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Re: Any news about the 3D printed Toe pulley (headsail)

Mike Ondra
 

Jose,

Mark McGovern has been making these in stainless steel. I received a pair and they are beautiful! Will be installing next week and will verify that they perform well. Search in the groups.io site for his name, or his posting #43674 on 2Jan19.

Mike

Aletes SM#240

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 3:54 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Any news about the 3D printed Toe pulley (headsail)

 

I think that nowadays they can be printed in stainless steel at a reasonable price, particularly if there are enough parts made.  I will be in the market for two units and be willing to put whoever has made mechanical drawings with the printing shop. 

Jose
Ipanema SM2K 278
Boston 

Re: Anchor Chain Size and Length

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Jose,

After two circumnavigations, in two yachts, and a lot of cruising in other vessels including my latest Amel 54, I say that you have to compromise. Of course more chain would be nice on occasion but that needs to be weighed against stowage and a heavy weight in the bow. 100m of 10mm chain (250kg) is about the maximum you can  stow and is generally sufficient. If in extremis you can add some nylon rope. I have noted though that when anchoring in say more than 25m less scope often holds quite well. Three to one in 30m of water holds whilst in 3m of water 9m will not do it. However if on short scope and it starts to blow you ain’t gonna sleep well. It is just one of those things. There is only so much chain you can practically have. You can though go for a really good modern anchor like maybe a Rocna, say 40 Kg and 100m 10mm chain and the windlass /stowage. You will have a pretty solid system.

On the gypsy should be stamped the chain size iso/din etc often on the underside. As Danny says you must check it for wear.

Nick

Amelia 

Aml 54-019 La Palma

On 10 Apr 2019, at 21:55, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Jose,

Chain size. May be either 10 mm or 3/8 inch gypsy. You need to check. Good idea to take the gypsy with you when you go to buy the chain. Check for wear on the gypsy, that may be why it skips although even right size and good condition will skip under high loading. We have 100 m of chain and a further 70 m of heavy nylon anchor rode (rope)  spliced to the chain. Very important that the rode never makes contact with coral as it would cut. I found this to be a good combination. I spliced it through two links to get it to fit and did a nice tight splice so it would go down the hawse pipe. The gypsy will grip the rode if you find a way to apply a little pressure to the rode onto the gypsy.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 

Ocean Pearl

On 11 April 2019 at 08:10 "Jose Venegas via Groups.Io" <josegvenegas@...> wrote: 

I am getting ready to replace my current anchor chain.   The chain that was installed by the yard 7 years ago tends to jump when enough force is made by the windlass, which I imagine is because is not the exact size for the original windlass on Ipanema.  
First question: Do you know what size chain should be used?  I am still going to buy a sample before getting the full length to make sure it fits well, but I may save time and money if I try the proper one first.  

A second question: how long (meters or feet) of chain are recommended for long distance cruising.  I find that 100 meter is too short and restricts the anchorages I can use.  

Jose Venegas 
Ipanema, SM2K 278 
Boston 

Re: Anchor Chain Size and Length

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Jose,

Chain size. May be either 10 mm or 3/8 inch gypsy. You need to check. Good idea to take the gypsy with you when you go to buy the chain. Check for wear on the gypsy, that may be why it skips although even right size and good condition will skip under high loading. We have 100 m of chain and a further 70 m of heavy nylon anchor rode (rope)  spliced to the chain. Very important that the rode never makes contact with coral as it would cut. I found this to be a good combination. I spliced it through two links to get it to fit and did a nice tight splice so it would go down the hawse pipe. The gypsy will grip the rode if you find a way to apply a little pressure to the rode onto the gypsy.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 

Ocean Pearl

On 11 April 2019 at 08:10 "Jose Venegas via Groups.Io" <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

I am getting ready to replace my current anchor chain.   The chain that was installed by the yard 7 years ago tends to jump when enough force is made by the windlass, which I imagine is because is not the exact size for the original windlass on Ipanema. 
First question: Do you know what size chain should be used?  I am still going to buy a sample before getting the full length to make sure it fits well, but I may save time and money if I try the proper one first. 

A second question: how long (meters or feet) of chain are recommended for long distance cruising.  I find that 100 meter is too short and restricts the anchorages I can use. 

