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Re: Running the engine at high rpms and the Amel drive

Teun BAAS
 

Joerg,

 

FWIW - I have an A54 with a new VOLVO D3 H engine installed last year.

The Australian VOLVO mechanic installing the engine told me that it was no longer necessary to run the engine @ top RPM’s to burn out the “soot’ as this was a “common rail” engine.

 

I also usually run the engine between 1250 to 1450 rpms; he suggested, from time to time, to vary rpms increasing to 1900 rpms or so for approx. 20 minutes. I don’t like the increased noise & vibrations compared to the 1250/1400 but apparently this is normal. I have now about 160hrs on this engine – to early to tell any wear & tear.

 

During sea-trials we were able to get up to 2780 rpms (which resulted in 9.4 knts) but I cannot foresee running this engine at those rpms.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT

 

ILE des PINS – NEW CALEDONIA

April 9, 2019 13:12:51

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2019 00:19
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Running the engine at high rpms and the Amel drive

 

When I bought my A55 four years ago, I received the standard advice that it's good for a diesel to be run at full throttle once a day for something like 3 minutes.  I've followed that advice when I've remembered it and at full rpms (2400), the vibrations are pretty strong.  I've now completed the first service of my Amel drive (after 750 hours) and the bushing had 3 pretty deep groves from the seal rings.  I'm wondering whether those groves have something to do with the vibrations from running the engine at high rpms once a day.  Thoughts?  Do others follow the practice of running the engine at high rpms once a day?  I usually run at 1350 - 1500 rpms depending on conditions.  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem
Currently at Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

Re: genoa furler screws working loose

Gary Wells
 
Edited

Same with ours but I first had it done in the BVIs after the rivet holes were getting elongated.  

Then, in Martinique in 2016 they placed the backing pieces and switched me out from hex head bolts to theAllen head ones.

I've had to tighten them two or three times in 3 years. I don't use locktite but I have used the tef-gel ... not sure why except that I'd rather have to "tend to torque" and avoid any dissimilar metals problems. 


Gary W.
SM 299, Adagio
Martinique (again) 

Re: Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Hi Barbara,  that puts us at 9 + (6 boats with three couples)interested so far.  Two have Perkins, two have Yanmar 4JH series, and two have Volvo TMD22s.  I doubt we’d be lucky enough to find a class with all three engines available, but I guess the Perkins and Volvo are very similar??  If the class cannot be offered with your engine, are you still interested?
Kent & Iris

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Barbara Stringfellow <bb16negri@...> wrote:

Hi, We are 2 coming from Italy. Available July but not August or September. Our motor is Perkins 4154. Our goals are trouble shooting, repairs, etc. Thanks

Re: Diesel Class

Barbara Stringfellow <bb16negri@...>
 

Hi, We are 2 coming from Italy. Available July but not August or September. Our motor is Perkins 4154. Our goals are trouble shooting, repairs, etc. Thanks

Re: Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Thanks, JP!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:58 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Hi Gang,

From a good friend, superb diesel wrenched, the Volvo is a rebranded/repainted Perkins M80T.

If the class providers can arrange a Volvo, all should go well.

Lovely initiative regarding engine classes.  Can’t make it though

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre, SY Eleuthera, SM007

On 9 Apr 2019, at 02:53, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Arlo,
So far I have 6 interested and one 75%.  Three have the Volvo TMD22, two have Yanmars, and you with the Perkins.  I doubt we’d be lucky enough to find a class with all three engines (or even two) available.  I’ll ask about the Perkins, and if anyone has it I’ll let you know.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

I would be interested in a the class if they have my engine, the perkins 4-236M. Interest level is everything from routine maintenance to repair. As long as its in the U.S. I can make most dates work given a few weeks notice. Just need to avoid the last week of June and last week.of September.

Leece Neville/Prestolite: 8SC3009ZA // 8SC3157V 24v 175A, 8SC/SCJ-series alternator

David Vogel
 

Greetings all,

I have been reviewing my SPARES holding in preparation for a few years out there in the South Pacific, and updating my current reference material.

Below, condensed information / brief data sheet for the high-output alternator fitted to many SMs and, no doubt, other marques.

