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Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I think the fact there is no tender attached to your boat is enough of a signal, don't you?.

Danny'

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 11:40 seagasm <seagasm@...> wrote:

Personally, I would never put my boat name on my tender, only the registration number eg. T/T Reg 9999. By doing this you avoid the possibility of someone ashore immediately identifying that boat by name has no-one on board. A security measure everyone should consider.

Kind Regards
Barry Ferguson
Tradewinds III SM #171

On 05/08/19 08:42, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg wrote:
Write ”T/T” followed by your boats name on it.  
T/T = Tender To


Hälsningar/regards/cumprimentos
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

4 aug. 2019 kl. 22:39 skrev Mark Erdos < mcerdos@...>:

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!

 


 


 


Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

seagasm
 

Personally, I would never put my boat name on my tender, only the registration number eg. T/T Reg 9999. By doing this you avoid the possibility of someone ashore immediately identifying that boat by name has no-one on board. A security measure everyone should consider.

Kind Regards
Barry Ferguson
Tradewinds III SM #171

On 05/08/19 08:42, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg wrote:
Write ”T/T” followed by your boats name on it.  
T/T = Tender To


Hälsningar/regards/cumprimentos
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

4 aug. 2019 kl. 22:39 skrev Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>:

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!



Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

Write ”T/T” followed by your boats name on it.  
T/T = Tender To


Hälsningar/regards/cumprimentos
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

4 aug. 2019 kl. 22:39 skrev Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...>:

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!


Re: Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

I will!

Hälsningar
Ann-Sofie Svanberg


Skickat från min iPhone

4 aug. 2019 kl. 23:06 skrev Mark Pitt <mark_pitt@...>:

Hi Ann-Sofie,

I would like four of these if it is not too much trouble.  They can be sent to me at

  • Mark Pitt (S/V Sabbatical III)
  • WICKFORD COVE MARINA
  • 65 REYNOLDS ST
  • NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI 02852-5801
  • United States

Thank you.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419
Rockland, Maine


On Aug 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...> wrote:

I am on my way to Sweden and will even be close the swedish shop. Will be there at the end of August.

If you are interested, I can see how many I can buy and send to you. 
Can be easier than asking them to send world wide.
Just let me know how many and where to send.

Hälsningar/Regards
Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998


Skickat från min iPhone



Re: New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

Mark Erdos
 

Alex,

 

In the USA, your USA cruising permit does not include the dinghy. You are required to have a state registration. The guy did you a favor by not writing you a ticket. It doesn’t really matter which state you register in so long as you have some sort of registration. Rule of thumb, if it has a motor, it must be registered.

 

The difficult part is explaining to the local tax agency that you are required to register the dinghy (per the authorities) but you do not reside there or have a mailing address in the state to where they can mail you the permit. It is really screwed up. If you are in a marina, that’ll be easier as you can use their address.

 

Or

 

You can mark the dinghy “T/T No Stress” and show them the federal rules that allow you to use the tender to transit ONLY to and from the mothership (no joy riding). Most law enforcement officers are unaware of this. You will need to carry it with you. I do not know where to point you to online for the rules. Perhaps someone else can help.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alex Ramseyer
Sent: Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!


Re: Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Ann-Sofie,

I would like four of these if it is not too much trouble.  They can be sent to me at

  • Mark Pitt (S/V Sabbatical III)
  • WICKFORD COVE MARINA
  • 65 REYNOLDS ST
  • NORTH KINGSTOWN, RI 02852-5801
  • United States

Thank you.

Mark Pitt
Sabbatical III, SM419
Rockland, Maine


On Aug 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...> wrote:

I am on my way to Sweden and will even be close the swedish shop. Will be there at the end of August.

If you are interested, I can see how many I can buy and send to you. 
Can be easier than asking them to send world wide.
Just let me know how many and where to send.

Hälsningar/Regards
Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998


Skickat från min iPhone



Re: Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

JOHN HAYES
 

Hi Ann-Sofie

 

Be very grateful if you could buy 2 or 3 and post to me in NZ. let me know price and a bank account number and Ill reimburse you

 

Grateful thanks

 

John Hayes

 

Johnhayes862gmail.com

 

+64 21546072

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg <ann-sofie@...>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, 5 August 2019 at 5:56 AM
To: <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

 

I am on my way to Sweden and will even be close the swedish shop. Will be there at the end of August.

 

If you are interested, I can see how many I can buy and send to you. 

Can be easier than asking them to send world wide.

Just let me know how many and where to send.

Hälsningar/Regards

Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998

 

 

Skickat från min iPhone


4 aug. 2019 kl. 17:25 skrev CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:

Ian and others:

 

I cannot account for why I was told the rubber button was not a Goiot part, but, in fact, when I contacted Goiot France to buy some sun screens for the Traditional ports, they put me in touch with their North America Contact Bill Hansen, who sold me the sun screens. I also asked him about these rubber things. He told me that he checked with France and Goiot told him no. 

