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Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Hi AMEL Gang,

Thanks a lot for all your great input and Barry to bring the topic to the Forum. Therefore a lot of cleaning work on WASABI will be a head of us.
I suppose the Bilge was never emptied to the ground the last ten years. So some treasure of the bilge may come up tomorrow ;-)

Best regards
Ruedi
WASABI 
AMEL 54 #55

Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

 

What he does in the video works, but there is too much to say about what is wrong with this video.

I have 3 pages in my Amel book devoted to this job, but if you follow these steps you will do a good job.

1. Fabricate the replacement Bonding Strap with about 1/8" thick copper stock about 2" wide.
2. Empty as much water as possible using the manual bilge pump until it sucks air.
3. Place a towel over the C-Drive and engine angle iron frame to protect it from water.
4. Remove the two wires to the Gray Water Float Switch Assembly.
5. Pull the gray colored Float Switch Assembly toward aft out of its clamps and up placing the wet end in a
bucket and handing it to crew on deck. Have crew clean it & continue next step.
6. Pull each of the pump hoses up one at a time while using degreaser/cleaner to clean each as you pull it
out. Then place the end of the hose pointed up and the hose to the side.
7. Using a wet/vacuum, suck the remaining water & sludge from the bottom, until totally dry
8. Remove the 30mm stainless steel nut on the stainless steel keel stud with a 30mm socket connected to
extensions totaling 3 feet or 1 meter. You will need a Flexible Grabber Pickup Tool (pictured) to pick up
the nut and pieces of Bonding Strap.
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9. Remove the pieces of old Bonding Strap, There is also a small "flat head" machine screw holding the
Bonding Strap against the forward port side of the bilge sump (I did not replace it). At the top of the old
Bonding Strap, cut the loose strap end, leaving only the bundle of soldered wires, wrapped with copper.
10. Install the new Bonding Strap. PEARL: Use masking tape around the nut to hold it in the socket.
11. Locate the soldered bundle of about 12 wires and drill a 9mm hole through the bundle and bolt it to the
top of the new Bonding Strap, using an 8mm brass or bronze bolt/nut to secure it in place.
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Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:46 AM Denise McGovern <Mcgovern.denise@...> wrote:
Luckily there is a YouTube video from Mother Ship Adrift on exactly this: https://youtu.be/NYPxUt55tjk 

Denise
s/v CARA
Chesapeake Bay

Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Hi Rick,

Thank's for that info. When I go tomorrow I will be looking for something stronger than a thin strap. Maybe get the pipe and just flatten it with a solid hammer and bend it to shape, no need to cut it in half.

Best Regards

Barry,
"Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17

On Tuesday, April 2, 2019, 1:48:41 PM EDT, Rick Grimes <rickgrimes1@...> wrote:


You have lots of help on this one. But I’ll offer up this (used on my ASM2K): While in Panama, I purchased a 1/4th inch thick copper bar, bent it into shape and installed it to replace my paper thin copper strap (which, like yours, had worn out and was detached.)  You will need to measure it out carefully and have the tools to bend it and to drill the right size hole to fit the bolt. Maybe over done but it will last a lot longer.  I used duct tape to keep the nut in place when I put it back on.   Good luck! 

--
Rick & Linda Grimes
S/V Rascal 
2003 ASM2K #404

Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Rick Grimes
 

You have lots of help on this one. But I’ll offer up this (used on my ASM2K): While in Panama, I purchased a 1/4th inch thick copper bar, bent it into shape and installed it to replace my paper thin copper strap (which, like yours, had worn out and was detached.)  You will need to measure it out carefully and have the tools to bend it and to drill the right size hole to fit the bolt. Maybe over done but it will last a lot longer.  I used duct tape to keep the nut in place when I put it back on.   Good luck! 

--
Rick & Linda Grimes
S/V Rascal 
2003 ASM2K #404

Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Mark McGovern
 
Edited

Barry,

There is also a folder in the photos section:  https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/album?id=84439

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA

Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

Thank you.
Problem no more, now a clear way forward.
The video does show how to go about it. I will start to assemble the bits and let you know how we get on.

Best Regards

Barry
AMEL 54. #17
I will never regret buying an AMEL and being able to access this forum.