I know that this info (below) is mostly lifted straight from the Presolite website, but it may also be useful to have this in-forum. Rationale: I download the emails (from both the old and new forum), and have them stored locally off-line for easy searching and access for when I am off-line, having discovered during my first two years ownership-whilst-cruising that, often, when one most needs this info, is also the time when you're in a remote area (no internet), or the internet / WiFi / cellphone connection decides to 'go out / become intermittent'.

Blue skies,

David
SM#396/Perigee
Panama (temporarily with good internet)

++++
Data sheet: Leece Neville/Prestolite 24v 175A, 8SC/SCJ-series alternator with an inbuilt regulator

This series of alternators is generally utilised for Heavy Duty Truck, Marine, Air Conditioning, Off Highway, Agriculture, and Construction applications.

List Price: $1,292.79
Website Only Price: $701.40
Weight: 30 lb

Original Model Number 8SC3009ZA is discontinued, superseded by 8SC3157V
http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_products/specs.php?item_detail_id=841&item=8SC3009ZA

Voltage regulator: OEM part number 8RL3021 / 105-351 has been superseded by p/n 8RL3024S.
Brush box replacement: K185103972S.

http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_contact/

+++++
Product Specifications
Spec Value
Item number 8SC3157V
Sales number N/A
Series number 8SC/SCJ
System voltage 24
Output 175
Mounting style J180
Dimensions in INCHES
Rotation CLOCKWISE
Housing coating RAW
UL Approved No
Mounting bolt size .505-.520
Mounting ear size 1/2-13
Mounting holes 3
Positive stud size 5/16-24
Negative stud size 1/4-28
Rectifier location INTERNAL
Shaft diameter 7/8 INCH
Excitation type  
Regulator location Integral
Regulator number 8RL3136
Diode trio Yes
Pulley included No
Lamp driver No
Adjustable regulator No
Remote sense No
Smart check No
Batteryless No
 
National stocking number (8SC3009ZA): 6115-01-448-2953

Various Publications
Application Information: http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_products/app_guide_per_part.php?pei_part_ref=8SC3009ZA
Cross Reference Information: http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_products/xref_per_part.php?pei_part_ref=8SC3009ZA
Brochure: PP1140_8sc.pdf ( 587K )

8SC-SCJ Maintenance Manual: http://www.prestolite.com/literature/tech/alts/TSM1002_8SC-SCJ_Maintenance_Manual.pdf (6.5 mb)

Parts Breakdown: http://www.prestolite.com/images_alts/partslist/SP1017_8SC-SCJ_parts_list-web.pdf ( 4557K )

Service parts list for the 8SC-SCJ series alternators: http://www.prestolite.com/literature/tech/alts/partslist/SP1017_8SC-SCJ_parts_list-web.pdf (1.6 mb)

Hardware kit for 8SC-SCJ series alternators: http://www.prestolite.com/literature/tech/alts/TSB-3018_8SC-SCJ_hardware.pdf (599 kb)

PP1113_AG_Const: http://www.prestolite.com/literature/alts/PP1113_AG_Const.pdf ( 259K )

Bearing Change procedure for the 8SC/SCJ series alternators overhaul kit. http://www.prestolite.com/literature/tech/alts/TSB-1105%208SC_SCJ%20Bearing%20Change.pdf (3.6 mb)

Technical Service bulletin for the changing of the brushes for the 8SC and SCJ alternators. http://www.prestolite.com/literature/tech/alts/TSB-1167_%208SC_SCJ%20brush%20change.pdf (103 kb)

http://www.prestolite.com/ literature/tech/alts/TSB-1041_ regulator_field_service.pdf

https://www.ase-supply.com/Leece_Neville_110_258_24V_175_amp_ALTERNATOR_p/mo-110-258.htm
 
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Re: Diesel Class

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Gang,

From a good friend, superb diesel wrenched, the Volvo is a rebranded/repainted Perkins M80T.

If the class providers can arrange a Volvo, all should go well.

Lovely initiative regarding engine classes.  Can’t make it though

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre, SY Eleuthera, SM007

On 9 Apr 2019, at 02:53, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi Arlo,
So far I have 6 interested and one 75%.  Three have the Volvo TMD22, two have Yanmars, and you with the Perkins.  I doubt we’d be lucky enough to find a class with all three engines (or even two) available.  I’ll ask about the Perkins, and if anyone has it I’ll let you know.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

I would be interested in a the class if they have my engine, the perkins 4-236M. Interest level is everything from routine maintenance to repair. As long as its in the U.S. I can make most dates work given a few weeks notice. Just need to avoid the last week of June and last week.of September.

