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Re: headsail furler locking pin.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Alan, how did you separate the parts. Did you have to take the forestay down or did you do it in place. 

Regards

Danny

On 17 September 2019 at 12:57 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,
Bad luck.
We had that happen a few years ago and it is the slot in the plate that the pin engages in which becomes worn and under tension the pin can spring up and out of the slot.
We engineered a thin plate to bolt to the existing plate and thus create a new slot over the existing one. That seems to have worked quite well.
Our pin wasn't worn at all, only the plate.
Our furler is slightly different to yours, but the principle is the same.
You need to take the two halves of the top piece apart to get access to the plate and the pin.
Our pin was held in by a nut underneath the top piece. Yours may be different.
Good luck
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437   


Re: Color number for SM2K Redline

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi All

We would also be interested to get the correct paint number for the trim on the Amel Redline models?

Is there anyone out there that has this information, please?

Kindest regards

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Vuda Point Marina, Fiji Islands

On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 9:40 AM Olaf Bauer <olaf.bauer@...> wrote:
Hello AMELians,

could someone provide the color numbers for a SM2K Redline for the white hull, the red water line and the red stripes at the top of the hull at the side.

Thanks so much :-)

Fair winds

Olaf

 

S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392

currently inTrinidad



--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

Matt Salatino
 

Hi Arlo,
We had the yard do it. They offer it as a service.
We had it done in 2014, when we applied CopperCoat. Sorry, but I no longer have the yard bill, and can’t remember what we paid. I’ll make a big guess and say it’s likely less than on the Chesapeake, but I don’t know for sure. You can call the marina and ask them. They were pretty nice to me.
Oh, and they didn’t take it down to the gelcoat. I wanted them to take it to the barrier coat (CeramCoat). They did a great job. 

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Sep 16, 2019, at 8:55 PM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Matt, who did you have do it at Cape Marina? I will likely be getting it done next summer and I am at Cape Marina. Also what did they charge you if youndont mind me asking...


Re: headsail furler locking pin.

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Danny,
Bad luck.
We had that happen a few years ago and it is the slot in the plate that the pin engages in which becomes worn and under tension the pin can spring up and out of the slot.
We engineered a thin plate to bolt to the existing plate and thus create a new slot over the existing one. That seems to have worked quite well.
Our pin wasn't worn at all, only the plate.
Our furler is slightly different to yours, but the principle is the same.
You need to take the two halves of the top piece apart to get access to the plate and the pin.
Our pin was held in by a nut underneath the top piece. Yours may be different.
Good luck
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437   


Re: Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

Arlo
 

Matt, who did you have do it at Cape Marina? I will likely be getting it done next summer and I am at Cape Marina. Also what did they charge you if youndont mind me asking...


headsail furler locking pin.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all,

the pin holding the headsail furler to the motor let go yesterday allowing the involuntary unfurling of the headsail. The pin must have lifted out of its hole to allow this to happen. The pin and its mechanism are still in place and when not under load functioning normally. For this to happen it would seem that the pin and/or the hole have become tapered. The fix would seem to be to remove the pin mechanism (photo attached) and turn the receiving plate and drill a new hole down through the hole for the mechanism. If the pin is worn as well repair or replace. So far so good. Has anyone removed this mechanism. Before I apply force to it I would like to be sure it is threaded in and not retained by another method. There is a hex on it, and looking closely it seems there is a build up of alloy around its base, if so this may have been done to prevent the fitting unscrewing involuntarily, a sensible precaution. I would appreciate the sharing of experience on this.

Thanking you in anticipation

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

Savusavu Fiji 




 


Re: Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

Matt Salatino
 

We had the same done at Cape Marina, Canaveral, Florida. They did an excellent job.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Sep 16, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

We had it done to our Super Maramu last winter.  It was done by a very experienced contractor 20 miles south of Annapolis who has over 25 years of experience with soda blasting boat hulls.  I made it clear I that I wanted to taken down to gelcoat NOT to fiberglass.  They understood what I was after and complied with my request.  I was very pleased with the results.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

Mark McGovern
 

We had it done to our Super Maramu last winter.  It was done by a very experienced contractor 20 miles south of Annapolis who has over 25 years of experience with soda blasting boat hulls.  I made it clear I that I wanted to taken down to gelcoat NOT to fiberglass.  They understood what I was after and complied with my request.  I was very pleased with the results.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit

Jose Alegria
 

Dear fellows

If anyone needs a new pump or a maintenance kit, contact:

 info@...