 

I just downloaded the complete Goiot Tradition Parts list and this rubber part #93482 Rubber knob for round ports and 44.22 & 54.32 sizes (x 2) is there...see attached

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse

720 Winnie St

Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

 

 

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 10:41 AM Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:

Bill
I found one on my Amel spare parts box. Photo attached of item plus Goiot box it came in.
The label on the back is faded but it says
BOUTON CAOUTCHOUC HUBLOT
And in English
RUBBER KNOB TRADITIONAL PORT
A serial number underneath is
8162420934826

I would have bought this in Le Marin in 2016

Maybe they are now discontinued?

Best wishes
Ian
“Ocean Hobo” cruising in Denmark


from my iPhone

<Goiot Tradition Port parts.pdf>


New York: Registration for motorized dinghy / foreign flagged sailboat

Alexander Ramseyer
 

Dear Amelians, I just head a local constable visiting me, asking for my dinghy registration.  He sais any motorized boat has to be registered in the State of N.Y. My AMEL is Swiss registered and logically if that was true, I would also need to register my AMEL in N.Y. However, this guy wants to give me a ticket if he sees me again motoring in the Dinghy. Any locals reading this, please advise what I should say to his guy next time...
Alex
"NO STRESS ".....!!!!!!!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

The important thing is that the material should not be so firm and high that it stresses the hinges and will latch down evenly. Too thick or firm would make stress and uneven compression that could lead to leaks.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 

Ocean Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 08:10 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile. 

That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.

Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:

I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocen Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
image.png

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

          

 

http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm





Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kent,

If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
image.png

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

          

 

Let me know what they say

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:11 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
 
Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).


I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.


It will take about 90' to do everything.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  


Regards,
Steve
Aloha SM72

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Danny I am sure A represents what Amel installed, but since apparently all manufacturers have cheapened the foam by lowering the density. This is the reason that I believe I would replace it with B profile. 

That said, I will wait for a final judgement until after Kent has talked to the manufacturer.

Kent, you should ask: Is B better than A in situations where the compression will be greater than 25%. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970


On Sun, Aug 4, 2019, 2:23 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocen Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

          

 

http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm





Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kent,

If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

          

 

Let me know what they say

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:11 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
 
Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).


I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.


It will take about 90' to do everything.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  


Regards,
Steve
Aloha SM72

 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Alan Leslie
 

Ours look more like A

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Mango Keel Rust & Repair - Seeking the wisdom of the community

Charles Bell
 

Bill,

Thank you so much! Your document confirms I am not crazy for immediately coating the exposed metal as I work.

I will take another pass at the areas that are weeping. In both of the weeping areas, I was not as aggressive about removing the fairing material and chasing the rotten metal. I am guessing that is the source of the newly surfacing rust. I will keep chasing these areas with a fresh flap disk and keep updating this post as I run it down.

Charles


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

I would think A is closest to what I have on Ocean Pearl

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocen Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 04:47 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
image.png

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

          

 

http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm





Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse= gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kent,

If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
image.png

 

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

          

 

Let me know what they say

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:11 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai= yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 
 
Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).


I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.


It will take about 90' to do everything.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  


Regards,
Steve
Aloha SM72

 

 

 

 


Re: Mango Keel Rust & Repair - Seeking the wisdom of the community

 

Charles,

Here is 1 page from my Amel Book which has 400 pages.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 1:37 PM Charles Bell <shipbldr2000@...> wrote:
Can someone provide some guidance on the repair process for this keel? I will check & repair the keep ground strap in the sump to eliminate the likely source of the trouble. I need guidance on the keel rust repairs.

The vessel is the 1982 Mango Hull Number 29, formerly Windrush currently named Jupiter, on the hard for a refit in Annapolis.

There are pinhole rust points on the keel (pictures attached). I have been able to get in and explore with an angle grinder & flap disk. In the pictures, the pinhole rust spots were ground to clean metal and then covered with Acid8 rust converter primer to prevent flash rust. 

Almost all the areas aggressively ground and primed are stable (no change). 

Active problems:
In one area that I did not aggressively grind out, there are some re-emerging small re-emerging pinholes. I will re-grind and reprime.
In two areas, there is still weeping in 2 areas.

Should I fully sandblast this keel? Or is this overkill? Is it wasted effort to strip the entire keel?

The areas I have already stabilized will be treated with acid etch/rust convert primer, epoxy, fail, apply totalprotect, and bottom paint. 

Any guidance or wisdom would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Charles
SV Jupiter






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kent

I'll measure today, but they are wider than higher but of course they've had a lot of years of compression.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 05 August 2019 at 01:37 "karkauai via Groups.Io" <karkauai@...> wrote:

Thanks Danny, are they half-round ie 1” x 1/2”, or taller ie 1” x 1”?

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM 243

On Aug 4, 2019, at 5:30 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS < simms@...> wrote:

Hi Kent and Bill. I checked on Ocean Pearl today and all the hatch seals unquestionably have the large hole in the center

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 04 August 2019 at 20:11 "karkauai via Groups.Io" < karkauai@...> wrote:

 
 
Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).


I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse < brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.


It will take about 90' to do everything.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis < flyboyscd@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  


Regards,
Steve
Aloha SM72


 


 


 


 


Mango Keel Rust & Repair - Seeking the wisdom of the community

Charles Bell
 

Can someone provide some guidance on the repair process for this keel? I will check & repair the keep ground strap in the sump to eliminate the likely source of the trouble. I need guidance on the keel rust repairs.

