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Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Alan Leslie
 

If you intend to sail with the genoa partly furled you definitely need a foam or rope luff insert.
Even with these the sail shape is not great when furled but it's definitely better than not having it.
The sail shape doesn't look too bad from the cockpit, but have a look at a yacht sailing behind you with a furled genoa and you'll see how baggy it is, whoich wehne the breeze gets up, is exactly what you don't want!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
Re: SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement

Stephen Davis
 

We replaced our main salon and aft unit with Marine Air by Dometic in June 2014. Both are still working well, and so far, zero issues. 

Steve
Aloha SM 72
Hawaii

On Oct 14, 2019, at 18:33, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Michael we replaced ours

with a Dometic 10-

Almost plug and play.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mueller via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 10:53 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement #replacement

 

Greetings!

Our CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon of SM2K #417 has failed. The compressor has a ground fault and trips the GFI.
Has anyone successfully replaced the unit or rebuilt the compressor?
We are currently not on the boat.
Does the Webasto Blue Cool S S10-R-230VREV (10k BTU) or even the S13-R-230V (13k BTU) unit fit in the available space under the salon bench?
At the Annapolis sailboat show a vendor with a good reputation in the Marine AC business recommended the "Marine Air"  built in China as a viable replacement.
Does anyone have experiences with either one?

Thank you in advance & with kind regards
Michael & Robyn
SY RIPPLE SM2K#417 currently in Brunswick, GA

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

eric freedman
 

Thanks

Kent !!

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 10:56 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

I ordered 20 meters.  It will do bow lockers, port deck locker, aft lazarette, and engine room hatches, with some left over....I hope ;-)>

I’ve done all but the engine room and still have quite a bit left, I’m all but certain it will be enough.

 

Kent

Kristy

SM 243



On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:25 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

How many meters of the gasket material did you order and what hatches will that quantity of

Material repair?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:39 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Eric.  They are 25mm across the base and12mm high.

 

Kent

SM 243

Kristy

 

On Oct 9, 2019, at 5:10 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 



Hi Kent,

Thanks for the photos.

What are the dimensions of the seals?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:43 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Steve,

I paid 8.70€/M plus shipping. I’m not sure she has enough to do another boat.  She couldn’t tell me anything about it when I was placing my order.  Said she had Some of several different profiles that had been used over the years, and sent me the one she did based on my description and pic of my original.  It sounded like that may be the last of what she has.  It is a stock design that should be available considerable cheaper where ever you are (Hawaii?)

 

Malama mai ka’i nui loa lawe, ko’u ho’aloha.

 

A hui hou.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243





On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

 

What is Amel charging per meter for the material?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Aloha SM 72

Hawaii


On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:39, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I got the seals from Maud at Amel France.  They are half-round with a stiff bottom and what I think is neoprene rounded top.  The top is very soft and appears to be exactly the same as the originals.  The attached pics show the old (on the left) and new seals, the adhesive strips, and how Amel cut a small “V” at the site where the hinge bolt/washer/nut come close to the seal.  It is difficult to make the corners exact, I chose to add silicone caulk inside the corners and at the sites where the wedge was cut out to make room for the bolt.

Hardest part is reinstalling as it requires working on both sides of the hatch to tighten the hinge bolts.  Made easier by replacing the slot head bolts with Phillips heads.  Would be much easier with two people.


I will report again in a month or two to let you know how well it worked.

<351FA7CE-99C3-4082-956D-3396F2DE8A66.jpeg><A646EDF3-48E5-4C56-980C-CC4BA3A297FB.jpeg><70851A93-5550-45FD-A38A-6AC4660B65A1.jpeg>
Re: SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement

eric freedman
 

Michael we replaced ours

with a Dometic 10-

Almost plug and play.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Michael Mueller via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 10:53 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement #replacement

 

Greetings!

Our CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon of SM2K #417 has failed. The compressor has a ground fault and trips the GFI.
Has anyone successfully replaced the unit or rebuilt the compressor?
We are currently not on the boat.
Does the Webasto Blue Cool S S10-R-230VREV (10k BTU) or even the S13-R-230V (13k BTU) unit fit in the available space under the salon bench?
At the Annapolis sailboat show a vendor with a good reputation in the Marine AC business recommended the "Marine Air"  built in China as a viable replacement.
Does anyone have experiences with either one?

Thank you in advance & with kind regards
Michael & Robyn
SY RIPPLE SM2K#417 currently in Brunswick, GA

Re: Companion way for removal

Paul Brown
 

Of course from the 55 production the door is plexiglass with a stainless frame of top and front sliders and allows lots of light

Perhaps Amel could assist with a production or a design for a retrofit to earlier models

Regards, Paul - Fortuna 55/17

 Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Oct 2019, at 14:57, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Has anyone thought about replacing the door with a piece of Lexan or plexiglass?  Maybe a teak frame with clear plastic insert?

It would require some thought to make it seal well when closed and NOT scratch the plastic when sliding up and down.

Sure would be nice to have more light.

Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243

On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:50 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi FF,

Kimberlite has been underwater during our time in a hurricane for 36 hours. Nothing but the masts sticking up out of the water. I think we stopped counting at 20. The laminate is still strongly in place with no problems with the companionway.

I believe the laminate is at least 9 years old.

Fair Winds

 

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of scentstone
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:45 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Thank you Eric for the first extensive tutorial, 
Thank you Ian for the alternative product
Thank you Bill for the very insightful questions.

Even if there was some previous threads about this subject in the forum, we all need to clarify the most secure way to replace the veneer using a wood product and placing it also under the external guides because, in some rough conditions, if the job isn't made in using a single sheet properly glued, it can drive to a blocked companionway after sometime in bad weather which is highly undesirable…
Ian, may be have you some images and a more detailed process and we can start here to make a detailed how-to. 
If we succeed, I'll update my external veener and post here also the details and images.
Kind regards
FF

Re: Companion way for removal

karkauai
 

Has anyone thought about replacing the door with a piece of Lexan or plexiglass?  Maybe a teak frame with clear plastic insert?

It would require some thought to make it seal well when closed and NOT scratch the plastic when sliding up and down.

Sure would be nice to have more light.

Kent & Iris
Kristy
SM 243

On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:50 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi FF,

Kimberlite has been underwater during our time in a hurricane for 36 hours. Nothing but the masts sticking up out of the water. I think we stopped counting at 20. The laminate is still strongly in place with no problems with the companionway.

I believe the laminate is at least 9 years old.

Fair Winds

 

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of scentstone
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:45 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Thank you Eric for the first extensive tutorial, 
Thank you Ian for the alternative product
Thank you Bill for the very insightful questions.

Even if there was some previous threads about this subject in the forum, we all need to clarify the most secure way to replace the veneer using a wood product and placing it also under the external guides because, in some rough conditions, if the job isn't made in using a single sheet properly glued, it can drive to a blocked companionway after sometime in bad weather which is highly undesirable…
Ian, may be have you some images and a more detailed process and we can start here to make a detailed how-to. 
If we succeed, I'll update my external veener and post here also the details and images.
Kind regards
FF

Re: SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement

Matt Salatino
 

We lived aboard our previous boat in Florida. Air conditioning was a requirement, running pretty much non-stop through the summer. In 18 years, we went through 3 brands. Marine air was the first. It lasted 7 years, with several control board failures, two capacitive start failures, and the final straw, a compressor failure. I tried to economize on the second one. It lasted 4 years, first with a fan motor failure, a reversing valve failure, with a factory defect in a cable shorting the unit and causing catastrophic failure.
I then went for the best unit I could find. I bought a Mermaid Air, because of good reviews from a friend, and a 5 year warranty. It’s been doing fine for 5 years, so far. I sold the boat with it still working.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Oct 14, 2019, at 10:53 PM, Michael Mueller via Groups.Io <mijmu5@...> wrote:

Greetings!

Our CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon of SM2K #417 has failed. The compressor has a ground fault and trips the GFI.
Has anyone successfully replaced the unit or rebuilt the compressor?
We are currently not on the boat.
Does the Webasto Blue Cool S S10-R-230VREV (10k BTU) or even the S13-R-230V (13k BTU) unit fit in the available space under the salon bench?
At the Annapolis sailboat show a vendor with a good reputation in the Marine AC business recommended the "Marine Air"  built in China as a viable replacement.
Does anyone have experiences with either one?

Thank you in advance & with kind regards
Michael & Robyn
SY RIPPLE SM2K#417 currently in Brunswick, GA

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

karkauai
 

I ordered 20 meters.  It will do bow lockers, port deck locker, aft lazarette, and engine room hatches, with some left over....I hope ;-)>
I’ve done all but the engine room and still have quite a bit left, I’m all but certain it will be enough.


Kent
Kristy
SM 243

On Oct 14, 2019, at 9:25 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

How many meters of the gasket material did you order and what hatches will that quantity of

Material repair?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:39 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Eric.  They are 25mm across the base and12mm high.

 

Kent

SM 243

Kristy

 

On Oct 9, 2019, at 5:10 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 



Hi Kent,

Thanks for the photos.

