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Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Will Marks
 

Hey Ian,
Thanks for the heads up about the aft berth. At 6'1" it may be a little tight, but I can't imagine ruling out the boat over that unless it totally egregious and I have to sleep in the fetal position. A very generous forum member has already emailed me with an offer to let us visit their boat in Florida, so will hopefully get a chance to find out for myself very soon.

The only Santorin that I have ever stepped aboard, circa 2009 in Carriacou, was owned by a rather tall German couple. I believe the boat was named Cayenne. Unless I am totally mis-remembering the gentleman's stature, it would suggest that they found a way to make it work.

A much appreciated tip, either way.

-Will

Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Brent Cameron
 

Sometimes I really wish this forum had a way of indicating a huge thumbs up for a particular post!  What a great little nugget of information on the differences between models.  I have been trying to come up with a list of differences between the different models and think that I have them pretty well sussed out when someone like Ian posts this little gem and reminds me how much more there is to learn!    

Decisions, decisions...
--
Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada

The Bow thruster seals are in

Jose Venegas
 

Below is the list of Amel owners that asked me to order the special seals, please let me know if I missed anyone.  Although some of you have already sent me the info via different means, I need to make sure I got the data for each one in the same format.  Thus, I will appreciate if you can e-mail me from your personal e-mail directly to my personal e-mail  (josegvenegas@...)  with the topic "Seals" including the following information in the same order:  
Name to be shipped to 
Address
e-mail
phone number

Sorry about the redundant work but I did not realize I would have so many requests and the shipment/payment is becoming more than I bargained for.  I will be exploring different ways to delegate the shipment.  Once I have your data I will proceed to inform you about the payment method

Jose
Ipanema SM2K 278

Bob Ross (1 set) 

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, (2 sets)

Chuck_Kim_Joy (1 sets)

Steve Davis Aloha (2 sets)

Mark, Cream Puff (3 sets)

Dan Taylor (2 sets)

Gerald Bassin Jetlag, SM113 (2 sets)

Kent Robertson S/V Kristy (2 sets)

Pat McAneny  (1 set)

Ian Jenkins,  (2 sets) 

Pat McAneny  14109 3rd. Ave.  Kennedyville, Md.21645  (1 set)

Eric Kimberlite (2 sets)

Andre Kaplan (1 set)

Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Ian Park
 

Will,
I think you will find that every Santorin owner on the owners site will say it is the right boat for them. For us it’s been perfect.
One question though is what height are you? At 5’10” the aft double berth is just right if I was much over 6’ it would be a bit short. The forward bunks are fine, but not much good on s heavy sea.
I didn’t want a Super Maramu because they cost a lot more, I didn’t need the extra length and I was worried about the extra things to service/look after / like air con, washing machine, generator etc.
But I wouldn’t say no to one now.
Agree with the comment about the ketch rig. It’s great.
Any specific questions you have will be answered by a number of owners cruising oceans and living aboard.
Good luck.

Ian
Ocean Hobo. SN96

B & G Depth sounder

Hajo Hille
 

Hi Amelians,

I have a problem with the Depth Sounder, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So it is not really broken. I had cleaned the surface, but it is still the same.

Any ideas ?

Thanks in advance

Hajo
SM 150 Serafine
Leros


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Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Will Marks
 

Hi Jean-Pierre,
I'm tracking the 8 you found on Yachtworld. The concentration of them in the Med is a big part of the impetus for why I want to view one in the US. We are open to the possibility of buying in Europe next year, but we would want to be 100% confident that a Santorin is the right boat for us before embarking on such a long distance search.

-Will

Re: More than you ever wanted to know about Amel steering

karkauai
 

I will be doing something similar with rope, that looks great!
I have a different question about my composite wheel (SM 243 ‘98-‘99). The spokes have cracks in the composite between the sides and forward sides of the spokes. They separate a little if you pull on the wheel, but haven’t changed since I bought the boat 10 years ago. I’ve attached pics of the spokes.





Has anyone else had a similar experience? Recommendations?

