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Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine
 

This would be really useful,

Thank you so much ūüėÄūüėÄ

Sarah & Trev

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 12:29 Aras Grinius, <aras.grinius@...> wrote:
I actually have a schematic of a holding tank designed by Amel.  When I get home from work, I would gladly post it .  The tank should fit both Sharki's & Maramu's since the forward head are about the same dimensions.

Aras
S/V FIASCO
Sharki #163 1988

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:18 PM Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine <Ourbigboatyadventure@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

We're in the process of buying a 1985 Amel Maramu & were surprised to find there is no holding tank on it. 

Has anyone installed one in a Maramu? Did you do it yourselves or get a professional?  We're looking at costs, in the water or (I'm presuming it needs to be done whilst out of the water for a through hull)?

Any information or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah & Trev 
Sea Love, Hull 161



--
Aras Grinius


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Aras Grinius
 

I actually have a schematic of a holding tank designed by Amel.  When I get home from work, I would gladly post it .  The tank should fit both Sharki's & Maramu's since the forward head are about the same dimensions.

Aras
S/V FIASCO
Sharki #163 1988


On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 12:18 PM Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine <Ourbigboatyadventure@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

We're in the process of buying a 1985 Amel Maramu & were surprised to find there is no holding tank on it. 

Has anyone installed one in a Maramu? Did you do it yourselves or get a professional?  We're looking at costs, in the water or (I'm presuming it needs to be done whilst out of the water for a through hull)?

Any information or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah & Trev 
Sea Love, Hull 161



--
Aras Grinius


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine
 

Hi Jim,

We'd be interested in seeing the pictures if that's possible.  You can use the email address at the top to send anything through to. 

If there's a lot we can share a folder on Dropbox.

Thank you for your help, its really appreciated.

Kind regards,

Sarah & Trev

On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, 18:21 James Watkins via groups.io, <ewatk49734=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
It required removing nearly
All of the forward head trim. A plastic unit that fit behind the panels which were replaced. I think I may
Have some
Pictures and will try
To find them

Best regards
Jim Watkins
Ps. Probably best to do this on direct email feather than the forum unless
Others are interested. 



Sent from Yahoo for iPhone

On Monday, January 11, 2021, 7:13 PM, Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine <Ourbigboatyadventure@...> wrote:

Hi James,

Ahhh, no the boat is in the UK & we're currently in Portugal.  

Can I ask if it was timely, costly, and/or involved ripping the boat apart?  

We're heading back to the UK & will be living on board, so wondering how much of a headache it would be.

Thanks,

Sarah 

Sea Love, Hull 161

On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, 17:30 James Watkins via groups.io, <ewatk49734=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have Maramu hull 185 and while there was no holding tank in the forward head there was one in the aft head.  I had it done by a knowledgeable Amel person and can recommend hs contact.  I assume you are in the US?  

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Owner Act II Maramu hull 185

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:18 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

 

Hi everyone,

 

We're in the process of buying a 1985 Amel Maramu & were surprised to find there is no holding tank on it. 

 

Has anyone installed one in a Maramu? Did you do it yourselves or get a professional?  We're looking at costs, in the water or (I'm presuming it needs to be done whilst out of the water for a through hull)?

 

Any information or advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Sarah & Trev 

Sea Love, Hull 161


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine
 

Thanks for the information Ian.  Thats interesting to know that you can have them installed without ripping the heads apart.

Kind regards,

Sarah 

On Tue, 12 Jan 2021, 08:36 Ian Park, <parkianj@...> wrote:
We have a holding tank in both heads, around 75 litres each. They were fitted by the first owner when the boat was fairly new. Go to photos and search Santorin holding tanks and you will see the installation there. 
I am not familiar with the interior of the Maramu, but the Santorin looks the same as the Super Maramu. We've lost the clothes hanging drying area as the tanks fit that space and the pipework does fill most of the alert side storage areas. The tanks are visible but not unsightly. The pros are that all maintenance is easy, access to valves, macerator pump tank interior access ( not pleasant but useful!) and of course the tank level reader.
I haven't spotted it yet, but somewhere there is a schematic of the pipework and tank dimensions.

In my previous boat I had stainless steel tanks. Avoid s/s for holding tanks!!

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96 North Wales (UK!)


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Ian Park
 

We have a holding tank in both heads, around 75 litres each. They were fitted by the first owner when the boat was fairly new. Go to photos and search Santorin holding tanks and you will see the installation there. 
I am not familiar with the interior of the Maramu, but the Santorin looks the same as the Super Maramu. We've lost the clothes hanging drying area as the tanks fit that space and the pipework does fill most of the alert side storage areas. The tanks are visible but not unsightly. The pros are that all maintenance is easy, access to valves, macerator pump tank interior access ( not pleasant but useful!) and of course the tank level reader.
I haven't spotted it yet, but somewhere there is a schematic of the pipework and tank dimensions.

