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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica
 

Hello,

We got 1 fridge and freezer in our boat, we gave the freezer in the pantry a complete refit.

1. Step is to refit AMEL freezer insulations. We removed the complete old imsulation. Sorry to say but it was poorly build in terms of condens water block, open sidecuts at the old foam boards so the foam was soaked with condens. Beside tha this foam is only max 60mm what is not enough for tropics. Because of limited space we choose most efficient isolation boards.
It needs to remove the complete freezer. The only way to do so was to enter from the top and chop the wooden boards, also soaked with water and mould. Wood is not a propper insulation for freezers.
2. Step ist to install a condenswater block membrane.
3. Step install install sandwich vacum boards. These boards got factor 5 of insulation against standard closed cell foam. So with 6cm it eaquals 20 to 24 cm foam.
4. We reused the original stainless inside case. The hole process needs extremly carefull work that there is not the tinies hole left for condens water to enter. What you get is insulated like a thermos bottle.

With this upgrade of freezer the compressor stops 24h working and with that the cooling pump. But we did not touch the fridge. With that we got on times of freezer of 2h per day and fridge of 3h per day. The new controller cares that both units will work at the same time when ever possible. Example: so the cool pump wont run first for the fridge and 5 mins later when the freezer starts it will rum again. The "intelligent"
Controler cares that operating times are bundled.
We got these operating times with 30 degrees outside temperatures.

I did not change the pump, I changed the pump motor and motor controller to brushless. My pumps never failed it was always the brushed motor and bearings that wore out.

With these steps the cooling system works efficient.

I will look for the brands i used later and post it.

Oliver
A54#39
Portugal



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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump
From: Scott SV Tengah
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
CC:


Oliver,

Could you tell us more about upgrading/replacing the freezer insulation? I assume you mean the one under the settee? 

Did you scrape off all the old insulation and replace? What model vacuum boards did you use? I, too, notice that my freezer compressor is running 24h.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Canvas work in Eastern Med

Davi Rozgonyi
 
Edited

You could look at Southwest Sails in Turkey. The PO of our SM had a full enclosure made there 6 or more years ago, still looks and works beautifully. You could call it a winter enclosure in that every gap and opening is battened down, but all of it rolls up or (unzips in panels if you prefer) to make it into more or less a bimini. Sailing in 30 knots of wind middle of Feb along corsica we were playing canasta in sweatpants at the table. Love it.... Bonus of course they already have the plans for the SM. In our case, it also involved making the headroom as tall as possible beneath the boom, so maybe a 6' person can stand fully upright. 

www.southwestsails.com.tr


Re: Bow thruster seals

eric freedman
 

Hi Jose,

What is your email address?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2019 1:32 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow thruster seals

 

Danny,
I understand very well how the system SHOULD work and, if everything is new, the seals should work as designed.  Unfortunately, wear can change the system and, in my case nothing worked to stop the leak, including several adjustments of cable tension, and increasing compression by the pin.  As I said in my previous e-mails, I believe the problem occurs because the wear of the surfaces between the hull and the thruster that guide its motion result in a misalignment between the trunk and the seal, causing a lateral force on the lip seal which makes it incompetent allowing water intake.  The misalignment also results in the sealing surfaces between the donut seals and the hull are no longer parallel affecting its sealing action.   Following Amel instructions and wasting seals, money and time I realized that the problem could be corrected by designing a seal that would be made of a softer material and have lips that could maintain the seal in the presence of misalignment.   That solved the problem 3 years ago and I have had a dry bilge ever since.!!
In my design, I used two seals in series: a silicone wiper below and a silicone u-cup on top. This results in a slight protrusion of the seal above the horizontal fiberglass surface, as it can be seen in the pix I sent before.    I used silicone glue to secure the seals in place and was planning to add washers to secure them to the fiberglass, but after several months of procrastination, I realized that the glue was sufficient to keep the seals in place.  3 years later, using the thruster twice per week, almost every week during 6 months each summer, including a Marion to Bermuda race the seals are still working as new.  Since I add silicone grease to the trunk every year and, given the number of times (~50/year) that I use the thruster,   I am expecting that they will last a very long time.  So far I have serviced the thruster every year but have decided not to change any of the seals, including the donut seals, which looked in excellent condition.

