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Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

Teun BAAS
 

100% agree with below.

Bill was my pre-purchase consultant in 2017; inviting me to their house in GALVESTON TX. Without Bill (AND Judy’s) information, honest feedback on AMEL cruising (look at Judy’s detailed spreadsheet on their 10 year cruising costs) I would have never bought  AMELIT.

Then becoming a YACHT SCHOOL member as well as purchasing the lifetime 24/7/365 consulting, combined with Bill flying all the way to NEW CALEDONIA to be on board for close to 10 days has really helped me to understand the boat better and bring AMELIT (almost) completely back in OEM condition.

As Porter mentioned in an earlier Email last week - these boats are the ultimate & fantastic travel (sea) machines and (Judy +) Bill  as well as this forum have, for me, been indispensable.

Brgds Teun


On Aug 4, 2019, at 05:26, Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Bill Rouse and the Yacht School was our secret weapon to understanding our Amel 54 quickly and logically. I basically had zero experience fixing boats. Through Bill I came to understand not only the ethos of Amel, but how to deal with what seems like insurmountable problems (new furlers, new engine, etc...) in far away places, with a smile on your face. We, my family and myself shake our heads often thanking Bill, without telling him how much we’ve appreciated his help, candor, and amazing attitude as we’ve sailed for the past 2 years. Now we’re in FP with a few miles under our keel. I haven’t walked onto any other sailboat or catamaran I’d rather have. (Also read Fatty Goodlander’s storm proofing your boat, you won’t want anything but an Amel). Thank you Bill for all you’ve done for us and I’m sure they’ll be some echos from all the other folks on this forum: thank you for what you’ve done for Amel!  

Porter, Helen Grace and Lilly McRoberts
S/V Ibis. A54-152
Bora Bora


Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

I forgot to add a shout out to Bill himself... I never had the scratch for the school, but the remote photography-based evaluation service was a god-send. I highly recommend it to any prospective buyers. 

Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Yep Porter. With you on that

Danny

On 04 August 2019 at 06:25 "Porter McRoberts via Groups.Io" <portermcroberts@...> wrote:

Bill Rouse and the Yacht School was our secret weapon to understanding our Amel 54 quickly and logically. I basically had zero experience fixing boats. Through Bill I came to understand not only the ethos of Amel, but how to deal with what seems like insurmountable problems (new furlers, new engine, etc...) in far away places, with a smile on your face. We, my family and myself shake our heads often thanking Bill, without telling him how much we’ve appreciated his help, candor, and amazing attitude as we’ve sailed for the past 2 years. Now we’re in FP with a few miles under our keel. I haven’t walked onto any other sailboat or catamaran I’d rather have. (Also read Fatty Goodlander’s storm proofing your boat, you won’t want anything but an Amel). Thank you Bill for all you’ve done for us and I’m sure they’ll be some echos from all the other folks on this forum: thank you for what you’ve done for Amel!  

Porter, Helen Grace and Lilly McRoberts
S/V Ibis. A54-152
Bora Bora


Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Davi Rozgonyi < davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

I forgot to add a shout out to Bill himself... I never had the scratch for the school, but the remote photography-based evaluation service was a god-send. I highly recommend it to any prospective buyers. 


 


 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill and Kent. I would suspect it is the D with the large hole but the is an opinion from my office chair. Ill be on the boat later and Ill look.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 04 August 2019 at 06:02 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Kent,

I believe the difference between what is available today in D profile gaskets and what was available to Amel when the SM was made is that gasket manufacturers have changed the density of the neoprene foam used to make the gasket, thereby lowering their material costs, which enables them to lower resale costs, which is the number one thing demanded by buyers. Get it?

That said and assuming I am correct,  1-inch half round gaskets in the configuration of D with a 3/16 hole down the center may be the best solution. Direct me to the source, and I will investigate further.

Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals? 
D Profile with a large hole in the center.

Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1 inch height?
25mmX25mm (25mm = 0.984252")

What material are they?  Neoprene? Something else?
I think they are  neoprene foam  

What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
Amel inserted a round piece of solid  neoprene foam  about 10cm long and about Ø12-15mm inside the D gasket at the corners.
  
