Date   
Re: problem with the Climma

 

Your Amel has a compressor start and a compressor run capacitor. They are inside the white control box.

The thermostat, wiring, thermocouple, thermostat control board, system control board, or Compressor could be faulty. 

I would check in this order of probability:
Start and Run Capacitors
Thermostat
Wiring connections
PCBs (2)
Thermocouple
Compressor
Refrigerant level
Water flow
Fan speed (flow)

If you don't know how to do these things, hire an expert.

Your Climmas are over 20 years old and beyond end of life. You will very likely be replacing them in the near future. Consider this. 


Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Jul 28, 2019, 6:47 AM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Lior,

 

This sounds typical of the compressor start capacitor failing.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lior Keydar via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 7:18 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] problem with the Climma

 

Hi all

When I start the climma, the compressor starts to work only by the minimum temp. of 18 degree (the others starts at higher temp).
If I put the temp a bit higher the compressor stops. Until now everything is ok, only the temperature is not correct. When I put the  temperature down again, the compressor wants to start but it doesn't and then the 220 switch in the galley switch off. I measured all the capacitors and they are ok. Does anyone has any idea what the problem could be?

Thanks a lot in advance

Lior, SHARONA A54 #018

Re: problem with the Climma

Mark Erdos
 

Lior,

 

This sounds typical of the compressor start capacitor failing.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lior Keydar via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2019 7:18 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] problem with the Climma

 

Hi all

When I start the climma, the compressor starts to work only by the minimum temp. of 18 degree (the others starts at higher temp).
If I put the temp a bit higher the compressor stops. Until now everything is ok, only the temperature is not correct. When I put the  temperature down again, the compressor wants to start but it doesn't and then the 220 switch in the galley switch off. I measured all the capacitors and they are ok. Does anyone has any idea what the problem could be?

Thanks a lot in advance

Lior, SHARONA A54 #018

problem with the Climma

Lior Keydar <sharona246@...>
 

Hi all

When I start the climma, the compressor starts to work only by the minimum temp. of 18 degree (the others starts at higher temp).
If I put the temp a bit higher the compressor stops. Until now everything is ok, only the temperature is not correct. When I put the  temperature down again, the compressor wants to start but it doesn't and then the 220 switch in the galley switch off. I measured all the capacitors and they are ok. Does anyone has any idea what the problem could be?

Thanks a lot in advance

Lior, SHARONA A54 #018

Re: B&G issues

Paul Brown
 

Thanks Joerg 

I have found the issue, the SOG was not activated in the H3000 set up. All is ok now, but it will improve more once I calabrate all parameters 

Thanks Paul 


On 28 Jul 2019, at 10:19 am, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Paul, i, too, have had a failure of the sonic speed transducer but the new one - a much revised model Airmar I’m told - has been working flawlessly for 2 years.  If you do not have a BSP reading, you should check what the source of BSP is in the Settings Menu, likely under „system“  If it is the Airmar transducer, you should switch it to the paddle wheel (which is part of the depth and sea temp transducer, which is likely a dst200) and see whether you have BSP.   If you do, replace the sonic speed.  I would contact Stéphane at Pochon for this.  He may be able to get you a new one for free because the old one had known problems, but at least he will be able to tell you which type to get.  I’m not on the boat but can give you that info in late August if you still need it.   If you don’t see BSP with the paddle wheel either, you should check the other settings. Again, I can help in late August. 

You need BSP (or better yet, the drift corrected STW) to calculate the true wind direction and speed that you are seeing on the water - ie the wind speed and direction you need to make decisions whether to tack or gybe, for example, or to calibrate your wind instruments.  You could use SOG, but then you are calculating the TWD and TWS without any current effect and since the boat is sailing in the current, this will give you wrong info.    Even in the Med, current can make a significant difference.  

Joerg Esdorn 
A55 #53
Kincsem

Re: B&G issues

Joerg Esdorn
 

Paul, i, too, have had a failure of the sonic speed transducer but the new one - a much revised model Airmar I’m told - has been working flawlessly for 2 years.  If you do not have a BSP reading, you should check what the source of BSP is in the Settings Menu, likely under „system“  If it is the Airmar transducer, you should switch it to the paddle wheel (which is part of the depth and sea temp transducer, which is likely a dst200) and see whether you have BSP.   If you do, replace the sonic speed.  I would contact Stéphane at Pochon for this.  He may be able to get you a new one for free because the old one had known problems, but at least he will be able to tell you which type to get.  I’m not on the boat but can give you that info in late August if you still need it.   If you don’t see BSP with the paddle wheel either, you should check the other settings. Again, I can help in late August. 