In my previous boat I had stainless steel tanks. Avoid s/s for holding tanks!!

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96 North Wales (UK!)


Re: Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

Ken Powers SV Aquarius
 

Thanks ALL,

I will be heading back to Lithuania in a few weeks, and will try to contact him from there.  If not I am going to try to find the closest pump and retrofit!

All the best!

Ken
Aquarius SM2K262


Re: Antigua riggers

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Nick,
That you've got a spare with you suggests you can easily do this yourself. With a couple of dock-mates you can likely do it in half a day - it is not rocket science. There are several posts on this DB, including from the big "OB" about how to do this - don't forget the split cylindrical Delrin spacer you'll encounter when you dissemble it. Get a small tub of grease and have fun!
-- Craig,
SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Andy Croney
 

ÔĽŅHi Sarah , hi Trev,

We have an older Maramu (#79) and installed a holding tank in the forward head - the boat does not need go come out of the water for this work , as it uses the same sea cock with a Y valve fitting - all the other necessary holes ( breather and pump out ) are above water .

I can send you some images if you want.

They are great boats for cruising and voyaging .

All the best

Andy and Fifi
SV Paladin
Sent from my iPhone


Re: Standing rigging

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Bernd,
This is one of those questions that sits on the border of engineering and philosophy, with no clear winner. Much like "What is the "best" anchor". I'd encourage you to read the many past posts on this discussion board and make up your own mind. There are too many variables for anyone to give you a definitive answer and those who do are often not unbiased, like the insurance company who wants 7 years so they reduce their risk of a claim - or a rigger who will profit from you replacing now.
Your SN #119 is maybe a year or two younger than my 1992 SN #68. I had a mizzen aft lower break in 2010 on a power reach flying the foc d'artimon. That was at 18 years old and after about 25,000 miles of passage-making.  I repaired it but then replaced all the next year - an easy do-it-yourself-in-the-water job for about $5000 from ACMO, duplicating the original (except for right-hand, not left-hand turn-buckles (bottle-screws)). So my "new" rig is now 10 years old, but my sailing is now pretty much just a couple of thousand miles of coastal/near-offshore cruising a year, my insurer doesn't have any requirements and I certainly won't be getting new any time soon.
So, how old is your rig; where has the boat been sailed (tropics vs. cooler climes); how hard has she been sailed; what is your personal risk tolerance; are you comfortable and capable sailing with a spare shroud should one fail; are you doing weekend sailing from a marina, or seasonal coastal cruising; perhaps a slow circumnavigation; or maybe the Vendee Globe? 
Hope this helps your decision process.
-- Cheers, Craig, SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Alain Blanchard
 

ÔĽŅHello Sarah & Trevor,

I Just acquired a SM from 1995. There was no holding tank installed. I am currently in the process Of installing one based on a tuto (here attached)


Mine is the same but a 85 L. Here is a picture 

It just fit in (47.5 cm large).
I will come back to you if any issue 



Regards Alain
SM 146 - Gruissan (France)

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 11 janv. 2021 à 19:21, James Watkins via groups.io <ewatk49734@...> a écrit :

ÔĽŅ It required removing nearly
All of the forward head trim. A plastic unit that fit behind the panels which were replaced. I think I may
Have some
Pictures and will try
To find them

Best regards
Jim Watkins
Ps. Probably best to do this on direct email feather than the forum unless
Others are interested. 



Sent from Yahoo for iPhone

On Monday, January 11, 2021, 7:13 PM, Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine <Ourbigboatyadventure@...> wrote:

Hi James,

Ahhh, no the boat is in the UK & we're currently in Portugal.  

Can I ask if it was timely, costly, and/or involved ripping the boat apart?  

We're heading back to the UK & will be living on board, so wondering how much of a headache it would be.

Thanks,

Sarah 

Sea Love, Hull 161

On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, 17:30 James Watkins via groups.io, <ewatk49734=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have Maramu hull 185 and while there was no holding tank in the forward head there was one in the aft head.  I had it done by a knowledgeable Amel person and can recommend hs contact.  I assume you are in the US?  

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Owner Act II Maramu hull 185

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:18 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

 

Hi everyone,

 

We're in the process of buying a 1985 Amel Maramu & were surprised to find there is no holding tank on it. 

 

Has anyone installed one in a Maramu? Did you do it yourselves or get a professional?  We're looking at costs, in the water or (I'm presuming it needs to be done whilst out of the water for a through hull)?

