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Re: Forward Looking Sonar

karkauai
 

Maybe I should have a look on someone else’s boat that finds it useful. It will take some serious convincing given my past experiences.

I’ve not been in many places where I’m anchoring in 10+ meters thus far, maybe my opinion will change when I get to the Pacific. In clear water we rely heavily on slow speed and eyeball navigation, and travel when the light is good. In muddy water it’s all about going slow and asking for local knowledge. I’ve only run aground twice when I got bad advice from local marina and fisherman, I was going at a snail’s pace and no damage was done.

To say we shouldn’t be insured without forward looking sonar is a bit over the top.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy


Re: Amel Mango Emergency Tiller Storage Location

Charles Bell
 

Thank you Alan!

I will go take some measures and see if I can tuck then up about the pilot berth shelf.


Charles


Re: Amel Cdrive seal kit

 

Jean Luc,

The Amel 55 C-Drive Propeller Shaft Wear Bushing and Seal Kit. I am 100% positive that you can get this only at Amel.
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Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 8:46 AM jlm@... <jlm@...> wrote:

Bill,

About what for C-drive seals you are speeking ?

Jean Luc


Le 21/08/2019 à 15:11, CW Bill Rouse a écrit :
Paul,

I think that  www.123roulement.com is a good company, but I am 99% sure that they will NOT have the Amel-made wear bushing. They may have seals that fit, but to ensure you are getting the best seal for the job, don't try to save a few euros.

My advice is to purchase the wear bushing and seals from Amel only. The 55 has a larger output shaft and thus larger wear bushing and seals than the SM & 54. The procedure is also different. Email sav"at"amel.fr. Ask for the complete kit and also ask for instructions. The last time someone asked for instructions, Amel sent them instructions for SM & 54. Hopefully that has changed.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:53 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
hello all, I’m inquiring please  for assistance to where I can purchase the Cdrive seal kit and at what estimated price? Can this only be purchased through Amel or is it a standard product from a distributor or manufacturer?

thank you for your time 

regards paul - Fortuna II 55#17

Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com


Re: Always check your contractors' work

Mark Erdos
 

Ken,

IMO, FaceBook or other social media is where people can freely rant unchecked about stuff. I for one prefer this forum to be clear of opinions and criticism (such as I am doing now).

" Open discussion, with honest opinion, with no "political" agenda, that's what I think owners are looking for. " As an owner, this is NOT what I am looking for.




With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 10:33 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Always check your contractors' work

Bill,

I agree, maybe this isn't the place to have open honest discussions
about things that happen when working on, or getting your Amel
repaired.. My question is, where is the right place, because I want
to be a member there?

I want to know when someone does a good job, and when someone really
screws up a boat! That's called clout.... If someone messes up my
boat, I am going to put it on YouTube, and I am going to tell everyone
I know what happened... In a way, that helps all Amel owners.

Open discussion, with honest opinion, with no "political" agenda,
that's what I think owners are looking for. I stand behind everything
I write! If he had a bad day with me, someone else can back him up,
and tell the rest of the Amel owners how great he is at his job. You
know, I listened for 10 minutes while he ranted in French screaming at
me! And, in the end he was totally wrong! You really want to try to
tell me he knows Climma, or that he is a good manager? Look, if we
all tip toe around the facts, where shall we go for facts?


Ken Powers
Aquarius
Soon to be in Never Never land

On 8/21/19, CW Bill Rouse <@billrouse> wrote:
Ken and others interested,

I do not think this forum is a place to criticize any business or person for
work performed on any Amel. The reason is that it would be one-sided, and
we all know that there are at least two sides to every story.

Caraibe Marine and all of its shops in Martinique are owned by Philippe
LECONTE. I know him very well and if anyone wants help with any problem with
any of his 8 different shops in Martinique, please ask me. My email address
is @billrouse. I also know Patrice FOUGEROUSE who manages Caraibe
Refrigeration for Philippe. I have found him to be very knowledgeable
regarding Frigoboat and Climma. He has also been very responsive. I also
know each of the managers that run Philippe's shops.

It is true that anyone can make a mistake, you and I included, and anyone
can be wrong, but regarding the honesty, integrity, and professionalism of
Philippe and all of the managers that work for him, I believe they exhibit
the very high standards.