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:51 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again.  I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel.  Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow.  John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket.  Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.

I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.

Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?

Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?

What material are they?  Neoprene? Something else?

What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?

John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?

Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc

Kent
SM243
Kristy

 

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Bill,

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  


Regards,
Steve
Aloha SM72


On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 8:02 AM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Kent,

I believe the difference between what is available today in D profile gaskets and what was available to Amel when the SM was made is that gasket manufacturers have changed the density of the neoprene foam used to make the gasket, thereby lowering their material costs, which enables them to lower resale costs, which is the number one thing demanded by buyers. Get it?

That said and assuming I am correct, 1-inch half round gaskets in the configuration of D with a 3/16 hole down the center may be the best solution. Direct me to the source, and I will investigate further.

Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals? 
D Profile with a large hole in the center.

Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1 inch height?
25mmX25mm (25mm = 0.984252")

What material are they?  Neoprene? Something else?
I think they are  neoprene foam  

What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
Amel inserted a round piece of solid neoprene foam about 10cm long and about Ø12-15mm inside the D gasket at the corners.
  
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:51 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again.  I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel.  Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow.  John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket.  Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.

I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.

Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?

Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?

What material are they?  Neoprene? Something else?

What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?

John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?

Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc

Kent
SM243
Kristy

Re: Spinniker or parasailor

Porter McRoberts
 

To do over...  (I have an asymmetrical spinnaker) I’d get a parasailor: put on one side and pole out the Genoa on the other for deep sailing in low wind. Put the Genoa to wind. We did that a fair amount crossing the pacific, but the parasailor I think would hold shape better. I think we have similar pole hardware forward. 

Porter
A54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 2, 2019, at 11:39 PM, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

hello all, I am inquiring for some advice on purchasing a symmetrical spinniker or parasail to sail directly down wind by using the Genoa pole.

does owners have experience with a suitable unit for this purpose and the pros and cons and performance gained?

all advice is very much appreciated 

kind regards Paul 55#17 

Fortuna II


Re: Port and Door Holders...

 

I also contacted Goiot directly 8 years ago and was told that it was not a Goiot part. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:18 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
Hi Ian, well done, I contacted Goiot directly a couple of years ago and was told they did not have any.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
> On 03 August 2019 at 18:39 Ian <parkianj@...> wrote:
>
>
> I got some in a chandlery in Martinique made by Goiot.
> Ian
> Ocean Hobo
>
>
>



Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

Porter McRoberts
 

Bill Rouse and the Yacht School was our secret weapon to understanding our Amel 54 quickly and logically. I basically had zero experience fixing boats. Through Bill I came to understand not only the ethos of Amel, but how to deal with what seems like insurmountable problems (new furlers, new engine, etc...) in far away places, with a smile on your face. We, my family and myself shake our heads often thanking Bill, without telling him how much we’ve appreciated his help, candor, and amazing attitude as we’ve sailed for the past 2 years. Now we’re in FP with a few miles under our keel. I haven’t walked onto any other sailboat or catamaran I’d rather have. (Also read Fatty Goodlander’s storm proofing your boat, you won’t want anything but an Amel). Thank you Bill for all you’ve done for us and I’m sure they’ll be some echos from all the other folks on this forum: thank you for what you’ve done for Amel!  

Porter, Helen Grace and Lilly McRoberts
S/V Ibis. A54-152
Bora Bora


Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Davi Rozgonyi <davi.rozgonyi@...> wrote:

I forgot to add a shout out to Bill himself... I never had the scratch for the school, but the remote photography-based evaluation service was a god-send. I highly recommend it to any prospective buyers. 

Re: Port and Door Holders...

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ian, well done, I contacted Goiot directly a couple of years ago and was told they did not have any.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 03 August 2019 at 18:39 Ian <parkianj@...> wrote:


I got some in a chandlery in Martinique made by Goiot.
Ian
Ocean Hobo


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Kent,

I believe the difference between what is available today in D profile gaskets and what was available to Amel when the SM was made is that gasket manufacturers have changed the density of the neoprene foam used to make the gasket, thereby lowering their material costs, which enables them to lower resale costs, which is the number one thing demanded by buyers. Get it?