I just received the quote from the seal manufacturer and it is as follows:

10 pcs. Silicone wiper $ 31.65ea.

10 pcs. Silicone u-cup  $ 32.50ea.


This it will be about $65 per set plus shipment and It will take  14-17 business days to ship from the order

so far I have received requests from:

Bob Ross, sv Nomad, Trinidad (1 set) 
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece (?sets)
Chuck_Kim_Joy (? sets)

Steve Davis Aloha SM72  Ko Olina, Hawaii (? sets)
Mark, Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 (? sets)
Dan Taylor (2 sets)

Gerald Bassin Jetlag, SM113 (2 sets)

Since I want to place the order this week I will appreciate if each of you can e-mail me directly with your e-mail, the number of sets you want and the address two where it should be shipped.   
We still need to figure out the cost of shipping to each one of you and how you will transfer me the money, but given that is something we can figure out later.


Jose 
Ipanema SM2k 278, Boston


Re: Color number for SM2K Redline

Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

Safe Travels Colin.   We’d be heading to NC today but we have Chara on the market and there is supposed to be someone coming to look at this weekend.

Bob

On Sep 24, 2019, at 11:15 AM, islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Hey Bob

So sorry we missed you guys. We are just reversing out and noticed your email. The other two Amels are still here tonight, you should all get together.

Best regards
Colin & Lauren Streeter

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 5:33 AM Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...> wrote:
There is also a Maranu at Vuda Marina...S/V Chara.  Glad to see si many Amelia here.

Bob

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 PM, islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Fantastic to finally meet today Danny, after 8 years of chatting on this forum! What a pleasure to get the two Pacific Amels (Island Pearl II and Ocean Pearl) together at last, and also Amel Ying Yang too. Thanks for making such an effort to getting here in Fiji, and for joining us all for a fun night at the Vuda Marina Restaurant.

We clear out with Fiji Customs in the morning, and will be at sea for the next 4 days sailing to the Loyalty Islands in New Caledonia.

Best regards
Colin & Lauren Streeter


On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 6:59 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Colin. We are in Sawini Bay tonight, in Vuda Marina tomorrow.

The Pearls may meet at last.

Danny

Sm 299

Ocean Pearl

On 22 September 2019 at 17:44 islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill

We have the correct official sample of   AwlGrip Desert Sand here at Vuda Point. As you know the painters in Durban got the "Desert Sand" colour wrong on our new hull side stripe when we lifted the waterline in South Africa. Now that we have new sails to put up (with the new Amel trim colour) we will re-paint the hull side stripe with the correct  AwlGrip Desert Sand paint at the end of our circumnavigation in Australia before we sell.

On a different issue - the "Amel Brown trim" - after 8 years of careful ownership we eventually got used to (and now actually like) the blue floors, and bright colourful curtains, but  we could never quite come to terms with the less than appealing "Brown" which Amel chose for side trim rails on all Super Maramu's! Because of this, we first tried a white trim (whilst in Thailand), as Amel did on the last 10 Amel 54's, but whilst that actually looks very nice on the 54, it never looked quite right on the Supermaramu against the Amel off-white gelcoat. We had seen one nice looking Supermaramu with white trim, but later noticed that they had actually "screwed in" a Stainless Steel bead/rod all the way along inside the white trim areas, and we were certainly not prepared to do this.

Based on this, whilst waiting for weather in Durban, we tried painting the brown trim with an "incorrectly mixed/coloured" Desert Sand. It looks barely OK, ...but not great...... and so we now wonder if even the correct Desert Sand colour would look any better on the side trim than the dreaded brown? 

The original Amel "Red Line" series trim colour was never to our liking either, almost too sharp a colour we felt, ... but we thought it worth having another look at the correct colour which Amel chose.

