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Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Mike Ondra
 

Great. You have transport from Weems Creek?

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2019 3:18 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show

 

Mike,

I'm keen to join the maintenance/repair get together on your boat. Thanks for hosting it!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
Currently anchored at Weems Creek, MD
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thomas,

Do your ML7720B disconnects completely disconnect the battery? I would like to simply disconnect the loads,  but allow the charging circuits to remain intact as our Victron VE.BMS has separate triggers to cutoff charging (overvoltage or over temperature) and load (under voltage). 

I talked to Victron about using three BP220 load disconnects, one for each battery, but two problems arose: (1) the BP220 is not bidirectional with respect to current and (2) I don't want to disconnect the battery, just the load.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Scott SV Tengah
 
Edited

Soraya,

I can say that the March Brushless won't work if you're cooling the fridges with fresh water. I switched to a Marco UP2A (Correction: UP2-P) pump as you can replace the brushes/seals for cheap and they seem to meet my requirements: low draw and 4L per minute at 12v.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Scott SV Tengah
 

Mike,

I'm keen to join the maintenance/repair get together on your boat. Thanks for hosting it!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
Currently anchored at Weems Creek, MD
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Polar Files for Amel 54

Scott SV Tengah
 

Alex,

I can't remember where I got this from and haven't verified the accuracy, but here ya go.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Mike Ondra
 

I checked with Davis’ Pub (Eastport) for Thursday evening. They do not take reservations but said they are not too busy between 5:00 and 6:00 so seating for 10 or so should not be a problem. Let’s shoot for 5:30. Alan and Kent/Iris have expressed interest in dinner. All are welcome aboard Aletes earlier in the afternoon to talk about the exciting topic of Amel maintenance.  Please confirm attendance at either event. Looking forward it!

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

 

From: Mike Ondra <mdondra@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:08 AM
To: 'main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io' <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show

 

For the maintenance/repairs “forum” (sounds way too formal) I have RSVP’s so far from Jay Pokorski and Charles (SV Saturn). We’ll meet on Aletes (anchored at the mouth of Back  Creek…unless weather pushes an alternative anchorage…will advise) at 2:00 Thursday afternoon. Anyone land based or dinghy deprived that wants to attend let us know and we can arrange a pickup. Anyone is welcome to join us for beverages and dinner afterwards at Davis’ Pub.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2019 4:51 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show

 

Aletes would like to host an Amel maintenance/repair forum on board either Thurs or Friday afternoon of Boat Show week. The idea would be to share everyone’s experiences with some of the unique equipment on our vessels.

 

Possible topics, and please add to the list, might include:

Bow Thrusters, furling gearboxes (motorized and manual), battery strategies, deck finish (restoration and striping), anti-fouling, hard-won lessons and other tricks.

 

We’ll do it if there is interest, so let me know which day and additional topics. Bring your issues and get the insights of others.

 

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay


Re: Companionway screen

Ric <ric@...>
 

May I chime in? I have a 2 roll up companionway covers. One is a blackout cover that  snaps on & rolls down to allow crew to turn on lights  below without the loss of night vision for watch. The other.is a roll down screen that snaps in place at top. Both 1 piece and rolls up for easy storage. Screen has cloth edges for snaps & weights at bottom. 
Bali Hai Annapolis 
Currently for sale


Ric Gottschalk
Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc

No employee or agent is authorized to conclude any binding agreement on behalf of Kitchen Magic Refacers, Inc without express written confirmation by a Officer of the Corporation

On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

   I just got it so I have little experience with stowing it.  I saved the flat cardboard box it came it and now store it in the box on top of the battery compartment berth where awkward items seem to get stored.  I think it can slide into the life raft locker.

   Mark

Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

On 10/6/2019 1:49 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Mark,
Where do you stow it when not in use?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
  
I ordered a screen with these dimensions (in inches):

Width:  24 7/8
Height: 30 5/8

I would recommend reducing the width by 1/8 or 3/16 as my screen bows slightly at the base. The height get right up to the top slider.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Rhode Island, USA


Re: Companionway screen

karkauai
 

Thanks Mark

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 7, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Kent,

   I just got it so I have little experience with stowing it.  I saved the flat cardboard box it came it and now store it in the box on top of the battery compartment berth where awkward items seem to get stored.  I think it can slide into the life raft locker.