That said and assuming I am correct, 1-inch half round gaskets in the configuration of D with a 3/16 hole down the center may be the best solution. Direct me to the source, and I will investigate further.

Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals? 
D Profile with a large hole in the center.

Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1 inch height?
25mmX25mm (25mm = 0.984252")

What material are they?  Neoprene? Something else?
I think they are  neoprene foam  

What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?
Amel inserted a round piece of solid neoprene foam about 10cm long and about Ø12-15mm inside the D gasket at the corners.
  
Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 11:51 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again.  I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel.  Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow.  John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket.  Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.

I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.

Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?

Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?

What material are they?  Neoprene? Something else?

What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?

John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?

Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc

Kent
SM243
Kristy

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

karkauai
 

I posted this s few weeks ago with no definitive answers, trying again.  I want to replace my deck locker gaskets, and haven’t found a source for them other than Amel.  Bill R’s post earlier indicated they are hollow and reinforced at the corners with something in the hollow.  John was looking for a 1inch “half-round” gasket.  Richard built up new gaskets out of neoprene layers. John and Anne found leaking spots with a hose test with her in the locker, and said Amel drilled small holes in the seals at those points and injected silicone which stopped the leaks.

I have found 1-inch half round gaskets in three configurations: D with a large hollow, D with a 3/16 hole down the center, and Solid half round.

Does anyone know which of these profiles most closely resembles the originals?

Are the originals truly 1” half-round with 1inch height?

What material are they?  Neoprene? Something else?

What material was used to reinforce them at the corners?

John and Anne, is the Amel silicone injection repair holding up?

Thanks for any advice/thoughts/sources/etc

Kent
SM243
Kristy

Re: Port and Door Holders...

 

Eric,

The rubber things that hold the ports open. They also hold the V berth doors open. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 9:13 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

What are you referring to with respect to “ mushrooms”?

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:44 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Port and Door Holders...

 

I bought 8 from Amel while they still had them. I suspect some are still aboard BeBe. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, 7:59 PM Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

i have the same issue with degraded black rubber mushrooms.  Did you find a solution?

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM 419
Rockland,  Maine

Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

Davi Rozgonyi
 

I forgot to add a shout out to Bill himself... I never had the scratch for the school, but the remote photography-based evaluation service was a god-send. I highly recommend it to any prospective buyers. 

Re: This should interest all members, especially Amel yacht owners

Mark McGovern
 

As a "new-ish" owner of an Amel at just over 2 years now, I could not agree with Brent more.  The existence of this forum was a huge tick in the "Pro" column for buying an Amel when we were looking for a safe, comfortable, and affordable world cruising vessel.  The amount of maintenance and technical information including part numbers, sources, methods, tips and tricks are simply amazing for a DIYer bent on exploring places where YOU and your spares are the main (only?) resource that you will rely on to keep your systems operational.  The Amel Facebook group does a great job showing you all the beautiful places your Amel can take you.  This group does a great job making sure you get there safe and sound, can take a hot shower when you arrive, can cook a nice meal on your stovetop or oven, and can enjoy the cold beverage of your choice in that beautiful place!  Both are equally valuable to me.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

karkauai
 

Thanks Eric & Heinz!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
karkauai@...
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 7:35 AM, Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...> wrote:

Hallo
In the episodes 204 and 205 of the series Sv Delos on YouTube they show how they restored the hull of the Delos.
In episode 205 after about 50 % you can see how the seal in the rudder is renewed.

Fare Winds
Heinz, SY Quetzal, Super Maramu 200, 292

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Im Auftrag von karkauai via Groups.Io
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2019 05:05
An: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Thanks Eric, any idea how long the packing material might last if kept in a vacuum sealed bag?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:17 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi ,
Here is a photo of a wrench that I made to tighten the nut. It is made from a piece of 6 mm aluminum stock and cut out with a band saw.

You can also make a long "L" shaped piece of stainless steel the vertical part of the L will hold the nut in place and the horizontal section is drilled for screws and this screws into the base below the nut.