Failing all, and since we will soon be selling anyway, we may well simply go back to the original brown, but perhaps a shade or two lighter? Has anyone out there repainted this trim in a colour which they feel is an enhancement on the original Amel brown?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332
Vuda Marina, Fiji Islands ... till Tuesday then off to Loyalty Islands in New Caledonia



On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:44 AM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
You might want to think about AwlGrip Desert Sand, which is the new trim color for Amels since the introduction of the 55.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
 
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
     
 


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 < colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi All

We would also be interested to get the correct paint number for the trim on the Amel Redline models?

Is there anyone out there that has this information, please?

Kindest regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Vuda Point Marina, Fiji Islands

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:40 AM Olaf Bauer < olaf.bauer@...> wrote:
Hello AMELians,

could someone provide the color numbers for a SM2K Redline for the white hull, the red water line and the red stripes at the top of the hull at the side.

Thanks so much :-)

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently inTrinidad

 

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

 

 

 

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Color number for SM2K Redline

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hey Bob

So sorry we missed you guys. We are just reversing out and noticed your email. The other two Amels are still here tonight, you should all get together.

Best regards
Colin & Lauren Streeter


On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 5:33 AM Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...> wrote:
There is also a Maranu at Vuda Marina...S/V Chara.  Glad to see si many Amelia here.

Bob

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 PM, islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Fantastic to finally meet today Danny, after 8 years of chatting on this forum! What a pleasure to get the two Pacific Amels (Island Pearl II and Ocean Pearl) together at last, and also Amel Ying Yang too. Thanks for making such an effort to getting here in Fiji, and for joining us all for a fun night at the Vuda Marina Restaurant.

We clear out with Fiji Customs in the morning, and will be at sea for the next 4 days sailing to the Loyalty Islands in New Caledonia.

Best regards
Colin & Lauren Streeter


On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 6:59 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Colin. We are in Sawini Bay tonight, in Vuda Marina tomorrow.

The Pearls may meet at last.

Danny

Sm 299

Ocean Pearl

On 22 September 2019 at 17:44 islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill

We have the correct official sample of   AwlGrip Desert Sand here at Vuda Point. As you know the painters in Durban got the "Desert Sand" colour wrong on our new hull side stripe when we lifted the waterline in South Africa. Now that we have new sails to put up (with the new Amel trim colour) we will re-paint the hull side stripe with the correct  AwlGrip Desert Sand paint at the end of our circumnavigation in Australia before we sell.

On a different issue - the "Amel Brown trim" - after 8 years of careful ownership we eventually got used to (and now actually like) the blue floors, and bright colourful curtains, but  we could never quite come to terms with the less than appealing "Brown" which Amel chose for side trim rails on all Super Maramu's! Because of this, we first tried a white trim (whilst in Thailand), as Amel did on the last 10 Amel 54's, but whilst that actually looks very nice on the 54, it never looked quite right on the Supermaramu against the Amel off-white gelcoat. We had seen one nice looking Supermaramu with white trim, but later noticed that they had actually "screwed in" a Stainless Steel bead/rod all the way along inside the white trim areas, and we were certainly not prepared to do this.

Based on this, whilst waiting for weather in Durban, we tried painting the brown trim with an "incorrectly mixed/coloured" Desert Sand. It looks barely OK, ...but not great...... and so we now wonder if even the correct Desert Sand colour would look any better on the side trim than the dreaded brown? 

The original Amel "Red Line" series trim colour was never to our liking either, almost too sharp a colour we felt, ... but we thought it worth having another look at the correct colour which Amel chose.

Failing all, and since we will soon be selling anyway, we may well simply go back to the original brown, but perhaps a shade or two lighter? Has anyone out there repainted this trim in a colour which they feel is an enhancement on the original Amel brown?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332
Vuda Marina, Fiji Islands ... till Tuesday then off to Loyalty Islands in New Caledonia



On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:44 AM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
You might want to think about AwlGrip Desert Sand, which is the new trim color for Amels since the introduction of the 55.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
 
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
     
 


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 < colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi All

We would also be interested to get the correct paint number for the trim on the Amel Redline models?

