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Re: Winter cockpit room on 54

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Nick, we have a full cockpit enclosure with side and back curtains that roll up. Would be without it. We get the use of the full cockpit in any weather. No problem at sea. A must have in my opinion. If you look around you will see a lot of SM with these and some with better features than others so look around before you do it

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 06 October 2019 at 23:09 "ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io" <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Hello fellow Amel owners,

On Amelia I have the curtain that zips to the aft end of the spray hood that keeps the front half of the cockpit dry. It works very well and allows easy access to the winches and to look at the sails whilst actually sailing. The watch keeper is also kept dry even when running downwind.

Please see the attached photo.

I am considering getting the whole winter cockpit room made, obviously this would be great whilst in port or at anchor. My question is; how well does it work when actually sailing? 

Nick

Amelia AML54-019 still in Kefalonia


 


 


Re: Winter cockpit room on 54

Stefan Schaufert
 

Hello Nick,

the „winter enclosure“ is great. Even in hot weather ( just open some windows). Also when sailing you can use all sheets without opening the side windows. Especially for night watches it is fine (it stays warm, nearly like in the saloon, we sleep in the cockpit).
Disadvantages: worse watching the sails, more difficult to go outside/ on deck.

Best regards
Stefan

A54-119 Lady Charlyette, currently Porto Santo


Re: Amel 55 : Beam IV in Grenada

Joerg Esdorn
 

On the 24V panel.  Top of two round gauges.  At least on my boat.  


joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem


Companionway screen

Matt Salatino
 

Just to interject, this is from my previous boat, a Moody.
The previous owner installed it in Trinidad, more than 20 years ago. It’s been working very well, all these years. Rolls up, completely out of the way, very easy to deploy, very easy to stow, easy ingress and egress when deployed. Couldn’t ask for more. I sold the boat last June, and the new owners still use it.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

Begin forwarded message:

Photos taken by new owner for me...
image1.jpeg

image2.jpeg
Stowed

~~~⛵️~~~Matt


Re: Companionway screen

karkauai
 

Hi Mark,
Where do you stow it when not in use?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Oct 6, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

Hi Steve,
  
I ordered a screen with these dimensions (in inches):

Width:  24 7/8
Height: 30 5/8

I would recommend reducing the width by 1/8 or 3/16 as my screen bows slightly at the base. The height get right up to the top slider.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Rhode Island, USA


Re: Companionway screen

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Steve,
  
I ordered a screen with these dimensions (in inches):

Width:  24 7/8
Height: 30 5/8

I would recommend reducing the width by 1/8 or 3/16 as my screen bows slightly at the base. The height get right up to the top slider.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Rhode Island, USA


Re: Amel 55 : Beam IV in Grenada

Paul Brown
 

On my 55/17 it is above the fuel gauge on the 24v panel at the captains table

Regards Paul - Fortuna II


On 6 Oct 2019, at 1:16 am, Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:

Can anyone advise please where to find the water gauge in an Amel 55

 

Stuart

 

Stuart Hemingway AA Dipl DMS RIBA

 

Symbiotic Relationships Ltd.,

 

 Grove Park Studios,

188-192 Sutton court Road,

Chiswick,

London,

W4 3HR

 

Telephone

From the UK  :    001 561 371 2321

 

E . Studio@...

W. www.groveparkstudios.co.uk.

 


Re: Winter cockpit room on 54

karkauai
 

Hi Nick,
I just redid our SM cockpit enclosure last year.  We got caught in a 3-day gale this Spring and stayed dry (some dripping where zippers meet at corners) and warm in 35-45 kts winds and torrential rains.  I also raised the Bimini top a few inches so I can stand up straight and see all around the boat.  I have similar side panels out of sun screen that lets air through but shades and cools the cockpit a lot and keeps light rain out.

The new Bimini is supported forward on two poles that attach to the dodger, and aft by the mizzen forestays and cap shrouds.  It stays up all the time for shade, but has two large windows to trim sails and allows wind to blow through the cockpit when the forward window is stowed.  It has made life in the cockpit much better in all conditions.

I can’t find my pics, will post some next time the enclosure is up.



Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243

On Oct 6, 2019, at 6:09 AM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Hello fellow Amel owners,

On Amelia I have the curtain that zips to the aft end of the spray hood that keeps the front half of the cockpit dry. It works very well and allows easy access to the winches and to look at the sails whilst actually sailing. The watch keeper is also kept dry even when running downwind.<IMG_0988.jpeg>

Please see the attached photo.

I am considering getting the whole winter cockpit room made, obviously this would be great whilst in port or at anchor. My question is; how well does it work when actually sailing? 

Nick

Amelia AML54-019 still in Kefalonia


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

karkauai
 

We’d like to join you et al if we make it relatively early.  Have to drive back for Iris to work Fri AM.

Kent & Iris
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Oct 6, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:

We are on a mooring at the back of Back Creek right by Bert Jabins Yacht Yard. I’m keen to meet up at Davis pub on Thurs night.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 2:11:39 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show
 

[Edited Message Follows]

We are now anchored out in Weems Creek and will be here until right after the sailboat show. Spa and Back creek are full due the motorboat show. Some people are anchored out off Horn Point but that does not look comfortable.

I surmise it'll open up after the motorboat show finishes and we were considering trying to hunt for a mooring ball, but then again, we're pretty happy with our spot and the anchor held fine last night in 25 knot winds.

Anyone else arriving "early"?
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Amel 55 : Beam IV in Grenada

Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...>
 

Can anyone advise please where to find the water gauge in an Amel 55

 

Stuart

 

Stuart Hemingway AA Dipl DMS RIBA

 

Symbiotic Relationships Ltd.,

 

 Grove Park Studios,

188-192 Sutton court Road,

Chiswick,

London,

W4 3HR

 

Telephone

From the UK  :    001 561 371 2321

 

E . Studio@...

W. www.groveparkstudios.co.uk.

 


Re: Annapolis Boat Show

Alan Grayson
 

We are on a mooring at the back of Back Creek right by Bert Jabins Yacht Yard. I’m keen to meet up at Davis pub on Thurs night.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 2:11:39 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show
 

[Edited Message Follows]

We are now anchored out in Weems Creek and will be here until right after the sailboat show. Spa and Back creek are full due the motorboat show. Some people are anchored out off Horn Point but that does not look comfortable.

I surmise it'll open up after the motorboat show finishes and we were considering trying to hunt for a mooring ball, but then again, we're pretty happy with our spot and the anchor held fine last night in 25 knot winds.

Anyone else arriving "early"?
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Spurs linecutter

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hello to the group,
I would like to  buy a service-kit for the spurs linecutter for Amel 54.
Does anyone know the size or partnumber ?
Thank you very much Wolfgang SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: No steering parts, rack & pinion, cables, from Amel

Wolfgang Weber
 

Is there any need or way for regularly service the steering of an Amel 54 ?
Thank you very much Wolfgang SY Elise Amel 54 #162 Fort Lauderdale Bahia Mar


Re: Winter cockpit room on 54

Courtney Gorman
 

Nick 2 years ago we left Brunswick Georgia in January it was 30 degrees F we had the full winter enclosure and for 4 days were in 30+knots the enclosure worked great and when it warmed some we rolled up the side panels and kept on going.  I loved it 👍🏻
Courtney 
Trippin 
54 #101


On Oct 6, 2019, at 6:09 AM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Hello fellow Amel owners,

On Amelia I have the curtain that zips to the aft end of the spray hood that keeps the front half of the cockpit dry. It works very well and allows easy access to the winches and to look at the sails whilst actually sailing. The watch keeper is also kept dry even when running downwind.<IMG_0988.jpeg>

Please see the attached photo.

I am considering getting the whole winter cockpit room made, obviously this would be great whilst in port or at anchor. My question is; how well does it work when actually sailing? 

Nick

Amelia AML54-019 still in Kefalonia


Winter cockpit room on 54

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hello fellow Amel owners,

On Amelia I have the curtain that zips to the aft end of the spray hood that keeps the front half of the cockpit dry. It works very well and allows easy access to the winches and to look at the sails whilst actually sailing. The watch keeper is also kept dry even when running downwind.

Please see the attached photo.

I am considering getting the whole winter cockpit room made, obviously this would be great whilst in port or at anchor. My question is; how well does it work when actually sailing? 

Nick

Amelia AML54-019 still in Kefalonia


Re: Volvo TMD22 Timing Belt

Paul Osterberg
 

Thank you Craig, I will give it a shot.
Paul


Re: No steering parts, rack & pinion, cables, from Amel

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Good news.

Danny

On 06 October 2019 at 16:13 hanspeter baettig <hanspeter.baettig@...> wrote:

Hi Peterr,Bill and Danny
I totally also agree
I got my new steering systems in one week (rack and pistons) from Amel.
Easy to install , 3 houres,
And Bill , i shall send you a email, how it was done here in Trinidad.
Hanspeter
Tamango 2, SM16
Trinidad,

------ Original Nachricht ------
Am Samstag, 5. Okt, 2019 um 23:13, Peter Forbes schrieb:

I totally agree and am having lots of work done on Carango by AMEL in La Rochelle.

Let’s support them to support us.

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango
AMEL 54 #035La Rochelle 

0044 7836 209730

On 5 Oct 2019, at 19:30, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@... > wrote:

Hi Bill and all. I totally agree. If we want Amel to continue to provide spares for boats 15,20,30 and 40 years old they must be our first port of call for parts. This service is a colosall commitment on their part and I believe unique in the marine world. They cannot provide this service without throughput. That is down to us. We might get something "cheaper" elsewhere but long term the loss of this service would be very expensive. 

Use it or lose it as they say.

Kind Regards from that little bit of heaven called Fiji

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 06 October 2019 at 02:14 CW Bill Rouse < brouse@... > wrote:

Eamonn

Because you reported that Amel will no longer supply these parts, I contacted the US distributor, who said they would get in touch with the Italy headquarters.

I also wrote Amel to verify that they will not supply these parts. If Amel replies that they will supply parts, I will drop my efforts with the manufacturer because I firmly believe that we should support Amel. Frankly, had I known that you had requested parts from any source other than La Rochelle, I would have never contacted the distributor.

Now, I really wonder who you spoke to because the comment that when we have time, we will work on a hydraulic solution," seems very un-Amel to me. Maybe you spoke to the wrong person. In either case, hopefully I will have a response from SAV manager shortly. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 6:56 AM Eamonn Washington < eamonn.washington@...> wrote:
Thanks guys for your welcome input!

I have the Ultraflex M61 FT25 C42M cables.

Although the steering quadrant had no loose nuts and the 2 cables connected to it were well greased, I did notice a problem that I never noticed before and it probably was not there a year ago (maybe this is what Danny referred to).  Both cables leave their plastic sheath and are screwed into shafts with large adaptor nuts; these shafts in turn are screwed through what I would call a ball and socket joint to go through the last bulkhead on the port side just about 30cm before the steering quadrant itself, where they are connected to the quadrant.  In my case, the aft cable shaft had unscrewed itself about 2cm through the ball and socket joint towards the quadrant; I could see the grease mark where it previously was.  I was easily able to turn it back and it made a huge difference, both steering to port and starboard.  If anything, steering to starboard is slightly harder now.  I noticed there is about 1cm of play in the steering wheel.

Then I disconnected the autopilot drive unit and removed the chain from the wheel sprocket.  That eliminated some noise and I guess minimal friction.  It made no difference to the steering feel, but I could concentrate on the remaining noise better.

I noticed that every time there is a change of direction when turning the wheel, there is a quiet clunk (around the 1cm of play on the wheel).  This is regardless if the wheel is already turned to port or starboard or centered.  It might be normal, I don’t know.  I also noticed that the one of the cables moves in or out of the tube containing the rack a couple of mm when the wheel changes direction.  All this while tied up in a marina with no currents.

All in all, I don’t think my situation is as bad as I feared, the wheel is much lighter now, but I would still like to have the new racks and cables.  Nevertheless, the point of this thread to is to establish how we can get these critical spares going forward, knowing exactly what to order from Ultraflex seems to be the way to go (unless Amel takes up the reins again).  I appreciate Bill contacting Amel on our behalf ... I was dealing with Mediterranean sales, I guess Bill has a better network inside Amel.

Also it would be great if Eric or someone could confirm what Jean-Pierre wrote for the Santorin also applies for the Super Maramu, that the rack is 33014R (with T58 steering system trav. 230 ... not sure what that is).

I will contact Steve offline for help dismantling the rack and pinion system, to inspect it further.

Thanks.

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Denia, Spain.

 

 

</ppsforbes@...>
 


Re: No steering parts, rack & pinion, cables, from Amel

hanspeter baettig
 

Hi Peterr,Bill and Danny
I totally also agree
I got my new steering systems in one week (rack and pistons) from Amel.
Easy to install , 3 houres,
And Bill , i shall send you a email, how it was done here in Trinidad.
Hanspeter
Tamango 2, SM16
Trinidad,

------ Original Nachricht ------
Am Samstag, 5. Okt, 2019 um 23:13, Peter Forbes schrieb:

I totally agree and am having lots of work done on Carango by AMEL in La Rochelle.

Let’s support them to support us.

Peter

Peter Forbes
Carango
AMEL 54 #035
La Rochelle 

0044 7836 209730

On 5 Oct 2019, at 19:30, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Hi Bill and all. I totally agree. If we want Amel to continue to provide spares for boats 15,20,30 and 40 years old they must be our first port of call for parts. This service is a colosall commitment on their part and I believe unique in the marine world. They cannot provide this service without throughput. That is down to us. We might get something "cheaper" elsewhere but long term the loss of this service would be very expensive. 

Use it or lose it as they say.

Kind Regards from that little bit of heaven called Fiji

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 06 October 2019 at 02:14 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Eamonn

Because you reported that Amel will no longer supply these parts, I contacted the US distributor, who said they would get in touch with the Italy headquarters.

I also wrote Amel to verify that they will not supply these parts. If Amel replies that they will supply parts, I will drop my efforts with the manufacturer because I firmly believe that we should support Amel. Frankly, had I known that you had requested parts from any source other than La Rochelle, I would have never contacted the distributor.

Now, I really wonder who you spoke to because the comment that when we have time, we will work on a hydraulic solution," seems very un-Amel to me. Maybe you spoke to the wrong person. In either case, hopefully I will have a response from SAV manager shortly. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 6:56 AM Eamonn Washington < eamonn.washington@...> wrote:
Thanks guys for your welcome input!

I have the Ultraflex M61 FT25 C42M cables.

Although the steering quadrant had no loose nuts and the 2 cables connected to it were well greased, I did notice a problem that I never noticed before and it probably was not there a year ago (maybe this is what Danny referred to).  Both cables leave their plastic sheath and are screwed into shafts with large adaptor nuts; these shafts in turn are screwed through what I would call a ball and socket joint to go through the last bulkhead on the port side just about 30cm before the steering quadrant itself, where they are connected to the quadrant.  In my case, the aft cable shaft had unscrewed itself about 2cm through the ball and socket joint towards the quadrant; I could see the grease mark where it previously was.  I was easily able to turn it back and it made a huge difference, both steering to port and starboard.  If anything, steering to starboard is slightly harder now.  I noticed there is about 1cm of play in the steering wheel.

Then I disconnected the autopilot drive unit and removed the chain from the wheel sprocket.  That eliminated some noise and I guess minimal friction.  It made no difference to the steering feel, but I could concentrate on the remaining noise better.

I noticed that every time there is a change of direction when turning the wheel, there is a quiet clunk (around the 1cm of play on the wheel).  This is regardless if the wheel is already turned to port or starboard or centered.  It might be normal, I don’t know.  I also noticed that the one of the cables moves in or out of the tube containing the rack a couple of mm when the wheel changes direction.  All this while tied up in a marina with no currents.

All in all, I don’t think my situation is as bad as I feared, the wheel is much lighter now, but I would still like to have the new racks and cables.  Nevertheless, the point of this thread to is to establish how we can get these critical spares going forward, knowing exactly what to order from Ultraflex seems to be the way to go (unless Amel takes up the reins again).  I appreciate Bill contacting Amel on our behalf ... I was dealing with Mediterranean sales, I guess Bill has a better network inside Amel.

