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Re: Manual Outhaul system

Matt Salatino
 

Would it be just as easy to replace the motor?
I’m sure Amel doesn’t wind their own motors, and someone knows the source?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jul 11, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Ellen Cahill <ellencahill@...> wrote:

Hi,

We have had a number of issues with out mainsail outhaul motor and so we have had to macgyver a manual system more than once. We hope to fix/replace the motor but I'd like a more permanent solution for a manual outhaul system that you could engage. 

Has anyone here figured something out?

I plan to use the existing outhaul car and line. To do so I plan to remove the center bolt from the grip to disengage the motor and make a pin bracket to fit in the grip and allow it to spin without the motor. I can then have a new outhaul line from the back of the boom, thought a pully attached to the car, back through a check block on the boom and up to a cleat on the boom, close to the goose neck. 

It would be great to hear some thoughts on this.

Thanks,
Ellen Cahill, 
Ireland

SV Saol Nua
Amel Mango

Manual Outhaul system

Ellen Cahill
 

Hi,

We have had a number of issues with out mainsail outhaul motor and so we have had to macgyver a manual system more than once. We hope to fix/replace the motor but I'd like a more permanent solution for a manual outhaul system that you could engage. 

Has anyone here figured something out?

I plan to use the existing outhaul car and line. To do so I plan to remove the center bolt from the grip to disengage the motor and make a pin bracket to fit in the grip and allow it to spin without the motor. I can then have a new outhaul line from the back of the boom, thought a pully attached to the car, back through a check block on the boom and up to a cleat on the boom, close to the goose neck. 

It would be great to hear some thoughts on this.

Thanks,
Ellen Cahill, 
Ireland

SV Saol Nua
Amel Mango

Re: owner of SY Phantom

Paul Osterberg
 

We have a Swetec hydrogenerator. Would not buy one again, very limited use. Only use it when sailing long distance about 300 nm or more. In Caribbean one has to continously clear it from see weed. When not in use one has to store it some where. We have 750 W of solar panels and only need to run the generator 45 minutes a day on passage. When at anchor only when we make water och washing. So we use the generator very little just to keep it in chape.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Horta 

Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello William,

First step is to look at Yachtworld.com and find the listed Santorins.  I found 8… all in the Med.  One of them caught my eye, the one listed with Michel Charpentier; he is almost exclusively an AMEL broker and is top notch. 

There is also 1 sloop rigged Santorin in the list…. FWIW, I would prefer a ketch rig as the sloop does not have “balanced” proportions IMO of course.

GL with the search.

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera,
Amel SM 007, Suva Fiji

On 11 Jul 2019, at 09:03, Will Marks <William.L.Marks@...> wrote:

Hey all, I am hoping that someone in this group would be so kind as to give us a tour of their US-based Santorin.

My wife and I are on the hunt for our next cruising boat to take on an open-ended world voyage starting 2020 and the Santorin appears to check all the boxes. We're moving up from a CS 36 Merlin that we spent a year cruising in the Caribbean and Bahamas. We're pretty well sold on the Santorin's basic design and construction, but it's been years since I've been on an SN (and never for her) so we would like to get on board one to confirm our feelings before we engage a broker and begin searching far and wide. 

We are currently land-bound in Chicago, so we'll gladly make a weekend trip out to anywhere on the US East or West coast. Please let me know if you'd be willing give us a tour.

Alternatively, if you happen to know of an SN for sale in the US (none currently listed on yachtworld), that would be great info.

All the best,
Will

William.L.Marks@...
312.203.4091

Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Mark McGovern
 

Will,

It looks as if that Santorin in Martinique is actually sold.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Mark McGovern
 

Will, 

Welcome to the group. There is a Santorin for sale in Martinique. I know it's not the US, but its a fairly easy trip from the US and it's listed at a fantastic price.  Here is a link from the listing on the Amel For Sale subgroup of this forum: 

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale/message/16

My wife and I loved your YouTube channel, btw.  Say hi to Cat.

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Will Marks
 

Hey all, I am hoping that someone in this group would be so kind as to give us a tour of their US-based Santorin.

My wife and I are on the hunt for our next cruising boat to take on an open-ended world voyage starting 2020 and the Santorin appears to check all the boxes. We're moving up from a CS 36 Merlin that we spent a year cruising in the Caribbean and Bahamas. We're pretty well sold on the Santorin's basic design and construction, but it's been years since I've been on an SN (and never for her) so we would like to get on board one to confirm our feelings before we engage a broker and begin searching far and wide. 