   Mark

Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

On 10/6/2019 1:49 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Mark,
Where do you stow it when not in use?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
  
I ordered a screen with these dimensions (in inches):

Width:  24 7/8
Height: 30 5/8

I would recommend reducing the width by 1/8 or 3/16 as my screen bows slightly at the base. The height get right up to the top slider.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Rhode Island, USA


Re: Companionway screen

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Kent,

   I just got it so I have little experience with stowing it.  I saved the flat cardboard box it came it and now store it in the box on top of the battery compartment berth where awkward items seem to get stored.  I think it can slide into the life raft locker.

   Mark

Sabbatical III, SM419, Rhode Island, USA

On 10/6/2019 1:49 PM, karkauai via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Mark,
Where do you stow it when not in use?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
  
I ordered a screen with these dimensions (in inches):

Width:  24 7/8
Height: 30 5/8

I would recommend reducing the width by 1/8 or 3/16 as my screen bows slightly at the base. The height get right up to the top slider.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Rhode Island, USA


Re: Staysail on a Super Maramu

Paul Osterberg
 

We had a stay sail installed a few years ago in Turkey. Olivier had a look t it and had nothing negative to say about the installation. However the cut on the jib it self was not good. This year when our heard sail swivel broke down, it was a great advantage to have the stay sail. The same when our Genoa started to delaminate and falling apart on the way to the Azores, from Bermuda again it was great to have a stay sail. It will save on your genoa who will not need to be deployed in have weather up wind sailing. I do not find the stay sail to be an obstacle when tacking. First if going up wind we do not tack very often from 30 minutes to maybe 3 hours between the tack. Second we furl in ca 50 % of the Genua during the tack which we did even before we had the stay sail.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: Staysail on a Super Maramu

Thomas Kleman
 

My staysail is not from La Rochelle. However is was installed by Caraibe Greement (just down the dock from Amel in Martinique) per Alban's instructions regarding how it should be done. Very robust bracing and backstays along with the dos and donts of using it.

Tom and Kirstin
SV L'ORIENT
SM 2K 422


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Gary Wells
 
Edited

*** EDIT***  We have another couple coming to join us so the table is full. :)

Really late in the game here but Robin and I will be able to attend the big event.  Even though the restaurant said their reservations were "maxed out" once I dropped the "Amel" name I got put on hold, then I got told I'd get a call back and in fact they let us have a table at 7:00 P.M.

Better late than never :)

~AND~ it's a table for four so if there is another couple wanting seats let me know and you are welcome to join us. 

Looking forward to seeing everyone!

Gary & Robin

SM 209, Adagio
Galesville, MD


Important Update Re: No steering parts, rack & pinion, cables, from Amel

 

Eamonn and all others:

The following is from the Manager of SAV in La Rochelle:

The reality is that Italian steering rack manufacturer has decided to stop this production without warning.

We are working to find an alternative.

If you need steering parts, please email SAV"at"Amel.fr

Bill
--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:00 AM Eamonn Washington <eamonn.washington@...> wrote:
I don’t know about the 54, but on the Super Maramu I oil the chain (between the drive unit and the wheel) every 6 months or so, and ensure that the rods attached to the quadrant are well greased (so they can slide into the tube).

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Denia, Spain.


