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Re: Rub Rail insert
I’m in for a set for a Super Maramu based near Annapolis in Gloucester VA.
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Should we also do a group order to se if we can get a discount? Mark S/V It’s Good SM #105
On Feb 25, 2020, at 5:21 PM, Charles Bell via Groups.Io <shipbldr2000@...> wrote:
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Re: Bottom paint removal problem
Patrick McAneny
Mark, That is far better than what I've been quoted. Did you have the keel taken down to bare metal? I have some rust and would like to seal it , I wish it was encapsulated lead , iron and water don't mix well. I don't know how one would deal with bottom of the keel,unless it could be arranged to be left in a sling for a couple of days .
Thanks,
Pat
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From: Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 6:10 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bottom paint removal problem Pat,
The cost was $2,861.52. It was done in December 2018. That does not include the cost of haul-out and re-launch. That is just the cost from Osprey to do the soda blasting of the hull. Mark -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Rub Rail insert
Charles Bell
All- I am getting us a quote for a space in a container. I have done this in the past... How many of us are jumping in? Please let me know. I am guessing we will need about 1 cubic meter and will be billed as high-density. I was planning to ship to Annapolis, MD and then break bulk. From there we could reship domestically or you can pick-up. Right now I have Charles (me) and Patrick. Is anyone else jumping in? Charles SV Jupiter Mango #29
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Re: Bottom paint removal problem
Mark McGovern
Pat,
The cost was $2,861.52. It was done in December 2018. That does not include the cost of haul-out and re-launch. That is just the cost from Osprey to do the soda blasting of the hull. Mark -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Bottom paint removal problem
Mark McGovern
Pat,
I have the exact amount somewhere but I do remember that it was under $3000. I will check and let you know. -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Bottom paint removal problem
Patrick McAneny
Mark, I have many dry layers of paint and have wanted to get down to a clean hull. Do you remember what it cost. I got a quote of $6,000. for sand blasting in Rock Hall ,Md.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123
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From: Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 5:17 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bottom paint removal problem As Doug said, it's not close to your desired location but there is a good company that does hull soda-blasting located at our marina Herrington Harbor North located in Deale, MD (~20 miles south of Annapolis) that has over 25 years experience soda blasting hulls and even some experience with Amels. I had them take our hull down to the gelcoat last winter. They did a very thorough yet careful job removing most of the remnants of ~15 years of various bottom paints. Just be sure to "remind" them that you have a cast iron keel.
Here is their contact information: OSPREY MARINE COMPOSITES
301-261-9201 • 410-867-3022 • FX 301-261-5370
-- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Bottom paint removal problem
Mark McGovern
As Doug said, it's not close to your desired location but there is a good company that does hull soda-blasting located at our marina Herrington Harbor North located in Deale, MD (~20 miles south of Annapolis) that has over 25 years experience soda blasting hulls and even some experience with Amels. I had them take our hull down to the gelcoat last winter. They did a very thorough yet careful job removing most of the remnants of ~15 years of various bottom paints. Just be sure to "remind" them that you have a cast iron keel.
Here is their contact information: OSPREY MARINE COMPOSITES
301-261-9201 • 410-867-3022 • FX 301-261-5370
-- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: A55: fresh water pump system : Beam IV on passage from Bonaire towards Santa Marta / Carthagena
Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...>
Hello Joerg & Bill,
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Who ever thought you’d need a bicycle pump on a boat , but you do! We bought this fancy cycle pump in Bonaire ( the old fashion type would be better ) pumped up the accumulator and we have water!! THANK YOU The pump is still running continuously though any ideas on that one? Very best regards & thanks .. Stuart
On 25 Feb 2020, at 01:53, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:
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Re: A55: fresh water pump system
Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...>
Hello Joerg,
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Do we remove the cap to fit the bike pump, (assuming there’s a nipple inside) Thank you , Stuart
On 25 Feb 2020, at 01:53, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:
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Re: Rub Rail insert
Patrick McAneny
Danny, I had not read your previous post about carrying davits and checking them in as baggage. This is good news ,its been many yrs. since I tried to check thru a large object. So I will just roll the two rub rails into the airport, and balance the bumper on my head. Bobs your uncle!
Thanks,
Pat
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From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 4:31 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert You should see the size of boxes that land in NZ as baggage from China, and go out as baggage for departing Chinese. That's not picking on the Chinese, its just a statement of fact.
Regards
Danny
On 26 February 2020 at 09:32 "Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io" <sailw32@...> wrote:
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Re: Rub Rail insert
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
You should see the size of boxes that land in NZ as baggage from China, and go out as baggage for departing Chinese. That's not picking on the Chinese, its just a statement of fact. Regards Danny
On 26 February 2020 at 09:32 "Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io" <sailw32@...> wrote:
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Re: Bottom paint removal problem
Miles
Hi Mark,
I used a chemical paint remover and it worked well. I don’t recall which product I used. Practical Sailor has done thorough comparison tests of the various products. There are contractors around NEB (now Safe Harbor) who will do it. This method will, of course, not hurt the outer gel coat and the Amel water barrier. I remember being surprised at the amount and the weight of the paint that came off. They had to apply the stuff several times to get all of the paint off.
Regards,
Miles s/y Ladybug, Le Marin. Martinique
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Re: Bottom paint removal problem
Doug Smith
Soda blasting is available in the Chesapeake, if not urgent and if you are heading south in the near future.
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I had a previous boat soda blasted a few years ago in Deale Maryland. Thanks, Doug Smith Amel 54-113, Aventura Dugsmith98@...
On Feb 25, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:
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Re: Rub Rail insert
Patrick McAneny
Danny, That is just what I suggested to Diane this morning when I realized they are too big to fit a suitcase. Just roll them in,with a rope handle. Can you still check something thru the size of a tire? Its been years since we used to transport large stuff,I thought there may be new restrictions ,since they have cracked down on baggage in recent yrs.
Thanks,
Pat
SM#123
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From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 3:17 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert Hi Gary and Pat,
You don't have to put your baggage in suitcases. Just wrap it well and if necessary for handling create a handle. Saves weight too. How many surf boards have you seen as baggage. I've seen quite a few
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
On 26 February 2020 at 07:35 "Gary Silver via Groups.Io" <garysilver@...> wrote:
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Re: Rub Rail insert
Patrick McAneny
Charles, Based on pics Bill sent they appear too big to fit in a large suitcase. I may contact the airline and see if we rolled them into the ticket counter if we could check them thru. Years ago, I know we could check in skies ,even a hang glider about 12' long. But times have changed. Now my wife is all excited about a vacation to France,this might backfire on me and cost me twice as much.
So let me know what you come up with,because I would hate to send $1,700 just for shipping,if that is what it would be. Unfortunately Maud cannot provide a quote on shipping. A ship would no doubt be cheaper than Fed Ex Express, and I am in no hurry,by June would be fine.
Thanks,
Pat
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From: Charles Bell via Groups.Io <shipbldr2000@...> To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Feb 25, 2020 2:53 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Rub Rail insert Hello Patrick,
I am refitting and Annapolis MD and need new rub rails as well...
I could help defray the cost of your trip if you can handle another suitcase. Not joking... :)
At this rate, we should consider doing a group buy on an LTL container shipment to the US. I will look into it and report back to the group if I find something.
Charles
SV Jupiter
Mango #29
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Re: Rub Rail insert
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Gary and Pat, You don't have to put your baggage in suitcases. Just wrap it well and if necessary for handling create a handle. Saves weight too. How many surf boards have you seen as baggage. I've seen quite a few Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 26 February 2020 at 07:35 "Gary Silver via Groups.Io" <garysilver@...> wrote:
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Re: Rub Rail insert
Charles Bell
Hello Patrick, I am refitting and Annapolis MD and need new rub rails as well... I could help defray the cost of your trip if you can handle another suitcase. Not joking... :) At this rate, we should consider doing a group buy on an LTL container shipment to the US. I will look into it and report back to the group if I find something. Charles SV Jupiter Mango #29
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Re: Flowjet refrigeration pumps overhaul
Porter McRoberts
On this issue.
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Had a long conversation with Rob at Costal CLimate. As usual, a very knowledgeable guy. His thoughts. Flojets are super reliable, AS long as they aren't drawing a lot of current, i.e. sucking hard against resistance, or pushing against resistance. Often a change in pitch denotes strain, I’ve definitely been guilty of letting that go… and with in a short time, at least with my experience, the pump then fails, and off to either the junk yard, or later a take apart. So now I’ll check amp meter if >1.2 amps check the flow and make sure the water paths are unobstructed. Also… they tell me the frigoboat pump controller is very unreliable, as we've noted on the forum. So… I've ordered 4 (one extra) pump relays (https://www.coastalclimatecontrol.com/index.php/refrigeration/buy-refrigeration-products.html#!/Pump-relay-12v/p/95699277/category=25823698) and 2 24 v pumps as it would have to wired to the 24v bus. Just some thoughts… Porter A54-152
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Re: Bottom paint removal problem
You can buy a soda blaster attachment cheaply enough & soda. I got mine for under 300. Aras 1988 Sharki #163
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Bottom paint removal problem
Mark Pitt
I have owned my Super Maramu since she was launched in 2003. Amel applied a hard bottom paint before launch in 2003 but since then I have only used ablative paint. The layer is now thick and a bit uneven. Having carefully examined the words of caution on the Amel owners group, particularly those of Joel Potter, I have looked in vain for a soda blaster to remove all the old bottom paint. I just cannot find one in Rhode Island. The contractor recommended by my Rhode Island marina uses glass and is apparently very experienced with blasting boat bottoms.
Last week I contacted the large Hinckley repair yard in Portsmouth, RI and it turns out that they do not have access to soda blasting either and use the same glass blasting contractor used by the full service marina where Sabbatical III is stored. Hinckley recommends the glass blasting followed by 5 coats of epoxy (the 5 coats is their rule for European boats). My yard has suggested 3 coats of epoxy as a water barrier.
I had been hoping for soda blasting plus a single coat of epoxy as a primer, on the assumption that the barrier coat under the gel coat would remain intact. I did not expect that it would not be possible to find a soda blasting contractor in Rhode Island (or nearby Massachusetts) who works on boat hulls.
Any suggestions for me? I feel stuck and am inclined to use glass blasting following by 3 or more coats of epoxy as a barrier coat.
Mark Pitt
“Sabbatical III”, SM#419, Wickford, Rhode Island, USA
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