Paul, i had a Little bit of water last Fall and tightened the nut 1/3 of a turn.  No water so far this season.  I would try to tighten the nut further before anything else.  

Joerg Esdorn 
A55 Kincsem

Hello Paul,

originally, this line is rather tight, indeed as Bill says, in order to prevent slipage. But with time, UV and salt, this Vectran-core line tends to shrink and gets tighter and tighter which puts more load than necessary on the motor itself. You should loosen a bit the small line tackle at one end of the traveller's line.

Olivier

Paul 

It depends on the amount of corrosion. I helped a 55 owner with this issue. Everything cleaned up with a stainless steel brush and CorrosionX. We used Corroseal afterwards to ensure that we had all of the rust. A few spots turned black indicating some remaining rust. 

I think using only CorrosionX will probably work fine for you. Check it frequently. Amel must have added a battery powered water alarm in 55 models after yours. I highly recommend it. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 1:46 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hi Bill

Do you recommend using both products together, Corroseal and CorrosionX or just either?

Corroseal is detailed as a primer, so perhaps I would use this following the application of CorrosionX?

I’m in Sicily Italy and will look for the products of not I’ll order from the US when I’m back in Australia in two weeks 

Thanks again 

Regards Paul 

On 1 Oct 2019, at 9:20 pm, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hi bill,

No there is no water alarm in the compartment and the hoses and fittings I don’t think were soaked just splashed. There is no real corrosion as I have been maintaining the fittings by a steel brushing as required and keeping them clean lubricated and greased. 

I hadn’t thought of a water alarm but will now look into an installation

Thank you for the tip with corrosionX and Carroseal, I haven’t used the products before but will certainly try them now.

Again, it’s great to have your assistance with these matters, thank you so much 

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17

On 1 Oct 2019, at 8:50 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Paul,

An interesting comment: Mark McGovern states 1/6 turn is usually adequate for a SM. I have seen this true on all SMs and 54s. But what is interesting is that your 55 is now the 3rd 55 that required 1/2 turn to seal. I am not really sure why the difference. BTW, in all Amels, there is a mechanical lock device on the nut which has to be removed to tighten. All of the 55s I have seen came with an Amel-made wrench for this purpose.

Does your 55 have an Amel-installed water Alarm in the steering compartment? Does it work? Did the hydraulic hose fittings get soaked with saltwater? Is there corrosion on the fittings, solenoid valves and pump(s)/ If so, I found that all can be reasonable cleaned with CorrosionX and a stainless steel brush. You may also want to use Corroseal.

Bill
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	CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550  Website: www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hi Mark, thank you very much and roger that, I have now tightened it as your information but about a 1/2 turn as it was leaking a lot.

So if I do need to replace the packing material I’m guessing you remove the nut to do this and this is ok while the boat is in the water?

Kind Regards Paul 

On 1 Oct 2019, at 6:22 pm, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Paul,

In the Super Maramu there is a large nut at the top of the post.  You tighten it by turning it clockwise looking at it from above.  The general recommendation is to turn it 1/6 of a turn at a time and then wait and check for leaks.  Continue this process until the leak stops.  If it does not ever stop you will need to replace the packing material. 

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

The outhaul line should be tight with no deflection in the line. 

I believe the reason that loosening it helped reduce the amps was because the bearings need replacing...reducing side pressure to the axel of a failing bearing will usually allow the easing of the binding pressure. 

A loose outhaul line will allow some slippage through the gearbox line tender sheave on most Amels, although I have yet to see this happen on a 55, which has a different sheave than a SM or 54.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 3:07 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Thanks Joerg 

On 2 Oct 2019, at 10:02 am, Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313@...> wrote:

Loosen the spectra lines that attach the line to the car 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gary Wells
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:17 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Volvo TMD22 Timing Belt

Just had ours replaced in Martinique by Didier at Amel.   Both pulleys came with the kit and I was given the old parts for inspection. 

While the timing belt did show some signs of wear it was still in good shape and the pulleys seemed to be perfect; smooth and easy to turn
Still, it was a good call to replace them as now there is one less potential problem.

The motor is coming up on 6,000 hrs now and is still operating flawlessly.  (Starter Motor notwithstanding:) )

Gary W.
SM 209, Adagio
Galesville, MD USA

Loosen the spectra lines that attach the line to the car 

Thanks very much, Bill.  At the suggestion of another owner, I checked the tension of the outhaul line and found it to be iron tight.  Apparently the lines shrink a bit over the years.  This puts a lot of load on the bearings of course.  I now have it loosened so it hangs a bit down without touching the boom.  That reduced the amps to about 20-50.   Still above the 15-20 measured for the furling motor but less than before.   I will wait to take the gear box apart until I reach Vigo where the boat will remain for the winter.   

