarek, Maud gave me the quote on the price ,but did not mention it's availability. I assumed they had it in stock.
Pat
SM #123
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From: Jarek Zemlo via Groups.Io <noa_blue@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Fri, Feb 7, 2020 4:44 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] rub rail insert Hello Patric,
I am intending to do the same but can not get the new insert. Contacted AMEL but they replied that they do not have the new for my SM 1997. Where did you get yours if I may ask? I am in Belgium at present reciting my boat and $ 1.600 sounds very high. I guess here I can do this operation fo 50% less if not lower. AMEL quoted EUR 25,95 per running metre for the new insert but they are not sure if this is the correct profile for my SM 1997. Cheers -- Jarek Zemlo NOA BLUE
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