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Re: Insurance carriers

Matt Salatino
 

Sorry to jump in on this thread....
We are taking possession of our Amel 50 in Sept.
We are searching for insurance now.
USA flagged, but cruising the Iberian Peninsula and the Med.
Thanks in advance...

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 8, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Mike,

 

I am assuming you are USA flagged?

 

I spent a lot of time on insurance after Pantaenius USA changed their Caribbean policy requirements to a point where it was just about impossible to comply.

 

If you are not planning on being anywhere near the Caribe during the season, try talking to Scott:

 

Scott Stusek | Vice President

 

PANTAENIUS America Ltd.

500 Mamaroneck Avenue |Harrison, NY 10528 | United States of America

Tel. 443-569-7995 | Fax. 443-569-7996 | Cell 914-217-7991 sstusek@pantaenius.com | www.pantaenius.us

 

 

Another option that may work for you is an awesome company called Novamar. It is an A-Rated insurance company with a really easy to understand policy. The contact is Chris. He is an independent agency who writes a lot of policies for Novamar.

 

Chris Boome Insurance Agency

LIC# 0A99058

751 Laurel Street #216

San Carlos, CA 94070

O: 650-517-3160  C: 650-464-0728

WWW.CHRISBOOME.COM

E-mail: chris@...

 

 

Both of the companies above will offer a stated value / declared value policies.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance carriers

 

Having been dropped by Travelers we are receiving quotes for coverage for East Coast US and Caribbean (not hurricane season). Age is apparently a factor in rates and Aletes is a 1998 hull. Received quote from IRSUS Inc./Aspen American Insurance Company for $4797 on hull value of $225,000 with 5% deductible. Does anyone have experience with this company?

Geico quote was $5808 with 4% deductible.

Thoughts?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Chesapeake Bay


Re: Insurance carriers

Mark Erdos
 

Mike,

 

I am assuming you are USA flagged?

 

I spent a lot of time on insurance after Pantaenius USA changed their Caribbean policy requirements to a point where it was just about impossible to comply.

 

If you are not planning on being anywhere near the Caribe during the season, try talking to Scott:

 

Scott Stusek | Vice President

 

PANTAENIUS America Ltd.

500 Mamaroneck Avenue |Harrison, NY 10528 | United States of America

Tel. 443-569-7995 | Fax. 443-569-7996 | Cell 914-217-7991 sstusek@pantaenius.com | www.pantaenius.us

 

 

Another option that may work for you is an awesome company called Novamar. It is an A-Rated insurance company with a really easy to understand policy. The contact is Chris. He is an independent agency who writes a lot of policies for Novamar.

 

Chris Boome Insurance Agency

LIC# 0A99058

751 Laurel Street #216

San Carlos, CA 94070

O: 650-517-3160  C: 650-464-0728

WWW.CHRISBOOME.COM

E-mail: chris@...

 

 

Both of the companies above will offer a stated value / declared value policies.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:42 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance carriers

 

Having been dropped by Travelers we are receiving quotes for coverage for East Coast US and Caribbean (not hurricane season). Age is apparently a factor in rates and Aletes is a 1998 hull. Received quote from IRSUS Inc./Aspen American Insurance Company for $4797 on hull value of $225,000 with 5% deductible. Does anyone have experience with this company?

Geico quote was $5808 with 4% deductible.

Thoughts?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Chesapeake Bay


Insurance carriers

Mike Ondra
 

Having been dropped by Travelers we are receiving quotes for coverage for East Coast US and Caribbean (not hurricane season). Age is apparently a factor in rates and Aletes is a 1998 hull. Received quote from IRSUS Inc./Aspen American Insurance Company for $4797 on hull value of $225,000 with 5% deductible. Does anyone have experience with this company?

Geico quote was $5808 with 4% deductible.

Thoughts?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Chesapeake Bay


Re: Genoa car springs

Matt Salatino
 

Good I f, thanks!

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:04 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:

Rico


Re: Did you catch 4 errors on the Delos series 205?

Matt Salatino
 

We are fans of Delos.
Have been watching them for a couple of years now.
The Amel was not really a relevant part of why we watched, though it is more interesting since we became Amelians....

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 8, 2019, at 10:00 AM, Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote:

I, for.one, have learned a few things from their videos.  Yes, I've spotted a few things along the way that made me say "oh, I could've helped you with (or prevent) that!" but by in large thwy handle the boat right.  
I agree with Bill that Delos is a great marketing tool but .. they are in business as a video production company first and as an Amelian second.  The benefits and spinoff srom their work can't be denied though!  

I do look forward to their episodes :)

Gary W.
SM 299, Adagio
Cape May, NJ (underway). 