What are the dimensions of the seals?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:43 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Steve,

I paid 8.70€/M plus shipping. I’m not sure she has enough to do another boat.  She couldn’t tell me anything about it when I was placing my order.  Said she had Some of several different profiles that had been used over the years, and sent me the one she did based on my description and pic of my original.  It sounded like that may be the last of what she has.  It is a stock design that should be available considerable cheaper where ever you are (Hawaii?)

 

Malama mai ka’i nui loa lawe, ko’u ho’aloha.

 

A hui hou.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243




On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

 

What is Amel charging per meter for the material?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Aloha SM 72

Hawaii


On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:39, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I got the seals from Maud at Amel France.  They are half-round with a stiff bottom and what I think is neoprene rounded top.  The top is very soft and appears to be exactly the same as the originals.  The attached pics show the old (on the left) and new seals, the adhesive strips, and how Amel cut a small “V” at the site where the hinge bolt/washer/nut come close to the seal.  It is difficult to make the corners exact, I chose to add silicone caulk inside the corners and at the sites where the wedge was cut out to make room for the bolt.

Hardest part is reinstalling as it requires working on both sides of the hatch to tighten the hinge bolts.  Made easier by replacing the slot head bolts with Phillips heads.  Would be much easier with two people.


I will report again in a month or two to let you know how well it worked.

<351FA7CE-99C3-4082-956D-3396F2DE8A66.jpeg><A646EDF3-48E5-4C56-980C-CC4BA3A297FB.jpeg><70851A93-5550-45FD-A38A-6AC4660B65A1.jpeg>
SM2K: Replacing a CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon #replacement

Michael Mueller
 

Greetings!

Our CLIMMA 9EH AC unit in the Salon of SM2K #417 has failed. The compressor has a ground fault and trips the GFI.
Has anyone successfully replaced the unit or rebuilt the compressor?
We are currently not on the boat.
Does the Webasto Blue Cool S S10-R-230VREV (10k BTU) or even the S13-R-230V (13k BTU) unit fit in the available space under the salon bench?
At the Annapolis sailboat show a vendor with a good reputation in the Marine AC business recommended the "Marine Air"  built in China as a viable replacement.
Does anyone have experiences with either one?

Thank you in advance & with kind regards
Michael & Robyn
SY RIPPLE SM2K#417 currently in Brunswick, GA
Re: Twisted chain - Amel 54

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

Many years ago I read the misadventure of a cruiser who tried to untwist his chain by letting it and the anchor dangle out in deep water, only to find out his windlass couldn’t retrieve the full weight. Oops. 

I don’t think it could happen to us, but is it damaging to the windlass? Are there any other good tips to untwist the chain?

Best,
Thomas 
GARULFO 
A54-122
Fakarava, French Polynesia 

On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 at 10:02, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

I agree Bill

Danny

On 11 October 2019 at 10:09 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Eamonn,

I will politely remind you of this:
"We encourage you to support the Amel brand and be respectful to the brand in your postings. Care should be taken to not post anything that could be considered offensive or derogatory regarding Amel, any Member, or Sponsor."
Please edit your post for two reasons: (1)You stated your opinion as fact, and (2) it was disrespectful of Amel management.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
 
     
 


On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 2:48 PM Eamonn Washington < eamonn.washington@...> wrote:
Hi

In 5 years I never had twisted chain issues, with 80m galvanised chain, anchoring about 120 times a year in the past 3 years.

Amel supplied, shall we say, inferior anchors to what was available in the industry.  Could be they also supplied inferior swivels.  I guess they reason owners would upgrade to modern (spade, rocna, ultra) anchors and swivels.  I personally installed a spade anchor, with a bow shackle to 3 links of chain, then a kong swivel, then my 80m chain.  (The 3 links of chain avoid the swivel ever having a lateral load which would exceed its capabilities.)  

Regarding the stainless steel jumping on the gypsy, maybe it is because stainless steel stretches and some links don’t fit so well on the gypsy any more.  

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Denia, Spain.

 

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

eric freedman
 

Hi Kent,

How many meters of the gasket material did you order and what hatches will that quantity of

Material repair?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 11:39 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Eric.  They are 25mm across the base and12mm high.

 

Kent

SM 243

Kristy

 

On Oct 9, 2019, at 5:10 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 



Hi Kent,

Thanks for the photos.

What are the dimensions of the seals?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 4:43 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Hi Steve,

I paid 8.70€/M plus shipping. I’m not sure she has enough to do another boat.  She couldn’t tell me anything about it when I was placing my order.  Said she had Some of several different profiles that had been used over the years, and sent me the one she did based on my description and pic of my original.  It sounded like that may be the last of what she has.  It is a stock design that should be available considerable cheaper where ever you are (Hawaii?)