This year we had the first ever Amel Yacht Owners Rally in Martinique.
Philippe LECONTE and Caraibe Marine Shops sponsored the rally and bought a
wonderful dinner for all of the participants. BTW, la Marina du Marin,
sponsored with reduced rates and other stuff, Carenantilles Yard gave away a
free haulout to one Rally participant, I gave away 2 of my Amel Books, and
JP and Stephanie at Caribbean Yacht Sales paid for the drinks at dinner.

I think that Martinique and all of the Martinique businesses I mentioned
above have created a special place to bring your Amel. In my "circle of the
world," I found no better place, especially considering the fact that Amel
has a company owned service facility there. The presence of Amel in
Martinique also allows for an expert advisor to all Martinique businesses
that you might deal with. I know for a fact that the businesses I mentioned
above have a great relationship with Amel and communicate often on specific
issues that are unique to Amel...you will not find that anywhere outside of
France.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Yacht School (formerly Amel School) - Supporting Amel Owners (
http://www.yachtschool.us/ )
720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My Calendar ( https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html )

Yacht School ( https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/ )




Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Stefano Biffi
 

I have ZEUS 2 With foward looking, works nice, helpful in low water. During the docking I can estimate how deep is below and how far is the other lip of the Harbour. Never used between submerged rocks, till now. 

Stefano
N’EVEREST Super Maramu 185
Italy 

Il giorno 21 ago 2019, alle ore 16:02, Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32@...> ha scritto:

When we replaced all our electronic due to lightning damage ,we went with the latest B&G equipment,including forward looking sonar. We had Interphase prior and for me it was like trying to read a ultrasound . The B&G sonar sends false images of things that do not exist ,with the bottom going up and down and what looks like walls showing and then disappearing . These false signals have instilled no confidence to the point I never turn it on and at this point I consider a big waste of money. It was professionally installed and I have spoken to the installer as well as B&G reps. at the boat show , I have gotten no answers . I got to the point that I assume this is the state of the art ,when it comes to sonar. 
But after reading what a few of you have said about your sonar,which are older than mine ,I am convinced that something is wrong with my unit. Does anyone have B&G forward looking sonar ,how is it working for you, false images ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Aug 21, 2019 1:36 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward Looking Sonar

We have the Interphase forward looking sonar on our A54 and use it often. It's not perfect, but definitely useful.

As Ken noted, we often use it to scope out the surrounding depths to account for any swinging. And more than once it has showed us that the charts aren't perfect and given us time to go astern hard to avoid a collision with an uncharted obstacle.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Always check your contractors' work

 

Ken,

Google reviews, yelp, and others allow for both sides of the review to be seen, customers and businesses. Since our suppliers and people who work for us are not members of this group, this is not the place.

Believe me, I have seen more than one situation where the complainant presented a one-sided case that was believed by many, but the complainant was wrong. I have seen the opposite also.

So, I hope you understand why our group is not the place to complain about vendors and services. I am sure that you agree if you owned a business, you would not want to have a complaint posted that you could not respond to.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 9:33 AM Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:
Bill,

I agree, maybe this isn't the place to have open honest discussions
about things that happen when working on, or getting your Amel
repaired..  My question is, where is the right place, because I want
to be a member there?

I want to know when someone does a good job, and when someone really
screws up a boat! That's called clout....  If someone messes up my
boat, I am going to put it on YouTube, and I am going to tell everyone
I know what happened... In a way, that helps all Amel owners.

Open discussion, with honest opinion, with no "political" agenda,
that's what I think owners are looking for.  I stand behind everything
I write!  If he had a bad day with me, someone else can back him up,
and tell the rest of the Amel owners how great he is at his job.  You
know, I listened for 10 minutes while he ranted in French screaming at
me!  And, in the end he was totally wrong!  You really want to try to
tell me he knows Climma, or that he is a good manager?   Look, if we
all tip toe around the facts, where shall we go for facts?