Re: Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Hi Arlo,
So far I have 6 interested and one 75%.  Three have the Volvo TMD22, two have Yanmars, and you with the Perkins.  I doubt we’d be lucky enough to find a class with all three engines (or even two) available.  I’ll ask about the Perkins, and if anyone has it I’ll let you know.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:32 AM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

I would be interested in a the class if they have my engine, the perkins 4-236M. Interest level is everything from routine maintenance to repair. As long as its in the U.S. I can make most dates work given a few weeks notice. Just need to avoid the last week of June and last week.of September.

YANMAR 4JH3-HTE: Starter Motor

David Vogel
 

Greetings all,

Below, condensed info / brief data sheet for the Starter Motor for the YANMAR 4JH3-HTE.

Hoping this will be of use to others.

Blue skies,

David
SM#396/Perigee
Panama
+++++++

OEM Part Number: 171008-77010

Specs: Voltage: 12; Rotation: CW; Teeth: 15; KW: 1.4, (OEM: 0.8); Type: OSGR; Shipping Weight: 11.25 pounds.

Equivalent OEM Numbers:
ANDRE NIERMANN: 014257, 014483
CARGO: 110485
DIXIE: S-8556
HITACHI: S114-257, S114-257G, S114-483, S114-483A
KOMATSU: YM171008-77010
LESTER: 18205
YANMAR: 129573-77010, 171008-77011 S114-257 S114-257G S114-483 S114-483A, 129573-77010

Low-cost replacement (for spares)
Brand DB Electrical
Model SHI0082
Item Weight 11.25 pounds
Package Dimensions 9.6 x 6.2 x 5.1 inches
Item model number SHI0082
Manufacturer Part Number SHI0082
Online Price: $122.42

Mid cost: Hitachi

High-cost: YANMAR OEM $432.43

Re: Diesel Class

Arlo
 

I would be interested in a the class if they have my engine, the perkins 4-236M. Interest level is everything from routine maintenance to repair. As long as its in the U.S. I can make most dates work given a few weeks notice. Just need to avoid the last week of June and last week.of September.

Re: Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Cool!  Iris, too!

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:12 AM, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi Kent;

 

Thanks, If it helps, my wife Aty will also be attending.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 9:04 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel Class

 

Mike and Mohammad

So far it’s just the three of us, unless more express an interest, I’m sure that won’t be enough to have a special class for Amelians.

 

Mark Erdos had a good experience with a comprehensive class at the Annapolis School of Seamanship.  I’m looking into options and will let you know what I find out.

Kent


On Apr 8, 2019, at 9:54 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark, good to hear.  I contacted them this morning.

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

There is a very good diesel class in Annapolis at the Annapolis School of Seamanship. It is divided into two parts, the first two days being basic maintenance and second two days being advanced diagnostics. I took both segments and highly recommend it. It is not cheap. The class includes hands on time on engines. For the final exam, I was in a group of three and our task was to start the engine we were assigned. It took us all day to get it running smoothly but it was at this point I realize how much I had learned.

 

This is one of the most in demand classes at the AASS. They sell out well in advance and can be booked on-line. The second class has about half the seats of the first due to the time spent in the workshop on the engines.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 5:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel Class

 

Hi all,

 I tried a couple of years ago to put together a diesel maintenance and repair class for Amel owners with Mac Boring in New Jersey. I couldn’t make it work then, but I am going to try again.  They make an effort to have the engines available that we own, when ever possible.  In years past they had 4-6 participants on each engine who took it apart and put it back together again.  They are now offering 2-3 day classes on maintenance and simple repairs, but are willing to work with us and develop a more comprehensive class if that’s what we want.

id like to do it in late July, August or September if possible.

 

Anyone interested in a comprehensive (4 to 7 day) class, please contact me at karkauai@....  I’ll need your engine make and model, a description of what you’d like to get out of the class, and any dates which will NOT work for you.

I will compile the results and see what they can put together for us.