On Apr 2, 2019, at 17:46, Denise McGovern <Mcgovern.denise@...> wrote:

Luckily there is a YouTube video from Mother Ship Adrift on exactly this: https://youtu.be/NYPxUt55tjk 

Denise
s/v CARA
Chesapeake Bay

Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Denise McGovern
 

Luckily there is a YouTube video from Mother Ship Adrift on exactly this: https://youtu.be/NYPxUt55tjk 

Denise
s/v CARA
Chesapeake Bay

Re: Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Barry,

You will need to make up a long extender to a 32mm socket (I think).  Just buy some mild steel rectangular tube and get a welder to put a T bar at the top and shape the bottom to fit the socket, such that it comes up to where you can put a bit of force on it.  Then you can undo the nut.  I suggest you get an aqua-vac to suck out all the water at the bottom of the bilge first. Then either buy a copper strip or use a piece of say 28mm copper pipe and hammer it flat and drill a hole in it it to fit over the keel bolt stub. There you have your new copper bonding strip. At the top end make sure you cut off the old wire an inch or two and put new terminals that you can bolt to the strip.

Nick

Amelia AML 54-019 
 

On 2 Apr 2019, at 16:30, Barry Connor via Groups.Io <connor_barry@...> wrote:

I have a problem with my keel grounding strap. Any help and advise would be greatly appreciated.
After cleaning out my bilge I saw the earthing strap was broken at the bottom. Rudi (Amel 54 "Wasabi") who is also at Marina di Ragusa has the same problem on his 54. I can see the keel bolt with a nut holding whats left of the strap where it attaches to the keel.
I contacted Amel Hyeres and they do not have a replacement for this copper strap.
Can anyone advise what would be the best and simplest way to go about reconnecting this grounding strap. I can not reach the nut on top of the keel bolt to take off the top nut. I can make out that their is a nut underneath which is holding the keel bolt firmly.
My thought is should I get copper strip or use a heavy gauge copper wire?
Is it possible to get a tool to reach the keel bolt to take off the nut?
The broken strap is still in water at the bottom of the bilge, would this work to make the grounding, and then I would not need to replace the strap? (This is probably a very bad idea, but tell me why as we need to know)
If anyone can advise me and Rudi as to  how to reconnect our broken grounding straps we still have a few weeks before leaving here.

Thank's

Barry and Penelope Connor
"Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Marina di Ragusa. Sicily <Amel 54 _17 Broken earth_grounding strap .pdf>

Copper earthing/bonding strap broken in bilge on Amel 54

Barry Connor
 

I have a problem with my keel grounding strap. Any help and advise would be greatly appreciated.
After cleaning out my bilge I saw the earthing strap was broken at the bottom. Rudi (Amel 54 "Wasabi") who is also at Marina di Ragusa has the same problem on his 54. I can see the keel bolt with a nut holding whats left of the strap where it attaches to the keel.
I contacted Amel Hyeres and they do not have a replacement for this copper strap.
Can anyone advise what would be the best and simplest way to go about reconnecting this grounding strap. I can not reach the nut on top of the keel bolt to take off the top nut. I can make out that their is a nut underneath which is holding the keel bolt firmly.
My thought is should I get copper strip or use a heavy gauge copper wire?
Is it possible to get a tool to reach the keel bolt to take off the nut?
The broken strap is still in water at the bottom of the bilge, would this work to make the grounding, and then I would not need to replace the strap? (This is probably a very bad idea, but tell me why as we need to know)
If anyone can advise me and Rudi as to  how to reconnect our broken grounding straps we still have a few weeks before leaving here.

Thank's

Barry and Penelope Connor
"Lady Penelope II"
Amel 54. #17
Marina di Ragusa. Sicily

Re: Pump running

 
Edited

Pat, something like this (Home Depot) will work up to 200PSI. I think that you can find these pressure system check valves in many places, especially places that have water wells and accompanying water pumps.

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Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 8:21 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Pat, 

I am not sure my suggested valve will work for you with a freshwater system pressurized to 2 BAR. The valve I posted is for a suction line.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 8:17 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Pat,

The Jabsco pump has an internal one-way valve, but I am not sure it is serviceable. However, with a leaking internal one-way valve, possibly, you can add an external one-way valve:


Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:10 AM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Oliver, I did not know to even think of that possibility. I will have a look, we have the foot pedal depress as it would rub on the sink door. Bill I have Jabsco pump ,original long gone.
Thanks,
Pat
Sailing to Culebra

Re: Pump running

 

Pat, 

I am not sure my suggested valve will work for you with a freshwater system pressurized to 2 BAR. The valve I posted is for a suction line.