Polar Files for Amel 54

Alexander Hofmann
 

Hey Amel54 owners!
Who can send me a polar file which works well with Amel54 please?
Thanks a lot in advance,
Alexander
SY Oceanica I Amel54#156
DACJ 211 625 220


Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi Matt
This was 2 years ago since then they have changed their restrictions in the Caribbean so much for hurricane protection that I have changed to Novamar
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Secret Harbour Grenada


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 9:00 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

Courtney,
When did this happen.
I’m shopping for insurance for our new Amel, and was steered away from Pantaenius USA by many....
Thanks,

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

When I first bought Trippin we had a near lightning strike not direct but close enough other boats in the Marina were affected Pantaenius US was my carrier and covered Most of the costs upward of $17,000 and were very easy to work with.
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Secret Harbour Grenada 


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

The only way to prevent lightning damage to electronics is to be far away from a strike. You need to find a carrier that covers electronics. It’s a pricey fix! Ask Pantaenius again to rewrite your coverage to include electronics in case if lightning strike.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:41 AM, Jeroen jeltes <j.jeltes@...> wrote:

is this topic still active ?? Since this topic is several years past, and situations might have changed including insurance companies, i like to bring it up again .

Dear Olivier and Biil and all forum members. 

We are owner of Fidelis  A54 2009 and surveyed by Olivier in April 2018.

We recently changed insurance company because our previous insurers had no ocean going vessel experience.

Now we have Panteanius who seem to be professional and experienced and have some good recommendations,  yet..

On the policy( september 2019)  is a special reservation which excludes damage on electrical systems and navigatinal equipment caused by

lightningstrike , if there is no special system to prevent this damage !

The question is, would the existing bonding system be accepted te prevent damage  by lighting strike ?

Have yacht owners added new systems now insurance companies seem to reduce their risk ?

comment welcome.

Jeroen Jeltes

sv Fidelis A54


Re: Companionway screen

Mark Erdos
 

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I am of the mindset, the simpler the better. We made this companionway screen for Cream Puff from scraps we had left from a full cockpit screen enclosure we made. Some places we have visited were quite buggy and having the cockpit screened in allowed us to still enjoy the topside without applying massive amounts of insect repellant. Pics of the full enclosure can be seen here: https://www.creampuff.us/2016/03/off-insect-spray-the-unofficial-perfume-of-the-bahamas/

 

The companionway screen stays up almost all of the time when we are not sailing. It is constructed of pet-proof screen (available at most hardware stores. The screen is fastened with two snaps at the top corners. We sewed a vinyl border on to stiffen the screen. In the lower hem is a PVC pipe filled with sand to weight it. It is very easy to flip up out of the way when wishing to exit the interior of the boat. Works like a charm. The screen also give us some privacy below when stern in at a marina.

 

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

 


Re: Staysail on a Super Maramu

Charles Macdonald <c.macdonald@...>
 

On my Maramu, I  had my staysail (trinquette avec enrouleur sur étai fixe) installed by Secteur Blanc in La Rochelle. The owner/manager has been working for and under Henri Amel for twenty years or more. They know what they are doing.
Charles
SV Inuit


Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

Matt Salatino
 

Courtney,
When did this happen.
I’m shopping for insurance for our new Amel, and was steered away from Pantaenius USA by many....
Thanks,

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 7, 2019, at 8:47 AM, Courtney Gorman via Groups.Io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

When I first bought Trippin we had a near lightning strike not direct but close enough other boats in the Marina were affected Pantaenius US was my carrier and covered Most of the costs upward of $17,000 and were very easy to work with.
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Secret Harbour Grenada 


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

The only way to prevent lightning damage to electronics is to be far away from a strike. You need to find a carrier that covers electronics. It’s a pricey fix! Ask Pantaenius again to rewrite your coverage to include electronics in case if lightning strike.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:41 AM, Jeroen jeltes <j.jeltes@...> wrote:

is this topic still active ?? Since this topic is several years past, and situations might have changed including insurance companies, i like to bring it up again .

Dear Olivier and Biil and all forum members. 

We are owner of Fidelis  A54 2009 and surveyed by Olivier in April 2018.

We recently changed insurance company because our previous insurers had no ocean going vessel experience.

Now we have Panteanius who seem to be professional and experienced and have some good recommendations,  yet..

On the policy( september 2019)  is a special reservation which excludes damage on electrical systems and navigatinal equipment caused by

lightningstrike , if there is no special system to prevent this damage !

The question is, would the existing bonding system be accepted te prevent damage  by lighting strike ?