Please let me know as soon as possible so I can get to work on this.
thanks
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

SPURS Line Cutter - update 2019

David Vogel
 

Greetings all,

Attached, 2019 latest price list for the SPURS Line-cutter and accessories.

Contact:
Bryony Fisher; Bryony@...
Spurs Marine Mfg.
201 SW 33 STREET
FORT LAUDERDALE FL 33315 USA
Tel. 954-463-2707
Fax 954-525-0239
www.spursmarine.com

Blue skies,
David
SM#396/Perigee
on-anchor, La Playita, Panama
Prepping for FP/Marquesas

Re: Diesel Class

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Kent;

 

Thanks, If it helps, my wife Aty will also be attending.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad Shirloo

+1-323-633-2222  Cell

+1-424-644-0908  Fax

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2019 9:04 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel Class

 

Mike and Mohammad

So far it’s just the three of us, unless more express an interest, I’m sure that won’t be enough to have a special class for Amelians.

 

Mark Erdos had a good experience with a comprehensive class at the Annapolis School of Seamanship.  I’m looking into options and will let you know what I find out.

Kent


On Apr 8, 2019, at 9:54 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark, good to hear.  I contacted them this morning.

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

There is a very good diesel class in Annapolis at the Annapolis School of Seamanship. It is divided into two parts, the first two days being basic maintenance and second two days being advanced diagnostics. I took both segments and highly recommend it. It is not cheap. The class includes hands on time on engines. For the final exam, I was in a group of three and our task was to start the engine we were assigned. It took us all day to get it running smoothly but it was at this point I realize how much I had learned.

 

This is one of the most in demand classes at the AASS. They sell out well in advance and can be booked on-line. The second class has about half the seats of the first due to the time spent in the workshop on the engines.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 5:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel Class

 

Hi all,

 I tried a couple of years ago to put together a diesel maintenance and repair class for Amel owners with Mac Boring in New Jersey. I couldn’t make it work then, but I am going to try again.  They make an effort to have the engines available that we own, when ever possible.  In years past they had 4-6 participants on each engine who took it apart and put it back together again.  They are now offering 2-3 day classes on maintenance and simple repairs, but are willing to work with us and develop a more comprehensive class if that’s what we want.

id like to do it in late July, August or September if possible.

 

Anyone interested in a comprehensive (4 to 7 day) class, please contact me at karkauai@....  I’ll need your engine make and model, a description of what you’d like to get out of the class, and any dates which will NOT work for you.

I will compile the results and see what they can put together for us.

Please let me know as soon as possible so I can get to work on this.
thanks
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

Re: Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Mike and Mohammad
So far it’s just the three of us, unless more express an interest, I’m sure that won’t be enough to have a special class for Amelians.

Mark Erdos had a good experience with a comprehensive class at the Annapolis School of Seamanship.  I’m looking into options and will let you know what I find out.
Kent

On Apr 8, 2019, at 9:54 AM, karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...> wrote:

Thanks Mark, good to hear.  I contacted them this morning.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

There is a very good diesel class in Annapolis at the Annapolis School of Seamanship. It is divided into two parts, the first two days being basic maintenance and second two days being advanced diagnostics. I took both segments and highly recommend it. It is not cheap. The class includes hands on time on engines. For the final exam, I was in a group of three and our task was to start the engine we were assigned. It took us all day to get it running smoothly but it was at this point I realize how much I had learned.

 

This is one of the most in demand classes at the AASS. They sell out well in advance and can be booked on-line. The second class has about half the seats of the first due to the time spent in the workshop on the engines.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 5:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel Class

 

Hi all,

 I tried a couple of years ago to put together a diesel maintenance and repair class for Amel owners with Mac Boring in New Jersey. I couldn’t make it work then, but I am going to try again.  They make an effort to have the engines available that we own, when ever possible.  In years past they had 4-6 participants on each engine who took it apart and put it back together again.  They are now offering 2-3 day classes on maintenance and simple repairs, but are willing to work with us and develop a more comprehensive class if that’s what we want.

id like to do it in late July, August or September if possible.

 

Anyone interested in a comprehensive (4 to 7 day) class, please contact me at karkauai@....  I’ll need your engine make and model, a description of what you’d like to get out of the class, and any dates which will NOT work for you.

I will compile the results and see what they can put together for us.