Ken Powers
Aquarius
Soon to be in Never Never land

On 8/21/19, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
> Ken and others interested,
>
> I do not think this forum is a place to criticize any business or person for
> work performed on any Amel.  The reason is that it would be one-sided, and
> we all know that there are at least two sides to every story.
>
> Caraibe Marine and all of its shops in Martinique are owned by Philippe
> LECONTE. I know him very well and if anyone wants help with any problem with
> any of his 8 different shops in Martinique, please ask me. My email address
> is brouse@.... I also know Patrice FOUGEROUSE who manages Caraibe
> Refrigeration for Philippe. I have found him to be very knowledgeable
> regarding Frigoboat and Climma. He has also been very responsive. I also
> know each of the managers that run Philippe's shops.
>
> It is true that anyone can make a mistake, you and I included, and anyone
> can be wrong, but regarding the honesty, integrity, and professionalism of
> Philippe and all of the managers that work for him, I believe they exhibit
> the very high standards.
>
> This year we had the first ever Amel Yacht Owners Rally in Martinique.
> Philippe LECONTE and Caraibe Marine Shops sponsored the rally and bought a
> wonderful dinner for all of the participants. BTW, la Marina du Marin,
> sponsored with reduced rates and other stuff, Carenantilles Yard gave away a
> free haulout to one Rally participant, I gave away 2 of my Amel Books, and
> JP and Stephanie at Caribbean Yacht Sales paid for the drinks at dinner.
>
> I think that Martinique and all of the Martinique businesses I mentioned
> above have created a special place to bring your Amel. In my "circle of the
> world," I found no better place, especially considering the fact that Amel
> has a company owned service facility there. The presence of Amel in
> Martinique also allows for an expert advisor to all Martinique businesses
> that you might deal with. I know for a fact that the businesses I mentioned
> above have a great relationship with Amel and communicate often on specific
> issues that are unique to Amel...you will not find that anywhere outside of
> France.
>
> Best,
>
> CW Bill Rouse
>
> Yacht School (formerly Amel School) - Supporting Amel Owners (
> http://www.yachtschool.us/ )
> 720 Winnie St
>
> Galveston Island, TX 77550
> +1(832) 380-4970
> My Calendar ( https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html )
>
> Yacht School ( https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/ )
>
>
>
>




Re: Always check your contractors' work

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Bill,

I agree, maybe this isn't the place to have open honest discussions
about things that happen when working on, or getting your Amel
repaired.. My question is, where is the right place, because I want
to be a member there?

I want to know when someone does a good job, and when someone really
screws up a boat! That's called clout.... If someone messes up my
boat, I am going to put it on YouTube, and I am going to tell everyone
I know what happened... In a way, that helps all Amel owners.

Open discussion, with honest opinion, with no "political" agenda,
that's what I think owners are looking for. I stand behind everything
I write! If he had a bad day with me, someone else can back him up,
and tell the rest of the Amel owners how great he is at his job. You
know, I listened for 10 minutes while he ranted in French screaming at
me! And, in the end he was totally wrong! You really want to try to
tell me he knows Climma, or that he is a good manager? Look, if we
all tip toe around the facts, where shall we go for facts?


Ken Powers
Aquarius
Soon to be in Never Never land

On 8/21/19, CW Bill Rouse <@billrouse> wrote:
Ken and others interested,

I do not think this forum is a place to criticize any business or person for
work performed on any Amel. The reason is that it would be one-sided, and
we all know that there are at least two sides to every story.

Caraibe Marine and all of its shops in Martinique are owned by Philippe
LECONTE. I know him very well and if anyone wants help with any problem with
any of his 8 different shops in Martinique, please ask me. My email address
is @billrouse. I also know Patrice FOUGEROUSE who manages Caraibe
Refrigeration for Philippe. I have found him to be very knowledgeable
regarding Frigoboat and Climma. He has also been very responsive. I also
know each of the managers that run Philippe's shops.

It is true that anyone can make a mistake, you and I included, and anyone
can be wrong, but regarding the honesty, integrity, and professionalism of
Philippe and all of the managers that work for him, I believe they exhibit
the very high standards.

This year we had the first ever Amel Yacht Owners Rally in Martinique.
Philippe LECONTE and Caraibe Marine Shops sponsored the rally and bought a
wonderful dinner for all of the participants. BTW, la Marina du Marin,
sponsored with reduced rates and other stuff, Carenantilles Yard gave away a
free haulout to one Rally participant, I gave away 2 of my Amel Books, and
JP and Stephanie at Caribbean Yacht Sales paid for the drinks at dinner.