Is there anyone out there that has this information, please?

Kindest regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Vuda Point Marina, Fiji Islands

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:40 AM Olaf Bauer < olaf.bauer@...> wrote:
Hello AMELians,

could someone provide the color numbers for a SM2K Redline for the white hull, the red water line and the red stripes at the top of the hull at the side.

Thanks so much :-)

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently inTrinidad

 

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

 

 

 

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Canvas work in Eastern Med

Paul Brown
 

Raif was the man that I negotiated with and had manage my project, he was so very professional and precise, I recommend him highly and also is one of the best contractors Ive used, he has lots of experience and managed large refits on a wide range of yachts up to super yachts 

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17


On 23 Sep 2019, at 7:08 pm, rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@...> wrote:

Hi Nick,
I second the recommendation on Lantana.  The shop in Marmaris is run by Naile +90 532 511 67 27 . Her brother, Raif Sağlam +382 63 443 205 is now based in Tivat, Montenegro which is closer to where you are.  We had him do canvas work when we were in Göcek, Turkey and then had him do a few follow-up projects when we later "wintered" (Jan 22-April 10) in Porto Montenegro in Tivat.  His full service shop is a 2 minute walk from the Marina.  Both Raif and Naile are readily available on WhatsApp which is good for photos, etc.  They use top of the line fabrics, mesh and window materials and have good staff that have stayed with them.  Hands down Raif was the single best contractor we used in 6 years of cruising the European Atlantic and the Med. 
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM 429


Re: Color number for SM2K Redline

Bob Sarff <bob.sarff@...>
 

There is also a Maranu at Vuda Marina...S/V Chara.  Glad to see si many Amelia here.

Bob

On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:32 PM, islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Fantastic to finally meet today Danny, after 8 years of chatting on this forum! What a pleasure to get the two Pacific Amels (Island Pearl II and Ocean Pearl) together at last, and also Amel Ying Yang too. Thanks for making such an effort to getting here in Fiji, and for joining us all for a fun night at the Vuda Marina Restaurant.

We clear out with Fiji Customs in the morning, and will be at sea for the next 4 days sailing to the Loyalty Islands in New Caledonia.

Best regards
Colin & Lauren Streeter


On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 6:59 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Colin. We are in Sawini Bay tonight, in Vuda Marina tomorrow.

The Pearls may meet at last.

Danny

Sm 299

Ocean Pearl

On 22 September 2019 at 17:44 islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill

We have the correct official sample of   AwlGrip Desert Sand here at Vuda Point. As you know the painters in Durban got the "Desert Sand" colour wrong on our new hull side stripe when we lifted the waterline in South Africa. Now that we have new sails to put up (with the new Amel trim colour) we will re-paint the hull side stripe with the correct  AwlGrip Desert Sand paint at the end of our circumnavigation in Australia before we sell.

On a different issue - the "Amel Brown trim" - after 8 years of careful ownership we eventually got used to (and now actually like) the blue floors, and bright colourful curtains, but  we could never quite come to terms with the less than appealing "Brown" which Amel chose for side trim rails on all Super Maramu's! Because of this, we first tried a white trim (whilst in Thailand), as Amel did on the last 10 Amel 54's, but whilst that actually looks very nice on the 54, it never looked quite right on the Supermaramu against the Amel off-white gelcoat. We had seen one nice looking Supermaramu with white trim, but later noticed that they had actually "screwed in" a Stainless Steel bead/rod all the way along inside the white trim areas, and we were certainly not prepared to do this.

Based on this, whilst waiting for weather in Durban, we tried painting the brown trim with an "incorrectly mixed/coloured" Desert Sand. It looks barely OK, ...but not great...... and so we now wonder if even the correct Desert Sand colour would look any better on the side trim than the dreaded brown? 