You need BSP (or better yet, the drift corrected STW) to calculate the true wind direction and speed that you are seeing on the water - ie the wind speed and direction you need to make decisions whether to tack or gybe, for example, or to calibrate your wind instruments.  You could use SOG, but then you are calculating the TWD and TWS without any current effect and since the boat is sailing in the current, this will give you wrong info.    Even in the Med, current can make a significant difference.  

Joerg Esdorn 
A55 #53
Kincsem

Re: B&G issues

Paul Brown
 

That’s interesting Bill, I too am not a smart sailor but want to be and learn every step of the way I hope. I will look into the black box as I am appreciating more  that all elements need to be calculated and calibrated correctly but I have relied on technicians to set things over many years but should learn to do these tests independently.

I was under the impression that SOG or STW is a reference for the wind and current but obviously there is more two it,, back to study

Thank you again for the great leads and your kind contributions and knowledge, again a great help, very appreciated 

Regards Paul 


On 27 Jul 2019, at 7:13 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Paul,

You are welcome. Some things are very difficult to sort out. Also, it is difficult to diagnose via email, but I am usually luckier than wrong.😀😀

To take this a step further. There are more than a few Amel owners who have lost SOW mostly because of faulty B&G Sonic Speed Sensors. A significant number of those do nothing because they say they have SOG on GPS. Without SOW, TWA and TWS are not accurate. Because I am not a smart sailor, I wanted and used TWA and TWS all of the time. TWA and TWS can be calculated using SOG, but you have to use a black box from A&T Electronics to convert the SOG data to SOW data before it is read by the B&G processor.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 11:21 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Thank you very much Bill, I just found the issue, you lead me to the SOW being the reference for wind and the SOG was not referenced or switched on in the H3000 set up so now it’s activated alls working. I must have switched it off along the way or there’s a gremlin lurking 

Thanks to all for the community support its a great help

Kind regards Paul 55#17


On 27 Jul 2019, at 4:37 pm, Paul Brown via Groups.Io <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Thank you Bill for the help, I have recently replaced the paddle wheel and as mentioned under motor the other day the issues seemed to rectify for the rest of that journey, with accurate wind and speed through the water, so I am now suspecting an intermittent issue as a possibility also.

I will be visiting Palma Mallorca early in the week so hopefully get a good B&G technician aboard 


Kind regards Paul 



On 27 Jul 2019, at 2:54 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

TWS and TWA are mathematically calculated by the H3000 processor and the calculation requires accurate  SOW input. 

You mentioned that you have no SOW. My guess is either your Sonic Speed or Paddlewheel transducers are not working properly, or a defective H3000 processor.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 3:37 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Hello all,

im inquiring if someone can assist, my B&G H3000 has an issue with regards to displaying the TWS as the AWS and the AWA as the AWS so both are the same, with no displaying of the TWS. Also the boat speed is not displaying despite the paddle wheel being operable.

if I run the engine the displaying of the TWS and AWS and boat speed functions as normal but then when the engine is off and we are sailing the issue continues.

any assistance would be appreciated 

thank you Paul Brown 55#17

Re: B&G issues

 

Paul,

You are welcome. Some things are very difficult to sort out. Also, it is difficult to diagnose via email, but I am usually luckier than wrong.😀😀

To take this a step further. There are more than a few Amel owners who have lost SOW mostly because of faulty B&G Sonic Speed Sensors. A significant number of those do nothing because they say they have SOG on GPS. Without SOW, TWA and TWS are not accurate. Because I am not a smart sailor, I wanted and used TWA and TWS all of the time. TWA and TWS can be calculated using SOG, but you have to use a black box from A&T Electronics to convert the SOG data to SOW data before it is read by the B&G processor.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 11:21 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Thank you very much Bill, I just found the issue, you lead me to the SOW being the reference for wind and the SOG was not referenced or switched on in the H3000 set up so now it’s activated alls working. I must have switched it off along the way or there’s a gremlin lurking 

Thanks to all for the community support its a great help

Kind regards Paul 55#17


On 27 Jul 2019, at 4:37 pm, Paul Brown via Groups.Io <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Thank you Bill for the help, I have recently replaced the paddle wheel and as mentioned under motor the other day the issues seemed to rectify for the rest of that journey, with accurate wind and speed through the water, so I am now suspecting an intermittent issue as a possibility also.