Jose Venegas
Ipanema, SM2K 278
Boston 

Anchor Chain Size and Length

Jose Venegas
 

I am getting ready to replace my current anchor chain.   The chain that was installed by the yard 7 years ago tends to jump when enough force is made by the windlass, which I imagine is because is not the exact size for the original windlass on Ipanema. 
First question: Do you know what size chain should be used?  I am still going to buy a sample before getting the full length to make sure it fits well, but I may save time and money if I try the proper one first. 

A second question: how long (meters or feet) of chain are recommended for long distance cruising.  I find that 100 meter is too short and restricts the anchorages I can use. 

Jose Venegas
Ipanema, SM2K 278
Boston 

Any news about the 3D printed Toe pulley (headsail)

Jose Venegas
 

I think that nowadays they can be printed in stainless steel at a reasonable price, particularly if there are enough parts made.  I will be in the market for two units and be willing to put whoever has made mechanical drawings with the printing shop. 

Jose
Ipanema SM2K 278
Boston 

Dominican Republic

Duane Siegfri
 

My apologies if this sort of post is too off-topic.

We're preparing to leave the Bahamas for the Dominican Republic.  They have some pretty restrictive allowances for "boat stores" which we exceed by magnitudes (especially the wine and beer!).  The guide books note that they will "inspect" your vessel.  These are the same guide books that advise you to stock up.  

Can anyone advise me on what to expect from Customs in the DR?  I'm thinking of just sailing past it to Puerto Rico, but that's a longer sail than I prefer.

Thanks,
Duane
Wanderer, SM#477

Re: Running the engine at high rpms and the Amel drive

Joerg Esdorn
 

Thanks, Teun.  I will try to confirm this with Volvo.  Cheers Joerg

Re: Improvements on Servicing the Amel Drive

Joerg Esdorn
 

Hi Arno, I was discussing this issue in person with two A54 owners this morning.  It seems that their spare bushings don't have the holes for the long bolts.  Maybe there's a design difference.  If I were you I'd send my picture to Thierry or Maude and ask them to send you the stuff if it applies to your boat.   You may already have the round plate with the thick bolt - that's the Autoprop removal tool, maybe modified by Amel by adding three additional holes that are somewhat smaller than the holes for the 3 bolts that screw into the Autoprop.  Hope that helps.  Cheers Joerg

Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Darren And Kel
 

Hi All, 

we are also in a situation wanting to check out a Amel  ,  We had to sell our last center cockpit boat due to my wifes back issues, and would love a opportunity for her to scramble around a SM and especialy try climing in and out of the cockpit, where she had the biggest problem on our last smaller boat. 

We are in in the San Blas, Panama at the moment. heading to San Andreas in a couple of weeks on our Nautitech. 
After sailing monos most of our sailing lifes we switched over to a cat but would really like to go back to a mono if we can find the right one so the cat is on the market (or possible part exchange for a Amel ;). 

So, if is anyone passing through who would let us take a look it would be really appreciated
Darren & Kelly

Re: Improvements on Servicing the Amel Drive

Arno Luijten
 

Thas seem to be a very clever tool to have. I’m guessing it’s something Amel added to the standard delivery when the A55 was introduced. Can anyone discover a part number for this tool? I’d like to oder this for our A54 as well if possible.

Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121

Re: Locker Gaskets

Conn Williamson <connwilliamson@...>
 

Arlo, I did mine some years ago. I found solid rubber stripping about 10mm X 20mm from a rubber supply shop.


On Wed., 10 Apr. 2019, 12:51 pm Arlo, <svplanb@...> wrote:
Hello all. I am re-coating the inside of my lockers with gelcoat. While doing this,  I am looking to also replace the rubber gaskets on the forward and aft lockers as well as the cockpit lockers. Anyone found a good source for these gaskets in the states? I did a search on this forum but the source was not listed. ;(

Arlo
1985 Amel Mango
Seaduction Hull # 46

Re: Fuel Polishing

eric freedman
 

Hi Ian and Judy,

I also use the same filter that you specified. I use 2 micron filters in the racor with no problems.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of ianjudyjenkins@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:46 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Polishing

 

Hi Eric , 

 

You’re right . When we bought Pen Azen we had Amel fit a big truck filter in line with the diesel intake . In the starboard cockpit locker we have a cock in the diesel hose which allows us to fill the tank either directly ( if we are confident of the fuel quality ) or divert the fuel through the big filter , propelled by an electric pump , and then into the tank . 

Back in EU waters we rarely use the big filter but it was very useful elsewhere. 

 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302, Lavrion 


On 10 Apr 2019, at 00:19, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Ian and Judy,

You forgot to mention your pre-fill filtering system. Thank you so much for that idea. I think I have about 86,000 miles on Kimberlite and never had a problem.

Fair Winds,

Eric

Sm 376 Kimberlite



On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 03:18 PM, CW Bill Rouse wrote:

35,000 miles and around the world I only had to throw the valve on the double Racor once, and never lost power.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

 

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019, 2:30 PM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

 Can I encourage you to identify yourself, the name and number of your Amel and where it is ? Its just makes it easier for anyone else to respond.

 

 I do wonder about the necessity of fuel polishing. We have twin Racors before the engine fuel filter itself and only once in almost 30 years of owning three Amels have we had a problem with dirty fuel, a problem quickly fixed by switching from one Racor filter to the other. This is despite 8 years in third world countries with few leisure marine facilities

 

 What is rarely mentioned is that diesel engines recycle back to the fuel tank more litres every hour than they consume. With the D2-75  I'm told that that can be as much as 75%. The effect of this is that you automatically have a fuel polishing system in place.

 

I should be interested to hear of other experiences.

 

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Lavrion, Greece

 

 


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: 09 April 2019 17:13
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Polishing

 

Any opinions or better ideas, would be well received.

 

I am thinking of rigging a simple fuel polishing system that utilises the existing Racor set up.

 

Between the Racor filters and the engine insert a Y valve that goes to the engine or to a new inline 24v fuel pump (120 lph) that then goes to the fuel return line with a T connector.

 

In polishing mode, in a harbour or at anchor, with the engine off, the Y valve is set to send the fuel to the pump which is turned on, and back to the tank via the fuel return line. The fuel is circulated all day or overnight and is filtered. 

 

At the end just go back to normal mode and change the filter, check for debris.

 

Any thoughts? Total cost would be £45 for the pump plus a few fittings and a bit of hose. Call it £100.

Re: Fuel Polishing

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Eric , 

You’re right . When we bought Pen Azen we had Amel fit a big truck filter in line with the diesel intake . In the starboard cockpit locker we have a cock in the diesel hose which allows us to fill the tank either directly ( if we are confident of the fuel quality ) or divert the fuel through the big filter , propelled by an electric pump , and then into the tank . 
Back in EU waters we rarely use the big filter but it was very useful elsewhere. 

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM 302, Lavrion 


On 10 Apr 2019, at 00:19, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Ian and Judy,
You forgot to mention your pre-fill filtering system. Thank you so much for that idea. I think I have about 86,000 miles on Kimberlite and never had a problem.
Fair Winds,
Eric
Sm 376 Kimberlite


On Tue, Apr 09, 2019 at 03:18 PM, CW Bill Rouse wrote:

35,000 miles and around the world I only had to throw the valve on the double Racor once, and never lost power.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019, 2:30 PM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
Hello,

 Can I encourage you to identify yourself, the name and number of your Amel and where it is ? Its just makes it easier for anyone else to respond.

 I do wonder about the necessity of fuel polishing. We have twin Racors before the engine fuel filter itself and only once in almost 30 years of owning three Amels have we had a problem with dirty fuel, a problem quickly fixed by switching from one Racor filter to the other. This is despite 8 years in third world countries with few leisure marine facilities

 What is rarely mentioned is that diesel engines recycle back to the fuel tank more litres every hour than they consume. With the D2-75  I'm told that that can be as much as 75%. The effect of this is that you automatically have a fuel polishing system in place.

I should be interested to hear of other experiences.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Lavrion, Greece



From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: 09 April 2019 17:13
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel Polishing
 
Any opinions or better ideas, would be well received.

I am thinking of rigging a simple fuel polishing system that utilises the existing Racor set up.

Between the Racor filters and the engine insert a Y valve that goes to the engine or to a new inline 24v fuel pump (120 lph) that then goes to the fuel return line with a T connector.

In polishing mode, in a harbour or at anchor, with the engine off, the Y valve is set to send the fuel to the pump which is turned on, and back to the tank via the fuel return line. The fuel is circulated all day or overnight and is filtered. 

At the end just go back to normal mode and change the filter, check for debris.

Any thoughts? Total cost would be £45 for the pump plus a few fittings and a bit of hose. Call it £100.

Re: B&G Navigation instruments

Seckin Barlas
 

Dear Ahmet;
How are you?

I might be interested in your instruments as spare parts for mine…
I will call you from your GSM
See you
Regards;
Seckin Barlas SY HAYAT

On 09 Apr 2019, at 14:23, ahmet kipcak <@Akipcak> wrote:

Hi all,
Due to processor failure I had to changed my B&G navigation instruments with Raymarine.
The equipments below are for sell, anyone who needs this stuff can contact with me.

Best regards

Ahmet Kipcak
SM247
Cesme Izmır






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Re: Fuel polishing

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Erik,
I am not on the boat now. From memory the fuel exits the bottom of the tank directly to the Racors but There is no valve on a lower sump.
I could drain off the Racor filter very easily. I suspect though that the pick up is just off the bottom of the tank. So the sludge will remain between the fuel pick up and the very bottom of the tank.
There may not be any sludge. Maybe I am seeing gremlins where there are none!
Nick
Amelia AML 54 -019 La Palma

On 10 Apr 2019, at 07:08, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Nick,
On Kimberlite the tank drains from the bottom. Is it different on the 54?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376


-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io]
On Behalf Of ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:00 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel polishing

Thanks for the feedback. So the general consensus is that additional
polishing is not required as the Racor primary filter plus engine filter is
fine. So long as one takes the usual precautions. In addition whilst
motoring or running the generator some fuel polishing happens anyway.

This is nice to read.

I only raise this because the newer Amels have common rail turbo charged
engines, where fuel cleanliness is extra important. In addition we may well
be buying fuel with 20% biodiesel, and low sulphur. Biodiesel is more prone
to degrading and bacterial growth.
Amelia has been ashore for 5 months with brim full tank.
It is a shame there is no drain valve to remove a few litres off the bottom
of the tank.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 currently located ashore in La Palma, Canary Island.
Launching in a couple of weeks and planning to sail to Greece this spring.





Re: Fuel polishing

eric freedman
 

Hi Nick,
On Kimberlite the tank drains from the bottom. Is it different on the 54?
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

-----Original Message-----
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io]
On Behalf Of ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:00 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fuel polishing

Thanks for the feedback. So the general consensus is that additional
polishing is not required as the Racor primary filter plus engine filter is
fine. So long as one takes the usual precautions. In addition whilst
motoring or running the generator some fuel polishing happens anyway.

This is nice to read.

I only raise this because the newer Amels have common rail turbo charged
engines, where fuel cleanliness is extra important. In addition we may well
be buying fuel with 20% biodiesel, and low sulphur. Biodiesel is more prone
to degrading and bacterial growth.
Amelia has been ashore for 5 months with brim full tank.
It is a shame there is no drain valve to remove a few litres off the bottom
of the tank.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 currently located ashore in La Palma, Canary Island.
Launching in a couple of weeks and planning to sail to Greece this spring.

Re: Companionway Door Seal - New Photos Album & Photos

Steven Bode - SV Intention 1994-SM#117
 

Thanks, everybody! I'll clear those drain holes at the bottom of the companionway board box when I get back to the boat (say THAT 10 times fast). Going to make a "Gary Flapper", too!
-Bode

Fuel polishing

ngtnewington Newington
 

Thanks for the feedback. So the general consensus is that additional polishing is not required as the Racor primary filter plus engine filter is fine. So long as one takes the usual precautions. In addition whilst motoring or running the generator some fuel polishing happens anyway.

This is nice to read.

I only raise this because the newer Amels have common rail turbo charged engines, where fuel cleanliness is extra important. In addition we may well be buying fuel with 20% biodiesel, and low sulphur. Biodiesel is more prone to degrading and bacterial growth.
Amelia has been ashore for 5 months with brim full tank.
It is a shame there is no drain valve to remove a few litres off the bottom of the tank.

Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 currently located ashore in La Palma, Canary Island. Launching in a couple of weeks and planning to sail to Greece this spring.

Re: Improvements on Servicing the Amel Drive

Joerg Esdorn
 

It’s bronze - but it has a silver shine to it.  There was heavy wear on the bushing when I took it out after 750 hours.  Both the old bushing from 2016 and the new spare i just received have the threaded holes.  

Joerg

Locker Gaskets

Arlo
 

Hello all. I am re-coating the inside of my lockers with gelcoat. While doing this,  I am looking to also replace the rubber gaskets on the forward and aft lockers as well as the cockpit lockers. Anyone found a good source for these gaskets in the states? I did a search on this forum but the source was not listed. ;(

Arlo
1985 Amel Mango
Seaduction Hull # 46