The original Amel "Red Line" series trim colour was never to our liking either, almost too sharp a colour we felt, ... but we thought it worth having another look at the correct colour which Amel chose.

Failing all, and since we will soon be selling anyway, we may well simply go back to the original brown, but perhaps a shade or two lighter? Has anyone out there repainted this trim in a colour which they feel is an enhancement on the original Amel brown?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332
Vuda Marina, Fiji Islands ... till Tuesday then off to Loyalty Islands in New Caledonia



On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:44 AM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
You might want to think about AwlGrip Desert Sand, which is the new trim color for Amels since the introduction of the 55.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
 
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
     
 


On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 < colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi All

We would also be interested to get the correct paint number for the trim on the Amel Redline models?

Is there anyone out there that has this information, please?

Kindest regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Vuda Point Marina, Fiji Islands

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:40 AM Olaf Bauer < olaf.bauer@...> wrote:
Hello AMELians,

could someone provide the color numbers for a SM2K Redline for the white hull, the red water line and the red stripes at the top of the hull at the side.

Thanks so much :-)

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently inTrinidad

 

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

 

 

 

 



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Canvas work in Eastern Med

rossirossix4
 

Hi Nick,
I second the recommendation on Lantana.  The shop in Marmaris is run by Naile +90 532 511 67 27 . Her brother, Raif Sağlam +382 63 443 205 is now based in Tivat, Montenegro which is closer to where you are.  We had him do canvas work when we were in Göcek, Turkey and then had him do a few follow-up projects when we later "wintered" (Jan 22-April 10) in Porto Montenegro in Tivat.  His full service shop is a 2 minute walk from the Marina.  Both Raif and Naile are readily available on WhatsApp which is good for photos, etc.  They use top of the line fabrics, mesh and window materials and have good staff that have stayed with them.  Hands down Raif was the single best contractor we used in 6 years of cruising the European Atlantic and the Med. 
Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI SM 429


Re: Berth in Lisbon area

Joerg Esdorn
 

Just got notice that Cascais has room for Kincsem.  Many thanks for everyone’s advice.  Maybe Jose you did something to make this happen?  Many thanks!!  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem 


Gennaker + furler for sale

Scott SV Tengah
 

Hi all,

We are selling our Deme Voiles gennaker (100 square meters) and Facnor FX4500 furler. It's in good shape and has only a few small stains which can probably be removed. It's a great sail and the only reason we're selling is that the previous owner also included a laminate code zero, which covers roughly the same range as the gennaker. 

Attached are some photos. The sail on the right with the Amel logo is the gennaker. I can take more pics of it next time we have suitable conditions, if you'd like. Add a halyard and you have everything you need to fly the gennaker. In sub 10 knot true winds, it can make the difference between sailing and motoring. At around 10 knot true, we see an additional knot or two SOG vs. using our Genoa.

The furler is $3000 new and the gennaker is a little over $6000.

The whole package is for sale for $4000, less than half the original price. I'm on the US East Coast now, will be going to the Annapolis boat show in a few weeks and then down to the Eastern Caribbean, including Martinique in mid November. Of course, I could ship, too.

Thanks!
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Furuno “Loss of GPS”/DOP Error alarm and AIS help

Scott SV Tengah
 

We had a similar problem with our GP-150. The errors showed up right as we left Las Palmas to cross the pond!

I called Furuno and they suggested that we check all of the connections as the head unit itself is not likely to be the problem given our symptoms. 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?

Scott SV Tengah
 

I found another spare part in my boat that I won't need, but may be of use to someone:

Onan 149-2513

It's a fuel filter for the following models: ONAN  HDKCC HDKAH HDKAJ HDKAK HDKAU HDKAT HDKAV

Again, free if you want to grab it at the boat show.
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Scott SV Tengah
 

Oliver,

Could you tell us more about upgrading/replacing the freezer insulation? I assume you mean the one under the settee? 