Have yacht owners added new systems now insurance companies seem to reduce their risk ?

comment welcome.

Jeroen Jeltes

sv Fidelis A54


Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

Beaute Olivier
 

Hello Jeroen,

there is not any good system to prevent the damages of a lightning strike. Even if the lightning strikes 100 m away form your vessel, the electronics could all be damaged through the electromagnetic field generated. This is  including alternators, battery chargers, washing machines, etc...
The purpose of the bonding system installed in the AMEL boats is to fight galvanic corrosion and/or detect a power leak able to create electrolytic corrosion. The main reason is that the wires used in this circuit are too small to stand any high power strike.


However there may be a way to "comply" with the insurers wish, and in order to show that you made the best you could to "drive" the lightning power to water. You should be be able to show your insurers (or the claim surveyor they commit) that you had such an equipment on board.
The equipment is a pair of copper cables, or stainless steel cables (standing rigging) 3m long each, with the same diameter as your top shrouds (12mm) or bigger, that you attach to the top shrouds on both sides thanks to a stainless steel cable clip when a thunderstorm comes or when you leave your vessel unattended in a marina (especially in the intertropical belt/convergence zone).
In order not to damage your hull, you will have these cables installed in rubber sleeves ( such as a water hose).

Again, this will definitely not protect the vessel against lightning strikes and consequences, but you'll be able to show something to your insurers.

Olivier

On Monday, October 7, 2019, 02:24:21 PM GMT+2, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:


The only way to prevent lightning damage to electronics is to be far away from a strike. You need to find a carrier that covers electronics. It’s a pricey fix! Ask Pantaenius again to rewrite your coverage to include electronics in case if lightning strike.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:41 AM, Jeroen jeltes <j.jeltes@...> wrote:

is this topic still active ?? Since this topic is several years past, and situations might have changed including insurance companies, i like to bring it up again .

Dear Olivier and Biil and all forum members. 

We are owner of Fidelis  A54 2009 and surveyed by Olivier in April 2018.

We recently changed insurance company because our previous insurers had no ocean going vessel experience.

Now we have Panteanius who seem to be professional and experienced and have some good recommendations,  yet..

On the policy( september 2019)  is a special reservation which excludes damage on electrical systems and navigatinal equipment caused by

lightningstrike , if there is no special system to prevent this damage !

The question is, would the existing bonding system be accepted te prevent damage  by lighting strike ?

Have yacht owners added new systems now insurance companies seem to reduce their risk ?

comment welcome.

Jeroen Jeltes

sv Fidelis A54


Re: Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

Courtney Gorman
 

When I first bought Trippin we had a near lightning strike not direct but close enough other boats in the Marina were affected Pantaenius US was my carrier and covered Most of the costs upward of $17,000 and were very easy to work with.
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101
Secret Harbour Grenada 


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt@...>
To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Sent: Mon, Oct 7, 2019 8:24 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Lighting strike vs insurance [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu - Main Mast Grounding / Bonding

The only way to prevent lightning damage to electronics is to be far away from a strike. You need to find a carrier that covers electronics. It’s a pricey fix! Ask Pantaenius again to rewrite your coverage to include electronics in case if lightning strike.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 7, 2019, at 4:41 AM, Jeroen jeltes <j.jeltes@...> wrote:

is this topic still active ?? Since this topic is several years past, and situations might have changed including insurance companies, i like to bring it up again .

Dear Olivier and Biil and all forum members. 

We are owner of Fidelis  A54 2009 and surveyed by Olivier in April 2018.

We recently changed insurance company because our previous insurers had no ocean going vessel experience.

Now we have Panteanius who seem to be professional and experienced and have some good recommendations,  yet..

On the policy( september 2019)  is a special reservation which excludes damage on electrical systems and navigatinal equipment caused by

lightningstrike , if there is no special system to prevent this damage !

The question is, would the existing bonding system be accepted te prevent damage  by lighting strike ?

Have yacht owners added new systems now insurance companies seem to reduce their risk ?

comment welcome.

Jeroen Jeltes

sv Fidelis A54