I will be visiting Palma Mallorca early in the week so hopefully get a good B&G technician aboard 


Kind regards Paul 



On 27 Jul 2019, at 2:54 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

TWS and TWA are mathematically calculated by the H3000 processor and the calculation requires accurate  SOW input. 

You mentioned that you have no SOW. My guess is either your Sonic Speed or Paddlewheel transducers are not working properly, or a defective H3000 processor.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 3:37 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Hello all,

im inquiring if someone can assist, my B&G H3000 has an issue with regards to displaying the TWS as the AWS and the AWA as the AWS so both are the same, with no displaying of the TWS. Also the boat speed is not displaying despite the paddle wheel being operable.

if I run the engine the displaying of the TWS and AWS and boat speed functions as normal but then when the engine is off and we are sailing the issue continues.

any assistance would be appreciated 

thank you Paul Brown 55#17

Re: B&G issues

Paul Brown
 

Thank you very much Bill, I just found the issue, you lead me to the SOW being the reference for wind and the SOG was not referenced or switched on in the H3000 set up so now it’s activated alls working. I must have switched it off along the way or there’s a gremlin lurking 

Thanks to all for the community support its a great help

Kind regards Paul 55#17


On 27 Jul 2019, at 4:37 pm, Paul Brown via Groups.Io <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Thank you Bill for the help, I have recently replaced the paddle wheel and as mentioned under motor the other day the issues seemed to rectify for the rest of that journey, with accurate wind and speed through the water, so I am now suspecting an intermittent issue as a possibility also.

I will be visiting Palma Mallorca early in the week so hopefully get a good B&G technician aboard 


Kind regards Paul 



On 27 Jul 2019, at 2:54 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

TWS and TWA are mathematically calculated by the H3000 processor and the calculation requires accurate  SOW input. 

You mentioned that you have no SOW. My guess is either your Sonic Speed or Paddlewheel transducers are not working properly, or a defective H3000 processor.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 3:37 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Hello all,

im inquiring if someone can assist, my B&G H3000 has an issue with regards to displaying the TWS as the AWS and the AWA as the AWS so both are the same, with no displaying of the TWS. Also the boat speed is not displaying despite the paddle wheel being operable.

if I run the engine the displaying of the TWS and AWS and boat speed functions as normal but then when the engine is off and we are sailing the issue continues.

any assistance would be appreciated 

thank you Paul Brown 55#17

Re: B&G issues

Paul Brown
 

Thank you Bill for the help, I have recently replaced the paddle wheel and as mentioned under motor the other day the issues seemed to rectify for the rest of that journey, with accurate wind and speed through the water, so I am now suspecting an intermittent issue as a possibility also.

I will be visiting Palma Mallorca early in the week so hopefully get a good B&G technician aboard 


Kind regards Paul 



On 27 Jul 2019, at 2:54 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

TWS and TWA are mathematically calculated by the H3000 processor and the calculation requires accurate  SOW input. 

You mentioned that you have no SOW. My guess is either your Sonic Speed or Paddlewheel transducers are not working properly, or a defective H3000 processor.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 3:37 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Hello all,

im inquiring if someone can assist, my B&G H3000 has an issue with regards to displaying the TWS as the AWS and the AWA as the AWS so both are the same, with no displaying of the TWS. Also the boat speed is not displaying despite the paddle wheel being operable.

if I run the engine the displaying of the TWS and AWS and boat speed functions as normal but then when the engine is off and we are sailing the issue continues.

any assistance would be appreciated 

thank you Paul Brown 55#17

Re: interesting quote

Mike Ondra
 

And some of my favorites:

“A boat gets 1 foot shorter per person per day.”

and

“The gods do not deduct from our allotted time those hours spent in sailing.” Ascribed to a Phoenician proverb.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Chesapeake Bay

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 10:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

There are indeed some awesome quotes here. Thanks so much for sharing. I have a new favorite now: “Waves are not measured in feet or inches, they are measured in increments of fear.” – Buzzy Trent

I have to laugh at the “Twenty years from now…” being attributed to Mark Twain. I see this all the time on peoples blogs and FaceBook etc. It is a motto so many cruisers use as the credo for their lifestyle. But, Mark Twain never actually said or wrote this. It has to be the most incorrectly attributed quote of all time.

 

The first time this quote ever appeared in print was pretty recently in 1990. It is in a book by the bestselling author H. Jackson Brown, Jr. He published the work containing the quotation, but he did not take credit for it. The book “P.S. I Love You” contained a collection of wise aphorisms from Brown’s mother, Sarah Frances Brown. Each page contained one thought, and this quote was printed on page 13. Each remark was prefaced with “P.S.” and ended with “I love you, Mom”. I guess attributing it to Mark Twain is more impactful than the actual person deserving of the credit, Sarah Frances Brown.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 10:10 PM
To:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

I got that quote from here.

