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Re: Companionway screen

Arlo
 

Why not just use a two piece screen (2 screens that are 1/2 the companionway height ) with or without a hinge?


Re: Companionway screen

Mark Pitt
 

Will do tomorrow.

On 10/3/2019 12:39 PM, Denise McGovern wrote:
Sound good.  Can you post a photo?
 
Denise McGovern
CARA, SM440, Chesapeake Bay


Re: 12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Mark Pitt
 

The cleanest way to make up a pig tail for the 24 volt outlets is to buy a molded Italian Type L wire and cut off one end.  The last one I made up used this from ebay:

DELL 6FT 3-PRONG TYPE L 10A 220V ITALY CHILE AC POWER ADAPTER CORD CABLE 23322

that costs only $5.39 including shipping.  It cheaper than a Btinico Italian Type L plug and because the plug is molded to the wire, there is no issue with moisture.  The cigarette lighter plugs are easy to find everywhere,  I have purchased 12 volt extensions and cut off the male plug ends so both ends of the pig tail are molded and weatherproof.

Mark Pit
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Wickford, Rhode Island


Re: 12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Mark Pitt
 

I use the Anker PowerDrive 5 USB chargers with 5 ports and 24  volt capabiliiy (actually 12-30 volts).  They come with a 2 foot wire connecting the charger and cigarette plug so it reaches further.  I am not sure if there are sold any longer.  But Jelley Comb has a 6 port charger with the same input voltages on Amazon for $12.74. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0141Y4IRG/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?pd_rd_i=B0141Y4IRG&pd_rd_w=Gx6Q4&pf_rd_p=45a72588-80f7-4414-9851-786f6c16d42b&pd_rd_wg=qYZqq&pf_rd_r=K3H3Q1GQ5W51A7A3XPSC&pd_rd_r=18e903f5-e704-47de-a951-5131590be64a&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExNDVaR0E3T0tROEZRJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDYwOTU2M0s4ODUzUlVBMFpYSiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTE4Njg0M0lMR1UxTzZJV1RTTyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbCZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1

Mark

"Sabbatical III" SM419, Wickford, Rhode Island


On 10/3/2019 12:54 PM, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io wrote:
We found these, that work on 12 or 24 volt input (8-30).
The lowest price I saw was on eBay.
https://www.ravpower.com/p/ravpower-24w-4.8a-dual-usb-car-adapter.html

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

I often hang a light-sensitive David Megalight 6 feet above the cockpit while at anchor.  I provide the 12 volts required with this item from Amazon:

"24V to 12V Step Down Converter,60W 5A BUENNUS 24V DC to DC 12V Power Transformer Turn 24V Trucks Cigarette Lighter Male Plug to 12V Female Socket Adapter for 12V" ($25.99)

This step down converter has a 24V male cigarette lighter (banana) plug an one end and a 12 volt female cigarette lighter plug at the other.  You can cut off the male end and replace it with an Italian 3-pin Type L plug so it fits into the fan outlets and the outlets at the nav station and adjacent to the companionway stairs.  I just use a Italian 3-pin to cigarette lighter pig tail that I made up.  With this I can use 12 volt accessories anywhere in the boat where there is a 24 volt outlet.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Wickford, Rhode Island


Re: 12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Matt Salatino
 

We found these, that work on 12 or 24 volt input (8-30).
The lowest price I saw was on eBay.

On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

I often hang a light-sensitive David Megalight 6 feet above the cockpit while at anchor.  I provide the 12 volts required with this item from Amazon:

"24V to 12V Step Down Converter,60W 5A BUENNUS 24V DC to DC 12V Power Transformer Turn 24V Trucks Cigarette Lighter Male Plug to 12V Female Socket Adapter for 12V" ($25.99)

This step down converter has a 24V male cigarette lighter (banana) plug an one end and a 12 volt female cigarette lighter plug at the other.  You can cut off the male end and replace it with an Italian 3-pin Type L plug so it fits into the fan outlets and the outlets at the nav station and adjacent to the companionway stairs.  I just use a Italian 3-pin to cigarette lighter pig tail that I made up.  With this I can use 12 volt accessories anywhere in the boat where there is a 24 volt outlet.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Wickford, Rhode Island


Re: Companionway screen

Denise McGovern
 

Sound good.  Can you post a photo?
 