Re: Deleware Bay --> Cape May anchorages

Gary Wells
 

Wolfgang,

Good to be hanging out with another Amel last night in Cape May.  Quite a.little squall last evening!
The smaller boat next to us drug back and the young couple were fighting the whole time; they must've been near hypothermic by the time.it was all over.

At any rate, wishing you a good sail and we'll wave when you pass us (again)!!

Cheers,

Gary and Robin
SM 209, Adagio
underway @ Atlantic City


Re: Amel is going lithium

Paul Brown
 

Hi Scott 

I do like your thinking and see you have muchbmore understanding than I.

I generally run my 720ah lithium MV down to around 30% before I top them up with the generator and usually only to about 50 or 60 %, maybe every 2 weeks I will charge to 100% when I’m making water or washing machine or aircon or all, otherwise I’m relaxed at anchor and keep them around 50%, the 550w 24v solar contributes to 75% of my general 24v/220 inverter power consumption 

How many cycles do you think I’ll get and how many years of life seeing the boat is wintered 6 months a year?

The MV technician said he would think 15 to 20 years total life, as they are relatively new technology they don’t really have those statistics but at a guess.

Regards Paul-Fortuna II 55#17


On 8 Aug 2019, at 2:31 pm, Scott SV Tengah <sv.tengah@...> wrote:

Nick,

When I run the WM, the Dessalator gauge reads well over 100 liters per hour but it appears a bit optimistic. I assume you're checking the dipstick prior to running it for one hour and then checking again after 1 hour of runtime? I am aware of the effect of salinity and temperature but I'm loathe to try to put it higher into the red in order to try to squeeze out some more output. I'd rather just keep it in the recommended green and run it a bit longer.

In any event, with respect to the battery charging routine, it's really just a math problem. I average a bit over 200 AH a day from my solar panels. I run two fridges and a freezer. I cook with induction. I use the electric kettle to make coffee. I use my laptop. Those uses are more or less fixed. With that usage and decent sun, the battery bank doesn't drop below 35% for days. The recommended/acceptable practice is to run it down to 20% SOC, but I get nervous at 30%. So I have 450*.7 = 315AH of usable capacity. Add in 200AH of solar output and I have 515AH per day to work with. We don't use that much per day so it lasts a few days.

Lately I've been trying to keep between 40-80% state of charge, if possible. That's the least stressful for the batteries and extends their life. I won't run the genset early in the day if I think solar will push the bank above 80% that day and I don't run high draw appliances if I'm near 40% without running the genset. I'll charge to 100% if I know it won't be staying there long - eg I may run the genset to charge to 100% before a full night of air conditioning on battery. Keeping a lithium bank at 100%, especially in high ambient temps, is not good for them.

I treat my batteries very well due to the initial cost. Most would simply take it to 20% and fire up the genset to take it to 100% without any other adjustments.  Even with that "abuse", they'll get 2000 cycles out of them. It's certainly simpler and I may be overthinking it, but I don't mind a bit of extra thinking to make them last a few thousand extra cycles.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Genoa car springs

Gary Silver
 

Hi Alan:  

A couple of thoughts:

1.  I highly recommend modifying the track so that you can remove the car easily by simply removing one bolt at the aft end of the track.  See my picture below on this, my prior post, and/or as shown in the video link posted above. 
2.  Once the car is removed (so you don't have penetrating oil dousing your gelcoat etc) and you can remove the PVC runners,  patiently apply penetrating oil (PB Blaster, Kroil, Mouse Milk or similar) to the recess / counter-bore into which the shaft seats.  Do this for  a period of days or even weeks.  You also might try heating the entire car (with the plastic parts removed) in an oven.  I probably wouldn't exceed 200 degrees F.  Periodically grip the shaft with the padded jaws of  Vice-Grip pliers and rotate, even if you don't perceive any movement this will assist the penetrating oil.   Sooner or later, with patience, the shaft should loosen and be removable.  If those measures don't work and you have access to dry ice, do the oven treatment then apply dry ice to the shaft only (thereby shrinking it dimensionally). 
3.  If you haven't already sourced the springs and/or runners, they are available from Euro Marine Trading (the USA Antal Dealer)  USA Phone #  401 849-0060  ,  62 Halsey Street, Unit M, Newport, RI  02840  USA

1.  Runner Inserts are G30, 40A PVC Inserts 160 ml long (US $ 18.45 per set of two in 2017)
2.  Stainless Steel Stand-Up Bracket Spring   part number Y-X1041 (US $ 7.86 each in 2019) 

I wish you luck,

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona    Amel SM 2000  Hull # 335
On the hard in Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico




Re: Did you catch 4 errors on the Delos series 205?