 

Any information or advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Sarah & Trev 

Sea Love, Hull 161


Re: Antigua riggers

 

Nick,

There are options in Antigua, but none in the entire Caribbean are better than Caraibe Marine Greement (Rigging) in Martinique. They are a Preferred Vendor and have rerigged at least 50 SMs & 54s that I am aware of.
Contact: 
Ga√ętan RIVET
+596 ( 0 ) 696 41 56 42
gaetan@...

contact@...  
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 2:46 PM Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi, can anyone please recommend a rigger here in Antigua who has experience in replacing a forestay on my SM please?

I have the ACMO forestay with me, but looking for someone who has done this successfully here in Antigua

many thanks 


Antigua riggers

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal
 

Hi, can anyone please recommend a rigger here in Antigua who has experience in replacing a forestay on my SM please?

I have the ACMO forestay with me, but looking for someone who has done this successfully here in Antigua

many thanks 


Re: Onan group on SM number 32

 

Juan,

Over the years of production, some Onan generators have Normally Closed (NC) sensors and other Onans have Normally Open sensors (NO). Just because some other Super Maramu had NC sensors does not mean that your SM has the same. Attached is a page from my Amel Book that explains some of this.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:03 PM Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Hi Kent,

Thanks for your advise.
Next time my Onan will shut down i will try to short circuit the exhaust sensor or the coolant sensor to identify the origin of the pb. 

Best regards

Juan de Zulueta
Ophelie X
SM 32

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 11 janv. 2021 à 14:53, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> a écrit :

ÔĽŅ
Hi Juan,
Thank you for answering my post about transmission .
I had a similar issue with my ONAN shutting down and found that the sensor on the exhaust elbow was faulty.  I had a spare and was back underway in a short time.  Some Onans have a normally closed temp switch that opens when the temp is too high. If you have that kind, and don't have a spare, short the two sensor wires and it should start.  If you have the normally open switch that closed when the temp gets too high, you can disconnect the sensor and it should start.
  In either case, regularly check the temps at your oil filter and exhaust whenever running it until you can get a replacement.

Hope that's the problem on your Onan, easy fix.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Onan group on SM number 32

Juan de Zulueta
 

Hi Kent,

Thanks for your advise.
Next time my Onan will shut down i will try to short circuit the exhaust sensor or the coolant sensor to identify the origin of the pb. 

Best regards

Juan de Zulueta
Ophelie X
SM 32

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 11 janv. 2021 à 14:53, karkauai via groups.io <karkauai@...> a écrit :

ÔĽŅ
Hi Juan,
Thank you for answering my post about transmission .
I had a similar issue with my ONAN shutting down and found that the sensor on the exhaust elbow was faulty.  I had a spare and was back underway in a short time.  Some Onans have a normally closed temp switch that opens when the temp is too high. If you have that kind, and don't have a spare, short the two sensor wires and it should start.  If you have the normally open switch that closed when the temp gets too high, you can disconnect the sensor and it should start.
  In either case, regularly check the temps at your oil filter and exhaust whenever running it until you can get a replacement.

Hope that's the problem on your Onan, easy fix.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Onan group on SM number 32

karkauai
 

Hi Juan,
Thank you for answering my post about transmission .
I had a similar issue with my ONAN shutting down and found that the sensor on the exhaust elbow was faulty.  I had a spare and was back underway in a short time.  Some Onans have a normally closed temp switch that opens when the temp is too high. If you have that kind, and don't have a spare, short the two sensor wires and it should start.  If you have the normally open switch that closed when the temp gets too high, you can disconnect the sensor and it should start.
  In either case, regularly check the temps at your oil filter and exhaust whenever running it until you can get a replacement.

Hope that's the problem on your Onan, easy fix.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

James Watkins
 

It required removing nearly
All of the forward head trim. A plastic unit that fit behind the panels which were replaced. I think I may
Have some
Pictures and will try
To find them

Best regards
Jim Watkins
Ps. Probably best to do this on direct email feather than the forum unless
Others are interested. 

On Monday, January 11, 2021, 7:13 PM, Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine <Ourbigboatyadventure@...> wrote:

Hi James,

Ahhh, no the boat is in the UK & we're currently in Portugal.  

Can I ask if it was timely, costly, and/or involved ripping the boat apart?  

We're heading back to the UK & will be living on board, so wondering how much of a headache it would be.

Thanks,

Sarah 

Sea Love, Hull 161

On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, 17:30 James Watkins via groups.io, <ewatk49734=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have Maramu hull 185 and while there was no holding tank in the forward head there was one in the aft head.  I had it done by a knowledgeable Amel person and can recommend hs contact.  I assume you are in the US?  

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Owner Act II Maramu hull 185

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:18 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

 

Hi everyone,

 

We're in the process of buying a 1985 Amel Maramu & were surprised to find there is no holding tank on it. 