We are currently land-bound in Chicago, so we'll gladly make a weekend trip out to anywhere on the US East or West coast. Please let me know if you'd be willing give us a tour.

Alternatively, if you happen to know of an SN for sale in the US (none currently listed on yachtworld), that would be great info.

All the best,
Will

William.L.Marks@...
312.203.4091

Re: owner of SY Phantom

Matt Salatino
 

Not to be negative, but ask specifically about fouling from sargasso weed. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

Hi Alex, I have just arrived at Jabin. Have you got hold of the owner? If not I’ll go to the office and try and get their details. I have a SM and am also interested in the watt and sea.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai SM 406


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 4:38:42 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] owner of SY Phantom
 
Hi,
Yesterday I saw SY Phantom in Jabin's  Yacht Yard in Annapolis. If the owner is on this forum or if someone knows him, I would like to get in touch and discuss his experience with the watt&sea generator that the boat has installed.
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer 
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15

Re: owner of SY Phantom

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Alex, I have just arrived at Jabin. Have you got hold of the owner? If not I’ll go to the office and try and get their details. I have a SM and am also interested in the watt and sea.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai SM 406


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 4:38:42 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] owner of SY Phantom
 
Hi,
Yesterday I saw SY Phantom in Jabin's  Yacht Yard in Annapolis. If the owner is on this forum or if someone knows him, I would like to get in touch and discuss his experience with the watt&sea generator that the boat has installed.
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer 
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

I was curious about this and emailed Desallator to confirm, and this is the reply I got from Martin de Jong:

 

Good morning Paul,

No this is not the proper way of doing it, this is a good possibility of ruining your membranes. The proper way is using the sterilizing cartridge and use it as it's supposed to.

Now if for one reason or another somebody did not do the sterilizing before leaving the boat then there is always the possibility flushing it without running it for 15 minutes and just do to normal startup after replacing the pre-filter of course.

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Willem Kroes
Sent: 09 July 2019 13:29
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sterilize the watermaker

 

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Bow Thruster lip seal

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks Craig!

Duane

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Duane Siegfri
 

Many thanks to everyone for their thoughts.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Mastervolt alternator overcharging

Aldo Roldan
 

Yeah! Your batteries have probably suffered. I had to replace mine

On Jul 9, 2019, at 3:17 AM, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

As I said above, that’s exactly the problem I found and fixed:  loose connection in the voltage sensing cable for the alternator.   But the latest is that the alarm came back on last night after 8 hours on shore power with the 60 A  Charger.  So now I’m retesting the batteries (maybe they got damaged since the last test) and looking for a loose connection in the 60A charger circuit.  The fun never stops with these complicated boats .....

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Oops Sorry my previous should have been addressed to Willem

Danny

On 09 July 2019 at 23:28 Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Vincent et al,

I too have not used chemicals in 10 years and get good life from the membranes. Just a back flush with product water from the tank with the presure released after each use. 

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 July 2019 at 23:28 Willem Kroes <kavanga@...> wrote:

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Mark McGovern
 

Just to add to the knowledgebase on a related watermaker topic, when I asked Dessalator's USA rep Mark Fruehauf at Balcen (info@...) about how best to winterize my watermaker I got this reply:

"For winterizing I recommend doing a fresh water flush and then filling the High Pressure pump and membrane pressure vessels with non toxic water system antifreeze.  The easiest way to do this is to use a utility pump to pump the solution into the inlet of the high pressure pump.  It is also very important to make sure to blow out all fresh water from the product water lines and  flow meters"

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Mark McGovern
 

On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 02:38 PM, Gary Silver wrote:
continuous salinity measurement system
Gary,

I for one would love to see the schematics and parts list that you used to modify your system!  
 
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: SM - Aft Deck Cushion

Ian Townsend
 

Yikes! Thx for that. Will remember not to smoke around it :) I'm going to get the free liner they are offering as a fix.

They have a replacement:



Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Jul 9, 2019, at 2:55 AM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Seems it's not available from Amazon anymore, and this is why :
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2019/cvb-recalls-lucid-folding-mattress-sofas-due-to-violation-of-federal-mattress

Pity, I thought it was a good idea !

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Willem Kroes
 

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


Re: Mastervolt alternator overcharging

Joerg Esdorn
 

As I said above, that’s exactly the problem I found and fixed:  loose connection in the voltage sensing cable for the alternator.   But the latest is that the alarm came back on last night after 8 hours on shore power with the 60 A  Charger.  So now I’m retesting the batteries (maybe they got damaged since the last test) and looking for a loose connection in the 60A charger circuit.  The fun never stops with these complicated boats .....