There are some great sayings here.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

https://themusterstation.com/ocean-quotes/

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 8:53 PM
To:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

Does this mean we are stuck between alive and dead – {smile} Isn’t this call being a zombie?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:23 PM
To:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

There are three sorts of people; those who are alive, those who are dead, and those who are at sea.”
– Old Capstan Chantey attributed to Anacharsis, 6th Century BC

 

Re: B&G issues

 

TWS and TWA are mathematically calculated by the H3000 processor and the calculation requires accurate  SOW input. 

You mentioned that you have no SOW. My guess is either your Sonic Speed or Paddlewheel transducers are not working properly, or a defective H3000 processor.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 3:37 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Hello all,

im inquiring if someone can assist, my B&G H3000 has an issue with regards to displaying the TWS as the AWS and the AWA as the AWS so both are the same, with no displaying of the TWS. Also the boat speed is not displaying despite the paddle wheel being operable.

if I run the engine the displaying of the TWS and AWS and boat speed functions as normal but then when the engine is off and we are sailing the issue continues.

any assistance would be appreciated 

thank you Paul Brown 55#17

Re: B&G issues

Paul Brown
 

Thank you Tony, I will certainly contact Sarah on Monday, I’ve found the H3000 to be working ok except for this recent issue which I’m hoping it’s a simple fix like a low power or setup problem.

Thanks again and much appreciated

Paul 55#17


On 27 Jul 2019, at 1:12 pm, tony wells via Groups.Io <tony.wells@...> wrote:

Hi Paul

If you’re unable to solve the problem via the forum then Sarah at A&T (formerly Tinley Electronics) in Lymington, UK maybe able to help. Bill Rouse introduced me to them. They’ve built a business servicing B&G but also now provide their own processors and other kit which fully integrates with B&G but has the advantage of being fully serviceable. I plan to replace all my Nav electronics this winter and will explore A&T as the ‘hub’. My H3000 keeps ‘freezing’ - unnerving! 

Sarah is highly knowledgeable and helpful - Tel +44 1590 610071 or sarah@...

I’ve attached their product info. 

Best of luck. 

Tony Wells
A54 #102 Balthazar 
Anchored at Keri, Zakynthos Greece



On 27 Jul 2019, at 11:37, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hello all,

im inquiring if someone can assist, my B&G H3000 has an issue with regards to displaying the TWS as the AWS and the AWA as the AWS so both are the same, with no displaying of the TWS. Also the boat speed is not displaying despite the paddle wheel being operable.

if I run the engine the displaying of the TWS and AWS and boat speed functions as normal but then when the engine is off and we are sailing the issue continues.

any assistance would be appreciated 

thank you Paul Brown 55#17
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Re: B&G issues

Paul Brown
 

Thank you Gerhard,

Today the issue was still apparent underway using the motor, which is indicting it may not be a low power issue, although the other day I was underway using the motor for several hours and issue rectified its self so perhaps a power issue.

Thanks again 

Regards Paul 55#17


On 27 Jul 2019, at 1:08 pm, Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode@...> wrote:

There is not sufficient current when your engine doesn't run perhaps?
When your engine is running and everything is OK as expected the B&G H3000 seems to have no problems.
So a low electricity current might be the reason for that.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: B&G issues

tony wells
 

Hi Paul

If you’re unable to solve the problem via the forum then Sarah at A&T (formerly Tinley Electronics) in Lymington, UK maybe able to help. Bill Rouse introduced me to them. They’ve built a business servicing B&G but also now provide their own processors and other kit which fully integrates with B&G but has the advantage of being fully serviceable. I plan to replace all my Nav electronics this winter and will explore A&T as the ‘hub’. My H3000 keeps ‘freezing’ - unnerving! 

Sarah is highly knowledgeable and helpful - Tel +44 1590 610071 or sarah@...

I’ve attached their product info. 

Best of luck. 

Tony Wells
A54 #102 Balthazar 
Anchored at Keri, Zakynthos Greece



On 27 Jul 2019, at 11:37, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hello all,

im inquiring if someone can assist, my B&G H3000 has an issue with regards to displaying the TWS as the AWS and the AWA as the AWS so both are the same, with no displaying of the TWS. Also the boat speed is not displaying despite the paddle wheel being operable.

if I run the engine the displaying of the TWS and AWS and boat speed functions as normal but then when the engine is off and we are sailing the issue continues.

any assistance would be appreciated 

thank you Paul Brown 55#17

Re: B&G issues

Gerhard Mueller
 

There is not sufficient current when your engine doesn't run perhaps?
When your engine is running and everything is OK as expected the B&G H3000 seems to have no problems.
So a low electricity current might be the reason for that.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: 1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors

Aras Grinius
 

I had my motors re-worked here in the USA. They everything apart rewound the windings replaced brushes and load tested.