Also it would be great if Eric or someone could confirm what Jean-Pierre wrote for the Santorin also applies for the Super Maramu, that the rack is 33014R (with T58 steering system trav. 230 ... not sure what that is).

I will contact Steve offline for help dismantling the rack and pinion system, to inspect it further.

Thanks.

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Denia, Spain.

 

 


Re: Mizzen furler

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi again, for outhaul turning block read all the outhaul turning blocks.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 06 October 2019 at 09:57 Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, 

Likemany of you i have found the mizzen manual furler at times to be very stiff to operate, to the extent of fearing damage, I have a strong arm.😁 Now it is incredibly free. I can unfurl it by simply pulling the out haul line, easy as. It also rolls up with no effort at all. No I haven't done a gear box overhaul. I thoroughly washed the gearbox with fresh water, down the furler extrusion and also into the input shaft. Then I dropped the sail and rinsed the spinner at the top thoroughly. Also washed the outhaul turning block bearing surface, another salt collection point.  Waited for all to dry most of the day and sprayed silicone liberally.

Results phenomonal. I have siliconed the gear box before and the spinner (rarely) but not both together. My best guess is salt encrusting of the spinner rollers was causing the friction. Whatever, result is great. I encourage you all to try it. Do all the points

Kind Regards

Danny


 


Re: No steering parts, rack & pinion, cables, from Amel

eric freedman
 

The Amel 50 has hydraulic steering.

Fair Winds

 

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2019 9:14 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] No steering parts, rack & pinion, cables, from Amel

 

Eamonn

 

Because you reported that Amel will no longer supply these parts, I contacted the US distributor, who said they would get in touch with the Italy headquarters.

 

I also wrote Amel to verify that they will not supply these parts. If Amel replies that they will supply parts, I will drop my efforts with the manufacturer because I firmly believe that we should support Amel. Frankly, had I known that you had requested parts from any source other than La Rochelle, I would have never contacted the distributor.

 

Now, I really wonder who you spoke to because the comment that when we have time, we will work on a hydraulic solution," seems very un-Amel to me. Maybe you spoke to the wrong person. In either case, hopefully I will have a response from SAV manager shortly. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019, 6:56 AM Eamonn Washington <eamonn.washington@...> wrote:

Thanks guys for your welcome input!

I have the Ultraflex M61 FT25 C42M cables.

Although the steering quadrant had no loose nuts and the 2 cables connected to it were well greased, I did notice a problem that I never noticed before and it probably was not there a year ago (maybe this is what Danny referred to).  Both cables leave their plastic sheath and are screwed into shafts with large adaptor nuts; these shafts in turn are screwed through what I would call a ball and socket joint to go through the last bulkhead on the port side just about 30cm before the steering quadrant itself, where they are connected to the quadrant.  In my case, the aft cable shaft had unscrewed itself about 2cm through the ball and socket joint towards the quadrant; I could see the grease mark where it previously was.  I was easily able to turn it back and it made a huge difference, both steering to port and starboard.  If anything, steering to starboard is slightly harder now.  I noticed there is about 1cm of play in the steering wheel.

Then I disconnected the autopilot drive unit and removed the chain from the wheel sprocket.  That eliminated some noise and I guess minimal friction.  It made no difference to the steering feel, but I could concentrate on the remaining noise better.

I noticed that every time there is a change of direction when turning the wheel, there is a quiet clunk (around the 1cm of play on the wheel).  This is regardless if the wheel is already turned to port or starboard or centered.  It might be normal, I don’t know.  I also noticed that the one of the cables moves in or out of the tube containing the rack a couple of mm when the wheel changes direction.  All this while tied up in a marina with no currents.

All in all, I don’t think my situation is as bad as I feared, the wheel is much lighter now, but I would still like to have the new racks and cables.  Nevertheless, the point of this thread to is to establish how we can get these critical spares going forward, knowing exactly what to order from Ultraflex seems to be the way to go (unless Amel takes up the reins again).  I appreciate Bill contacting Amel on our behalf ... I was dealing with Mediterranean sales, I guess Bill has a better network inside Amel.

Also it would be great if Eric or someone could confirm what Jean-Pierre wrote for the Santorin also applies for the Super Maramu, that the rack is 33014R (with T58 steering system trav. 230 ... not sure what that is).

I will contact Steve offline for help dismantling the rack and pinion system, to inspect it further.

Thanks.

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Denia, Spain.