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Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Jose Venegas
 

It uses the additional halliard above and the hole in the anchor chain roller that seems standard on my boat. Just enough distance from the genoa

Re: Gears of bow thruster worn out after 12 times of use, two questions

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

FWIW, I had a set of gears machined by shop in NZ.  Works well although we use it rarely as we anchor most times.

GL with your repair.

JP Germain, Eleuthera, SM 007



On 17 Jun 2019, at 19:11, Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:

Dear Amelians,

After installing a new kit with gears and bearings from Amel last October and after using the bow thruster not more than 12 times the gears are worn out like in October.

The diagnosis of the mechanic with some experience with Amel boats is that there was too much play between the vertical and horizontal gears and that spacers or shims are needed add to the bearings in order to set the gear wheels in a proper fixed position.

First question: is Amel selling a set of shims with different thickness (0.10 to 0.50 mm)?

Second question: What is your opinion about what the mechanic told me?

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM#351  KAVANGA

Now at anchor near the Aktio marina close to Preveza in Greece 

Re: Gears of bow thruster worn out after 12 times of use, two questions

Mark McGovern
 

Willem,

Can you post some pictures of your gears to show us the wear that you are seeing?  I changed out the bearings on my bowthruster this past winter for no real reason other than the fact that they were 15 years old.  I was surprised with how loose the gears fit together and found that there was a lot of "play" or "slop" in them.  However, there was no appreciable wear on the teeth.  I sent a video to my surveyor Olivier Beaute showing the amount of play and he said it was what he would consider a normal amount of play.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Jose,

That looks like a great system. How is the fuller attached at the bow, and at the mast? 

Thanks,

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:26, Jose Venegas via Groups.Io <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

James,
I have an asymmetric spy on a top-down furling RollGen 20 by Bamar. 
Spy dimensions:
Luff=17.07mtr
Leech=15.4 mtr
Foot=7.9mtr
SMG=7.105mtr

I have enjoyed it for more than 6 years with the main advantage of being able to deploy and furl back with just my wife, something that is a major plus for me.  Also, it takes a lot of turns to furl but we use the electric winch to do it.
It is also important to make sure that the apparent wind is not less than 90 degrees or more than ~150 degrees to furl correctly.
A couple of times we totally lost all wind and furling could be done poorly and had to be redone as soon as we got back some wind. 
Here are a couple of  pix of Ipanema under spy

Jose 
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Boston
 <P1030878.JPG.JPG><IMG_3296.jpg.jpg>asym.

 

Re: Gears of bow thruster worn out after 12 times of use, two questions

Alan Leslie
 

Willem,
When we replaced bow thruster parts in Fiji last year, Amel told us this :

-Bowthruster mechanism (see photo): the parts composing this mechanism cannot be sold separately as everything is perfectly adjusted together (especially the gears and shaft and black cap) to avoid any failure in the system. The price is 582.40 euros without taxes and without transport.

I am sure you can find the roller bearing locally. I can give you the exact SKF reference if needed. 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Petrol questions/survey

Alan Leslie
 

Ouch !

I have seen stanchions / lifelines damaged on boats that had "stuff" lashed to them after tough up wind passages.
Our SSB tuner is not in the lazarette, nor do we have power supplies or outlets in there.
Our fuel tank doesn't smell and doesn't leak.

Sorry

Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Jose Venegas
 

James,
I have an asymmetric spy on a top-down furling RollGen 20 by Bamar. 
Spy dimensions:
Luff=17.07mtr
Leech=15.4 mtr
Foot=7.9mtr
SMG=7.105mtr

I have enjoyed it for more than 6 years with the main advantage of being able to deploy and furl back with just my wife, something that is a major plus for me.  Also, it takes a lot of turns to furl but we use the electric winch to do it.
It is also important to make sure that the apparent wind is not less than 90 degrees or more than ~150 degrees to furl correctly.
A couple of times we totally lost all wind and furling could be done poorly and had to be redone as soon as we got back some wind. 
Here are a couple of  pix of Ipanema under spy

Jose 
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Boston
 asym.