The vessel is the 1982 Mango Hull Number 29, formerly Windrush currently named Jupiter, on the hard for a refit in Annapolis.

There are pinhole rust points on the keel (pictures attached). I have been able to get in and explore with an angle grinder & flap disk. In the pictures, the pinhole rust spots were ground to clean metal and then covered with Acid8 rust converter primer to prevent flash rust. 

Almost all the areas aggressively ground and primed are stable (no change). 

Active problems:
In one area that I did not aggressively grind out, there are some re-emerging small re-emerging pinholes. I will re-grind and reprime.
In two areas, there is still weeping in 2 areas.

Should I fully sandblast this keel? Or is this overkill? Is it wasted effort to strip the entire keel?

The areas I have already stabilized will be treated with acid etch/rust convert primer, epoxy, fail, apply totalprotect, and bottom paint. 

Any guidance or wisdom would be appreciated.

Thank you,

Charles
SV Jupiter






Re: Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

Annsofie & Jonas Svanberg
 

I am on my way to Sweden and will even be close the swedish shop. Will be there at the end of August.

If you are interested, I can see how many I can buy and send to you. 
Can be easier than asking them to send world wide.
Just let me know how many and where to send.

Hälsningar/Regards
Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998


Skickat från min iPhone

4 aug. 2019 kl. 17:25 skrev CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:

Ian and others:

I cannot account for why I was told the rubber button was not a Goiot part, but, in fact, when I contacted Goiot France to buy some sun screens for the Traditional ports, they put me in touch with their North America Contact Bill Hansen, who sold me the sun screens. I also asked him about these rubber things. He told me that he checked with France and Goiot told him no. 

I just downloaded the complete Goiot Tradition Parts list and this rubber part #93482 Rubber knob for round ports and 44.22 & 54.32 sizes (x 2) is there...see attached

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 10:41 AM Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:
Bill
I found one on my Amel spare parts box. Photo attached of item plus Goiot box it came in.
The label on the back is faded but it says
BOUTON CAOUTCHOUC HUBLOT
And in English
RUBBER KNOB TRADITIONAL PORT
A serial number underneath is
8162420934826

I would have bought this in Le Marin in 2016

Maybe they are now discontinued?

Best wishes
Ian
“Ocean Hobo” cruising in Denmark


from my iPhone
<Goiot Tradition Port parts.pdf>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

I am resending this because the first email did not really look correct with HTML
image.png

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

 

http://www.acmerubber.com/round.htm





Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 11:41 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kent,

If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
image.png

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

 

Let me know what they say

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:11 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).


I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.


It will take about 90' to do everything.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  


Regards,
Steve
Aloha SM72


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow locker seals

 

Kent,

If I am not mistaken, they have exactly what I think will work best, which is CACD240:
image.png

 

 


A

B

C

D

E

R

Figure
Letter
(See Above)

CATALOG
NUMBER

Base Width

Wall

Open Height

Base T

Total Height

Radius

B

CACD240

1"

1/8"

9/16"

5/16"

1"

-

 

Let me know what they say

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:11 AM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Here’s the site I was looking at.  These are truly half-round with base 1”, height 1/2”(not 1”).


I’ll contact them and Steve’s site to see if I can find 1” x 1” high D profile in neoprene.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Aug 3, 2019, at 10:42, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Steve, 

Note that Trim-LOC says it uses EPDM Rubber. 

EPDM is related to polyethylene...I assume that this will be similar to polyfoam. The specs state that "compression Rating Recommended 25% compression for the maximum performance." This is where I had a failure with the gasket I previously used. If you notice the weight of the engine room hatch, it will compress the D Gasket to more than 25%, especially if the center hole is large.

Maybe the one that Kent found with a 3/16" hole will be the best.


It will take about 90' to do everything.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 1:34 PM Stephen Davis <flyboyscd@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

How does this product look using the BT Tape?  


Regards,
Steve
Aloha SM72


Goiot parts and seals -Rubber Buttons

 

Ian and others:

I cannot account for why I was told the rubber button was not a Goiot part, but, in fact, when I contacted Goiot France to buy some sun screens for the Traditional ports, they put me in touch with their North America Contact Bill Hansen, who sold me the sun screens. I also asked him about these rubber things. He told me that he checked with France and Goiot told him no. 

I just downloaded the complete Goiot Tradition Parts list and this rubber part #93482 Rubber knob for round ports and 44.22 & 54.32 sizes (x 2) is there...see attached

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970



On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 10:41 AM Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:
Bill
I found one on my Amel spare parts box. Photo attached of item plus Goiot box it came in.
The label on the back is faded but it says
BOUTON CAOUTCHOUC HUBLOT
And in English
RUBBER KNOB TRADITIONAL PORT
A serial number underneath is
8162420934826

I would have bought this in Le Marin in 2016

Maybe they are now discontinued?

Best wishes
Ian
“Ocean Hobo” cruising in Denmark


from my iPhone