 

Malama mai ka’i nui loa lawe, ko’u ho’aloha.

 

A hui hou.

Kent

Kristy

SM 243




On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> wrote:



Hi Kent,

 

What is Amel charging per meter for the material?

 

Thanks,

 

Steve

Aloha SM 72

Hawaii


On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:39, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

I got the seals from Maud at Amel France.  They are half-round with a stiff bottom and what I think is neoprene rounded top.  The top is very soft and appears to be exactly the same as the originals.  The attached pics show the old (on the left) and new seals, the adhesive strips, and how Amel cut a small “V” at the site where the hinge bolt/washer/nut come close to the seal.  It is difficult to make the corners exact, I chose to add silicone caulk inside the corners and at the sites where the wedge was cut out to make room for the bolt.

Hardest part is reinstalling as it requires working on both sides of the hatch to tighten the hinge bolts.  Made easier by replacing the slot head bolts with Phillips heads.  Would be much easier with two people.


I will report again in a month or two to let you know how well it worked.

<351FA7CE-99C3-4082-956D-3396F2DE8A66.jpeg><A646EDF3-48E5-4C56-980C-CC4BA3A297FB.jpeg><70851A93-5550-45FD-A38A-6AC4660B65A1.jpeg>
Re: Companion way for removal

eric freedman
 

Hi FF,

Kimberlite has been underwater during our time in a hurricane for 36 hours. Nothing but the masts sticking up out of the water. I think we stopped counting at 20. The laminate is still strongly in place with no problems with the companionway.

I believe the laminate is at least 9 years old.

Fair Winds

 

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of scentstone
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 11:45 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal

 

Thank you Eric for the first extensive tutorial, 
Thank you Ian for the alternative product
Thank you Bill for the very insightful questions.

Even if there was some previous threads about this subject in the forum, we all need to clarify the most secure way to replace the veneer using a wood product and placing it also under the external guides because, in some rough conditions, if the job isn't made in using a single sheet properly glued, it can drive to a blocked companionway after sometime in bad weather which is highly undesirable…
Ian, may be have you some images and a more detailed process and we can start here to make a detailed how-to. 
If we succeed, I'll update my external veener and post here also the details and images.
Kind regards
FF

Re: Companion way for removal

Alan Grayson
 

We just painted ours. Epoxy filler, Epoxy primer and awlgrip topcoat. Nordic white
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of scentstone <scentstone@...>
Sent: Monday, 14 October 2019 3:45:09 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companion way for removal
 
Thank you Eric for the first extensive tutorial, 
Thank you Ian for the alternative product
Thank you Bill for the very insightful questions.

Even if there was some previous threads about this subject in the forum, we all need to clarify the most secure way to replace the veneer using a wood product and placing it also under the external guides because, in some rough conditions, if the job isn't made in using a single sheet properly glued, it can drive to a blocked companionway after sometime in bad weather which is highly undesirable…
Ian, may be have you some images and a more detailed process and we can start here to make a detailed how-to. 
If we succeed, I'll update my external veener and post here also the details and images.
Kind regards
FF

Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Paul, 

I ahree with Bill

 The foam luff is essential. I find sailmakers resist putting them in and suggest altenatives. I can only assume the foam luff is more difficult. My advice. Insist on the foam luff.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl 

On 15 October 2019 at 05:52 Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

I'm in the process of ordering sails most likely Radial Hydranet from Incidences. One concern I have they do not do Foam luff, they claim it's no good. Now my questions to you who have incidences genoas, Do you have foam luff? if not, does it furl/reef well?
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259 wintering in Lagos
Re: Permanent 24 v to 12 v converter

Thomas Peacock
 

As part of putting in new instruments, I was able to shut down the “permanent” Sailor. Unfortunately, we do not have an on/off switch anywhere on our Sailors.

When I installed a new Raymarine Autohelm, the main box has a 12 volt output for networking instruments that includes a power supply. Therefore, the various gauges and chart plotter all get power from that. One could consider having a backup power source for instruments, in case the autohelm were to go bad. The instruments are all activated by the Autohelm breaker. The new Quantum radar also is wired into that breaker, 24 volts. Thus, one Sailor is now freed up.
Since the VHF is the most important of my present 12 volt devices, it has its own dedicated Sailor.
The second Sailor runs the FM/CD radio, as well as the 12 volt circuits for cigar lighters. Since cigar lighter plugs and receptacles are finicky, we don’t use them anymore. Instead, I installed a 24 v to 5 v USB hub for phone and other small device charging. However, be aware that very new laptops may use the new USB 3/USB-C type connectors to charge the computer battery. It is important to be aware of the total demand on your USB hub.
The third Sailor is inactivated by having pulled the fuse. However, I sleep well at night knowing that in case either of the other two Sailors were to go down, there is at least a spare.

I don’t really care about the radio storing stations. But, if important, one could run the dedicated wire from the radio to the 12 v starter battery, with an in-line fuse. That is what is done on automobiles. The power draw is negligible. Plus you could always just pull the fuse if leaving unattended for more than a few weeks.

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay, US, leaving for Martinique November 3


On Oct 14, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:

I’m surprised about the function of the Permanent 24 v to 12 v converter. If I understand it right the only original function is to keep the memory in the FM/AM radio even when the main switch is off.
The current when it is on is ca 0,5 volt, that is a lot of Ah during a day, or during a two-week crossing it’s close to 165Ah. That is a lot of waste unless you regularly run your gen set but we try to rely on solar.
The only way to turn it off is to pull out the fuse. To me that is overkill to have such a heavy-duty converter for such a little use.
 When my friend changes his car battery, he connects an ordinary 9 volt battery to the stereo and that is enough to keep the memory.
I have connected some 12 v appliances to the permanent converter, 12v led light in the galley, and a few USB outlets.
Have I missed anything about the function of the Permanent converter?
Paul on SY Kerpa SAM#259 Lagos
Re: Twisted chain - Amel 54

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I agree Bill

Danny

On 11 October 2019 at 10:09 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Eamonn,

I will politely remind you of this:
"We encourage you to support the Amel brand and be respectful to the brand in your postings. Care should be taken to not post anything that could be considered offensive or derogatory regarding Amel, any Member, or Sponsor."
Please edit your post for two reasons: (1)You stated your opinion as fact, and (2) it was disrespectful of Amel management.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
     
 


On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 2:48 PM Eamonn Washington < eamonn.washington@...> wrote:
Hi

In 5 years I never had twisted chain issues, with 80m galvanised chain, anchoring about 120 times a year in the past 3 years.

Amel supplied, shall we say, inferior anchors to what was available in the industry.  Could be they also supplied inferior swivels.  I guess they reason owners would upgrade to modern (spade, rocna, ultra) anchors and swivels.  I personally installed a spade anchor, with a bow shackle to 3 links of chain, then a kong swivel, then my 80m chain.  (The 3 links of chain avoid the swivel ever having a lateral load which would exceed its capabilities.)  

Regarding the stainless steel jumping on the gypsy, maybe it is because stainless steel stretches and some links don’t fit so well on the gypsy any more.  

Eamonn Washington
Travel Bug
Super Maramu #151
Currently in Denia, Spain.

 

 
Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

Ian Townsend
 

Make sure that Incidences cuts your mainsail to the proper size. The previous owner commissioned from Incidences and the "P" dimension (luff) was 45 cm too short. As a result the "E" (foot) was also incorrect.

Ian & Margaret
S/V Loca Lola II 
SM153
US East Coast

On Oct 14, 2019, at 6:59 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

I truly believe that a foam luff is needed on an Amel furling foresail, especially if you ever plan to reef the sail.

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 11:52 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
I'm in the process of ordering sails most likely Radial Hydranet from Incidences. One concern I have they do not do Foam luff, they claim it's no good. Now my questions to you who have incidences genoas, Do you have foam luff? if not, does it furl/reef well?
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259 wintering in Lagos
Re: Companion way for removal

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

The horizontal orientation was primarily personal preference from the customary way companionway hatches have traditionally been fabricated; when they had to be removed and stowed.  Also, if someone was intent on breaking in the strength of the assembly is far stronger in the horizontal configuration.  Discounting the inability to remove the hatch the Amel method of sliding the hatch down and leaving it in place is nice.

PS - The authorities announced yesterday the overturned car carrier at St. Simons is going to be sectioned and removed in pieces.

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Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54
Re: Permanent 24 v to 12 v converter

Paul Osterberg
 

Bill Thank you
I will add a switch not to concerned to loose my radio settings 
Paul
Re: New Genoa sail for Amel 54

CW Bill Rouse
 

I truly believe that a foam luff is needed on an Amel furling foresail, especially if you ever plan to reef the sail.

--
CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 11:52 AM Paul Osterberg <osterberg.paul.l@...> wrote:
I'm in the process of ordering sails most likely Radial Hydranet from Incidences. One concern I have they do not do Foam luff, they claim it's no good. Now my questions to you who have incidences genoas, Do you have foam luff? if not, does it furl/reef well?
Paul SY Kerpa SM#259 wintering in Lagos
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