Denise McGovern
CARA, SM440, Chesapeake Bay


Companionway screen

Mark Pitt
 

The problem with inserting an insect screen into the vertical companionway slider is that the solid dodger impedes insertion and removal of a hull height screen.  I recently ordered and received a custom screen that has sufficient flex that it easily bends backwards to clear the dodger. The frame is made from "spring steel."  I ordered it from https://flexscreen.us/.  You need to send them your measurements (up to the 1/16th of an inch).  In my SM, the companionway is a bit narrower at the bottom than at the top.  So make an allowance for that.  The track for the slider is sufficiently deep that the screen still fits snugly. The screen is easy to remove from inside or outside the boat.  Its not cheap ($75) but a second screen is 20% off.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III", SM419, Wickford, Rhode Island, USA


Re: 12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Matt Salatino
 

Good idea!

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 3, 2019, at 12:11 PM, Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

I often hang a light-sensitive David Megalight 6 feet above the cockpit while at anchor.  I provide the 12 volts required with this item from Amazon:

"24V to 12V Step Down Converter,60W 5A BUENNUS 24V DC to DC 12V Power Transformer Turn 24V Trucks Cigarette Lighter Male Plug to 12V Female Socket Adapter for 12V" ($25.99)

This step down converter has a 24V male cigarette lighter (banana) plug an one end and a 12 volt female cigarette lighter plug at the other.  You can cut off the male end and replace it with an Italian 3-pin Type L plug so it fits into the fan outlets and the outlets at the nav station and adjacent to the companionway stairs.  I just use a Italian 3-pin to cigarette lighter pig tail that I made up.  With this I can use 12 volt accessories anywhere in the boat where there is a 24 volt outlet.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Wickford, Rhode Island


Re: 12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Mark Pitt
 

I often hang a light-sensitive David Megalight 6 feet above the cockpit while at anchor.  I provide the 12 volts required with this item from Amazon:

"24V to 12V Step Down Converter,60W 5A BUENNUS 24V DC to DC 12V Power Transformer Turn 24V Trucks Cigarette Lighter Male Plug to 12V Female Socket Adapter for 12V" ($25.99)

This step down converter has a 24V male cigarette lighter (banana) plug an one end and a 12 volt female cigarette lighter plug at the other.  You can cut off the male end and replace it with an Italian 3-pin Type L plug so it fits into the fan outlets and the outlets at the nav station and adjacent to the companionway stairs.  I just use a Italian 3-pin to cigarette lighter pig tail that I made up.  With this I can use 12 volt accessories anywhere in the boat where there is a 24 volt outlet.

Mark Pitt
"Sabbatical III" SM419, Wickford, Rhode Island


Re: Rudder seal

Paul Brown
 

Thanks Joerg 

I will purchase the same 

Regards Paul 


On 3 Oct 2019, at 5:44 pm, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Yes, Paul I have an alarm.  See pic. <912F20F9-0240-49B1-BFCA-A690DB64B35F.jpeg>


Re: Rudder seal

Joerg Esdorn
 

Yes, Paul I have an alarm.  See pic. 


Re: 12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Gary Wells
 

I had to run some 12v wiring on my SM.  It's not difficult but will require a bit of patience and a good work light :).
I would definitely recommend that you tap  power from a converter and not from the starter battery. 
At least in my experience it was a frustrating chase to find a current leak in the starter circuit due to an accessory failure that the previous owner had installed.  A dead starter battery is not a high problem, but it is a nuisance.
 At any rate, I would keep the starter circuit dedicated  and isolated to the one task. 
Just my €0.018275 (current exchange rate notwithstanding) worth :
Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Annapolis, MD


Re: 12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Thomas,

No there is not. I actually mounted one of those DC-DC (24-12 Volt) converters on the inside wall where the fresh water gauge sits on the other side (inside the locker below the ceiling). I put a small DC-distribution thing with fuses next to it and a negative busbar to supply all kind of stuff that I put there.
It is supplied via the big 24 Volt point that sits at the bottom of the locker.
Originally there was a DC-DC (24-24 Volt) converter there used to dim the cabin lights but that did not work anymore because of the LED light replacement. So I also replaced the dimmer button with a push button that now operates the engine-bay illumination so you can light up the engine-bay before entering it.
The feed cable form the engine-bay lights can be isolated from the other lights at the circuit-breaker switch for the "middle of the boat" lights.