Francesca give me 6-8 weeks for a new pump:

Diaphragm pump TM 50 24V DC 0,12Kw

With body pump in PVC - 460 €

Francesca give too 10 days :

Spare parts kit for TM 50 complete of:

2 membranes

2 valves

1 o-ring - 40 €

Kindest regards

 


Re: Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Eric. Sorry for the delay in replying we are cruising in and put of email contact. I couldnt say the type of insertion rubber but i made the diaphragm out of 2mm. I thought of putting two in but didnt. I would think that 2x2mm would be more flexible than 1x 3mm. Anyway i will see how the  1x 2mm goes. The flap I made out of 3mm. Two thickneses glued together to give 6 on the flap, 3 at the flex hinge and 6 where the little bar is screwed through to locate it. The 6mm on the flap is much thicker than the standard so less prone to "curving". I got a special rubber cement to glue it but i am sorry my memory wont stretch 5 years. I would think that the glue out of a cycle tyre repair kit would do but what i got was reputed to be supeior. Hope this helps.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 13 September 2019 at 12:37 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi,

There are a number of insertion rubbers available made of different rubbers.

What type did you use? What thickness did you use for the diaphragm and the flapper valves?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:45 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Marina ZZ bilge pump maintenance kit

 

Hi, in the absence of a kit to hand  I made copies of the flap valves out of thick insertion rubber. This a fibre reinforced rubber sheet. I found the replacements tended to take a curve and not seal well. I got about 5 years out of the ones I made. I have just installed a new diaphragm I made out of a suitable thickness insertion rubber sheet. I punched the centre hole, put it on the shaft, closed the pump on to it, held it there while I drilled the holes. Then bolted it up and trimmed around to outer size. Working well. I made a second while I was at it to put in spares. I have been carrying the insertion rubber sheet as spare for some years. If I get premature failure (which I doubt) Ill buy the replacement 

I could have bought one first up  but I enjoy the process.

Cruising again at last. At Volivoli, Viti Vevu Fiji. Had two magnificent dives with Wananuva dive this morning. Wow.

Danny

SM299

Ocean pearl

Regards

Danny

On 12 September 2019 at 07:55 Roque <ediroque@...> wrote:

Alan

 

I recently bought from Amel. The rubber valve is a reinforced new version ( see pic)

 

1 [03028] KIT POMPE MARINA ZZ 219424/ Electric bilge pump repair kit  E$124,60 plus VAT
2 [03219] CLAPET ASPIRATION POMPE HENDERSON 72621/ Rubber valve for electric bilge pump E$17,42 each  34,84 plus VAT

 

Rgds

 

Roque

Attika A54 117

Paraty

 

Em qua, 11 de set de 2019 às 16:46, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> escreveu:

Amel - sav@... recently had them for the Marina ZZ

TF Marine makes an identical pump. It is either number TM-50 or TM-70...not sure. I cannot tell you where to find TF Marine spares, except at Amel...Amel replaced the reya pump with TF Marine.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 2:33 PM Alan Grayson < bazgrayson@...> wrote:

Hi All, Does anyone know where to get the rebuild kits for the Reya Marina ZZ bilge pump. I got on the Reya website but if my translation is right they do not sell to individuals and a google search under their part numbers has not turned up any suppliers.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
St Michaels, MD

 

 

 

 

 



 


 


Re: Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Ruedi,
In my opinion soda blasting is great at removing old paint and leaving a perfect surface for epoxy primer; so long as the operator knows what he is doing...
That is a big caveat. 
In the wrong hands the gelcoat can be damaged such that it will require some filling and fairing.
Perhaps you can see a sample of the work.
Sand and grit blasting are more aggressive and best avoided.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019
Kefalonia

On 16 Sep 2019, at 18:22, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Why don't you ask Amel?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 11:46 AM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Looking for opinions from the AMEL Group about Soda Blasting

 

Because I don’t’ know the history of the last 12 years on WASABI what was below the recent AF, how many layer of AF etc. I have in mind to sand down all the old layers. Before I bought my beloved AMEL I owned an Aluminum Boat and treatment of underwater where different.  I got an offer from MANOEL Yacht Yard in Malta to remove old paint with Soda Blasting of the underwater GPR Area. 

I don’t know this process and asking the group of their knowledge and how good/bad it is for the undelaying Gelcoat? 

Is there anything to be aware or specific care to know when doing Soda Blasting?

I know from reading that sandblasting can damage the gel-coat, is Soda Blasting same or less invasive for the hull? 

 

Best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55


Re: Want to buy used Genoa for SM

Russ Roberts
 

Alexandre, please send me your email address: russ "dot" roberts "dot" va "at" gmail "dot" com


Re: Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

 

Why don't you ask Amel?

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 11:46 AM Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Looking for opinions from the AMEL Group about Soda Blasting

 

Because I don’t’ know the history of the last 12 years on WASABI what was below the recent AF, how many layer of AF etc. I have in mind to sand down all the old layers. Before I bought my beloved AMEL I owned an Aluminum Boat and treatment of underwater where different.  I got an offer from MANOEL Yacht Yard in Malta to remove old paint with Soda Blasting of the underwater GPR Area. 