Thanks,
Kent & Iris

Kent
Kristy
SM243

Re: Manual Outhaul system

Paul Osterberg
 

Ellen!
there is a rather easy way to set up a convenient back up system, i have been forced to do that two times.
Mount a block at the connection where the boom and mast meets. Take a line to the block at the back end of the bom and attache it to the sail, the other end you take to a block at the rail and lead it back to the cockpit, see attached photos, Maybe you do not like the way I attached the block at the boom base, the pictures are from my first attempt I have tried different ways, you can experiment what you find suits you, I use soft chakle .
the set up work very well.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 in Horta
 

Re: Manual Outhaul system

Matt Salatino
 

Would it be just as easy to replace the motor?
I’m sure Amel doesn’t wind their own motors, and someone knows the source?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jul 11, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Ellen Cahill <ellencahill@...> wrote:

Hi,

We have had a number of issues with out mainsail outhaul motor and so we have had to macgyver a manual system more than once. We hope to fix/replace the motor but I'd like a more permanent solution for a manual outhaul system that you could engage. 

Has anyone here figured something out?

I plan to use the existing outhaul car and line. To do so I plan to remove the center bolt from the grip to disengage the motor and make a pin bracket to fit in the grip and allow it to spin without the motor. I can then have a new outhaul line from the back of the boom, thought a pully attached to the car, back through a check block on the boom and up to a cleat on the boom, close to the goose neck. 

It would be great to hear some thoughts on this.

Thanks,
Ellen Cahill, 
Ireland

SV Saol Nua
Amel Mango

Manual Outhaul system

Ellen Cahill
 

Hi,

We have had a number of issues with out mainsail outhaul motor and so we have had to macgyver a manual system more than once. We hope to fix/replace the motor but I'd like a more permanent solution for a manual outhaul system that you could engage. 

Has anyone here figured something out?

I plan to use the existing outhaul car and line. To do so I plan to remove the center bolt from the grip to disengage the motor and make a pin bracket to fit in the grip and allow it to spin without the motor. I can then have a new outhaul line from the back of the boom, thought a pully attached to the car, back through a check block on the boom and up to a cleat on the boom, close to the goose neck. 

It would be great to hear some thoughts on this.

Thanks,
Ellen Cahill, 
Ireland

SV Saol Nua
Amel Mango

Re: owner of SY Phantom

Paul Osterberg
 

We have a Swetec hydrogenerator. Would not buy one again, very limited use. Only use it when sailing long distance about 300 nm or more. In Caribbean one has to continously clear it from see weed. When not in use one has to store it some where. We have 750 W of solar panels and only need to run the generator 45 minutes a day on passage. When at anchor only when we make water och washing. So we use the generator very little just to keep it in chape.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Horta 

Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hello William,

First step is to look at Yachtworld.com and find the listed Santorins.  I found 8… all in the Med.  One of them caught my eye, the one listed with Michel Charpentier; he is almost exclusively an AMEL broker and is top notch. 

There is also 1 sloop rigged Santorin in the list…. FWIW, I would prefer a ketch rig as the sloop does not have “balanced” proportions IMO of course.

GL with the search.

Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera,
Amel SM 007, Suva Fiji

On 11 Jul 2019, at 09:03, Will Marks <William.L.Marks@...> wrote:

Hey all, I am hoping that someone in this group would be so kind as to give us a tour of their US-based Santorin.

My wife and I are on the hunt for our next cruising boat to take on an open-ended world voyage starting 2020 and the Santorin appears to check all the boxes. We're moving up from a CS 36 Merlin that we spent a year cruising in the Caribbean and Bahamas. We're pretty well sold on the Santorin's basic design and construction, but it's been years since I've been on an SN (and never for her) so we would like to get on board one to confirm our feelings before we engage a broker and begin searching far and wide. 

We are currently land-bound in Chicago, so we'll gladly make a weekend trip out to anywhere on the US East or West coast. Please let me know if you'd be willing give us a tour.

Alternatively, if you happen to know of an SN for sale in the US (none currently listed on yachtworld), that would be great info.