Joerg Esdorn 
A55 Kincsem 
currently in Cascais 

Hi bill,

No there is no water alarm in the compartment and the hoses and fittings I don’t think were soaked just splashed. There is no real corrosion as I have been maintaining the fittings by a steel brushing as required and keeping them clean lubricated and greased. 

I hadn’t thought of a water alarm but will now look into an installation

Thank you for the tip with corrosionX and Carroseal, I haven’t used the products before but will certainly try them now.

Again, it’s great to have your assistance with these matters, thank you so much 

Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17

On 1 Oct 2019, at 8:50 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Paul,

An interesting comment: Mark McGovern states 1/6 turn is usually adequate for a SM. I have seen this true on all SMs and 54s. But what is interesting is that your 55 is now the 3rd 55 that required 1/2 turn to seal. I am not really sure why the difference. BTW, in all Amels, there is a mechanical lock device on the nut which has to be removed to tighten. All of the 55s I have seen came with an Amel-made wrench for this purpose.

Does your 55 have an Amel-installed water Alarm in the steering compartment? Does it work? Did the hydraulic hose fittings get soaked with saltwater? Is there corrosion on the fittings, solenoid valves and pump(s)/ If so, I found that all can be reasonable cleaned with CorrosionX and a stainless steel brush. You may also want to use Corroseal.

Bill
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	CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550  Website: www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hi Mark, thank you very much and roger that, I have now tightened it as your information but about a 1/2 turn as it was leaking a lot.

So if I do need to replace the packing material I’m guessing you remove the nut to do this and this is ok while the boat is in the water?

Kind Regards Paul 

On 1 Oct 2019, at 6:22 pm, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Paul,

In the Super Maramu there is a large nut at the top of the post.  You tighten it by turning it clockwise looking at it from above.  The general recommendation is to turn it 1/6 of a turn at a time and then wait and check for leaks.  Continue this process until the leak stops.  If it does not ever stop you will need to replace the packing material. 

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

On Sep 16, 2019, at 4:03 AM, Ian Townsend <smlocalola@...> wrote:

VF44 P1 60 P63B14 B3

SPEED REDUCER, 60;1 RATIO, 63 FRAME, B14 FLANGE , CODE: 200480249 

Ian & Margaret

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

US East Coast

On Sep 16, 2019, at 12:08 AM, Ian Townsend via Groups.Io <smlocalola@...> wrote:

I just took delivery for our Bonfiglioli unit. Lead time was several weeks. 

MITCH SILVERMAN
DRIVETECH AUTOMATION, INC.
5401 NW 102ND AVE.  #146
SUNRISE, FL. 33351
TEL: 954-746-9800
FAX: 954-746-5509
WEBSITE: WWW.DRIVETECHONLINE.COM

Ian & Margaret

S/V Loca Lola II 

SM153

US East Coast

On Sep 15, 2019, at 3:37 PM, Dan Taylor <svflygirl@...> wrote:

Mark,
Can you provide the model number and company you purchased it from for the Bonfiglioli MVF44. 

Also, what does the gear ratio for the main furler and outhaul furler need to be?  There are many on line that have gear rations from 20:1 to 55:1...not sure what I have on both.

Thanks,
Dan
SM 116
FlyGirl
San Diego, CA

Paul,

An interesting comment: Mark McGovern states 1/6 turn is usually adequate for a SM. I have seen this true on all SMs and 54s. But what is interesting is that your 55 is now the 3rd 55 that required 1/2 turn to seal. I am not really sure why the difference. BTW, in all Amels, there is a mechanical lock device on the nut which has to be removed to tighten. All of the 55s I have seen came with an Amel-made wrench for this purpose.

Does your 55 have an Amel-installed water Alarm in the steering compartment? Does it work? Did the hydraulic hose fittings get soaked with saltwater? Is there corrosion on the fittings, solenoid valves and pump(s)/ If so, I found that all can be reasonable cleaned with CorrosionX and a stainless steel brush. You may also want to use Corroseal.

Bill
--

	CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School +1 832-380-4970 | brouse@... Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550  Website: www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:

Hi Mark, thank you very much and roger that, I have now tightened it as your information but about a 1/2 turn as it was leaking a lot.

So if I do need to replace the packing material I’m guessing you remove the nut to do this and this is ok while the boat is in the water?

Kind Regards Paul 

On 1 Oct 2019, at 6:22 pm, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Paul,

In the Super Maramu there is a large nut at the top of the post.  You tighten it by turning it clockwise looking at it from above.  The general recommendation is to turn it 1/6 of a turn at a time and then wait and check for leaks.  Continue this process until the leak stops.  If it does not ever stop you will need to replace the packing material. 

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA