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Maramu window ply interior removal

smiles bernard
 

Hi there fellow Amelians

Thanks to Ian on Ocean Hobo for describing how the interior ply window panels come out on his SN. Apparently remove window screws and bolts and the ply will come away with some persuasion. So in effect the window screws and through bolts hold the ply interior in place on the SN.

Does anyone on the group have direct experience of this on a Maramu? Is it the same ?


I have a troublesome leak on the main coach roof and it’s effecting the ply around the windows and damaging the veneer. Grr.

I am failing to locate the source . I think it’s from the handrail or the main hatch above the table so have tarped these and will apply a process of elimination but the answer probably lies in headliner removal

The headliner ticks under the window ply so hence the question!

I do wish Amel had used screwed into headliner panels. Seems to make so much sense for many reasons and wonder why they didn’t. Can’t imagine it was a cost cutting thing. Perhaps aesthetics but I’d trade those for simplicity. Perhaps the newer models have adopted this ?

All the best and happy sailing for those afloat

Miles
Maramu 162
In the hard !
Plymouth uk


Circuit break switch panel LED back lighting

David Crisp
 

Hi All,

 

Most of the blue LEDs that back light the labels on the AC and DC circuit breaker switch panels are not working.  Wilna Grace is 12 years so it’s either age or not being suitable for the variance in voltage variance (I’m thinking of the 28V one gets when charging batteries). I’m not aboard at the moment so does anyone know the specification of these LED (voltage, luminance etc.)?  I’ll buy some component replacements and then get the soldering iron out and fit them when I get back aboard.

 

Best

David

SV Wilna Grace

Amel 44


Re: Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

Bill Fletcher
 

My MARAMU sn 179 has a 150 headsail that was copied from the original. I am currently sailing South Pacfic and I am thinking of replacing it with a 130. The reason any wind over 15 knots it needs to be reefed to 130 or 100 And the boat preforms better.  My two cents. 
Bill Fletcher 
SN 179


On Nov 3, 2019, at 1:18 AM, James Lochhead <j_lochhead@...> wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone know the %overlap on the original sailplan for the Maramu.  Ours is hull number #147 year 1984.

James


Re: Lip Seals Amel SM

Mike Ondra
 

Thanks Paul.

I appreciate the updates to the list.

Mike

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Osterberg
Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2019 2:30 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lip Seals Amel SM

 

I have updated with a few lip selas and some O rings
Paul


Re: Prop antifouling

JOHN HAYES
 

That is my experience too ie I do it myself. I follow the instructions carefully and it outlasts ablative antifouling

Best

John


On 3/11/2019, at 10:13 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Thanks Ross and Donna. Looks like I need to do it myself cause the pros charge and isnt working.

Regards

Danny

On 03 November 2019 at 22:02 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

Initially we had it done professionally, in various marinas around Auckland, over 15 years. We started putting it on our selves when propspeed put it on the market for general consumer. We found it to be the only product to stick to the stainless steel rudder and it always performed well on the prop. Honestly after 18 months you would swear it had only been done. We always ensured the prep was done properly. 

Regards

Ross and Donna




Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 4:22 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Ross and Donna,

Given your boats name did you have it done in New Zealand? I have had it done professionally in Opua, Auckland and Tauranga. Same result in each case, after six months, hello barnacles.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 09:49 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

We used propspeed on our previous yahct that had a stainless steel rudder and bronze prop. It was a total success and each time after hauling out having done the prop 18 months previous, it was like the propspeed had only been applied the previous day.

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356
INTREPID KIWI


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 7:21 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


 


 

 


 


 


Re: Prop antifouling

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Ross and Donna. Looks like I need to do it myself cause the pros charge and isnt working.

Regards

Danny

On 03 November 2019 at 22:02 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

Initially we had it done professionally, in various marinas around Auckland, over 15 years. We started putting it on our selves when propspeed put it on the market for general consumer. We found it to be the only product to stick to the stainless steel rudder and it always performed well on the prop. Honestly after 18 months you would swear it had only been done. We always ensured the prep was done properly. 

Regards

Ross and Donna




Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 4:22 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Ross and Donna,

Given your boats name did you have it done in New Zealand? I have had it done professionally in Opua, Auckland and Tauranga. Same result in each case, after six months, hello barnacles.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 09:49 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

We used propspeed on our previous yahct that had a stainless steel rudder and bronze prop. It was a total success and each time after hauling out having done the prop 18 months previous, it was like the propspeed had only been applied the previous day.