Gary Wells
 

I, for.one, have learned a few things from their videos.  Yes, I've spotted a few things along the way that made me say "oh, I could've helped you with (or prevent) that!" but by in large thwy handle the boat right.  
I agree with Bill that Delos is a great marketing tool but .. they are in business as a video production company first and as an Amelian second.  The benefits and spinoff srom their work can't be denied though!  

I do look forward to their episodes :)

Gary W.
SM 299, Adagio
Cape May, NJ (underway). 


Re: Amel is going lithium

Scott SV Tengah
 

Nick,

When I run the WM, the Dessalator gauge reads well over 100 liters per hour but it appears a bit optimistic. I assume you're checking the dipstick prior to running it for one hour and then checking again after 1 hour of runtime? I am aware of the effect of salinity and temperature but I'm loathe to try to put it higher into the red in order to try to squeeze out some more output. I'd rather just keep it in the recommended green and run it a bit longer.

In any event, with respect to the battery charging routine, it's really just a math problem. I average a bit over 200 AH a day from my solar panels. I run two fridges and a freezer. I cook with induction. I use the electric kettle to make coffee. I use my laptop. Those uses are more or less fixed. With that usage and decent sun, the battery bank doesn't drop below 35% for days. The recommended/acceptable practice is to run it down to 20% SOC, but I get nervous at 30%. So I have 450*.7 = 315AH of usable capacity. Add in 200AH of solar output and I have 515AH per day to work with. We don't use that much per day so it lasts a few days.

Lately I've been trying to keep between 40-80% state of charge, if possible. That's the least stressful for the batteries and extends their life. I won't run the genset early in the day if I think solar will push the bank above 80% that day and I don't run high draw appliances if I'm near 40% without running the genset. I'll charge to 100% if I know it won't be staying there long - eg I may run the genset to charge to 100% before a full night of air conditioning on battery. Keeping a lithium bank at 100%, especially in high ambient temps, is not good for them.

I treat my batteries very well due to the initial cost. Most would simply take it to 20% and fire up the genset to take it to 100% without any other adjustments.  Even with that "abuse", they'll get 2000 cycles out of them. It's certainly simpler and I may be overthinking it, but I don't mind a bit of extra thinking to make them last a few thousand extra cycles.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, watermaker?

Thomas Peacock
 

Pretty sure the Starbrite is good. Main ingredient should be propylene glycol. 
For engine and gen, we would close the engine room through-hull, then run engine while pouring pink stuff through the sea chest until you could see it coming out the exhaust. Same for gen. 
I would not want to guarantee, but the engine room does stay a little warmer as it is lower, and derives “heat” from the cold Scottish water. Some people augment this with a 100 watt incandescent bulb (if you can find one). 
As I recall, to totally antifreeze the engines, watermaker, and fresh water system, you might go through ten gallons. 
Not sure about the water maker tube, we never did it, watermaker was already asleep with metabi and glycerine. Our manual says to use 10 liters chlorine free water, 100 grams metabi, and 2 liters glycerine ( which provides the antifreeze property). I don’t know if the glycerine can pass through the membrane, it is a very small molecule, kind of like water by structure (OH-OH-OH). If so, that would also protect the tube. Pretty sure propylene glycol will not pass through. 

Tom Peacock
SM #240 Aletes
Chesapeake Bay US


On Aug 8, 2019, at 6:49 AM, SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark and Tom,
I’ve found the Starbrite Pink antifreeze online at Force4 chandlery in the UK. Good to -46C.
I think it’s probably the same product that you use, since it’s sold in US gallon containers.
How many gallons would you normally use? I presume you just use the same pink antifreeze for the engine and genset too?

Mark, may I assume that draining the tube is easy once I’ve removed the control panel from the bulkhead?
Any tricks there?

Also, do you use the manual flush lever/inlet to introduce the antifreeze, or do you run it through the seawater inlet?  I guess the latter is easier.

Many thanks once again
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154


Re: Update Timezero 4.0 for Furuno Navnet 3Duser

greg greg
 

Sheet happens :(


Re: AmelYachtOwners] ----Peter please take a look at the attached link--Storm tactics

Brian Riggs
 

Eric,

An excellent article. Thank you for sharing. The more I research and read, the more I'm inclined to reach for a JSD over a sea anchor.

Fair winds and following seas!

Brian Riggs
Future Amel Owner


Re: Wintering in potentially freezing conditions, watermaker?

Dean Gillies
 

Thanks Mark and Tom,
I’ve found the Starbrite Pink antifreeze online at Force4 chandlery in the UK. Good to -46C.
I think it’s probably the same product that you use, since it’s sold in US gallon containers.
How many gallons would you normally use? I presume you just use the same pink antifreeze for the engine and genset too?

Mark, may I assume that draining the tube is easy once I’ve removed the control panel from the bulkhead?
Any tricks there?

