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1986 Amel Maramu 46 Mainsail Furling Motors
Samantha Jane Bartlett
Hi,
I've been through all the info in the messages here and we've been trying to get an answer from Amel for weeks with no success - Our mainsail furling and outhaul motors are completely rusted up (inherited problem) and we need to replace them. They are 3 pole motors but I can't get any info on the specs - closest I've found on here is a Leroy Somer MBT82-M?? 3,100 revs and 450W... I've trawled the Leroy Somer website and googled for a supplier but I'm still struggling - can anyone confirm the specs and a supplier? We've installed a work-around with a Quick windlass motor but I'm pretty sure we've overpowered it... it would be great to have some specs so that we can replace them with the right ones! Thank you! Sam
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Duane Siegfri
Paul S (Rita Kathryn),
That's very generous of you! We won't return to Grenada until 9/26, and then it will take a bit to do the work. It will be as late as the end of October before I would return them, if that's a problem just let me know. Please put a note in with the tools for the customs people in Grenada that this is a loan of tools from one private party to another with your address for me to return them to. The shipping address is: Duane Siegfried, 1036 Falcon Crest Court, Staunton, IL 62088. We hope to run into you again soon! Thanks again, Duane
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Re: Companionway locker for SM2K
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Re: Spinnaker Pole Strut Support
What I have seen happen is that salt accumulates where the stainless steel tubing is crimped and folded over the shrouds and held in place with a bolt. This is an important area to rinse with freshwater after each sailing and weekly if in harbour. Salt that has accumulated on the entire length of the shroud will run down the shroud and accumulate at this point. Freshwater rinsing solves the issue. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 3:37 PM Ian <parkianj@...> wrote: Miles,
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Duane Siegfri
Paul,
I'll do that. I plan to put them in the Files section. Duane
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Duane Siegfri
Roque,
Thats fantastic! Thank you! Now I can fabricate the tool and take it back to Grenada with me. Duane
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Gary Silver
Hi Duane:
The removal of the end cap (called "Bearing Cap" in the exploded parts diagrams, item #2) was the most difficult part of the Autoprop overhaul for me. The two-peg tool I bought from Brunton was totally inadequate (bent within seconds and became useless). It is my belief that this cap was assembled at the factory with a locking sealant. At any rate, manufacture a 4 peg tool using the dimensions posted by another member in this thread. Those dimensions are correct. The pegs will need to be hardened steel (you can use drill bit shanks). A SS two pin tool most likely won't work. When the time comes to remove the bearing cap/end caps, heat the cap with a heat gun (you want to loosen any locktite with heat NOT heat damage the metal), apply your tool tightly (two people with gloves so you don't get burned, one to hold the tool in place and one to apply the torque) and turn in an anti-clockwise direction. Note that this is most easily accomplished with the prop on the boat so it is held in place as you apply your torque. My notes are that all threads on the auto prop are right hand threads (clockwise to tighten and anti-clockwise to loosen) EXCEPT FOR THE THREADS OF THE TAB SCREW aka locking nut (item 4, part number H6 TRI-0221) THAT HAS LEFT HAND THREADS. I have posted in the photos section a series of photos (search "Autoprop" in the photos section" relative to removing the races, the failed peg spanner etc. Located there is my photo of using a socket that I ground down to produce the tool for removing the left hand treaded tab screw (called by me the "locking nut"). I did this out of desperation in Antigua and it worked well but took me several hours with a Dremmel tool and hand files. Unfortunately I didn't make note of the size of the socket I used. Also, in the files section, there are several rather dis-jointed posts that contain tips related to my experience with this overhaul. It is all about the tools!!! Evidently the Autoprop comes in a model that doesn't have lip seals and has flooded bearings (open to sea-water). My model has lip seals and the bearings are not flooded. My failure was caused by the Autoprop recall when the factory failed to overhaul my prop with seals (the bearings then failed within one season). Once I overhauled it properly it has lasted 10 years. It is still silky smooth with these precautions: 1. I never allow power washing of the Autoprop. A power washer can easily blow water past the lip seals. 2. I religiously lube the Autoprop upon haul out each year. Good luck with your overhaul and don't hesitate to make/have made your own tools. Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335 On the hard for hurricane season in Puerto Del Rey Marina, Puerto Rico
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Paul Stascavage
Duane,
I just did the rebuild a few months ago. Supposedly, King Propulsion will loan you the tools. When I needed them there was a boat show going on somewhere and I couldn’t get a response so I ended up biting the bullet and buying them. A machine shop could make them for at least half the price. Email me your address and I will ship them to you. You can ship them back to me when you are done. I would suggest having them made by a machine shop while you have them in your possession but not until you have used them. This way you will have some ideas for improvements. I highly recommend watching the rebuild videos on the YouTube King Propulsion channel. Even with the tools and using an extension for leverage, I was unable to get the end caps off. I ended up having a machine shop do that for me. Both heat and leverage were needed to get mine off. The entire job took me much longer than I anticipated. I also found conflicting information regarding torque specifications for putting everything back together. I forget at the moment what I ended up going with but I have an accessible write up that is not accessible at the moment if you want me to look up my notes. Write me if you have any questions. Also a huge FYI. In the King Propulsion videos, he attacks the end caps as if they are LH threads in one video and RH in another. They are RH threads. All the Best, Paul Stascavage S/V Rita Kathryn SM #466 RitaKathryn.com Currently Exploring City Island, NY
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Re: Spinnaker Pole Strut Support
Ian Park
Miles,
On my previous boat (not an Amel) I got rid of the plastic shroud covers because they collected and held rainwater. All the wire underneath the plastic had rust marks on it. I have moved my boomerangs and there was no real sign of corrosion. But our Santorin had no plastic covers, just clamped straight to the shrouds. Ian Ocean Hobo SN96
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Re: Spinnaker Pole Strut Support
smiles bernard
Hi there
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Apparently Amel call these stainless sections ‘boomerangs’ for obvious shape based reasons. I had crevice corrosion in all 6 shrouds on the main mast - where they passed through these boomerangs which prompted a complete replacement of all our standing rigging in Martenique this year. I would recommend all to have a look at there shrouds at this location. It’s a 5 min job to loosen the shroud clamps and move the boomerang up for a peek. Interestingly on my Maramu the shrouds had plastic around them at the point of passing through the boomerang clamps. I’ve since noticed that all the SMs I’ve seen since don’t have this plastic sheathing. The boomerangs just attach directly to the wire shrouds. Perhaps this causes less problems. I for one will be washing / moving the boomerangs frequently. I might even take them off if the boat is stationary for a while as it’s a quick job. Interested to hear others experience All the best Miles Maramu 162 Plymouth uk
On 5 Jul 2019, at 23:53, sailhanoah@... wrote:
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Duane,
Buy an Adjustable Pin Wrench. I’m not sure this would fit but it gives you the idea of what to shop for: https://www.lowes.com/pd/3-Piece-7-5-in-Stainless-Steel-Adjustable-Wrench-Set/1000374705
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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Sent: Monday, July 22, 2019 1:52 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Autoprop H6 Tools
I'm preparing to replace the bearings in my Autoprop.
I've got the H6 LH (left hand) Tab Screw model.
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Duane
During coming winter I have to service my Autoprop as well. Would appreciate if you later post some pictures and eventual problems Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Duane, I had mine made by a local engineer years ago. Photos attached. The pins are some hard material, not mild steel. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean pearl
On 23 July 2019 at 05:51 "Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io" <carlylelk@...> wrote:
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Re: Autoprop H6 Tools
Roque
Duane Regarding the “pin holes”: Diameter: 5 mm Depth: 4 mm Distance between holes ( center): 23.5 mm The cover is curved (like a dome). 12 mm high Sorry no info on Tab Screw I took pictures that might help Roque Attika A54 117 Santos - Brazil Em seg, 22 de jul de 2019 às 14:52, Duane Siegfri via Groups.Io <carlylelk=aol.com@groups.io> escreveu:
I'm preparing to replace the bearings in my Autoprop. I've got the H6 LH (left hand) Tab Screw model.
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Autoprop H6 Tools
Duane Siegfri
I'm preparing to replace the bearings in my Autoprop. I've got the H6 LH (left hand) Tab Screw model.
You need a "Peg Spanner" to get the round outer covers off, and another "Peg Spanner" to get the Tab Screw off, and a "Nut Spanner" to get the Tab Screw Nut off. The combined cost of these tools from Brunton is over $370, which is crazy excessive. The boat is in Grenada, and I'm in the midwest. There are a variety of "Adjustable Pin Wrenches" on Amazon, but I need the diameter of the "pin" holes in the cover, as well as the diameter of the pins in the Tab Screw. Does anyone have that info? The "Nut Spanner" looks like a socket with the perimeter filed down leaving four "legs". This is the expensive tool at $192. I don't know that anyone makes something similiar that would work, any suggestions? I think I saw on this forum that someone had filed down a socket to fit but I can't find that post or file. Just FYI I made my own "Prop Puller" from a piece of aluminum plate with three holes for the zinc nose cone bolts and a large hole in the center. Using this aluminum plate with my bearing puller (Harbor Freight $50) does a great job of popping the prop off. Brunton wants $236 for the same tool.  If I can get this info together I'll post drawings of the tool fabrication in the files section. Thanks, Duane Wanderer, SM#477
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Re: Companionway locker for SM2K
Mark McGovern
Olaf,
I got the same "shock" this past winter when my lock failed. The lock on my boat was not the original lock but was a very common door lock used throughout France. I ended up getting this one: https://www.amazon.fr/City-Verrou-suret%C3%A9-Cylindre-s%C3%A9curit%C3%A9/dp/B07JHTQXDQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1548273837&sr=1-1&keywords=verrou+city+25 The bolt pattern was perfect but I did have to modify it slightly to get it to fit. I had to shorten the locking bar by about ~10mm. Also, it is definitely not "Marine Grade" so it will eventually rust out. A little Corrosion X will help and since it only cost around €25, I figure that I can replace it 20 times and still save money! ;) -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Re: Companionway locker for SM2K
I will take tomorrow the details and will try to get one in Germany where we order ouer where we order our stuff for the carpentry
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Re: Companionway locker for SM2K
Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
Ouch, that much now.
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We took ours to a locksmith that managed to renovate it, thats about 10 years ago. It is still going strong. Maybe that is a solution for you Hälsningar/Regards/Cumprementos Ann-Sofie S\Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998.
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Re: Companionway locker for SM2K
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Hello Olaf, Did you try rebuilding your? Here is what I did: http://www.nikimat.com/companion_way_broken_lock.html Hope that helps and good luck! Alexandre
On Monday, July 22, 2019, 12:00:30 PM CDT, Olaf Bauer <olaf.bauer@...> wrote: Hi AMELians,
Does anyone know where to buy the companionway locker for a SM2K or a similar one? The original one from AMEL France should cost EUR 575.00 pls taxes and fees :-o
Hope to get a similiar or original one significantly more favourable
Fair winds Olaf
S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392
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Companionway locker for SM2K
Hi AMELians,
Does anyone know where to buy the companionway locker for a SM2K or a similar one? The original one from AMEL France should cost EUR 575.00 pls taxes and fees :-o
Hope to get a similiar or original one significantly more favourable
Fair winds Olaf
S/V Katchopine, SM2K 392
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