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Re: Ground strap in bilge

Thomas Peacock
 

Cannot argue with the logic. We are fortunate, our strap seems to be pretty intact. But fashioning a copper connector by hammering a pipe has also been suggested, which seems easy enough.

When are you going down?

On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...> wrote:

A most interesting observation. Your thoughts?


On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

Randall why do you not do it in 316 stainless Steel? We had a workshop done it for us reccon it will last many years. Yes I heard the argument SS is a poor conductor and yes it is, but the current going in the strap are milli amps,so not importan,  And it is connected to the SS Keelbolts!
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos 


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Why a copper strap at all then. Why not use heavy duty copper wire? 

Ross
INTREPID KIWI
SM2K 356
Currently in Croatia

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On Sunday, October 20, 2019, 2:45 PM, Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...> wrote:

A most interesting observation. Your thoughts?


On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

Randall why do you not do it in 316 stainless Steel? We had a workshop done it for us reccon it will last many years. Yes I heard the argument SS is a poor conductor and yes it is, but the current going in the strap are milli amps,so not importan,  And it is connected to the SS Keelbolts!
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos 


Mizzen mast paint.

Paul Osterberg
 

I need to tuch up some patches on my mizzen boom. Going tu use Alwgrip but do not know the colour code for our 1999 vintage SM 2000#259. Anyone who can guide me to the right colour? 
Anyone who have painted your self who kan give advice on how to. What primer did you use?
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos 


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Mike Ondra
 

A most interesting observation. Your thoughts?


On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

Randall why do you not do it in 316 stainless Steel? We had a workshop done it for us reccon it will last many years. Yes I heard the argument SS is a poor conductor and yes it is, but the current going in the strap are milli amps,so not importan,  And it is connected to the SS Keelbolts!
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos 


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Paul Osterberg
 

Randall why do you not do it in 316 stainless Steel? We had a workshop done it for us reccon it will last many years. Yes I heard the argument SS is a poor conductor and yes it is, but the current going in the strap are milli amps,so not importan,  And it is connected to the SS Keelbolts!
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Lagos 


Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

Will Stout <tango708@...>
 

Hi James,
I have painted my bumper twice during my ownership.  Once in 2015 in St Martin and just last week.  Each time I used a can of acrylic spray paint acquired at my local big box store intended for plastic yard chairs.  I found it to have excellent adhesion.  I simply sanded with 220 grit, cleaned and sprayed multiple coats.  The paint lasted 4 years before wearing through.  It did not flake or crack and cost less than $5. even in the Caribbean.  I was also able to find a excellent color match to the slightly off white Amel hull.

Will Stout
Anni Bea True SM 180
For Sale in Annapolis, MD.


Re: Have I lost the bow thruster prop ?

John Clark
 

Hi Nick,
    sorry for addressing you as Nicole in my last.  Darn spell-check and lack of proofreading...   The "manual" I received with Annie was in French and was mostly an engineering description of the vessel.  I learned how to use the Amel bow thruster service kit from this Amel Owners Forum.   Do a search of "bow thruster" and I am sure you will find written instructions. 

That said,  I am sure Bill Rouse's Amel textbook has a detailed set of instructions on how to drop and retrieve the bow thruster or as Bill himself suggested check out Alex's website for Super Maramu Nikimat.

I hope, and I do expect, that you simply lost the propeller.  It is an easy repair.  Some complaint that the Amel bow thruster is too exposed and prone to damage, perhaps true....but it is also so robustly designed and easy to service that it rarely requires a professional. My SM is 30 years old and is running on her original bow thruster parts...with the obvious exception of the prop.  Change the oil regularly and it will last almost forever.   This is true of almost all Amels of the SM vintage. 
The previous owner of Annie (FMR Vent de Soliel) had her for 16 years and stressed to me that regular greasing was the key to the vessel's health.  After purchase I sailed her for two years all around the Caribbean.  The only issues I had were with parts that were not lubricated so I give a lot of credence to his advice.   Those that failed were for the most part "sealed" so I cannot blame the previous owner.   As recommended in the forum I have since modified some parts(furling gears) to accept grease via zirc fittings, and others I have placed on a maintenance schedule to disassemble and clean regularly...similar to winch maintenance.   