Also, do you use the manual flush lever/inlet to introduce the antifreeze, or do you run it through the seawater inlet?  I guess the latter is easier.

Many thanks once again
Dean
SY Stella
A54-154


Re: Genoa car springs

heinz@quetzal.berlin
 

I have at the end of the rail about 15 cm on each side cut off. This was the only way for me to remove the Traveler. Then it can be lifted off 

Heinz Quetzal sm2000, 292

Am 08.08.2019 um 10:27 schrieb Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...>:

So today I sawed through the cotter pin and removed the remnants...but that rod is firmly stuck. Tried the grip it and hit it technique, nothing
Others have suggested removing the car and soaking it in interesting solutions, or heat, or drilling out the aft end of the car and trying to knock it out.
We'll see, but for the moment it's not going anywhere!
Alan
Elyse 
SM437


Re: Genoa car springs

Alan Leslie
 

So today I sawed through the cotter pin and removed the remnants...but that rod is firmly stuck. Tried the grip it and hit it technique, nothing
Others have suggested removing the car and soaking it in interesting solutions, or heat, or drilling out the aft end of the car and trying to knock it out.
We'll see, but for the moment it's not going anywhere!
Alan
Elyse 
SM437


Re: Amel is going lithium

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Scott,

My Desalateur produces 160l per hour easily. Actually one should adjust the pressure to that effect as the water temperature and salinity effect output. So in the West Indies and Greece in summer     I have to keep the pressure just kissing green on the HP, if I set it at midway on the gauge it produces 180 litres. I think in colder water more pressure is required and in less saline water less pressure.

Coming back to Lithium. So what is your routine for charging the batteries? Assume bright sunshine.
Let’s assume:
You want hot water every day
You need to make 100 litres of water per day
You cook etc and run all fridges 
And do all the phone charging and laptop charging maybe watch TV for an hour etc etc....
Maybe do a load of laundry.
Just living at anchor

Nick
Amelia (54-019)
Preveza Greece





On 7 Aug 2019, at 23:09, Scott SV Tengah <sv.tengah@...> wrote:

Mark,

If you look at Dessalator specs you'll see that it does operate much more efficiently at 24v vs 220v.

https://www.dessalator.fr/en/products/price-list/

For my Duo100, operating at 220v uses nearly 60% more wattage than operating at 24v. Moreover, inverters aren't 100% efficient so I try to go 24v whenever possible.

BTW does your 160l/h actually produce 160l/h? The gauge on mine will show 100+ but measuring via the floating dipstick shows the tank is only getting 80l
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Antal Block and Dyneema loops

eric freedman
 

WD-40 is good for starting a diesel but for lubrication it is poor as it absorbs water. Inox does the same job and repels water.

To loosen up rusted in place things PB Blaster is far superior.

Here is a quote from their website.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 Blaster PB Penetrating Catalyst, which quickly breaks loose the surface tension of frozen parts and protects against further rust and corrosion

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Weber via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 9:34 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Antal Block and Dyneema loops

 

Hi Koko, 

Good to know, I will try after using WD40.

Thank you very much Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Storm tactics

eric freedman
 

Yes- the drogue was attached as per the article. That time unfortunately was not the first time were in near hurricane/ hurricane force winds

and had the JSD out.  We had it out for over 30 hours.

The drogue’s bridle when attached to the cleats falls between the mizzen backstays.

If I were to run the bridle outside of the backstays I was worried that I would lose the SSB antenna.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Champness
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 9:06 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Storm tactics

 

How did you have the drogue attached when you had that experience?  I'm trying to envision how the mizzen shrouds would be involved. 


Re: Cabin sole revarnishing

Matt Salatino
 

If you are refinishing down below, where there isn’t constant exposure to direct sunlight, polyurethane is a much better choice for cabin soles. It is much harder, more abrasion resistant. In any case, to get a good finish, the old stuff needs to come off.  A tough job, but made easier with a heat gun and metal scraper. Then a fine (220 grit) sand to flatten and smooth. Use a sanding block, or your fingers will cause an uneven finish. Clean with alcohol, then apply the finish.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Aug 7, 2019, at 3:14 PM, smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard@...> wrote:

Hello there

Our cabin sole needs some tlc. Family sailing with young boys onboard means it’s seen some action and I need to revarnish it.

In high traffic areas we are down through varnish to bare wood in patches.

I’d greatly appreciate any advice on how best to restore the floor.

Do you think I need to remove all the existing varnish 1st? If so I assume cabinet scrappers would be the best option - if very slow :(

Then I was thinking of a few coats of epoxy ?? and then a matt varnish. Perhaps a water based one so it’s not so toxic during the application

It’d be great to get any tips from folk who have done this before


Many thanks in advance

Miles
Maramu 162
Plymouth Uk