 

Re: Furuno Weather Fax do not get much and have switched to Navtex but to be frank the internet apps are more practical. Depends where you are.

ngtnewington Newington
 

Nick again, I have to admit though that it is probably going to be a service that will not survive the internet. It is free to the user and paid for by presumably various government agencies. This kind of “soft” power was very valuable in the good old days. Now I am not sure. A bit like the BBC world service.......or VOA.
Nick
Amelia Corfu town 
AML 54-019


On 17 Jun 2019, at 21:56, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Love my weather fax but it depends where. Across the North Atlantic, Halifax Nova Scotia pumped out great charts as did UK. In the Med it is a different story. 
Nick
Amelia in Corfu 
AML 54-019



On 17 Jun 2019, at 04:41, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello everyone - 

I'd like to ask of those on the forum who uses their Weatherfax units?  I don't even know to use the one on my boat.  It seems to me that it may be a legacy item and no longer serves much use because of newer and less bulky technology.

I'd like to know how many of you use this!

Thanks!
James
Soteria SM347.  Le Marin

Re: Furuno Weather Fax do not get much and have switched to Navtex but to be frank the internet apps are more practical. Depends where you are.

ngtnewington Newington
 

Love my weather fax but it depends where. Across the North Atlantic, Halifax Nova Scotia pumped out great charts as did UK. In the Med it is a different story. 
Nick
Amelia in Corfu 
AML 54-019



On 17 Jun 2019, at 04:41, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello everyone - 

I'd like to ask of those on the forum who uses their Weatherfax units?  I don't even know to use the one on my boat.  It seems to me that it may be a legacy item and no longer serves much use because of newer and less bulky technology.

I'd like to know how many of you use this!

Thanks!
James
Soteria SM347.  Le Marin

Re: Sailing /Rowing dinghy

Eric Meury
 

We went tjr Portaboat route.   We have a 8hp two stroke and also have inflatable dinghy dogs for it so it is extremely stable and we can snorkle off the sides.   All in all it is the dinghy I hate the least


On Mon, Jun 17, 2019, 2:33 PM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Bill, I agree with you, we have not needed to use our dinghy to propel us yet,but review how we would do that,in case we need to deploy in an emergency. I also have rescued a sailboat just before it was going up on a reef on the south coast of Grenada with my rib and its 18 hp two stroke. We also dinghy miles to snorkel and get groceries . Our 10.5 aluminum rib only weighs 98 lbs. ,we love it and it can do 25 to 30 mph in flat water ,just measured by my brother next to me on his jet ski the other day. BTW, we store two six gal. fuel tanks tied to the stanchions ,one is normally in the dinghy.
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jun 16, 2019 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sailing /Rowing dinghy

One downside is that what you have will not propel your boat to safety when necessary. If you have considered this and are OK with it, fine. But, if you haven't considered this, you need to re-think. You are going to places that you will need to self-rescue, and/or move your boat when you have no wind and no motor. It is hard to beat all of the advantages of a traditional RIB with a 10-20hp 2 cycle motor. I know of 2 SMs which were moved away from dangerous situations with a dinghy lashed to the stern quarter.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 10:48 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all,
Last year we built a 11.5 ft sailing/rowing dinghy in hopes that it would work as a tender instead of carrying gasoline and gasoline motor(s).  RIBs are nearly impossible to row, can’t sail them, but they are very stable and carry 4 people easily.

The Dink we built is a Chesapeake Light Craft PassageMaker design that was originally sold as a nesting hull.  It’s 11.5 ft LOA , rows easily, and sails well.  When both parts are bolted together it only weighs ~95 lbs.  Sounds great so far, eh?

Here are the down sides:
*It doesn’t truly nest.  So we’re now storing 11.5ft of hull in two parts.  The bigger aft part sets nicely on the aft deck,  we weren’t comfortable lashing the bow section on the forward deck, so it ended up on the aft deck over the lazarette...so we can’t access the lazarette at sea without moving it.

*It is so lightly built that it bounces around pretty violently when alongside Kristy in any kind of chop.  It is also under built and we had to add strength to the bulkheads where the pieces bolt together because of cracks that developed at the joint between planks and bulkheads.

*The rig is a gunter style Marconi sloop with a small jib.  It takes about 45 min to rig and derig.  It sails well but can’t be reefed as currently set up.  With the gunter spar it would take a major overhaul to rig for reefing and it would be an involved process, not something that would be easy and quick. When rigged and not sailing the boom is in the way of rowing.  