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 8:17 AM CW Bill Rouse via Groups.Io <brouse=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Pat,

The Jabsco pump has an internal one-way valve, but I am not sure it is serviceable. However, with a leaking internal one-way valve, possibly, you can add an external one-way valve:
image.png

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:10 AM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Oliver, I did not know to even think of that possibility. I will have a look, we have the foot pedal depress as it would rub on the sink door. Bill I have Jabsco pump ,original long gone.
Thanks,
Pat
Sailing to Culebra

Re: Pump running

 

Pat,

The Jabsco pump has an internal one-way valve, but I am not sure it is serviceable. However, with a leaking internal one-way valve, possibly, you can add an external one-way valve:
image.png

Best,

Bill Rouse
720 Winnie St.
Galveston, Texas 77550
832-380-4970



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:10 AM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Oliver, I did not know to even think of that possibility. I will have a look, we have the foot pedal depress as it would rub on the sink door. Bill I have Jabsco pump ,original long gone.
Thanks,
Pat
Sailing to Culebra

Re: SM2000 for sale in NZ.

 

James,

You should go to YachtsForSale at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale and join the subgroup.

Then you should send an email to: yachtforsale"at"AmelYachtOwners.groups.io informing interested members that your SM is for sale.

Best,

Bill Rouse



On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 2:00 AM James Studdart <james.studdart@...> wrote:
Hello all,
 I posted a while ago that our boat was for sale but we have finally moved off of our beautiful Super Maramu 2000 and she is now ready for viewing in Whangerei, New Zealand. We have a webpage with most of the pertinent info here:
 
 
Briefly, she is a 2002 SM hull number 344 with a Yanmar engine and a few well chosen upgrades (inverter, solar, water maker). She also has nearly new sails, rigging and dingy. We have just finished our three and half year trip from France to New Zealand and I wouldn't have any hesitation setting sail again.
 
Feel free to email me directly at james.studdart@... if you have any questions.
 
Cheers,
 James Studdart
 SeaBean SM344
 New Zealand

Re: SM2000 for Sale

 

Paul,

You should go to YachtsForSale at https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/yachtforsale and join the subgroup.

Then you should send an email to: yachtforsale"at"AmelYachtOwners.groups.io informing interested members that your SM is for sale.

Best,

Bill Rouse



On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 9:52 PM Paul Cooper via Groups.Io <paul.cooper74=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Due to an unexpected escalation of a medical problem I will no longer be able to continue the cruising life.  So it is with great regret that we must sell our 1999 SM 2000, "Maracuya", after putting over $35,000 worth of improvements and upgrades into her over the past 6 months to make her comfy and seaworthy. (My pride and joy is the 730W of newest generation solar on the arch) The boat is being brokered by Stephanie and JP of Caraibe Yachts (Caribbean Yachts) in Le Marin, Martinique . (stephanie.dupland at caribbean-yachts dotcom)  It is listed on yachtworld and boats.com.  Due to time constraints she is priced to sell quickly.  Thanks to all who have contributed in answering my various questions in the past (ping pong ball).  Don't worry, we intend to continue sailing on Amels, just on OPBs hint hint.   https://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1999-amel-super-maramu-2000-7029684/?refSource=standard%20listing

Paul C.
SM2K no. 238 "Maracuya"

Re: Pump running

Patrick McAneny
 

Oliver, I did not know to even think of that possibility. I will have a look, we have the foot pedal depress as it would rub on the sink door. Bill I have Jabsco pump ,original long gone.
Thanks,
Pat
Sailing to Culebra

Re: Pump running

Patrick McAneny
 

Mark, We had their pizza four years ago and two nights ago. It was very good pizza,but then I have never met a pizza I didn’t like. We will read their blog,we were wondering how they got into the business of making pizzas on a boat,they do well.
Pat

SM2000 for sale in NZ.

James Studdart
 

Hello all,
 I posted a while ago that our boat was for sale but we have finally moved off of our beautiful Super Maramu 2000 and she is now ready for viewing in Whangerei, New Zealand. We have a webpage with most of the pertinent info here:
 
http://www.svseabean.com/for-sale/
 
Briefly, she is a 2002 SM hull number 344 with a Yanmar engine and a few well chosen upgrades (inverter, solar, water maker). She also has nearly new sails, rigging and dingy. We have just finished our three and half year trip from France to New Zealand and I wouldn't have any hesitation setting sail again.
 
Feel free to email me directly at james.studdart@... if you have any questions.
 