I think that Martinique and all of the Martinique businesses I mentioned
above have created a special place to bring your Amel. In my "circle of the
world," I found no better place, especially considering the fact that Amel
has a company owned service facility there. The presence of Amel in
Martinique also allows for an expert advisor to all Martinique businesses
that you might deal with. I know for a fact that the businesses I mentioned
above have a great relationship with Amel and communicate often on specific
issues that are unique to Amel...you will not find that anywhere outside of
France.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse

Yacht School (formerly Amel School) - Supporting Amel Owners (
http://www.yachtschool.us/ )
720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970
My Calendar ( https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html )

Yacht School ( https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/ )




Re: Amel Cdrive seal kit

Paul Brown
 

Thank you Bill for the good advice and I agree, also for the additional information which I wil fill

Kind regards and thank you for the ongoing assistance, very much appreciated 

Regards Paul 


On 21 Aug 2019, at 3:11 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Paul,

I think that  www.123roulement.com is a good company, but I am 99% sure that they will NOT have the Amel-made wear bushing. They may have seals that fit, but to ensure you are getting the best seal for the job, don't try to save a few euros.

My advice is to purchase the wear bushing and seals from Amel only. The 55 has a larger output shaft and thus larger wear bushing and seals than the SM & 54. The procedure is also different. Email sav"at"amel.fr. Ask for the complete kit and also ask for instructions. The last time someone asked for instructions, Amel sent them instructions for SM & 54. Hopefully that has changed.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:53 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
hello all, I’m inquiring please  for assistance to where I can purchase the Cdrive seal kit and at what estimated price? Can this only be purchased through Amel or is it a standard product from a distributor or manufacturer?

thank you for your time 

regards paul - Fortuna II 55#17


Re: Amel Cdrive seal kit

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Bill,

About what for C-drive seals you are speeking ?

Jean Luc


Le 21/08/2019 à 15:11, CW Bill Rouse a écrit :
Paul,

I think that  www.123roulement.com is a good company, but I am 99% sure that they will NOT have the Amel-made wear bushing. They may have seals that fit, but to ensure you are getting the best seal for the job, don't try to save a few euros.

My advice is to purchase the wear bushing and seals from Amel only. The 55 has a larger output shaft and thus larger wear bushing and seals than the SM & 54. The procedure is also different. Email sav"at"amel.fr. Ask for the complete kit and also ask for instructions. The last time someone asked for instructions, Amel sent them instructions for SM & 54. Hopefully that has changed.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:53 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
hello all, I’m inquiring please  for assistance to where I can purchase the Cdrive seal kit and at what estimated price? Can this only be purchased through Amel or is it a standard product from a distributor or manufacturer?

thank you for your time 

regards paul - Fortuna II 55#17

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Re: Amel Cdrive seal kit

 

Paul,

I think that  www.123roulement.com is a good company, but I am 99% sure that they will NOT have the Amel-made wear bushing. They may have seals that fit, but to ensure you are getting the best seal for the job, don't try to save a few euros.

My advice is to purchase the wear bushing and seals from Amel only. The 55 has a larger output shaft and thus larger wear bushing and seals than the SM & 54. The procedure is also different. Email sav"at"amel.fr. Ask for the complete kit and also ask for instructions. The last time someone asked for instructions, Amel sent them instructions for SM & 54. Hopefully that has changed.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 2:53 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
hello all, I’m inquiring please  for assistance to where I can purchase the Cdrive seal kit and at what estimated price? Can this only be purchased through Amel or is it a standard product from a distributor or manufacturer?

thank you for your time 

regards paul - Fortuna II 55#17


Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Patrick McAneny
 

When we replaced all our electronic due to lightning damage ,we went with the latest B&G equipment,including forward looking sonar. We had Interphase prior and for me it was like trying to read a ultrasound . The B&G sonar sends false images of things that do not exist ,with the bottom going up and down and what looks like walls showing and then disappearing . These false signals have instilled no confidence to the point I never turn it on and at this point I consider a big waste of money. It was professionally installed and I have spoken to the installer as well as B&G reps. at the boat show , I have gotten no answers . I got to the point that I assume this is the state of the art ,when it comes to sonar. 
But after reading what a few of you have said about your sonar,which are older than mine ,I am convinced that something is wrong with my unit. Does anyone have B&G forward looking sonar ,how is it working for you, false images ?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>
To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Aug 21, 2019 1:36 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Forward Looking Sonar

We have the Interphase forward looking sonar on our A54 and use it often. It's not perfect, but definitely useful.