*It will carry 4 adults, but doing that and sailing would be impossible, I think.

We bought a Torqeedo electric outboard which pushes her along adequately, but it isn’t built tough enough for daily use in salt water.

i guess we will have to go back to the RIB and gas outboard.  Hoping someone out there has experience with a great nesting dinghy that’s truly built for use as a cruising tender.  There are a couple others that look better than the CLC PassageMaker but probably have many of the same issues.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243

Re: bow locker water.

 

Steve,

I do not know what you mean by the "bow thruster breathing pipe." Photo?

Some thoughts:
  1. Are the 2 bow lockers completely sealed at the bottom and sides?
  2. Is the original "D" profile gasket/seal in place and not deformed by compression?
  3. Is the anchor wash stainless steel pipe still in place and is it sealed where it connects to the deck?
  4. Is the anchor chain hawse pipe in the starboard locker without any cracks or holes? Photo, especially at top?
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 12:06 PM steve b via Groups.Io <stevect=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi All.
          We have just purchased a sm 2000 (378). The previous owner has had a small issue of water in the bow locker not a lot just one or two cups.
We have tried to find any leaks by sealing each locker and shining a bright light around the seals etc.and previously hosing down the lockers whilst also inside to find any leaks to no avail.
Recently the yacht was in the carribean and we had a lot of saragosi weed and upon arriving in the med and cleaning out the lockers we found a lot of seeds from this weed therefore where ever the water is coming  in must be large enough for the seeds to come through we have come to the following possibility that the water is actually coming through the bow thrusters breather pipe. the only way we will test this is by placing some tissue or something similar on the top of the pipe to see if it gets wet.
As we will not be on the boat for another few months i just wondered if anyone has had the same issue and can confirm this can be a possibiity.


regards

steve

sm378
Dusk

bow locker water.

Steve Bell s/y Dusk SM378
 

Hi All.
          We have just purchased a sm 2000 (378). The previous owner has had a small issue of water in the bow locker not a lot just one or two cups.
We have tried to find any leaks by sealing each locker and shining a bright light around the seals etc.and previously hosing down the lockers whilst also inside to find any leaks to no avail.
Recently the yacht was in the carribean and we had a lot of saragosi weed and upon arriving in the med and cleaning out the lockers we found a lot of seeds from this weed therefore where ever the water is coming  in must be large enough for the seeds to come through we have come to the following possibility that the water is actually coming through the bow thrusters breather pipe. the only way we will test this is by placing some tissue or something similar on the top of the pipe to see if it gets wet.
As we will not be on the boat for another few months i just wondered if anyone has had the same issue and can confirm this can be a possibiity.


regards

steve

sm378
Dusk

Re: TMD22 Emergency Shutoff

Gary Wells
 
Edited

I've since wrapped a piece of bright tape around the lever and have a similarly bright zip-tie, without being snipped, to help show the way to the shutoff lever.

I know the topic's old but wanted to share that I have indeed tried this shutoff and it works perfectly and without harm.

Re: Furuno Weather Fax

James Cromie
 

haha!  

On Jun 16, 2019, at 10:31 PM, Craig Briggs via Groups.Io <sangaris@...> wrote:

James,   
They make OK dinghy anchors.
Then again, they are kind of bullet proof as legacy technology should you not have newer replacements and DIY weather forecasting is kind of cool if you're into that.
This is why they make chocolate and vanilla. 
Craig

Re: Petrol questions/survey

 

Joel,

Totally agree.

And, foredeck storage is good when you are stern-to in a marina.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 8:33 AM amelforme <jfpottercys@...> wrote:

Another 2 cents…

If you can smell the aroma of gasoline, it is explosive.

As Mark said, the SSB tuner is NOT a spark or arc proof unit and it says so on the installation instructions. It is not unusual for them to make sparks capable of ignition of gasoline vapors. Gasoline vapor is much heavier than atmosphere and difficult to displace. The Amel 54 has special lockers on the port side for all flammables on board including gasoline as was a major request from SM 53 owners we asked/heard from.

I have resold two SM 53 where the furthest aft bulkhead in the owners cabin was displaced forward when the SSB tuner ignited gasoline vapors. This bulkhead is the weak link in an overpressure situation of the aft deck locker. In is not an inexpensive repair to do correctly.

