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Re: Rudder seal
Paul, An interesting comment: Mark McGovern states 1/6 turn is usually adequate for a SM. I have seen this true on all SMs and 54s. But what is interesting is that your 55 is now the 3rd 55 that required 1/2 turn to seal. I am not really sure why the difference. BTW, in all Amels, there is a mechanical lock device on the nut which has to be removed to tighten. All of the 55s I have seen came with an Amel-made wrench for this purpose. Does your 55 have an Amel-installed water Alarm in the steering compartment? Does it work? Did the hydraulic hose fittings get soaked with saltwater? Is there corrosion on the fittings, solenoid valves and pump(s)/ If so, I found that all can be reasonable cleaned with CorrosionX and a stainless steel brush. You may also want to use Corroseal. Bill --
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
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Re: Antifouling for the Mediterranean
Tony, He deserves praise. In our experience and around the world, Alex and his uncle were the best. Bill --
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 4:10 AM tony wells via Groups.Io <tony.wells=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Rudder seal
Thank you Olivier
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I will follow your instruction and complete next haul out, it was only leaking some when under way, the plastic nut is almost all the way down so I guess it’s due Kind regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17
On 1 Oct 2019, at 7:03 pm, Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io <atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:
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Re: Cabin sole revarnish
James Alton
Miles, We have had good luck with the Min Wax Polyurathene on cabin soles and other high wear parts of yacht interiors. The product is single part, low smell, wears well for a single part and is easy to sand and recoat when the time comes. It does not have the best UV fesistance so I only use this product for down below projects. A word of warning about strippers. We had to completely remove all of the gelcoat from the hull on a customers 45' Ketch that was softened by a "gel coat safe" citrus based paint stripper that was left on the hull for an extended period of time. So if you use a stripper I would be careful to protect and rinse the gelcoat really well regardless of how safe the product is supposed to be. Personally, I think protecting the gelcoat from heat and using a heat gun or a sharp scrapper as a a mechanical method such as dry scrapping would be a better choice than a chemical stripper. Best of luck, James SV Sueno, Maramu #220 Lefkas Greece Sent from Samsung tablet.
-------- Original message -------- From: "smiles bernard via Groups.Io" <smilesbernard@...> Date: 9/30/19 10:43 PM (GMT+02:00) To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Cabin sole revarnish After over a year of solid family use my floors are due a revarnish I’ve found a great product for stripping the old varnish. Completely odourless and non toxic which is great for confined working spaces and works great. (Safe for grp too and can be used for antifould strip ) I’m still trying to figure out what to put on next and the process. My floorboards are a little stained so was planning a light rub down with 240 grit. Perhaps a team cleaner too? Then revarnish. I’m only interested in single part options tbh so it would seem the main choices are: - spar varnish for rapid build up followed by a harder wearing top layer or two such as epifanes rubbed effect - polyurethane like that used in bowling alleys ie non marine specific but hard wearing - an oil based option. I think sikens have a few options but I’m not sure it that’s at all suitable for interior Thoughts and expectations much appreciated I’m leaning towards polyurethane but my only concern is how to ever remove it. I’m not keen on leaving the next keeper of sea Love a pig of a job when it comes to the next cabin sole refurbishment All the very best Miles Sea Love #162
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Re: Gearbox for outhaulAmel
You can probably wait. Limit the use to short bursts. BTW, measuring the amps is an excellent method of determining this mechanical problem. If your 55 is like others I have seen, the gearbox may be full of corrosion. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 10:04 AM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: For a few weeks or possibly months, the outhaul furler has been slower than the main furler on my A55. Amel had me check the current limiter - it’s ok - and then had me check the current when furling. The main furler was about 15A, the outhaul however was 60 to 70 A. The diagnosis is that I have a failed bearing in the gearbox for the furler. I’m only 200 miles away from my winter location- do I need to deal with this issue now? How difficult is it to take the gearbox off and replace the bearing? The boat is from 2016 so hopefully I don’t have the problem with the seized shaft which has been the topic of lots of discussions on this forum. Many thanks for any thoughts.
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Re: Fresh water pump connector
Alex, I believe something has changed since this left the Amel yard. The white plastic piece has been added. Refer to page 58 of your 54 Users Manual. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Sep 30, 2019, 10:03 AM Alexander Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...> wrote: Dear Amelians,
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Re: Rudder seal
Beaute Olivier
Hello Paul, no it's not OK to replace the packing material while the boat is afloat. You would then have a strong water ingress while you're working for installing the new stuff. Do it while you do a new anti-fouling, unless you can't wait because you see alot of water coming in and the nylon nut is already all the way in. Then no other option than hauling-out. Good luck. Olivier
On Tuesday, October 1, 2019, 06:47:50 PM GMT+2, Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
Hi Mark, thank you very much and roger that, I have now tightened it as your information but about a 1/2 turn as it was leaking a lot. So if I do need to replace the packing material I’m guessing you remove the nut to do this and this is ok while the boat is in the water? Kind Regards Paul
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Re: Rudder seal
Hi Mark, thank you very much and roger that, I have now tightened it as your information but about a 1/2 turn as it was leaking a lot.
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So if I do need to replace the packing material I’m guessing you remove the nut to do this and this is ok while the boat is in the water? Kind Regards Paul
On 1 Oct 2019, at 6:22 pm, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
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Re: Rudder seal
Mark McGovern
Paul,
In the Super Maramu there is a large nut at the top of the post. You tighten it by turning it clockwise looking at it from above. The general recommendation is to turn it 1/6 of a turn at a time and then wait and check for leaks. Continue this process until the leak stops. If it does not ever stop you will need to replace the packing material. -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Rudder seal
hello all,
i am inquiring for some assistance please there is a fair amount of sea water entering the rudder steering compartment, it’s likely I think via the rudder seal. can you please advise the best approach to seal this correctly: would i tighten the rudder nut clockwise or anticlockwise and is it likely new seals are required and what may the process be to replace and maintain this item? thank you in advance for any assistance kind regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17
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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
Well, we just weren't certain that we would actually be able to return to the Annapolis area in time for anything, but the good part of having been chased away from Nova Scotia by a hurricane is that our timing worked out after all.
That, and the new grandbaby factor worked out just right. Adagio is in Galesville and we are planning on getting plugged in to as many events as we can. Between the boat show itself, Amel owner events, OCC and SSCA events and catching up.with local friends October is promising to be a very busy month indeed! I don't think we will bring Adagio to the Annapolis anchorage but rather will stay on the dock here in Galesville and drive up. Of course, we'd love to host a couple of "soon-to-be" or "olde-time" friends aboard but I don't think we can do a 'party' or 'gathering' thing this far away from the show. We could definitely arrange for afternoon or evening visits tho. Now, it's time re-read all the posts about the goings-on of the Amel crowd and see what we can attend! .. (should someone warn the authorities about all this? :) ) It's good to be back in 'home' waters and I look forward to getting connected/re-connected when the chance occurs! Gary W. SM209, Adagio Galesville, MD
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Re: Cabin sole revarnish
Miles,
We used Waterlox on a 40 year old cabin sole with beautiful results. https://www.waterlox.com/marine An big advantage is that you can re-coat at any time to build the finish, fix a problem spot, or give a refresh. Good luck! Denise s/v CARA SM #440 Chesapeake Bay
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Re: Volvo TMD22 Timing Belt
Just had ours replaced in Martinique by Didier at Amel. Both pulleys came with the kit and I was given the old parts for inspection.
While the timing belt did show some signs of wear it was still in good shape and the pulleys seemed to be perfect; smooth and easy to turn. Still, it was a good call to replace them as now there is one less potential problem. The motor is coming up on 6,000 hrs now and is still operating flawlessly. (Starter Motor notwithstanding:) ) Gary W. SM 209, Adagio Galesville, MD USA
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Re: Antifouling for the Mediterranean
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Tony;
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Please give my regards to Alex. He is a conscientious worker. You will not be disappointed. Also ask him for some “Cow’s wee wee”. He will let you know where and how to use it. Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:10 AM, tony wells via Groups.Io <tony.wells@...> wrote:
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Davits & solar panels
David Crisp
Hi All,
I'm fitting davits and ~900W of solar panels to an Amel 54. I've had the good fortune to be able to pick up a pair of secondhand Simpson S300 electric davits (SWG 300kg). My contractor here in France has reasonable experience of Amels and is proposing to mount the solar panels directly on top of the davits - i.e. the davits will take 100% of the load.
With a Highfield 290 RIB (aluminium) plus Honda 15HP OB I estimate the total weight of dinghy, motor, misc, solar panels will come in well under 300kg - the rating of the davits. I'm not an engineer, so please excuse this if it's a bit dumb, but I'm a little nervous about placing all that load on the base of the davits/hull. Specifically, whilst clearly the davits will take the load it's more where they are mounted on the stern of the boat I'm bothered about. At the risk of falling foul of "don't buy a dog and then bark yourself" I'm wanting to validate the opinion of my expert'. Bottom line it is my boat and my responsibility. So.... any experience others have had or comments?
Scott, SY Tengah, I notice you built quite a complex structure on Tengah. You've got a couple of uprights going directly onto the hull as well as a couple onto the davits. Was this because of something you learned, the yard not being quite so knowledgeable or maybe because your davits have a lower SWG rating? Best, David SY Wilna Grace
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Re: Antifouling for the Mediterranean
tony wells
Bill - I met with Alex this morning - he was flattered by your praise and sends his regards to you and Judy! And also to Guillaume & Cathy and Mohammad & Aty. Tony A54 #102 Balthazar, Manoel Island, Malta
On 30 Sep 2019, at 18:21, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Antifouling for the Mediterranean
Gerhard Mueller
It depends heavely on the area in the Mediterranean where the boat stays. Two years in Monastir, Tunisia the boat looks like this:
With same antifouling paint I am now 2 years in Malta and Greece and still there is nothing seen on the hull. But there is also no fish and no seafood available neither in Malta nor in Greece. However in Monastir, Tunisia there was plenty fish and seafood at the market and in the restaurants. -- Gerhard Mueller Amel Sharki #60 Currently Kalamata, Greece
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Re: Headsail furler issues
Adam Body
Hello again: there are three main wires to the headsail furling motor on Flora. Two of these are connected by normal threaded post connection and the third is simply hard connected to the internals of the motor. My question is..what is the purpose of this third connection?
-- Adam Body "Flora" SM128 Annee 1994
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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
Charles Bell
Hello Mike, I would like to RSVP for your maintenance forum at the show. Please let me know when and where! Thank you, Charles SV Saturn Mango #29
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Re: Headsail furler issues
Adam Body
Yep: good idea!...hopefully we will get down to the Flora over the next few days and will do as you suggest, Vladimir
-- Adam Body "Flora" SM128 Annee 1994
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