Regards,

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: 12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Thomas,

I have few of these cheap converters on Elyse for uses like that....24V in and adjust for 12v out...easy !

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/DC-DC-Converter-Step-up-down-5V-12V-24V-Adjustable-Voltage-Power-Supply-Module-/112425670929

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Gearbox for outhaulAmel

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 


On 03 October 2019 at 19:48 Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi,

Salt is all pervasive. It is gritty stuff. If you are minimal sailing with regular rainfall it is not usually too much of a problem. However major passages in the tropics puts gritty salt every where. Including the furler spinners at the top of the sails. Thorough washing with fresh water of all blocks travelers and cars and dropping all sails to wash out  the spinners will save a lot of grief. After the wash and allowing time to dry spray silicone. 

You may be amazed at the results. This includes the mizzen furler gearbox.

Danny

Sm 299

Ocean Pearl

On 03 October 2019 at 15:53 Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Thanks Thomas 

 

On 3 Oct 2019, at 2:48 am, Sv Garulfo < svgarulfo@...> wrote:

Paul, 
You may want to check the block at the end of the boom too, mine and others’ were a bit seized. We cleaned it up and also ordered a replacement from Amel, as it seems to be specially adapted from the stock items. 


Best,
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Rangiroa, French Polynesia 

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 06:20, Paul Brown < feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Thank you Olivier, I will slacken off a little.

I was wondering if this was causing my slow blow boom fuse to open earlier than it should, as it seems to open often 

Regards Paul 

 

On 2 Oct 2019, at 6:13 pm, Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io < atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:

Hello Paul,

originally, this line is rather tight, indeed as Bill says, in order to prevent slipage. But with time, UV and salt, this Vectran-core line tends to shrink and gets tighter and tighter which puts more load than necessary on the motor itself. You should loosen a bit the small line tackle at one end of the traveller's line.

Olivier

 

 


 


 


 


Re: Gearbox for outhaulAmel

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi,

Salt is all pervasive. It is gritty stuff. If you are minimal sailing with regular rainfall it is not usually too much of a problem. However major passages in the tropics puts gritty salt every where. Including the furler spinners at the top of the sails. Thorough washing with fresh water of all blocks travelers and cars and dropping all sails to wash out  the spinners will save a lot of grief. After the wash and allowing time to dry spray silicone. 

You may becamazed at the results. Thiscincludescthe 

On 03 October 2019 at 15:53 Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Thanks Thomas 

 

On 3 Oct 2019, at 2:48 am, Sv Garulfo < svgarulfo@...> wrote:

Paul, 
You may want to check the block at the end of the boom too, mine and others’ were a bit seized. We cleaned it up and also ordered a replacement from Amel, as it seems to be specially adapted from the stock items. 


Best,
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Rangiroa, French Polynesia 

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 06:20, Paul Brown < feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Thank you Olivier, I will slacken off a little.

I was wondering if this was causing my slow blow boom fuse to open earlier than it should, as it seems to open often 

Regards Paul 

 

On 2 Oct 2019, at 6:13 pm, Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io < atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:

Hello Paul,

originally, this line is rather tight, indeed as Bill says, in order to prevent slipage. But with time, UV and salt, this Vectran-core line tends to shrink and gets tighter and tighter which puts more load than necessary on the motor itself. You should loosen a bit the small line tackle at one end of the traveller's line.

Olivier

 

 


 


 


Re: Gearbox for outhaulAmel

Paul Brown
 

Thanks Thomas 


On 3 Oct 2019, at 2:48 am, Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:

Paul, 
You may want to check the block at the end of the boom too, mine and others’ were a bit seized. We cleaned it up and also ordered a replacement from Amel, as it seems to be specially adapted from the stock items. 


Best,
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Rangiroa, French Polynesia 

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 06:20, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Thank you Olivier, I will slacken off a little.