Did you scrape off all the old insulation and replace? What model vacuum boards did you use? I, too, notice that my freezer compressor is running 24h.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Scott SV Tengah
 

I just went through this same saga. I purchased what I though were the 512A pumps, which Frigoboat actually rebrands and also sells as their own. Penguin Refrigeration UK advertised those on their website so I bought 4 of them, knowing that with two fridges and a third freezer, the pump is running nearly constantly.

They sent me the 4105-343 which they promised is as good or better. It lasted about 6 months. Thankfully we were aboard, otherwise we would have lost a lot of food! 

I contacted the director of sales at March and he said that their pumps would NOT be suitable for our application. Keep in mind that our refrigeration system was originally plumbed to circulate from the freshwater tank, so the March pump was unable to self-prime and consequently wouldn't work. Might be different with a saltwater cooling setup.

Lately I purchased the Marco UP-2P 24v pump and will run it as a 12v pump, just like the original Frigoboat. The specs seem similar, perhaps with less current draw. They use a teflon impeller gear, so that should be more durable than the diaphragm on the Flojet. Bad news is that it's got brushes and Marco expects 2500-3000 hours from it. The upside is that I can quickly and cheaply replace the seals and brushes. I will install it after the second Frigoboat pump dies and will let everyone know if it works well and lasts longer than 6 months..

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

 

Oliver, 

Which make and model of pump did you replace OEM with?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 3:57 AM Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica <oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote:
Hello guys!

We replaced the pump motor by an brushless motor. We had similar lifespan and shorter. Additional the original pump wasted lots of energy in wear.
We also changed the insulation of the freezer to modern vacum boards. Before the freezer compressor was 24 h on, due to poor insulatin. Now we got up to 1.5 h a day to keep it cool.
We also changed the fridge and freezer temperature controll to microcontroller.

Was a hell of a work.

Oliver from Vela Nautica
AMEL54 #39
Portugal


Sent from my Huawei Mobile


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 fridge circulation pump
From: Sv Garulfo
To: Yahoo Group Amel
CC:


Hello

We have flojet 32601 -0092 Quad series pump r4105512a. ( 12v, 1.5 A max, 1.6 gpm 6.1 lpm, 50 psi 3.4 max) installed onboard as circulation pump for fridges/freezer.

They are relatively easy to source.
We have previously replaced ours and have recently put the spare in service.
They seem to run for about 14months before the brushes wear out (more precisely, the springs on the brushes hit the backstops, brushes still having plenty of material). The pump can be dismantled and refurbished.
* For those running the same model, have you noticed similar lifespan?
* Has anyone installed an alternative model for longer service?
We weren’t expecting to have to replace them this often, and the brushes don’t seem to be available from the vendor for repair.
This may have already been addressed in a previous topic but we couldn’t locate the thread.

Thanks!

Best,


Thomas & Soraya
GARULFO
A54-122
Rangiroa, French Polynesia

www.instagram.com/svgarulfo





Re: A54 fridge circulation pump

Arno Luijten
 

Hi S&T,

Funny you mention this now. I have been using the Flojet pumps as recommended/supplied by Frigoboat. Those are actually 24 volt versions running on 12 Volt to lower the Amp-draw and extend the life span.
The first is true well enough but the second is not. We got 9 months of life out of a brand new pump. Completely worn out. Both the brushes and the commutator no longer serviceable.

So much for continuous duty for Flojet pumps. I have just ordered a March pump. This is a brushless pump with magnetic impeller coupling, so no shaft seal as well. It is a bit of a gamble as this pump is a volume-based pump and not a pressure-based pump like the Flojet.
But it is very much designed for continuous duty. As this is a centrifugal pump it is not self-priming but that is no problem given the location in the boat. The model is 893-11. This is a 12 volt version with open-air cooling and voltage protection. There is a 893-09 as well but model has no voltage protection and can supplied with two different motors of which only one is suitable. So the -11 is to be preferred.
So hopefully by end of November I will know if the pump is capable of moving enough water through the system to make three cooling compressors happy. Based on the displaced volume figures it should be no problem, but the hose/compressor circuit is quite long so the total resistance can be a problem. I paid approx US $250 for the pump, incl. shipping. Thanks to Alex Ramseyer (also on our forum) it will be delivered at my doorstep in some time (Thanks again Alex!).