Gasoline containers secured on the aft deck are less likely to get swept and cause damage to the stanchions, as they are generally travelling away from the boarding wave which diminishes the initial ‘pop’ of the wave strike. Containers on the foredeck area have the force of the wave strike increased by the speed that the boat is travelling increasing the initial pop which is the part of the wave action that does the most damage. I have seen stanchions that were twisted from this. Most damage to the life line tubes is caused by large people sitting on the middle of the span. I have spent a lot of time straightening bent stanchions and lifelines in preparing an otherwise nice listing for sale, it is tedious and not much fun.

 

Have fun with your Amel, Joel

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey

 

Mark, I also agree with you, I sometimes see some small amount of leakage of gas from tanks due to heat and expansion and would never store gas below for the reason you stated . I store my tanks far aft ,where they are less prone to be impacted by waves. 

Pat

SM #123

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 7:53 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey

I often see world cruisers with cans lashed to stanchions. It seems many of the boats on which I observe this have a set up not as solid as Amel. I have never once heard of a large wave causing damage due to cans lashed. Improperly lashed, maybe. But not damage just because of the location. So I have to ask the question, has this ever happened?

 

We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions.
One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions.”

(my 2¢) My school of thought is I would rather repair stanchion damage due to a freak wave (if this is possible) than to file an insurance claim because the back end of my boat blow up from gasoline fumes. In my lazarette there are several items that could spark highly explosive gas fumes such as a short in the SSB antenna tuner, outlets or power supplies. Plastic gas cans are not immune to leakage and the threat of a leak can be amplified by abrasion during passages. Gasoline fumes are highly explosive (and heavier than air) and should never be stored in an area not adequately vented.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey

 

1. 10 litre 
2. External outboard motor tank
3. Lazarette - the tank doesn't leak
4. No and I wouldn't do that

We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions.
One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Gears of bow thruster worn out after 12 times of use, two questions

 

If your bow thruster needs shims, it is the first time I have heard of this issue.

How much oil was in the bow thruster when the overhaul was done and the bow thruster reinstalled?

What type of oil did you use?

How much oil and/or water was in the bow thruster when you discovered the gears worn this time?

Do you know if the horizontal shaft is original? Is it worn? Did you replace it when the gears were replaced?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 2:11 AM Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:
Dear Amelians,

After installing a new kit with gears and bearings from Amel last October and after using the bow thruster not more than 12 times the gears are worn out like in October.

The diagnosis of the mechanic with some experience with Amel boats is that there was too much play between the vertical and horizontal gears and that spacers or shims are needed add to the bearings in order to set the gear wheels in a proper fixed position.

First question: is Amel selling a set of shims with different thickness (0.10 to 0.50 mm)?

Second question: What is your opinion about what the mechanic told me?

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM#351  KAVANGA

Now at anchor near the Aktio marina close to Preveza in Greece 

Re: Petrol questions/survey

amelforme
 

Another 2 cents…

If you can smell the aroma of gasoline, it is explosive.

As Mark said, the SSB tuner is NOT a spark or arc proof unit and it says so on the installation instructions. It is not unusual for them to make sparks capable of ignition of gasoline vapors. Gasoline vapor is much heavier than atmosphere and difficult to displace. The Amel 54 has special lockers on the port side for all flammables on board including gasoline as was a major request from SM 53 owners we asked/heard from.

I have resold two SM 53 where the furthest aft bulkhead in the owners cabin was displaced forward when the SSB tuner ignited gasoline vapors. This bulkhead is the weak link in an overpressure situation of the aft deck locker. In is not an inexpensive repair to do correctly.

Gasoline containers secured on the aft deck are less likely to get swept and cause damage to the stanchions, as they are generally travelling away from the boarding wave which diminishes the initial ‘pop’ of the wave strike. Containers on the foredeck area have the force of the wave strike increased by the speed that the boat is travelling increasing the initial pop which is the part of the wave action that does the most damage. I have seen stanchions that were twisted from this. Most damage to the life line tubes is caused by large people sitting on the middle of the span. I have spent a lot of time straightening bent stanchions and lifelines in preparing an otherwise nice listing for sale, it is tedious and not much fun.

 

Have fun with your Amel, Joel

 

          JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C.