All the best,
Will

William.L.Marks@...
312.203.4091

Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Mark McGovern
 

Will,

It looks as if that Santorin in Martinique is actually sold.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Mark McGovern
 

Will, 

Welcome to the group. There is a Santorin for sale in Martinique. I know it's not the US, but its a fairly easy trip from the US and it's listed at a fantastic price.  Here is a link from the listing on the Amel For Sale subgroup of this forum: 

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale/message/16

My wife and I loved your YouTube channel, btw.  Say hi to Cat.

Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Hoping to tour an Amel Santorin in USA

Will Marks
 

Hey all, I am hoping that someone in this group would be so kind as to give us a tour of their US-based Santorin.

My wife and I are on the hunt for our next cruising boat to take on an open-ended world voyage starting 2020 and the Santorin appears to check all the boxes. We're moving up from a CS 36 Merlin that we spent a year cruising in the Caribbean and Bahamas. We're pretty well sold on the Santorin's basic design and construction, but it's been years since I've been on an SN (and never for her) so we would like to get on board one to confirm our feelings before we engage a broker and begin searching far and wide. 

We are currently land-bound in Chicago, so we'll gladly make a weekend trip out to anywhere on the US East or West coast. Please let me know if you'd be willing give us a tour.

Alternatively, if you happen to know of an SN for sale in the US (none currently listed on yachtworld), that would be great info.

All the best,
Will

William.L.Marks@...
312.203.4091

Re: owner of SY Phantom

Matt Salatino
 

Not to be negative, but ask specifically about fouling from sargasso weed. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jul 10, 2019, at 12:43 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

Hi Alex, I have just arrived at Jabin. Have you got hold of the owner? If not I’ll go to the office and try and get their details. I have a SM and am also interested in the watt and sea.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai SM 406


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 4:38:42 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] owner of SY Phantom
 
Hi,
Yesterday I saw SY Phantom in Jabin's  Yacht Yard in Annapolis. If the owner is on this forum or if someone knows him, I would like to get in touch and discuss his experience with the watt&sea generator that the boat has installed.
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer 
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15

Re: owner of SY Phantom

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Alex, I have just arrived at Jabin. Have you got hold of the owner? If not I’ll go to the office and try and get their details. I have a SM and am also interested in the watt and sea.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai SM 406


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 4:38:42 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] owner of SY Phantom
 
Hi,
Yesterday I saw SY Phantom in Jabin's  Yacht Yard in Annapolis. If the owner is on this forum or if someone knows him, I would like to get in touch and discuss his experience with the watt&sea generator that the boat has installed.
Fair winds,
Alex Ramseyer 
SY NO STRESS
AMEL54#15

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

I was curious about this and emailed Desallator to confirm, and this is the reply I got from Martin de Jong:

 

Good morning Paul,

No this is not the proper way of doing it, this is a good possibility of ruining your membranes. The proper way is using the sterilizing cartridge and use it as it's supposed to.

Now if for one reason or another somebody did not do the sterilizing before leaving the boat then there is always the possibility flushing it without running it for 15 minutes and just do to normal startup after replacing the pre-filter of course.

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

S/Y Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Willem Kroes
Sent: 09 July 2019 13:29
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Sterilize the watermaker

 

In november 2017 I spoke with two Dessalator representatives on the MET's in Amsterdam. I asked them about to sterilize the membranes of my DUO 60. The answer was quite simple: It is not necessary to do that. Just after a long time of not use, turn the system on without pressure for about 40 minutes and the slowly increase pressure during 10 minutes not further than the first quarter of the meter. After that, increase pressure until the system comes to produce. I used this method now for two season starts and it works great. Chemicals in the end will destroy the system and will shorten the lifespan of the membranes, they told me. 

I spoke to:

Vincent Koster, Systems engineer: vincent@... and
Martin de Jong, Director - manager (DENIA, Spain and France): spain@...


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: Bow Thruster lip seal

Duane Siegfri
 

Thanks Craig!

Duane

Re: Sterilize the watermaker

Duane Siegfri
 

Many thanks to everyone for their thoughts.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477