As Ken noted, we often use it to scope out the surrounding depths to account for any swinging. And more than once it has showed us that the charts aren't perfect and given us time to go astern hard to avoid a collision with an uncharted obstacle.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Always check your contractors' work

 

Ken and others interested,
 
I do not think this forum is a place to criticize any business or person for work performed on any Amel.  The reason is that it would be one-sided, and we all know that there are at least two sides to every story.

Caraibe Marine and all of its shops in Martinique are owned by Philippe LECONTE. I know him very well and if anyone wants help with any problem with any of his 8 different shops in Martinique, please ask me. My email address is brouse@.... I also know Patrice FOUGEROUSE who manages Caraibe Refrigeration for Philippe. I have found him to be very knowledgeable regarding Frigoboat and Climma. He has also been very responsive. I also know each of the managers that run Philippe's shops.
 
It is true that anyone can make a mistake, you and I included, and anyone can be wrong, but regarding the honesty, integrity, and professionalism of Philippe and all of the managers that work for him, I believe they exhibit the very high standards.

This year we had the first ever Amel Yacht Owners Rally in Martinique. Philippe LECONTE and Caraibe Marine Shops sponsored the rally and bought a wonderful dinner for all of the participants. BTW, la Marina du Marin, sponsored with reduced rates and other stuff, Carenantilles Yard gave away a free haulout to one Rally participant, I gave away 2 of my Amel Books, and JP and Stephanie at Caribbean Yacht Sales paid for the drinks at dinner.

I think that Martinique and all of the Martinique businesses I mentioned above have created a special place to bring your Amel. In my "circle of the world," I found no better place, especially considering the fact that Amel has a company owned service facility there. The presence of Amel in Martinique also allows for an expert advisor to all Martinique businesses that you might deal with. I know for a fact that the businesses I mentioned above have a great relationship with Amel and communicate often on specific issues that are unique to Amel...you will not find that anywhere outside of France.
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 


Re: Always check your contractors' work

Scott SV Tengah
 

That's a fantastic idea!

Drink for worker = soda or rum/coke? :)

I guess the latter would make sure you work fast before he starts slurring his speech.
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Amel Cdrive seal kit

Paul Brown
 

Thank you Jean Luc, this is much appreciated and helpful 

Regards Paul 


On 21 Aug 2019, at 11:15 am, "jlm@..." <jlm@...> wrote:

Paul, in France you have www.123roulement.com .... You will find all what you need with fast delivery ....

Jean Luc


Le 21/08/2019 à 09:53, Paul Brown a écrit :
hello all, I’m inquiring please  for assistance to where I can purchase the Cdrive seal kit and at what estimated price? Can this only be purchased through Amel or is it a standard product from a distributor or manufacturer?

thank you for your time 

regards paul - Fortuna II 55#17



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Re: Amel Cdrive seal kit

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Paul, in France you have www.123roulement.com .... You will find all what you need with fast delivery ....

Jean Luc


Le 21/08/2019 à 09:53, Paul Brown a écrit :
hello all, I’m inquiring please  for assistance to where I can purchase the Cdrive seal kit and at what estimated price? Can this only be purchased through Amel or is it a standard product from a distributor or manufacturer?

thank you for your time 

regards paul - Fortuna II 55#17



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Amel Cdrive seal kit

Paul Brown
 

hello all, I’m inquiring please  for assistance to where I can purchase the Cdrive seal kit and at what estimated price? Can this only be purchased through Amel or is it a standard product from a distributor or manufacturer?

thank you for your time 

regards paul - Fortuna II 55#17


Re: Always check your contractors' work

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

This is how to go one step farther than just supervising your workers:

When I was in Shelter Bay Marina, there was a mechanic there, I think
they call him the Diesel Whisperer, or something like that... His
name might be Greg, and he is one very good mechanic if you need one
in Panama. I hired him to come over and change the coolant in both
the genset and the engine, and also clean out the heat exchangers
because my engine was overheating slightly at 2200 RPM.

When he got to Aquarius I gave him a cold drink, and said... "Today
this is your job, drink as much as you like, but you have to make sure
I do everything correctly".

He had all the proper tools for making sure that they system would
hold pressure, and he just instructed me on how to take everything
apart, and get it back together properly. So, the next time if I had
to do it, I could do it myself. And, I know it was done properly...
Well, it is still working after 600 hours.