Getting a grasp of the key maintenance items on your vessel will save you a lot of time, headache and money.  Take a few days to get intimate with the forum archives....or invite Bill to France....


Regards,  John

SV Annie SM 37
Brunswick GA....hopefully soon to be at sea again

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 4:52 PM Nicolas Klene via Groups.Io <laixoi=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Thank you john, i'll look for the replacement kit on board or order it after double checking if the prop is still there...
Is the  replacement procedure documented in the boat manual (with part needed and tools ? )
I'm not on board...
Kindly
Nick
SM471
Port Corbieres
Near Marseille


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Hajo Hille
 

Randall
 
Here is the special link. You have to choose the material and the dimensions
 
Regards
 
Hajo
SM 150
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Oktober 2019 um 09:53 Uhr
Von: "Randall Walker" <lladnarowen@...>
An: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Betreff: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
I know it has been on the forum many times. But I need to find a supplier of copper for making the grounding strap that goes to the keel.
Have been trying to source this in Spain. Is their someone who can point me to a supplier of a piece of copper 3mm x 50mm x 1500mm or 1/8" x 2" x 5 feet 6 inches. in Spain/Europe

Thank you
Randall
AMEL 54 #56


Re: Ground strap in bilge

robin hutter
 

I got mine from Amel — you can check on our Blog

Robin
Amel 54 # 54in Roda de Bara
Carré d‘As


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Hajo Hille
 

Randall,
look at this web side https://www.prokilo.de
 
Hope this helps
 
Hajo
SM 150
 
 
Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Oktober 2019 um 09:53 Uhr
Von: "Randall Walker" <lladnarowen@...>
An: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Betreff: [AmelYachtOwners] Ground strap in bilge
I know it has been on the forum many times. But I need to find a supplier of copper for making the grounding strap that goes to the keel.
Have been trying to source this in Spain. Is their someone who can point me to a supplier of a piece of copper 3mm x 50mm x 1500mm or 1/8" x 2" x 5 feet 6 inches. in Spain/Europe

Thank you
Randall
AMEL 54 #56


Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

Thomas Peacock
 

We’ve had pretty good luck with Flex-Seal. It’s a line of products that includes paint, filler, and glue. One year out we have a couple of chips, about to touch up. It is a little slippery when you stand on it, was thinking of adding a non-slip texture to the paint next time.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay, leaving for Martinique November 3

On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:27 PM, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello everyone.  
I am planning on repainting the stern bumper for my SM 53.  I previously sanded it down and painted with polyurethane.  That lasted about a month!  
Admittedly, I didn't use a primer... and perhaps that is the main error.  

Who has repainted their bumper, and with what products?   I am considering an epoxy primer this time.  

Many Thanks. 

James
Soteria SM2000 347
Aruba


Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

Mark Erdos
 

James,

 

Prior to replacing our bumper, we used Plastidip spray paint. It looked good for about 3 years.

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Performix-Plasti-Aerosol-Spray-Liquid/dp/B06XBDGVZ3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2A7JULXBS895G&keywords=flexi+paint&qid=1571567254&sprefix=flexi+pa%2Caps%2C323&sr=8-1

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of James Cromie via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 6:28 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu stern bumper painting

 

Hello everyone.  
I am planning on repainting the stern bumper for my SM 53.  I previously sanded it down and painted with polyurethane.  That lasted about a month!  
Admittedly, I didn't use a primer... and perhaps that is the main error.  

Who has repainted their bumper, and with what products?   I am considering an epoxy primer this time.  

Many Thanks. 

James
Soteria SM2000 347
Aruba


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Gerhard Mueller
 
Edited

Hi Elja

No, that is only a film of 40 Micrometer thickness.
He needs however a copper flat bar 3 millimeters thick.
Something like this:
https://www.bikar.com/copper-flat-bars.html
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently Kalamata, Greece


Re: Ground strap in bilge

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 


Ground strap in bilge

Randall Walker
 

I know it has been on the forum many times. But I need to find a supplier of copper for making the grounding strap that goes to the keel.
Have been trying to source this in Spain. Is their someone who can point me to a supplier of a piece of copper 3mm x 50mm x 1500mm or 1/8" x 2" x 5 feet 6 inches. in Spain/Europe

Thank you
Randall
AMEL 54 #56


Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

Hi Alan
We used the interior from a flat fender and glued in place and shaped it. And putty before painting with a paint for rubber, that is a slightly elastic paint.