I expanded the stuffing box and now have 5 pieces of packing in the stuffing box. I have kept the packing in a plastic zip lock bag taped with duct tape near the rudder stock along with a packing nut.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:54 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

As it happens I’ve just ordered a new nut together with the packing material for our boat.
Regrettably the nut is not on stock at Amel, they just ordered new ones themselves but it will be September before they are back on stock.
Looking at your picture you seem to have enough room to tighten the nut 1/6 or 1/3 turn.
Be careful as the nut is made of nylon. A rudder gland should not leak at all. The packing material is grease saturated and should keep the water out.
Use a good fitting wrench to tighten the nut and turn it slowly. Do 1/6th of a turn and first assess the result before turning it any more. If movement is extremely hard, the packing material needs to be replaced first.

Regards,
Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121




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Re: Port and Door Holders...

karkauai
 

Eric, I have them on Kristy.  They hold open the portlites and double doors to the forward cabin

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 2:39 AM, Ian <parkianj@...> wrote:

I got some in a chandlery in Martinique made by Goiot.
Ian
Ocean Hobo



Re: B & G Hydra System For Sale

karkauai
 

Hi Elaine,
I’m interested in the Hydra, and maybe some Onan parts.  Specifically the control board for the Onan.

Please contact me at email below.

What did you replace them with?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy SM243
USA cell: +1 828-234-6819

On Aug 2, 2019, at 11:40 PM, Elaine Leishman via Groups.Io <leishman.elaine@...> wrote:

Selling B & G hydra system as removed from 1999 Super Maramu.  Working, except for a fault with the wind transducer.  Sonic speed sensors are brand new, never installed.  Will package and post worldwide.  Contact Elaine via the group.  We also have a lot of spare parts for the Volvo Penta engine and the Onan genset.
Elaine
SM 251 Nebo

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Heinz Stutenbaeumer
 

Hallo
In the episodes 204 and 205 of the series Sv Delos on YouTube they show how they restored the hull of the Delos.
In episode 205 after about 50 % you can see how the seal in the rudder is renewed.

Fare Winds
Heinz, SY Quetzal, Super Maramu 200, 292

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Im Auftrag von karkauai via Groups.Io
Gesendet: Samstag, 3. August 2019 05:05
An: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Thanks Eric, any idea how long the packing material might last if kept in a vacuum sealed bag?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Aug 2, 2019, at 10:17 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi ,
Here is a photo of a wrench that I made to tighten the nut. It is made from a piece of 6 mm aluminum stock and cut out with a band saw.

You can also make a long "L" shaped piece of stainless steel the vertical part of the L will hold the nut in place and the horizontal section is drilled for screws and this screws into the base below the nut.

I expanded the stuffing box and now have 5 pieces of packing in the stuffing box. I have kept the packing in a plastic zip lock bag taped with duct tape near the rudder stock along with a packing nut.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arno Luijten
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 9:54 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

As it happens I’ve just ordered a new nut together with the packing material for our boat.
Regrettably the nut is not on stock at Amel, they just ordered new ones themselves but it will be September before they are back on stock.
Looking at your picture you seem to have enough room to tighten the nut 1/6 or 1/3 turn.
Be careful as the nut is made of nylon. A rudder gland should not leak at all. The packing material is grease saturated and should keep the water out.
Use a good fitting wrench to tighten the nut and turn it slowly. Do 1/6th of a turn and first assess the result before turning it any more. If movement is extremely hard, the packing material needs to be replaced first.

Regards,
Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121




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Bow thruster carbon brushes size

ahmet kipcak
 

Hi, everybady
Here in Turkey I asked to Amel Emek marine/Gocek to purchase carbon brushes for my SM 247 as spare part.
They asked me size of brushes because they have different size of brushes in their stock.
May I asked your advices about this issue, otherwise I will disassemble motor to check brushes size.

Thanks for your help and wish safe sailings.

Ahmet

Spinniker or parasailor

Paul Brown
 

hello all, I am inquiring for some advice on purchasing a symmetrical spinniker or parasail to sail directly down wind by using the Genoa pole.

does owners have experience with a suitable unit for this purpose and the pros and cons and performance gained?

all advice is very much appreciated 

kind regards Paul 55#17 

Fortuna II


Re: Port and Door Holders...

Ian Park
 

I got some in a chandlery in Martinique made by Goiot.
Ian
Ocean Hobo