I don’t know this process and asking the group of their knowledge and how good/bad it is for the undelaying Gelcoat? 

Is there anything to be aware or specific care to know when doing Soda Blasting?

I know from reading that sandblasting can damage the gel-coat, is Soda Blasting same or less invasive for the hull? 

 

Best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55


Soda Blasting of underwater GPR Area.

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Looking for opinions from the AMEL Group about Soda Blasting

 

Because I don’t’ know the history of the last 12 years on WASABI what was below the recent AF, how many layer of AF etc. I have in mind to sand down all the old layers. Before I bought my beloved AMEL I owned an Aluminum Boat and treatment of underwater where different.  I got an offer from MANOEL Yacht Yard in Malta to remove old paint with Soda Blasting of the underwater GPR Area. 

I don’t know this process and asking the group of their knowledge and how good/bad it is for the undelaying Gelcoat? 

Is there anything to be aware or specific care to know when doing Soda Blasting?

I know from reading that sandblasting can damage the gel-coat, is Soda Blasting same or less invasive for the hull? 

 

Best regards

Ruedi

SY-WASABI 

AMEL 54#55


Re: Want to buy used Genoa for SM

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Russ,

I saved mine.
It is about 35-40% used (but would prefer a sailmaker gives an exact state of use), need the bi-annual restitching.
The only issue, it is in Sint Marten (where it will have to be picked up) and I won’t be there for a few more months…

Sincerely, Alexandre

Note: I also have main sail in similar condition and a brand new Mizzen sail.

On Sunday, September 15, 2019, 1:31:59 PM CDT, Russ Roberts <russ.roberts.va@...> wrote:


We're in the market for a serviceable Genoa to have onboard as a backup on our SM2K. Please email me if you have an extra one hanging around.
russ "dot" roberts "dot" va "at" gee-mail "dot" com.

Thanks!
Russ 
SM391


Re: SM main furler motor

Ian Townsend
 

VF44 P1 60 P63B14 B3

SPEED REDUCER, 60;1 RATIO, 63 FRAME, B14 FLANGE , CODE: 200480249 


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Sep 16, 2019, at 12:08 AM, Ian Townsend via Groups.Io <smlocalola@...> wrote:

I just took delivery for our Bonfiglioli unit. Lead time was several weeks. 

MITCH SILVERMAN
DRIVETECH AUTOMATION, INC.
5401 NW 102ND AVE.  #146
SUNRISE, FL. 33351
TEL: 954-746-9800
FAX: 954-746-5509
WEBSITE: WWW.DRIVETECHONLINE.COM


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Sep 15, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Dan Taylor <svflygirl@...> wrote:

Mark,
Can you provide the model number and company you purchased it from for the Bonfiglioli MVF44.

Also, what does the gear ratio for the main furler and outhaul furler need to be?  There are many on line that have gear rations from 20:1 to 55:1...not sure what I have on both.

Thanks,
Dan
SM 116
FlyGirl
San Diego, CA


Re: SM main furler motor

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

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Gaerbox Re: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM main furler motor

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He ian here a foto fro ouer gaerbox
from Bonfiglioli .

In the afternoon i can send a foto from the bill with part numbers .

The Liroy Somer motor you can only order by Amel it was not possible to by it by any other .
The price is araund 800,00€

Best Elja







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Re: SM main furler motor

Ian Townsend
 

I just took delivery for our Bonfiglioli unit. Lead time was several weeks. 

MITCH SILVERMAN
DRIVETECH AUTOMATION, INC.
5401 NW 102ND AVE.  #146
SUNRISE, FL. 33351
TEL: 954-746-9800
FAX: 954-746-5509
WEBSITE: WWW.DRIVETECHONLINE.COM


Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Sep 15, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Dan Taylor <svflygirl@...> wrote:

Mark,
Can you provide the model number and company you purchased it from for the Bonfiglioli MVF44.

Also, what does the gear ratio for the main furler and outhaul furler need to be?  There are many on line that have gear rations from 20:1 to 55:1...not sure what I have on both.

Thanks,
Dan
SM 116
FlyGirl
San Diego, CA


Lip Seals and Outhaul gearbox

Mike Ondra
 

Some have fitted the outhaul gearbox with grease fittings. How has that worked out?

We have been trying to seal the top shaft with RTV where water lays to try to mitigate water intrusion and rust. Other ideas?

Also the factory paint job seemed to hold up only 2 or 3 years. Power coat or epoxy on the, what appears to be, cast aluminum?

Thanks, Mike

 

Rebuilding our outhaul gearbox, bow thruster, and replacing drive shaft seals pushed me to do an inventory of all our lip seals. Thought the list might be of use to others, or others may have additions/corrections/comments in developing a master, at least for SMs. Note our hull #240.