/Annsofie, S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998.

Hälsningar
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

20 okt. 2019 kl. 08:55 skrev Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...>:

Slightly different issue, but still to do with the bumper.
Ours has a chunk out of one corner (thanks to the tin dinghy "friendly" welcome at Suwarrow).
Anyone have a good method and materials for repairing it ?

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

Alan Leslie
 

Slightly different issue, but still to do with the bumper.
Ours has a chunk out of one corner (thanks to the tin dinghy "friendly" welcome at Suwarrow).
Anyone have a good method and materials for repairing it ?

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Fuel tank

Andy Croney
 

Hi Tom,

It is not such a daunting project as you may think.

We did remove and replace our tank ( we had one custom fabricated to the exact same dimensions , however with the addition of inspection ports , to replace the old one ) - we also included a simple fuel level indicator in the walk thru.

We have a 1980 Maramu, so no electrical panels above the tank.
All parties involved with the removal and Re-installation process praised Amel for having the forethought to enable the fuel tank to be removed in one piece from the boat, without too much work.

The only thing we needed to remove was the starboard hand rail on the companion way.

With three people we were able to manhandle the tank into the saloon , over the Nav desk and resting on the saloon table then into the cockpit via the companionway and onto the dock - I believe we might have needed to remove one stay to facilitate this ??

No need to remove anything further.
But plenty of heavy blankets , bible wrap , etc , as protection to the wood work , should be in place before removal.

We went the route of replacing the tank after all the effort of removal. It just seemed to make more sense and are happy to have a new clean stainless steel tank .

On another note , we have seen other Maramu’s who have replaced the tank with a shorter tank , giving them more space in the walk Thru albeit with lower tankage. Something you might want to consider.

We have photos somewhere of the procedure if you are interested.

Good luck !!

All the best

Andy
SV Paladin, #75


Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

James Cromie
 

Great.  Thank you.  Is any primer necessary, or simply pile on the coats?

-James

On Oct 19, 2019, at 10:01 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

James,

Ditto on what Karen said. It is water base, flexible, and will need 3-5 coats. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 7:49 PM Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Use paint made for inflatable dinghies. The bumper is made of dense closed cell polyurethane foam. We have used the West Marine Brand with excellent luck by following preparation directions _exactly_.  We re-paint once a year and have never had a failure of the paint. 

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--top-coating-for-inflatable-boats-gray-quart--P010_301_001_501  (Pick your favorite color!)

Anything else will be too brittle and crack off, epoxy will be even worse.  You really should use a water based paint, since some solvents can attack the surface of the closed cell foam leaving you worse off than before you started.

Painting this part BEFORE it needs it is key to keeping it protected from UV and having a long lasting, good looking, bumper.  They are expensive, and sometime hard to get. Take good care of it and it will last a very long time.




Re: Super Maramu stern bumper painting

 

James,

Ditto on what Karen said. It is water base, flexible, and will need 3-5 coats. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 7:49 PM Karen Smith via Groups.Io <karenharmonie=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Use paint made for inflatable dinghies. The bumper is made of dense closed cell polyurethane foam. We have used the West Marine Brand with excellent luck by following preparation directions _exactly_.  We re-paint once a year and have never had a failure of the paint. 

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/west-marine--top-coating-for-inflatable-boats-gray-quart--P010_301_001_501  (Pick your favorite color!)

Anything else will be too brittle and crack off, epoxy will be even worse.  You really should use a water based paint, since some solvents can attack the surface of the closed cell foam leaving you worse off than before you started.

Painting this part BEFORE it needs it is key to keeping it protected from UV and having a long lasting, good looking, bumper.  They are expensive, and sometime hard to get. Take good care of it and it will last a very long time.