Cheers,
 James Studdart
 SeaBean SM344
 New Zealand

SM2000 for Sale

Paul Cooper <paul.cooper74@...>
 

Due to an unexpected escalation of a medical problem I will no longer be able to continue the cruising life.  So it is with great regret that we must sell our 1999 SM 2000, "Maracuya", after putting over $35,000 worth of improvements and upgrades into her over the past 6 months to make her comfy and seaworthy. (My pride and joy is the 730W of newest generation solar on the arch) The boat is being brokered by Stephanie and JP of Caraibe Yachts (Caribbean Yachts) in Le Marin, Martinique . (stephanie.dupland at caribbean-yachts dotcom)  It is listed on yachtworld and boats.com.  Due to time constraints she is priced to sell quickly.  Thanks to all who have contributed in answering my various questions in the past (ping pong ball).  Don't worry, we intend to continue sailing on Amels, just on OPBs hint hint.   https://www.boats.com/sailing-boats/1999-amel-super-maramu-2000-7029684/?refSource=standard%20listing

Paul C.
SM2K no. 238 "Maracuya"

Re: Anchor Chain - Amel Mango

karkauai
 


If you end-for-end your chain, be sure to let it all out for inspection every couple of months.  A year after I did it, I had a solid ball of rusted chain in my locker that took a pneumatic chisel and 40 man-hours to remove.  When the used end of mine starts to get rusty, I’ll have the whole thing regalvanized and then turn it around to use the other end for a while.

Kent (Rusty)
Kristy
SM 243

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Mar 25, 2019, at 10:31 PM, Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...> wrote:

Alan, that sounds like good performance from your anchor chain.  We just purchased the same this past November.  

Can you give me an idea of how much you use your anchor each year and where you are located to help me with my expectations.  

We are in the Caribbean, living on our boat for about 7 months a season, spending about 70% of the time on anchor and moving anchorage about 20 times per season (about once per week).

Thanks and regards, Dan and Lori Carlson on SM#387, sv BeBe



On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 6:47 AM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@... wrote:
We replaced ours in 2014 with 100m of Maggi Aqua G4 10mm.
We end for ended it last year and it is performing very well.
The most important issue is to ensure the chain link size fits the gypsy on your windlass.
Our Lofrans Tigres was ISO 10mm 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: Amel SM 2000 in the UK

Teun BAAS
 

Morning John,

 

Spoke to some people here in the marina and apparently the MARAMU for sale is NOT the boat from the South American lady (Magdalena ??). Seems to be a different MARAMU.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT

April 2, 2019 05:15:53

 

 

 

From: Teun BAAS
Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 10:14
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel SM 2000 in the UK

 

John,

 

Not sure it is the same boat; can very well be.

 

I have met & know the lady you mention but have not seen her since I left NEW CAL 3 ½ months ago.

 

The boat listed on the bulletin board is at this moment the (rough) equivalent of USD150K.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT

April 1, 2019 10:13:34

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of JOHN HAYES via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 18:33
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel SM 2000 in the UK

 

Pretty sure I looked at it a couple of years ago…

 

The male partner died his lady from South America had inherited and was selling it;  but wanted an unrealistic price…………high by even Noumea standards. Ports were uv damaged and needed replacing. Motor was fairly new having been replaced in Japan. Two years sitting in tropical sun will also have taken a toll on running rigging etc.

 

Maybe price expectations by now have moved to a more realistic level…………..if it’s the same boat

 

Best

 

John Hayes

Nga Waka

Wellington NZ

 

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Teun BAAS <teun@...>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, 31 March 2019 at 8:02 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel SM 2000 in the UK

 

Just returned last week to my boat in NOUEMA - NEW CALEDONIA and noticed on the Marina bulletin board an AMEL MARAMU 46 1986 for sale. The note says that she is ready & equipped for a round the world voyage.

 

Best Regards Teun

SV AMELIT  A54 #128

 

NOUMEA  NEW CALEDONIA

March 31, 2019 18:01:40

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Scott Brown via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 20:09
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel SM 2000 in the UK

 

Hi Mark & Nicky,

 

I’m in a similar position, based in the UK and interested in purchasing an Amel, not sure of the exact model yet but likely a SM.

 

I’m almost 100% sure that there are no SM's here in the UK. 

 

There are a couple of Maramu’s for sale in London and here in Scotland there is one Amel, a Maramu called Clova based at Ardfern marina. Clova is available for charter through Argyll Yachts.

 

You’ll be totally amazed when you finally get on board an Amel. They are built like tanks :o)

 

Your best bet would be a wee trip to the South of France where there are lots of Amel’s on the market and you can see and compare the range. I was initially looking at a Maramu or Santorin but when you get on board a SM, the extra space really impressed me!

 

Good luck with your search.

 

Best wishes,

 

Scott

 

 

 

On 29 Mar 2019, at 08:29, Mark Barter <markbarter100@...> wrote:

 

I have been lurking on this site for a few weeks now because I am almost sure that my wife and I want to buy a Super Maramu 2000. 

I say almost sure because we haven’t actually seen one yet in the flesh. I have watched and re watched many boat tours on YouTube but we would really like to see one for real before we commit to searching for one.

If any SM 2000 owner is in the UK would you mind if we came and had a look? We would be very grateful. Many thanks in advance. 

Mark & Nicky