You can find the pump here: http://www.marchpump.com/pumps/series-893/893-11/

Regards,
Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
St. Maarten


Re: Furuno “Loss of GPS”/DOP Error alarm and AIS help

tony wells
 

Thanks Dean

That’s helpful in developing my understanding, as you say.

In fact it turned out the AIS issue was compounded by an intermittent power drop out with the router which we identified on passage to Sicily.

The “No GPS” and DOP alarms are still sounding intermittently. I can’t see how there’s any correlation but it seems more prevalent when closer to land?! There were no alarms when 100Nm offshore!

Thanks again,

Tony
Balthazar A54 #102, Syracuse, Sicily

On 20 Sep 2019, at 13:33, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:

Hi Tony,
The Navnet3D system has a failover action with GPS that I’ve observed, which may be relevant to your problem.

Typically there is more than one GPS data source available in a system. In my case it was the FA50 AIS and the GP150. The source to be used is selected as you step through the system installation process. In my case it was selected to be the GP150.
If during normal operation, the source of GPS fails then the system automatically changes to the other GPS source. In my case, the GP150 failed and the system started to use the FA50 AIS as the source of GPS. I knew nothing about the change, as the system just did it automatically.
It took some time before I noticed the GP150 had actually failed and was not supplying GPS data anymore.

This does not help with the question of why your GP150 is faulty, but may help in your understanding of what has happened in your system.

Furuno would not repair my GP150 so I bought a a couple of inexpensive GPS antennas with NMEA outputs and located them behind the instrument table. They are now my (dual redundant) primary source of GPS for the system.

Good luck!
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154




Re: Color number for SM2K Redline

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Fantastic to finally meet today Danny, after 8 years of chatting on this forum! What a pleasure to get the two Pacific Amels (Island Pearl II and Ocean Pearl) together at last, and also Amel Ying Yang too. Thanks for making such an effort to getting here in Fiji, and for joining us all for a fun night at the Vuda Marina Restaurant.

We clear out with Fiji Customs in the morning, and will be at sea for the next 4 days sailing to the Loyalty Islands in New Caledonia.

Best regards
Colin & Lauren Streeter


On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 6:59 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Colin. We are in Sawini Bay tonight, in Vuda Marina tomorrow.

The Pearls may meet at last.

Danny

Sm 299

Ocean Pearl

On 22 September 2019 at 17:44 islandpearl2_sm2k332 <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill

We have the correct official sample of   AwlGrip Desert Sand here at Vuda Point. As you know the painters in Durban got the "Desert Sand" colour wrong on our new hull side stripe when we lifted the waterline in South Africa. Now that we have new sails to put up (with the new Amel trim colour) we will re-paint the hull side stripe with the correct  AwlGrip Desert Sand paint at the end of our circumnavigation in Australia before we sell.

On a different issue - the "Amel Brown trim" - after 8 years of careful ownership we eventually got used to (and now actually like) the blue floors, and bright colourful curtains, but  we could never quite come to terms with the less than appealing "Brown" which Amel chose for side trim rails on all Super Maramu's! Because of this, we first tried a white trim (whilst in Thailand), as Amel did on the last 10 Amel 54's, but whilst that actually looks very nice on the 54, it never looked quite right on the Supermaramu against the Amel off-white gelcoat. We had seen one nice looking Supermaramu with white trim, but later noticed that they had actually "screwed in" a Stainless Steel bead/rod all the way along inside the white trim areas, and we were certainly not prepared to do this.

Based on this, whilst waiting for weather in Durban, we tried painting the brown trim with an "incorrectly mixed/coloured" Desert Sand. It looks barely OK, ...but not great...... and so we now wonder if even the correct Desert Sand colour would look any better on the side trim than the dreaded brown? 