Please let me know as soon as possible so I can get to work on this.
thanks
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

Re: Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Hi Woody,
I don’t know if they would allow us to video it or not. If so, I could set up a go pro and just videoed the whole thing.

If that’s possible I will see what I can do.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

There is a very good diesel class in Annapolis at the Annapolis School of Seamanship. It is divided into two parts, the first two days being basic maintenance and second two days being advanced diagnostics. I took both segments and highly recommend it. It is not cheap. The class includes hands on time on engines. For the final exam, I was in a group of three and our task was to start the engine we were assigned. It took us all day to get it running smoothly but it was at this point I realize how much I had learned.

 

This is one of the most in demand classes at the AASS. They sell out well in advance and can be booked on-line. The second class has about half the seats of the first due to the time spent in the workshop on the engines.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 5:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel Class

 

Hi all,

 I tried a couple of years ago to put together a diesel maintenance and repair class for Amel owners with Mac Boring in New Jersey. I couldn’t make it work then, but I am going to try again.  They make an effort to have the engines available that we own, when ever possible.  In years past they had 4-6 participants on each engine who took it apart and put it back together again.  They are now offering 2-3 day classes on maintenance and simple repairs, but are willing to work with us and develop a more comprehensive class if that’s what we want.

id like to do it in late July, August or September if possible.

 

Anyone interested in a comprehensive (4 to 7 day) class, please contact me at karkauai@....  I’ll need your engine make and model, a description of what you’d like to get out of the class, and any dates which will NOT work for you.

I will compile the results and see what they can put together for us.

Please let me know as soon as possible so I can get to work on this.
thanks
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

Re: Diesel Class

karkauai
 

Thanks Mark, good to hear.  I contacted them this morning.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Apr 8, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

Kent,

 

There is a very good diesel class in Annapolis at the Annapolis School of Seamanship. It is divided into two parts, the first two days being basic maintenance and second two days being advanced diagnostics. I took both segments and highly recommend it. It is not cheap. The class includes hands on time on engines. For the final exam, I was in a group of three and our task was to start the engine we were assigned. It took us all day to get it running smoothly but it was at this point I realize how much I had learned.

 

This is one of the most in demand classes at the AASS. They sell out well in advance and can be booked on-line. The second class has about half the seats of the first due to the time spent in the workshop on the engines.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 5:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel Class

 

Hi all,

 I tried a couple of years ago to put together a diesel maintenance and repair class for Amel owners with Mac Boring in New Jersey. I couldn’t make it work then, but I am going to try again.  They make an effort to have the engines available that we own, when ever possible.  In years past they had 4-6 participants on each engine who took it apart and put it back together again.  They are now offering 2-3 day classes on maintenance and simple repairs, but are willing to work with us and develop a more comprehensive class if that’s what we want.

id like to do it in late July, August or September if possible.

 

Anyone interested in a comprehensive (4 to 7 day) class, please contact me at karkauai@....  I’ll need your engine make and model, a description of what you’d like to get out of the class, and any dates which will NOT work for you.

I will compile the results and see what they can put together for us.

Please let me know as soon as possible so I can get to work on this.
thanks
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

Running the engine at high rpms and the Amel drive

Joerg Esdorn
 

When I bought my A55 four years ago, I received the standard advice that it's good for a diesel to be run at full throttle once a day for something like 3 minutes.  I've followed that advice when I've remembered it and at full rpms (2400), the vibrations are pretty strong.  I've now completed the first service of my Amel drive (after 750 hours) and the bushing had 3 pretty deep groves from the seal rings.  I'm wondering whether those groves have something to do with the vibrations from running the engine at high rpms once a day.  Thoughts?  Do others follow the practice of running the engine at high rpms once a day?  I usually run at 1350 - 1500 rpms depending on conditions.  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem
Currently at Marina di Ragusa, Sicily

Re: Diesel Class

Mark Erdos
 

Kent,

 

There is a very good diesel class in Annapolis at the Annapolis School of Seamanship. It is divided into two parts, the first two days being basic maintenance and second two days being advanced diagnostics. I took both segments and highly recommend it. It is not cheap. The class includes hands on time on engines. For the final exam, I was in a group of three and our task was to start the engine we were assigned. It took us all day to get it running smoothly but it was at this point I realize how much I had learned.