I was wondering if this was causing my slow blow boom fuse to open earlier than it should, as it seems to open often 

Regards Paul 


On 2 Oct 2019, at 6:13 pm, Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io <atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:

Hello Paul,

originally, this line is rather tight, indeed as Bill says, in order to prevent slipage. But with time, UV and salt, this Vectran-core line tends to shrink and gets tighter and tighter which puts more load than necessary on the motor itself. You should loosen a bit the small line tackle at one end of the traveller's line.

Olivier


Re: Gearbox for outhaulAmel

Sv Garulfo
 

Paul, 
You may want to check the block at the end of the boom too, mine and others’ were a bit seized. We cleaned it up and also ordered a replacement from Amel, as it seems to be specially adapted from the stock items. 


Best,
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Rangiroa, French Polynesia 

On Wed, 2 Oct 2019 at 06:20, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Thank you Olivier, I will slacken off a little.

I was wondering if this was causing my slow blow boom fuse to open earlier than it should, as it seems to open often 

Regards Paul 


On 2 Oct 2019, at 6:13 pm, Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io <atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:

Hello Paul,

originally, this line is rather tight, indeed as Bill says, in order to prevent slipage. But with time, UV and salt, this Vectran-core line tends to shrink and gets tighter and tighter which puts more load than necessary on the motor itself. You should loosen a bit the small line tackle at one end of the traveller's line.

Olivier


Re: Dyneema loop

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Thomas;

We managed to take the blocks apart. It does take some patience and work since the years of salt and dust have the parts fused together fairly well.

Once apart the new loops fit right in. Take your time and you will get them apart.

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

On Oct 2, 2019, at 9:12 PM, Sv Garulfo via Groups.Io <svgarulfo@...> wrote:

Hi Mohammad,

I always wondered how one would fit those loops on the blocks if they are already closed? Some blocks look like they can be taken apart (and yet it would still be a tight fit), and others not so. 

Any hindsight?


Best,
Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Rangiroa, French Polynesia 

On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 at 20:38, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:
Hi Barry;

Glad to hear your hail out went as planned. On Kokomo, all blocks are attached to booms and masts with soft shackles. Attached please find a picture of one of them that we later replaced. We have 2 different lengths and about 7 total (not sure of the exact count because we are currently in the Montenegrin Mountains and not on board to give you an exact count).

Can you send me a list of your contacts and good contractors in Monastir? We may haul out in Tunisia in about a couple of years.

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Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty 
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54#099

On Jul 25, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Barry Connor via Groups.Io <connor_barry@...> wrote:

Hi Mohammad,

Hope your sailing is going well, we are now in Sardinia. Stopping at Antibes (Dessalator), Hyeres (Amel parts) soon. Had a very successful haul out in Monastir,  cleaned and checked the 2 year old copper coat job we did there and it is doing exactly as it should. Changed the C-drive seals and finally fitted the new rope cutter that I got from Alexandre. 
I do not have any Dyneema loops on any of my rigging. Can you send me a photo of where you use these?  Would be great if these can replace all my metal shackles. 

Best regards

Barry and Penny
"SV Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Sardinia

On Wednesday, July 24, 2019, 10:40:14 PM GMT+1, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:


Hi Wolfgang;

We just ordered about 7 of the loops from Amel.

Great quality dyneema with cover and perfect fit. I think it’s a good idea to help Amel when we can also. Happy with the purchase and quick shipment.

Respectfully;


Mohammad & Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099



On Jul 24, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io <webercardio@...> wrote:

Hello to the group,
I would like to renew the dyneema loops of the rigg.Before order at Amel, I would ask for any recommendations.
Our Amel is from 2011 , 20.000 sm.
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162 (Annapolis) back on boat 2nd of August


12V supply near 24V panel on Amel 54

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

Before I get onto a wild goose chase, does anyone know if there is a 12V power supply in the cabinet behind the 24V panel or nearby, and, if yes, where it comes from (starter battery or 24/12 converters)?

I’m considering adding a light sensitive switch for the anchor/nav lights and the electronic I’ve got requires a 12V/0.1A power supply. 

Cheers,

Thomas 
GARULFO 
A54-122
Rangiroa, French Polynesia