Re: Lithium and the "first mover" dilemma
Mark McGovern
Tom,
You are not alone in your trepidation as to when to pull the trigger on LiFePO4. I am right there with you. I have read the posts from Scott (Tengah), Paul (Fortuna II), Thomas (Garulfo) and Peregrinus with rapt interest. Thank you all for sharing the details of your setups and your experiences. It has been truly invaluable. I have also consumed as much information as I can about the technology outside of this forum. Thankfully, I somewhat forced myself into waiting a few years to make the switch. Right after I purchased Cara about 2 years ago I found that I needed to replace the entire bank of 12 batteries. At the time the whole boat was new to me and I had so much else to learn about that I knew I was not ready to commit the time, energy, and $$$ necessary to research, learn, and install a whole new electrical generating/storing/inverting system. So I purchased twelve inexpensive Deka Marine Master DC31DT wet cell lead acid batteries for a whopping total of ~$1500. This relatively minor but not inconsequential investment forced me to wait and bought me some time to research and learn. Thanks to the help of the guys above and others sharing their experiences here and other places I think I will be ready when the time comes to replace my reliable wet cell lead acid dinosaurs in a few more years. I really can't wait - but I will. -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Why has the Amel 54 no boom vang?
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Arno;
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I have my own assumptions as to why the 54 does not have a vang but do not know the exact reason why Amel chose not install one.
As far as usage, we typically rig a preventer that has lines running back to the cockpit and use the secondary winches to adjust the preventer from the cockpit and therefore eliminate the need for some one going out on deck. This gives us full sail shape
control even with the boom sheeted out past the end of the traveler. Respectfully;
Mohammad And Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099
On Sep 25, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Arno Luijten via Groups.Io <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
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Re: OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars
sbmesasailor
Miles, I delivered the entire car assembly to the machine shop, explained how it was supposed to work and they machined a new pin and disk which worked perfectly. (actually I could have several made for the same price, so I did). Dennis
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Re: Bow thruster seals
Bob,
I'm pretty sure Danny is referring to the 60mm x 80mm x 12mm lip seal for the Bowthruster tube, not the one for the Bowthruster propeller. This one: -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Lithium and the "first mover" dilemma
Hi Tom,
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I can share my experience using the Mastervolt MLI Ultra 24/5000 x4 = 720ah and the range of MV chargers, including MV solar charger and MV management system on board Fortuna for the past 5 years, I have found it to be an truly amazing experience after owning 5 other vessels over the last 16 years and 100% reliable. Also with the support from mastervolt providing peace of mind and as they have suggested the batteries could last 20+ years by their account with ample cycles specified, If this is to be the case I expect it to be a most realistic and worth while investment compared to previous technology and the most economic outlay long term. I would suggest you should consider speaking with a reliable mastervolt technician and ask questions. All the best Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17
On 25 Sep 2019, at 6:06 pm, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
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Re: Bow thruster seals
rossirossix4
Hi Danny,
I've wondered about this. How do you spot water in the bow thruster? Bob, KAIMI SM 429 Flashback: Years ago (12?) our Santorin we were anchored near Ocean Pearl outside the Annapolis boat show. Earlier I had mentioned that we always leave a note with our names and cell phone numbers near our helm. Got a call from Danny as we were headed to our dingy from the show....a Pinky Schooner was on a rope rode and wandering around smacking into boats.....Danny had remembered this and located our number and called us. The schooner had bent our lifeline tubing but we were able to prevent another attack (with his help) and warn other boats! We've always left our number in the cockpit--actually had a plastic placard made up-- AND we use magic marker to put our cell numbers on the dingy transom.
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Lithium and the "first mover" dilemma
Thomas Kleman
I've read with great interest the insightful posts of the group on this topic. Like most Amelians, I envision L'ORIENT (SM2K 422) with a lithium battery system in the future. But when ? This space seems to be still evolving and the costs of conversion are intimidating. A few recent posts included conversion costs (others have not). More than $20k is the placeholder I keep in my head. And the missing data point in all these impressive technical posts is the 600 pound gorilla in the room....how long does all this stuff last ? While saving fuel and running A/C off batteries is mind blowing stuff, $20k buys 8 lead acid battery banks (of 12 each). The health of the lithium batteries seems to depend on quite a bit of peripheral technology and there are undeniably some unknowns out there that impact this question. I'm sure the tone of the very comprehensive "one year out" update would change if the batteries failed in 4 years. Anyway, I would count myself in the group wanting to be a late adopter vs a last adopter. Wondering how others perceive this ?
Tom and Kirstin SV L'ORIENT SM2K 422 Bocas del Toro Panama
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Why has the Amel 54 no boom vang?