 

This is one of the most in demand classes at the AASS. They sell out well in advance and can be booked on-line. The second class has about half the seats of the first due to the time spent in the workshop on the engines.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - San Blas Islands, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of karkauai via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 5:58 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Diesel Class

 

Hi all,

 I tried a couple of years ago to put together a diesel maintenance and repair class for Amel owners with Mac Boring in New Jersey. I couldn’t make it work then, but I am going to try again.  They make an effort to have the engines available that we own, when ever possible.  In years past they had 4-6 participants on each engine who took it apart and put it back together again.  They are now offering 2-3 day classes on maintenance and simple repairs, but are willing to work with us and develop a more comprehensive class if that’s what we want.

id like to do it in late July, August or September if possible.

 

Anyone interested in a comprehensive (4 to 7 day) class, please contact me at karkauai@....  I’ll need your engine make and model, a description of what you’d like to get out of the class, and any dates which will NOT work for you.

I will compile the results and see what they can put together for us.

Please let me know as soon as possible so I can get to work on this.
thanks
Kent
Kristy
SM 243

Re: Diesel Class

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

Sounds like a superb idea Kent but I bit far for us unfortunately - currently in Med.
Just a thought but would it be possible to video such a course? I know it's no substitute for getting your hands dirty but great reference material. You could monetise it by putting it through Patreon / Vimeo etc. I'd also second Mike's preference of TMD22 

Cheers..

Woody
SM#189

Re: propeller/engine vibration

eric freedman
 

You Know the harbor. Please give me a shout if you come by.

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kelly Ran
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 11:36 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] propeller/engine vibration

 

Hi Eric,

 

We have used McMaster in the past. Thanks for the tip! 

 

We will dig around more before doing anything drastic. 

 

Headed back to Boston, maybe we will see you in Huntington? 

 

kelly + ryan

SM233 Iteration

Charleston 

 

 

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019, 23:27 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Ryan,

Did you look up McMaster Carr? Do you use them.

I would first speak to Olivier before doing an in water boltectomy. I doubt that the bolt and sleeve are damaged. Are you headed back to Boston?

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Meador
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 11:23 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] propeller/engine vibration

 

Thanks Eric, I appreciate your thoughts.  We're currently in Charleston, SC and tomorrow we're sailing to Southport, NC.

 

In looking at the diagram Bill posted, I'm wondering if the bushing has gone bad.  I'm already putting together an order from Amel, maybe I'll see if they have replacements.  Does anyone know the size of the bolt itself, so we can have a spare on hand before we go removing the existing one?

 

Thanks,

 

Ryan and Kelly

SM 233 Iteration

Charleston, SC, USA

 

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 11:08 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Hi Ryan,

Yes that is the bolt I was speaking about . I never knew what that black stuff was for a number of years and when I did  I immediately dug the silicone out and the bolt was surprisingly loose. It looked exactly like yours. If you get to warm water you could dig the silicone out. Remove the bolt grease it and put it back with grease. Then crank it down tight.

I would ask Olivier, however I feel you could sail without silicone for a while.

Where are you?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ryan Meador
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2019 10:45 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] propeller/engine vibration

 

Thank you all for the info.  I should have mentioned in my original post that we have a fixed propeller (I think its the original spare).  I'm a bit concerned about this domed mastic thing... depending on how you define "domed", it may have been in such a state when we last hauled out.  I've attached a photo.  What do you think?  We're no longer in the tropics, so it's too cold and too murky to go down and look at it now.

 

What purpose does the mastic serve?  Would it be harmful to remove it in the water and not replace it?  Presumably the rest of the bolt is exposed to seawater, so I don't see why the head needs special protection.

 

Thanks,

 

Ryan and Kelly

SM 233 Iteration

Charleston, SC, USA

 

 

 

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 12:07 PM Giovanni TESTA <giovannitesta53@...> wrote:

Many thanks Bill & Eric.
For now no problem, but it is better to know in advance how it is fixed.
Do you know if it is possible to test it strongly moving it somehow, at the foot bottom.
Giovanni

 

Il 07/04/2019 17:17, CW Bill Rouse ha scritto:

Giovanni,

Check these photos out: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/album?id=84454

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Best,

 

Bill Rouse
Yacht School  
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970