The original Amel "Red Line" series trim colour was never to our liking either, almost too sharp a colour we felt, ... but we thought it worth having another look at the correct colour which Amel chose.

Failing all, and since we will soon be selling anyway, we may well simply go back to the original brown, but perhaps a shade or two lighter? Has anyone out there repainted this trim in a colour which they feel is an enhancement on the original Amel brown?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
SV Island Pearl II, sm #332
Vuda Marina, Fiji Islands ... till Tuesday then off to Loyalty Islands in New Caledonia



On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 3:44 AM CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:
You might want to think about AwlGrip Desert Sand, which is the new trim color for Amels since the introduction of the 55.

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On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 12:14 AM islandpearl2_sm2k332 < colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
Hi All

We would also be interested to get the correct paint number for the trim on the Amel Redline models?

Is there anyone out there that has this information, please?

Kindest regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Vuda Point Marina, Fiji Islands

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:40 AM Olaf Bauer < olaf.bauer@...> wrote:
Hello AMELians,

could someone provide the color numbers for a SM2K Redline for the white hull, the red water line and the red stripes at the top of the hull at the side.

Thanks so much :-)

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently inTrinidad

 

 



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Re: Canvas work in Eastern Med

Paul Brown
 

I recommend you check price and precise material, time lines, completion dates and supervise the work, they can be good but there has been many bad experiences.

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17


On 23 Sep 2019, at 11:53 am, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Thanks guys, very useful information. Looks like Marmaris is the place to go.

Nick
On 21 Sep 2019, at 18:41, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hello Nick, I had a refit completed to a catamaran 60 foot by Lantana Canvas family in Marmaris and Gocek in 2017, they did 16,000 euros of work from couches, covers, bedding and awnings etc, I was more than happy with their work and handling of the project that we both work together on and their prices were very acceptable following negotiations and the best I have found in the eastern med and perhaps the western med also

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17


On 21 Sep 2019, at 4:08 pm, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Hello fellow Amel owners,

I am thinking of getting some upholstery and canvas work done for Amelia. Specifically I want to replace the saloon cushions and covers. The foam itself is beginning to deteriorate and the covers are pretty tatty.
So that would be a case of replacing like for like.

In addition I would like to have a winter cockpit enclosure made. I have looked at the NV website and their design, it looks good but is pretty expensive.

Next year we will be sailing over to Turkey and the Dodecanese. I was thinking that I might get a good job done in Turkey for a reasonable price. Not to mention the VAT aspect of ordering from NV in France.

I am looking for recommendations for, I guess, Turkey.???? 

Kind regards

Nick

S/Y Amelia AML 54-019

 Kefalonia for now.


Re: Canvas work in Eastern Med

ngtnewington Newington
 

Thanks guys, very useful information. Looks like Marmaris is the place to go.

Nick

On 21 Sep 2019, at 18:41, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hello Nick, I had a refit completed to a catamaran 60 foot by Lantana Canvas family in Marmaris and Gocek in 2017, they did 16,000 euros of work from couches, covers, bedding and awnings etc, I was more than happy with their work and handling of the project that we both work together on and their prices were very acceptable following negotiations and the best I have found in the eastern med and perhaps the western med also

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17


On 21 Sep 2019, at 4:08 pm, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Hello fellow Amel owners,

I am thinking of getting some upholstery and canvas work done for Amelia. Specifically I want to replace the saloon cushions and covers. The foam itself is beginning to deteriorate and the covers are pretty tatty.
So that would be a case of replacing like for like.

In addition I would like to have a winter cockpit enclosure made. I have looked at the NV website and their design, it looks good but is pretty expensive.

Next year we will be sailing over to Turkey and the Dodecanese. I was thinking that I might get a good job done in Turkey for a reasonable price. Not to mention the VAT aspect of ordering from NV in France.

I am looking for recommendations for, I guess, Turkey.???? 

Kind regards

Nick

S/Y Amelia AML 54-019

 Kefalonia for now.