Aras Grinius
Sv fiasco #163 Sharki


--
Aras Grinius
SV FIASCO
Sharki #163

B&G issues

Paul Brown
 

Hello all,

im inquiring if someone can assist, my B&G H3000 has an issue with regards to displaying the TWS as the AWS and the AWA as the AWS so both are the same, with no displaying of the TWS. Also the boat speed is not displaying despite the paddle wheel being operable.

if I run the engine the displaying of the TWS and AWS and boat speed functions as normal but then when the engine is off and we are sailing the issue continues.

any assistance would be appreciated 

thank you Paul Brown 55#17

Re: Monastir Marina

Gerhard Mueller
 

If someone hasn't read I wrote this in another thread:

There are 2 boatyards with travel-lifts in Monastir.
The one in the marina has a smaller travel-lift with maximum 20 tons.
2 miles in the south of the marina in the Port de Peche (fishers harbour) is a greater lift which might be better for your boat size.
Address of the boat yard in the marina:
Chantier Navale Marina Cap Monastir
Owner: Mohamed Mrad
Chef de Service: Amor
marineservicemir@...
Phone: 00 216 73 580 266‬ or 00 216 73 467 451‬ or 00 216 97 775 422‬ or 00 216 97 775 422‬
Address of the boat yard Monastir Port de Peche:
Owner: Moncef
Phone: 00 216 22 653 457‬
Chef: Amet
Phone: 00 216 99 239 413‬
Sailmaker Monastir:
Hedi Chafroud
hedichafroud@...
Phone: 00 216 52 394 757‬ or 00 216 22 694 757‬
Specialist for Inox:
Anouar Hizem
anouar.hizem@...
Phone: 00 216 98 830 995‬ or 00 216 73 449 183‬
Chantier Naval SOHICOMET, Port de Peche
Inox workshop outside Port de Peche:
Walid Frih
Phone: 00 216 98 977 709‬
Diver Monastir:
Makram Bouzgarrou
Phone: 00216 20 255 674‬

If you need more addresses please ask:
Bernard Casanova
Boat name: "ENCORE" in the marina Monastir
casaber45@...
Phone: 00 216 22 509 172‬ or ‭00 216 24 201 363‬
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece

Re: interesting quote

Mark Erdos
 

There are indeed some awesome quotes here. Thanks so much for sharing. I have a new favorite now: “Waves are not measured in feet or inches, they are measured in increments of fear.” – Buzzy Trent

I have to laugh at the “Twenty years from now…” being attributed to Mark Twain. I see this all the time on peoples blogs and FaceBook etc. It is a motto so many cruisers use as the credo for their lifestyle. But, Mark Twain never actually said or wrote this. It has to be the most incorrectly attributed quote of all time.

 

The first time this quote ever appeared in print was pretty recently in 1990. It is in a book by the bestselling author H. Jackson Brown, Jr. He published the work containing the quotation, but he did not take credit for it. The book “P.S. I Love You” contained a collection of wise aphorisms from Brown’s mother, Sarah Frances Brown. Each page contained one thought, and this quote was printed on page 13. Each remark was prefaced with “P.S.” and ended with “I love you, Mom”. I guess attributing it to Mark Twain is more impactful than the actual person deserving of the credit, Sarah Frances Brown.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 10:10 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

I got that quote from here.

There are some great sayings here.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

https://themusterstation.com/ocean-quotes/

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 8:53 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

Does this mean we are stuck between alive and dead – {smile} Isn’t this call being a zombie?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:23 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

There are three sorts of people; those who are alive, those who are dead, and those who are at sea.”
– Old Capstan Chantey attributed to Anacharsis, 6th Century BC

 

Re: interesting quote

eric freedman
 

I got that quote from here.

There are some great sayings here.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

https://themusterstation.com/ocean-quotes/

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 8:53 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

Does this mean we are stuck between alive and dead – {smile} Isn’t this call being a zombie?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 9:23 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] interesting quote

 

There are three sorts of people; those who are alive, those who are dead, and those who are at sea.”
– Old Capstan Chantey attributed to Anacharsis, 6th Century BC