                                           THE  EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                   Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 8:44 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey

 

Mark, I also agree with you, I sometimes see some small amount of leakage of gas from tanks due to heat and expansion and would never store gas below for the reason you stated . I store my tanks far aft ,where they are less prone to be impacted by waves. 

Pat

SM #123

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 7:53 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey

I often see world cruisers with cans lashed to stanchions. It seems many of the boats on which I observe this have a set up not as solid as Amel. I have never once heard of a large wave causing damage due to cans lashed. Improperly lashed, maybe. But not damage just because of the location. So I have to ask the question, has this ever happened?

 

We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions.
One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions.”

(my 2¢) My school of thought is I would rather repair stanchion damage due to a freak wave (if this is possible) than to file an insurance claim because the back end of my boat blow up from gasoline fumes. In my lazarette there are several items that could spark highly explosive gas fumes such as a short in the SSB antenna tuner, outlets or power supplies. Plastic gas cans are not immune to leakage and the threat of a leak can be amplified by abrasion during passages. Gasoline fumes are highly explosive (and heavier than air) and should never be stored in an area not adequately vented.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey

 

1. 10 litre 
2. External outboard motor tank
3. Lazarette - the tank doesn't leak
4. No and I wouldn't do that

We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions.
One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Petrol questions/survey

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Thanks to all for your time in replying. The rear small cockpit lockers are vented or at least a drain hole in the bottom. Port side cockpit locker will fit my 6 gal yamaha tank that came with the dinghy. These are great quality tanks. It fits perfectly there. Is that sufficient ventilation?

On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 1:42 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
1. 10 litre 
2. External outboard motor tank
3. Lazarette - the tank doesn't leak
4. No and I wouldn't do that

We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions.
One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

James Cromie
 

It helps tremendously Joerg.  Sounds like I need both!
-James

On Jun 17, 2019, at 2:37 AM, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

James, my Code Zero is 100 m2 and the cloth is relatively light so it be used only up to 14 knots of apparent wind.  I chose the code zero because it is I am able to use it closer to the wind than a standard asym and I have a Parasailor as well for downwind work.  In light air, the apparent wind angle moves forward dramatically when the boat gets going.  So if I want to sail at a true wind angle of 90 because my course over the ground is in that direction, the apparent wind angle could be something like 60 degrees.  I also use the Code 0 in light running conditions because the Parasailor is no good in less than 7 Knots (and because the Code zero is much easier to set up than the Parasailor.  It really depends on how you would use the spinnaker.  I tend to sail rather than motor even in the very light stuff if I can get a sail to draw without banging.  If you always motor in below, say, 8 knots of true wind, just get a AP asym or a parasailor.  The Genoa will be fine in those conditions for reaching.  I hope that helps.   

Re: Petrol questions/survey

Patrick McAneny
 

Mark, I also agree with you, I sometimes see some small amount of leakage of gas from tanks due to heat and expansion and would never store gas below for the reason you stated . I store my tanks far aft ,where they are less prone to be impacted by waves. 
Pat
SM #123


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Jun 17, 2019 7:53 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey

I often see world cruisers with cans lashed to stanchions. It seems many of the boats on which I observe this have a set up not as solid as Amel. I have never once heard of a large wave causing damage due to cans lashed. Improperly lashed, maybe. But not damage just because of the location. So I have to ask the question, has this ever happened?
 
We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions.
One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions.”

(my 2¢) My school of thought is I would rather repair stanchion damage due to a freak wave (if this is possible) than to file an insurance claim because the back end of my boat blow up from gasoline fumes. In my lazarette there are several items that could spark highly explosive gas fumes such as a short in the SSB antenna tuner, outlets or power supplies. Plastic gas cans are not immune to leakage and the threat of a leak can be amplified by abrasion during passages. Gasoline fumes are highly explosive (and heavier than air) and should never be stored in an area not adequately vented.
 
With best regards,
 
Mark
 
Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama
www.creampuff.us
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 1:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Petrol questions/survey
 
1. 10 litre 
2. External outboard motor tank
3. Lazarette - the tank doesn't leak
4. No and I wouldn't do that

We NEVER have anything lashed to the stanchions.
One decent wave and it would be gone and damage the stanchions.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437