Dear forum,
Our Amel 54 is the first sailboat we own that lacks a boom vang. Why is this? I notice the A55 and the A64 both do have a vang and I think I've seen some SMs with a vang as well. How do you limit excessive twist in the main at broad reach. Rigging a preventer may be a way to do this by seems to be unpractical as you will need to adjust it in combination with the main sheet making that almost a two person job. Regards, Arno Luijten SV Luna, A54-121
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Re: Canvas work in Eastern Med
Nathalie Schyler & Bruno Moller <br1moller@...>
Hello everybody
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We are new to the Group, sailing this Autumn with our Super Maramu “Galatea” from Rome to Sicily.This is our first post in the group. Oliver , we made our winter enclosure two years ago near Barcelona, Spain.We are happy with work done by FUNDAS MAREMAR at El Masnau. Attached some photographs hoping there are of help. Best Regards Nathalie & Bruno SY GALATEA
On 24 Sep 2019, at 10:18, Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica <oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote: We r just going to build a winter enclosure. Any hints that we should care for? Do you have some fotos? Oliver A54#39 Portugal Sent from my Huawei Mobile -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Canvas work in Eastern Med From: Davi Rozgonyi To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io CC:
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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
Patrick McAneny
Aras, We have 17 people at our table for 16 ,but I would think you could reserve a table next to us. There may be others that may want to join you as well. Certainly is a lot of Amels on the Bay this time of the year !
See Ya There,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: Aras Grinius <svfiasco@...> To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Wed, Sep 25, 2019 7:34 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show Is it too late for dinner? Vickers and I would to join you.
Aras & Vickers
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Aras Grinius
SV FIASCO
Sharki #163
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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
Aras Grinius
Is it too late for dinner? Vickers and I would to join you.
Aras & Vickers -- Aras Grinius SV FIASCO Sharki #163
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Jose--- Bow thruster seals
eric freedman
Hi Jose,
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Please send me your email address to Kimberlite@optonline.net Thanks Eric
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 10:07 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bow thruster seals Hi Danny, Good luck with your seal. It could have been a bad seal but it is also possible that the shaft is no longer lined up and over time the seals get deformed and looses its lip tension. At one point even new seals will not be able to adapt to the lack of alignment and begin to leak soon after installed. Jose Ipanema SM2K 278 Boston
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Re: Bow thruster seals
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Jose,
This is probably the third time in 11 years I have done an in water, between haul-out lip seal replacement. Just routine. As soon as I see a trace of water I act. Hasn't happened too often and I don't expect any problems this time. If so I know who to contact. Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl Enjoying Fiji
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Re: Bow thruster seals
Jose Venegas
Hi Danny,
Good luck with your seal. It could have been a bad seal but it is also possible that the shaft is no longer lined up and over time the seals get deformed and looses its lip tension. At one point even new seals will not be able to adapt to the lack of alignment and begin to leak soon after installed. Jose Ipanema SM2K 278 Boston
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New file uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
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Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io group. File: Stella Instrumentation Diagram Original1.0.pdf Uploaded By: SY STELLA Description: You can access this file at the URL: Cheers,
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New file uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
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Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io group. File: Stella Instrumentation Diagram April 2019 1.0.pdf Uploaded By: SY STELLA Description: You can access this file at the URL: Cheers,
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Re: OG Maramu Mizzen Sheet Cars
smiles bernard
I have also taken this approach with a machine shop
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Interested to know how people approached it as originally if was an interference fit How did you reassemble the disk onto the pin? As a temp measure I used a 8 or 10mm (can’t remember which) Cotter pin Worked well and easy to lift from above. All the best Miles 162 uk
On 18 Sep 2019, at 16:10, Gerhard Mueller via Groups.Io <carcode@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Sharki roller furler Swivel Mizzen mast
Tom Whitehill
Hi Tom,
You mention "Getting them (the swivels) out of the mast is the work". I'm at this point. Would you kindly describe the steps you took to remove the pinion as that appears to be the final obstacle? Also, did you have any significant difficulties getting the gears back in? Thanks, Tom Whitehill Sharki #123
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Re: Mast hight A54
Yes, but in my experience the 20 meter standard cable length is not quite long enough to get to the B&G junction box, and there is very little difference in the 213 Masthead Mount with 20m of cable versus 25m. Each length is standard. Occasionally it is the mount and cable that needs replacing because the mount cracks and allows water to migrate inside. Most of the time it is a replaceable component in the 213MHU.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:49 AM Beaute Olivier via Groups.Io <atlanticyachtsurvey=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Mast hight A54
Beaute Olivier
Hi Oliver, the AMEL 54 main mast length is 18.50 m. Olivier
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, 03:27:05 PM GMT+2, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Oliver, The transducer is a B&G 213MHU and is available from https://www.aandtinstruments.com/ The transducer is repairable and parts are available The transducer is connected to the B&G 213 Mount which comes with either 20 or 25 meter cable. You will need the 25 meter wire with the 213MHU. Email "Sarah Covey" <sarah@...> -- --
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 5:25 AM Oliver Henrichsen, SV Vela Nautica <oliver.henrichsen@...> wrote: Hello,
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