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356
INTREPID KIWI


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 7:21 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


 


 

 


 


 


Re: Prop antifouling

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Hi Danny,

Initially we had it done professionally, in various marinas around Auckland, over 15 years. We started putting it on our selves when propspeed put it on the market for general consumer. We found it to be the only product to stick to the stainless steel rudder and it always performed well on the prop. Honestly after 18 months you would swear it had only been done. We always ensured the prep was done properly. 

Regards

Ross and Donna

On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 4:22 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Ross and Donna,

Given your boats name did you have it done in New Zealand? I have had it done professionally in Opua, Auckland and Tauranga. Same result in each case, after six months, hello barnacles.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 09:49 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

We used propspeed on our previous yahct that had a stainless steel rudder and bronze prop. It was a total success and each time after hauling out having done the prop 18 months previous, it was like the propspeed had only been applied the previous day.

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356
INTREPID KIWI


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 7:21 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


 


 


Maramu 1984 - Genoa - Original sailpan overlap

James Lochhead
 

Hello,

Does anyone know the %overlap on the original sailplan for the Maramu.  Ours is hull number #147 year 1984.

James


Re: Prop antifouling

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ross and Donna,

Given your boats name did you have it done in New Zealand? I have had it done professionally in Opua, Auckland and Tauranga. Same result in each case, after six months, hello barnacles.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 09:49 " Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via Groups.Io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:

We used propspeed on our previous yahct that had a stainless steel rudder and bronze prop. It was a total success and each time after hauling out having done the prop 18 months previous, it was like the propspeed had only been applied the previous day.

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356
INTREPID KIWI


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 7:21 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


 


 


Re: Prop antifouling

Mohammad Shirloo
 

We’ve also used prop speed for the past 5 years in the Med and have always had good results.

I do also believe the level of success is highly dependent on the application. I had done a fair amount of research and had discussed process with the applicators. I would only allow applicators that were very familiar with the method of application, to do the work.

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo
323-633-2222 Cell
310-454-3148 Fax

On Nov 2, 2019, at 9:41 AM, CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse@...> wrote:

I used PropSpeed with mixed results.

But, while in Turkey I met an American catamaran cruising couple, who loved it. He and his wife had used PropSpeed 6 or 7 times with success. 
  • He said that PropSpeed was only as good as the installation. 
  • He would not allow anyone else to install it...only he and his wife installed it as a team.
  • He said that preparation and following the instructions were very important.
  • He also said that the top coating HAD to be applied so fast after the base coat that it required two people. 
  • He insisted that IT WAS NOT FAST ENOUGH even if you applied the base coat, then immediately applied the top coat. He said a normal prop required two people working as a team: One appling the final base coat with the other immediately behind the first applying the top coat.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 10:26 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

I second the Pettit spray below. This is bar far the best solution I have found for the prop.

 

Unfortunately, I also fell victim to the claims of Propspeed and completely wasted a couple of hundred dollars in Grenada. It barely lasted 3 months.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Salatino via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 8:40 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Prop antifouling

 

I tried PropSpeed 3 separate times. (They certainly are proud of that stuff!)

I had the same results as you. Very unsatisfactory. I tried everything, and finally found a decent solution.

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I use the spray. About $35 US for a can.

I use the whole can on my underwater metal, usually 3 or 4 coats on the prop. I burnish the fully dried paint with a heavy duty scotch brite pad, to expose the zinc (not on the edges, but the flats of the blades).

In an entire season, not a single barnacle or growth of any kind on the prop. And the paint stayed adhered to my stainless prop. I don’t burnish the other underwater metals, and do have some growth on them, so the burnishing is important. I spray the prop once a year.

 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt


On Oct 31, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

Looking for advice- I'm doing a bottom job in 6 weeks. Last year I used Propspeed on my Autoprop and 6 months later there was no evidence of it.....the barnacles however were flourishing. While I enjoy diving I like it better without a scraper in my hand.  Given the cost of Propspeed, 6 months is unacceptable. Would love to know if there's something better out there.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM 2K 422
Bocas del Toro Panama


Re: Prop antifouling

Alan Leslie
 

I have used Propspeed on Elyse and on my previous boat with great success.
The only time it didn't work well was when I left the boat in the water for 4 months in Fiji and the prop grew oysters!
It seems to me it certainly works better if the boat is moving.
We haul out this month for antifoul, C-drive, bow thruster etc and will use Propspeed again.

Someone mentioned grease.....many years ago, BP - Before Propspeed, we used to clean the prop, sand it until it shone, heat it up with a heat gun and then paint lanolin grease onto it. That seemed to work OK, would last a few months, nothing like as good as Propspeed.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Prop antifouling

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

We used propspeed on our previous yahct that had a stainless steel rudder and bronze prop. It was a total success and each time after hauling out having done the prop 18 months previous, it was like the propspeed had only been applied the previous day.

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 7:21 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:

The Propspeed instructions actually say 3-5 minutes between coats. And sounds like nobody on this forum has used Propspeed successfully (themselves). Think I'm going to give the Pettit treatment a try this time.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM2K 422


Re: Plastic part holding most spotlights & lights on SM

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

I’m keen to know how you got on as I too need some replacements.

Regards

Ross and Donna
SM2K #356

On Saturday, November 2, 2019, 8:59 PM, Nicolas Klene via Groups.Io <laixoi@...> wrote:

Hi everybody

I have several of this plastic parts holing the spotlight and lamps on board broken .
i contacted the Italian manufacturer (Cantalupi lighting S.R.L) to no avail,they do not stock it anymore .
anybody has an ersatz, or shall I try 3D printing ?
thanks 
Nick
s/v DarNico-Sm2K #471


Plastic part holding most spotlights & lights on SM

Nicolas Klene
 

Hi everybody

I have several of this plastic parts holing the spotlight and lamps on board broken .
i contacted the Italian manufacturer (Cantalupi lighting S.R.L) to no avail,they do not stock it anymore .
anybody has an ersatz, or shall I try 3D printing ?
thanks 
Nick
s/v DarNico-Sm2K #471


Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent and Ian.

When we were in Shelter Bay marina Colon waiting to transit the Panama canal a staff member of the marina smashed one of the top plates trying to remove the central shaft. I only had two days before we transited and we found an egineeering shop in Colon who turned up a new one in aluminiun.

It  was perfect.

The breakage occured because he applied force instead of heat which is what I had asked him to do. Once the blow torch was subseqently applied the shaft came out easily.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 November 2019 at 00:33 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Ian.  I first had new cabinet pulls made.  That worked out well, so when I had two good gear boxes with three broken covers (the plates on the top and bottom of the gear box), I had those printed, too.  So far they seem to be holding up well.
I agree that 3-D printing will become a very helpful tool with items that aren’t too complicated.  With multiple compound curves it requires a very sophisticated 3-D scanner that drives the cost up a lot, especially for small numbers.

I understand that 3-D printing can also be done with a variety of different metals, but haven’t had a need to try that yet.  Materials can add significantly to the cost as well.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:48 AM, ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Hi Kent,

 Which parts did you have made ?  3-D printing could play a huge role in replacing parts that are no longer in production.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece
 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>
Sent: 01 November 2019 00:33
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Leroy Somer Spare parts
 
I had some made by 3D printing in nylon that seem to be holding up.  Contact Ronan at Pro 3D Printing Services +1 (410) 831-5891

They were $150 each with the cost of design work.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
karkauai@...
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 30, 2019, at 4:16 PM, Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:

He paul ,
We ordert new gaerboxes in Italy and install one new .
It was not expencive
Only the leroy somer motor you ca order it only by amel
It was not possoble to order the motor  by leroy somer

When you intrested i will lock tomorow for some fotos and mre details

Best
Elja
SM Balu 222

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Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

Mike Ondra
 

I wonder how many of Kents parts he has had replicated.
Mike
Aletes SM#240


On Nov 2, 2019, at 2:38 PM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

Kent
How long have you had your 3d printed lids?
Paul


Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

Paul Osterberg
 

Kent
How long have you had your 3d printed lids?
Paul


Re: Lip Seals Amel SM

Paul Osterberg
 

I have updated with a few lip selas and some O rings
Paul


Re: Amel in lower Chesapeake

Mark McGovern
 

Brian,

Your are just a bit too late as everyone is departing this week for points East and South.  We keep our SM in the Middle Chesapeake but that's a four hour drive north.  The Chesapeake Bay really is huge!

Mark


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Leroy Somer Spare parts

Paul Osterberg
 

On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 10:53 AM, Thomas Kleman wrote:
Interesting I have mailed them and ask if they would ship "the Kent part". to me in Portugal 
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259