O - The reason for the over-heating... 4 small pieces of impellers in
the heat exchanger from before I owned Aquarius.

Ken Powers
Aquarius
Currently in Indonesia

On 8/20/19, Scott SV Tengah <@Tengah> wrote:
Ah ok, I have not had experience with the refrigeration group.

Good thing you guys didn't take what they said at face value! That said, I
still believe having Amel's office nearby is invaluable so my vote is still
for Le Marin.

The electricians in Southern Spain were nice guys so I am a bit loathe to
hang them out to dry. But given how much additional time and money I have
wasted due to their shoddy work, I've realized that it's more important to
me that no fellow Amel owner has to go through what I did.

The group was Electrical Marine Services in Gibraltar. An English guy and a
South African. Initially I was very happy with their work as they actually
showed up on time or at all, unlike some of the other contractors we hired.
They got the work done on time, unlike the other contractors. As time
passed and problems with their work surfaced, my opinion of them changed.

The primary "other" contractor was MH Preserve at Alcaidesa Marina. They
were overwhelmed and understaffed for the quantity of work we had them do -
keep in mind this is right when we bought the boat. They came recommended by
a surveyor but I surmise they were buddies. Anyways it's run by an English
guy and his father does a lot of the work. With that (reverse?) nepotism,
the father was unfireable and the work quality and pace reflected that.
Additionally the marina makes it very expensive to bring in outside
contractors, so you're stuck with them.

The only reason we were able to leave was because my visa was running out.
Otherwise we'd probably still be there today!

-- Scott
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: Amel Mango Emergency Tiller Storage Location

marklesparkle59
 

Charles,
My emergency tiller on a Sharki lives in the cockpit lazarette. I might try it out on the
Companionway shelf although I wouldn't want it flying around.
Mark 



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From: Charles Bell <shipbldr2000@...>
Date: 21/08/2019 00:55 (GMT+00:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel Mango Emergency Tiller Storage Location

Can anyone tell me the correct location to store the Emergency tiller and rudder post extension on an Amel Mango?

The storage locations for all the other specialty parts on the boat make sense... but I cannot seem to find where the emergency tiller (180cm+ long) should be stored. When I took possession of my boat the emergency tiller was loose in the port cockpit lazarette. I just can't bring myself to think this is how the factory intended it to be stored.

I have read the posts regarding emergency tiller storage on the SM's. The emergency tiller arm on is too long to fit in the cabinets behind the pilot berth. The only location I have not eliminated is the bilge directly in front of the salon settee.

Did I miss something? Does anyone remember the factory storage location for the emergency tiller and supporting hardware?

Thank you,

Charles
SV Saturn
Amel Mango


Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Scott SV Tengah
 

We have the Interphase forward looking sonar on our A54 and use it often. It's not perfect, but definitely useful.

As Ken noted, we often use it to scope out the surrounding depths to account for any swinging. And more than once it has showed us that the charts aren't perfect and given us time to go astern hard to avoid a collision with an uncharted obstacle.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Always check your contractors' work

Scott SV Tengah
 

Ah ok, I have not had experience with the refrigeration group.

Good thing you guys didn't take what they said at face value! That said, I still believe having Amel's office nearby is invaluable so my vote is still for Le Marin. 

The electricians in Southern Spain were nice guys so I am a bit loathe to hang them out to dry. But given how much additional time and money I have wasted due to their shoddy work, I've realized that it's more important to me that no fellow Amel owner has to go through what I did.

The group was Electrical Marine Services in Gibraltar. An English guy and a South African. Initially I was very happy with their work as they actually showed up on time or at all, unlike some of the other contractors we hired. They got the work done on time, unlike the other contractors.  As time passed and problems with their work surfaced, my opinion of them changed.

The primary "other" contractor was MH Preserve at Alcaidesa Marina. They were overwhelmed and understaffed for the quantity of work we had them do - keep in mind this is right when we bought the boat. They came recommended by a surveyor but I surmise they were buddies. Anyways it's run by an English guy and his father does a lot of the work. With that (reverse?) nepotism, the father was unfireable and the work quality and pace reflected that. Additionally the marina makes it very expensive to bring in outside contractors, so you're stuck with them. 

The only reason we were able to leave was because my visa was running out. Otherwise we'd probably still be there today!


-- Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com