 

Has anyone installed one in a Maramu? Did you do it yourselves or get a professional?  We're looking at costs, in the water or (I'm presuming it needs to be done whilst out of the water for a through hull)?

 

Any information or advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Sarah & Trev 

Sea Love, Hull 161


Re: Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

 

I have purchased parts from him in the past but had a German owner contact him for me. He is a dealer/repair shop and has limited parts. Your email matches the one I have and I also have this:
Gerhard Huber

Ersatzteilverkauf
Schabauer Service & Vertrieb GmbH
IZ N√Ė S√ľd, Str. 2a, Obj.M39/1
A-2355 Wr. Neudorf

Tel.:  02236 8120 73

Fax.: 02236 8120 14

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 11:05 AM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Hi Kenneth,

 

Please be sure to post your findings. Our evacuation pump causes the breaker to pop. Otherwise, the dishwasher still works. I would like to get this operational again since we used it often while on anchor.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ken Powers SV Aquarius
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 7:50 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher Parts

 

All,

I have a Eumenia Mini 5500 Dishwasher, and would like keep Aquarius stock.  But, need to get spare parts for the dishwasher.  I have emailed ersatzteile@schabauer-service dot at , but have not received a response.  The evacuation pump is out, and might try to find a replacement which is similar if I can not get the exact replacement.

Any thoughts on what I should do.

Thanks!

Kenneth Powers
Aquarius sm2k262


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine
 

Hi James,

Ahhh, no the boat is in the UK & we're currently in Portugal.  

Can I ask if it was timely, costly, and/or involved ripping the boat apart?  

We're heading back to the UK & will be living on board, so wondering how much of a headache it would be.

Thanks,

Sarah 

Sea Love, Hull 161

On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, 17:30 James Watkins via groups.io, <ewatk49734=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have Maramu hull 185 and while there was no holding tank in the forward head there was one in the aft head.  I had it done by a knowledgeable Amel person and can recommend hs contact.  I assume you are in the US?  

 

Best Regards

Jim Watkins

Owner Act II Maramu hull 185

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2021 6:18 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

 

Hi everyone,

 

We're in the process of buying a 1985 Amel Maramu & were surprised to find there is no holding tank on it. 

 

Has anyone installed one in a Maramu? Did you do it yourselves or get a professional?  We're looking at costs, in the water or (I'm presuming it needs to be done whilst out of the water for a through hull)?

 

Any information or advice would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Sarah & Trev 

Sea Love, Hull 161


Re: Heater

Karen Smith
 

Paul,

Our boat came to us equipped with reverse cycle air conditioning units.  They work well keeping the boat comfortable down to about 0C. Something to be aware of with this kind of unit, it that it does not work when the water temperatures drop below about 5C.  They are quite energy efficient, actually using a bit less power than they do when cooling.  They each deliver about 2,000 Watts of heat while using a bit less than 900 Watts of electricity.

Amel also equipped our boat with resistance heaters, one in each cabin.  They draw a lot of power, if they were all running about 20 Amps, more than the shore power connection could support.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
The boat is in Charleston, we are finishing up a delivery job in Jolly Harbor, Antigua


Re: Installing a holding tank Amel Maramu

Dennis Johns
 

Hello Sarah & Trevor,

I have a 35 gallon holding tank installed in the port/aft cockpit lazarette (pretty sure you'll need to get it custom made).  Here are a couple of hints:
1)  I have runs from the forward and aft heads done in PVC.  Using a few 22 degree fittings, it is not too difficult to make the runs and you will never need to replace the very expensive "sanitary" hose when the stink becomes too much.  While you are at it, I suggest you run PVC in the anti-siphon loop as well.  These two actions will keep your heads and saloon from becoming an embarrassment.
2)  If you can heel the boat over in a slip (mast halyard to a cleat), the thru hull can be installed just above the water line.
3)  Be sure to install the macerator at the level of the drain.  Don't make the macerator draw the waste up from the bottom of the tank as it will quit on you before its time and replacing it is not fun if you aren't near a clean out station (ask me how I know this).
4)  Don't be cheap on the deck clean out cap.  The plastic cap will be exposed to UV rays for long periods of time and eventually will degrade to the point where you have to break it to do a clean out.

Good Luck

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu #121

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:18 AM Sarah & Trevor McIlwaine <Ourbigboatyadventure@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

We're in the process of buying a 1985 Amel Maramu & were surprised to find there is no holding tank on it. 

Has anyone installed one in a Maramu? Did you do it yourselves or get a professional?  We're looking at costs, in the water or (I'm presuming it needs to be done whilst out of the water for a through hull)?

Any information or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Sarah & Trev 
Sea Love, Hull 161

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