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Re: SM main furler motor

Ian Townsend
 

VF44 P1 60 P63B14 B3

SPEED REDUCER, 60;1 RATIO, 63 FRAME, B14 FLANGE , CODE: 200480249 


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Sep 16, 2019, at 12:08 AM, Ian Townsend via Groups.Io <smlocalola@...> wrote:

I just took delivery for our Bonfiglioli unit. Lead time was several weeks. 

MITCH SILVERMAN
DRIVETECH AUTOMATION, INC.
5401 NW 102ND AVE.  #146
SUNRISE, FL. 33351
TEL: 954-746-9800
FAX: 954-746-5509
WEBSITE: WWW.DRIVETECHONLINE.COM


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Sep 15, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Dan Taylor <svflygirl@...> wrote:

Mark,
Can you provide the model number and company you purchased it from for the Bonfiglioli MVF44.

Also, what does the gear ratio for the main furler and outhaul furler need to be?  There are many on line that have gear rations from 20:1 to 55:1...not sure what I have on both.

Thanks,
Dan
SM 116
FlyGirl
San Diego, CA


Re: SM main furler motor

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Gaerbox Re: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM main furler motor

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He ian here a foto fro ouer gaerbox
from Bonfiglioli .

In the afternoon i can send a foto from the bill with part numbers .

The Liroy Somer motor you can only order by Amel it was not possible to by it by any other .
The price is araund 800,00€

Best Elja







Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Re: SM main furler motor

Ian Townsend
 

I just took delivery for our Bonfiglioli unit. Lead time was several weeks. 

MITCH SILVERMAN
DRIVETECH AUTOMATION, INC.
5401 NW 102ND AVE.  #146
SUNRISE, FL. 33351
TEL: 954-746-9800
FAX: 954-746-5509
WEBSITE: WWW.DRIVETECHONLINE.COM


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Sep 15, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Dan Taylor <svflygirl@...> wrote:

Mark,
Can you provide the model number and company you purchased it from for the Bonfiglioli MVF44.

Also, what does the gear ratio for the main furler and outhaul furler need to be?  There are many on line that have gear rations from 20:1 to 55:1...not sure what I have on both.

Thanks,
Dan
SM 116
FlyGirl
San Diego, CA


Lip Seals and Outhaul gearbox

Mike Ondra
 

Some have fitted the outhaul gearbox with grease fittings. How has that worked out?

We have been trying to seal the top shaft with RTV where water lays to try to mitigate water intrusion and rust. Other ideas?

Also the factory paint job seemed to hold up only 2 or 3 years. Power coat or epoxy on the, what appears to be, cast aluminum?

Thanks, Mike

 

Rebuilding our outhaul gearbox, bow thruster, and replacing drive shaft seals pushed me to do an inventory of all our lip seals. Thought the list might be of use to others, or others may have additions/corrections/comments in developing a master, at least for SMs. Note our hull #240.

 


Re: SM main furler motor

Mike Ondra
 

Hi Dan.

I see you are SM#116 and looking at Bonfiglioli gearbox. We are Hull #240 with Leroy Somer MVA M33 gearbox but the reduction ratio should hold true depending on motor speed. Ours is 1:60 paired with a 3000 rpm motor.

Best,

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240 Chesapeake and Martinique bound

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Taylor
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2019 3:38 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM main furler motor

 

Mark,
Can you provide the model number and company you purchased it from for the Bonfiglioli MVF44.

Also, what does the gear ratio for the main furler and outhaul furler need to be?  There are many on line that have gear rations from 20:1 to 55:1...not sure what I have on both.

Thanks,
Dan
SM 116
FlyGirl
San Diego, CA


Re: SM main furler motor

Dan Taylor
 

Mark,
Can you provide the model number and company you purchased it from for the Bonfiglioli MVF44.

Also, what does the gear ratio for the main furler and outhaul furler need to be?  There are many on line that have gear rations from 20:1 to 55:1...not sure what I have on both.

Thanks,
Dan
SM 116
FlyGirl
San Diego, CA


Want to buy used Genoa for SM

Russ Roberts
 

We're in the market for a serviceable Genoa to have onboard as a backup on our SM2K. Please email me if you have an extra one hanging around.
russ "dot" roberts "dot" va "at" gee-mail "dot" com.

Thanks!
Russ 
SM391


Re: Dishwasher top loading

Paul Brown
 

Thanks Joerg 

I have no choice but to install it, otherwise the admiral has me peeling potatoes as well as washing up

Regards Paul 


On 14 Sep 2019, at 10:35 am, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

No it replaces two drawers - no 2 and 3 from top.  I haven’t installed it - still thinking about it.  

Joerg


Color number for SM2K Redline

Olaf Bauer
 

Hello AMELians,

could someone provide the color numbers for a SM2K Redline for the white hull, the red water line and the red stripes at the top of the hull at the side.

Thanks so much :-)

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently inTrinidad


Re: AMEL 55 -2012 — Replacing CLIMA aircon unit systems with a schiller central unit

Theo s/v Paloma
 

For what it's worth, the aircon system on our Amel 50 is AMAZING! It is very quiet and works perfectly. The central chiller unit is in the engine room. If you can convert to it, in my opinion, it would be worth it.

Theo
s/v Paloma
Amel 50 #18


Re: AMEL 55 -2012 — Replacing CLIMA aircon unit systems with a schiller central unit

Jose Alegria
 

Bill, hi

Thank you very much for your opinion but I would like to detail the situation further and request your re-examination

The Amel 50 and 60 currently come equipped with a central chiller system  (Webasto ) and the last 55 at least from July 2017 have also been equipped with central chiller systems.

My actual situation: My 55 hull nº 3 comes with:
2 compact CLIMA in the aft cabin both of 3.5; in the saloon one of 7 plus other 12 and in the front  cabin another of 7; 5 equipments of a total of 33,000 btu, but 3,5 + 3,5 at the main cabin are clearly insufficient in places like Greece in July-August; They are totally ineffective and extremely noisy.
How to solve?
a) Installing new independent CLIMA or WEBASTO equipment,  increasing power in the aft cabin to at least 12-15 000BTU and benefiting from the fact that the most modern appliances have about 25% more cooling capacity,
b) keeping 5 equipment and also keeping the noise of the compressors in the noble spaces
or
following the current Amel philosophy by placing a WEBASTO  variable speed schiller  (Webasto V50) that drains only at 2.5 to 15 amp, not exceeding 5/8 amp in eco mode, and puts 5 air handlers (smaller than the compact units)
How change all pipes system?
Probably the path of the current saltwater circuit can be replaced by Schiller liquid (water and glycol).
I will also be able to take advantage of the condensate circuit to make the pipes pass through the same holes.
And maybe I need more new holes !....

I would be grateful for your more detailed appreciation of the issue.

Thanks in advance

Can you 


Re: Dishwasher top loading

Joerg Esdorn
 

No it replaces two drawers - no 2 and 3 from top.  I haven’t installed it - still thinking about it.  

Joerg


Re: Reckman EF90 Genoa furler

Joerg Esdorn
 

Type 2 for both Genoa and staysail.  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53
Kincsem


Re: Dishwasher top loading

Paul Brown
 

Thank you Joerg 

Did you install this to your 55 and if so what location?

In the early 55 model they installed a top-loader

Regards Paul 


On 13 Sep 2019, at 5:37 pm, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Hi Paul, this is the unit Amel installs now.  BOSCH SKT 5102.  Let me know how you like it!!

joerg Esdorn 
A55#53
Kincsem
currently in Sevilla 


Re: Reckman EF90 Genoa furler

 

Although I can find nothing on Amel specifications, I believe that you will find that the Reckmann EF series comes in 3 sizes: EF-90, EF90-2, and EF90-3 and that the Reckmann EF-90 is installed on the 55 and a recommended replacement for bamar on the 54. 

If I were you, I would ask this question to SAV"at"Amel.fr.

--
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 8:47 AM Aldo Roldan via Groups.Io <aroldan1796=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Question for the group.  What is the size of the Reckman EF90 Genoa electric furler in the AMEL 55? I have been told it would be either a 2 or a 3, but which one?

Aldo
AMEL 55 Hull 36

On Sep 11, 2019, at 3:55 PM, Roque <ediroque@...> wrote:

Alan

I recently bought from Amel. The rubber valve is a reinforced new version ( see pic)

1 [03028] KIT POMPE MARINA ZZ 219424/ Electric bilge pump repair kit  E$124,60 plus VAT
2 [03219] CLAPET ASPIRATION POMPE HENDERSON 72621/ Rubber valve for electric bilge pump E$17,42 each  34,84 plus VAT

Rgds

Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty

Em qua, 11 de set de 2019 às 16:46, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> escreveu:
Amel - sav@... recently had them for the Marina ZZ
TF Marine makes an identical pump. It is either number TM-50 or TM-70...not sure. I cannot tell you where to find TF Marine spares, except at Amel...Amel replaced the reya pump with TF Marine.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:33 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Hi All, Does anyone know where to get the rebuild kits for the Reya Marina ZZ bilge pump. I got on the Reya website but if my translation is right they do not sell to individuals and a google search under their part numbers has not turned up any suppliers.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
St Michaels, MD

<Kit pompe de cale électrique ref 3028.JPG>


Re: Dishwasher top loading

Joerg Esdorn
 

Hi Paul, this is the unit Amel installs now.  BOSCH SKT 5102.  Let me know how you like it!!

joerg Esdorn 
A55#53
Kincsem
currently in Sevilla 


Reckman EF90 Genoa furler

Aldo Roldan
 

Question for the group.  What is the size of the Reckman EF90 Genoa electric furler in the AMEL 55? I have been told it would be either a 2 or a 3, but which one?

Aldo
AMEL 55 Hull 36

On Sep 11, 2019, at 3:55 PM, Roque <ediroque@...> wrote:

Alan

I recently bought from Amel. The rubber valve is a reinforced new version ( see pic)

1 [03028] KIT POMPE MARINA ZZ 219424/ Electric bilge pump repair kit  E$124,60 plus VAT
2 [03219] CLAPET ASPIRATION POMPE HENDERSON 72621/ Rubber valve for electric bilge pump E$17,42 each  34,84 plus VAT

Rgds

Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty

Em qua, 11 de set de 2019 às 16:46, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> escreveu:
Amel - sav@... recently had them for the Marina ZZ
TF Marine makes an identical pump. It is either number TM-50 or TM-70...not sure. I cannot tell you where to find TF Marine spares, except at Amel...Amel replaced the reya pump with TF Marine.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:33 PM Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Hi All, Does anyone know where to get the rebuild kits for the Reya Marina ZZ bilge pump. I got on the Reya website but if my translation is right they do not sell to individuals and a google search under their part numbers has not turned up any suppliers.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
St Michaels, MD

<Kit pompe de cale électrique ref 3028.JPG>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

eric freedman
 

Hi Kent,

Thanks

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:33 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

I ordered from Amel, I haven’t received it yet, but Maud had several kinds.  I described what was originally installed and she said she’d send what appears to be the same.  It’s a D with all the walls the same, about 5mm thick all the way.  She didn’t know anything about the cylindrical piece that was described as placed into the D seals at the corners, and said they don’t have anything like that.

 

When I get it, I’ll take some pics and try to describe the material and compressibility.

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

SM243


On Sep 12, 2019, at 8:38 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Kent,

What gasket did you find for this job?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 4:10 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile. 

 

That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.

 

Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocen Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kent,

 

If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me know what they say

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:11 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

 

 

Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).

 

 

I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

 

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.

 

 

It will take about 90' to do everything.




Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

 

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  

 

 

Regards,

Steve

Aloha SM72

 

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

karkauai
 

I ordered from Amel, I haven’t received it yet, but Maud had several kinds.  I described what was originally installed and she said she’d send what appears to be the same.  It’s a D with all the walls the same, about 5mm thick all the way.  She didn’t know anything about the cylindrical piece that was described as placed into the D seals at the corners, and said they don’t have anything like that.

When I get it, I’ll take some pics and try to describe the material and compressibility.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Sep 12, 2019, at 8:38 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Kent,

What gasket did you find for this job?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2019 4:10 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile. 

 

That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.

 

Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocen Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm

 

 

 

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Kent,

 

If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me know what they say

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:11 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

 

 

Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).

 

 

I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

 

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.

 

 

It will take about 90' to do everything.



Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,

 

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  

 

 

Regards,

Steve

Aloha SM72