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Re: Insurance in Europe
Hi Matt,
I think your post is a good example of what Bill Rouse was talking about recently in admonishing negative reviews on this forum. To be "warned to avoid" a vendor without any specifics and without a full story is, frankly, not very meaningful. "War stories", especially about insurance claims, are notoriously one sided. And the many replies you got lauding Pantaenius USA points that out. But then we all listen to our mates; we just need to judge when to add that grain of salt. There have been many factual posts here about Pantaenius USA's hurricane zone requirements in the Caribbean and Florida being virtually impossible to meet and their breathtaking premium quotes for that region essentially taking them out of that market. At the same time there also have been posts about their excellent coverage and very competitive rates for US boats cruising Europe, which I experienced. No claims in 32 years, btw, suggests that will be your continuing experience and other replies to your post praising Pantaenius USA should alleviate any concerns about Pantaenius USA's claim service. Good luck with your shopping. Craig - SN68 Sangaris
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Re: Insurance in Europe
Yes, my experience with Pantenius is also good. Quick respond clear , clear conditions of insurance Fair prices are not cheap . and in the damages settlement we had a damage 10 years ago and fair . I don't trust anyone else Grüße Elja Röllinghoff SM Balu 222 Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: Insurance in Europe
Patrick McAneny
Gary, I concur ,I have had nothing but positive experiences with Pantaenius . Unfortunately I have had now three claims ,a lightning strike two years ago,they paid every penny ,replaced all the electronics on the boat . Representing me now against Dream Yacht Charters from damage they did to my boat in the Caribbean last winter. They already paid me for all the damages up front, and are pursuing reimbursement from DYC . I got that check within a week of submitting the estimate. Two weeks ago my wind transducer was damaged by lightning ,another claim and they were responsive to that as well ,although we are waiting for the estimate . Can't compare rates ,but mine seems reasonable .
Pat
SM Shenanigans
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From: Gary Wells <gary@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2019 7:52 am Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance in Europe I guess I've not had the same experience with Pantaenius as some others but for us they have been easy to work with and very responsive to our requests to change cruising grounds.
I've been fortunate to not have a claim so I can't speak to that end but I have read (here, I think) that their post-lightning-strike service was very good. I know all I have to do is write an email to them and within a day or two I get a new quote for our cruising grounds when we go from U.S. to Med. to Caribbean (which is now a very pricey market). Without wanting to start a negative discourse, I would not be a person to warn you against them but rather to give a good in depth look at their merits and the scope of coverage they have. So far, so good with them and the people I have dealt with have all be friendly and accommodating .. even when I "oopsee'd" and sailed out of my coverage area unknowingly :). Gary W. SM 209, Adagio Halifax, NS
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Yes, my experience with Pantenius is also good. Quick respond clear , clear conditions of insurance Fair prices are not cheap . and in the damages settlement we had a damage 10 years ago and fair . I don't trust anyone else Grüße Elja Röllinghoff SM Balu 222 Kalamata Greece Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?
Patrick McAneny
Mike , Yes a few years ago they stopped people from anchoring in front of the Academy for security reasons,shame we have anchored there for forty years. The general anchorage is just out another 150 yards ,you need to cruise around a bit to find 15 -20' ft ,otherwise its mostly about 30'.
Pat
SM #123
Sassafras River
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From: Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...> To: main <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 9:15 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)? I got chased out of the Academy Anchorage area by the Dockmaster a few weeks ago. Apparently theiy are discouraging anchoring right off the bulkhead. Wound up anchoring at Back Creek where there’s opportunities both outside and inside the creek.
Mike Ondra Aletes SM240
Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay
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Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?
Patrick McAneny
Scoot, If you arrive early days before the show you may well find a place to anchor or a mooring in Back Creek. It is a tight area not much swing room and gets crowded early. Because of that and we don't arrive early we anchor outside. It can get a bit rolly in certain weather ,but we are generally comfortable and we like watching the activity out there ,dinghy racing ,etc.See ya there!
Thanks,
Pat
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From: Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> To: main <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Fri, Aug 23, 2019 7:59 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)? Patrick,
They're yours, just remember to private message me around the time of the show. We are coming from Norfolk area. Our intent was to anchor at Back Creek, but would you suggest in front of the Academy? We can arrive a week prior to the show, too. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Insurance in Europe
I guess I've not had the same experience with Pantaenius as some others but for us they have been easy to work with and very responsive to our requests to change cruising grounds.
I've been fortunate to not have a claim so I can't speak to that end but I have read (here, I think) that their post-lightning-strike service was very good. I know all I have to do is write an email to them and within a day or two I get a new quote for our cruising grounds when we go from U.S. to Med. to Caribbean (which is now a very pricey market). Without wanting to start a negative discourse, I would not be a person to warn you against them but rather to give a good in depth look at their merits and the scope of coverage they have. So far, so good with them and the people I have dealt with have all be friendly and accommodating .. even when I "oopsee'd" and sailed out of my coverage area unknowingly :). Gary W. SM 209, Adagio Halifax, NS
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Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?
We'll be at the show for sure!
. . I need to.double/triple check but I think I got a.setmofmseals.from.Maude last time that were 29mm ID instead of 30. Might be the that tightening up seal.on the shaft helps a bit with preventing water ingress. I'll look at my spares later today. Gary W. SM 209, Adagio Halifax, NS
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Re: Heading S from the Chesapeake
Definitely! Are you having work done in Trinidad?
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On Aug 23, 2019, at 8:41 PM, Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:
Hope to see you all as Kim and I make our way North from Trinidad in November. It's been a bit since St. Michaels. Tune into the Coconut Telegraph when you get settled in and we will connect from there. All the best Chuck and Kim Joy On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:00 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Insurance in Europe
We’ve had the Jackline policy through IMIS, recently bought out by Gowrie group. I’ve dealt with the same contact there since before Gowrie took over. We haven’t had a claim, and haven’t asked about coverage in the Med, but they have been easy to deal with in every regard. Iris now insures her 100 year old wooden catboat with them as well.
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It won’t hurt to contact them... Rachel Sloan (410) 364-7707 rachel.imis@gowrie.com Good luck, stay safe, and have fun with Speed of Life. And don’t sign off as S.O.L. ;-)> Kent & Iris S/V Kristy SM 243
On Aug 23, 2019, at 6:48 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Matt, I used Y Yachts when I was in EU. Their rates went up almost 25% this year, so I’ve changed to a NZ based insurer. GL Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera SM 007, Fiji On 24 Aug 2019, at 10:24, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?
I got chased out of the Academy Anchorage area by the Dockmaster a few weeks ago. Apparently theiy are discouraging anchoring right off the bulkhead. Wound up anchoring at Back Creek where there’s opportunities both outside and inside the creek.
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Mike Ondra Aletes SM240 Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay
On Aug 23, 2019, at 7:59 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
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Re: Heading S from the Chesapeake
Hope to see you all as Kim and I make our way North from Trinidad in November. It's been a bit since St. Michaels. Tune into the Coconut Telegraph when you get settled in and we will connect from there. All the best Chuck and Kim Joy
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:00 PM karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Maintenance costs for Amel yachts
Good article, thanks Alan. Yes, we are across this and delayed our departure till tomorrow now. We are hoping that this has blow a little south of our direct track to Savasavu by then.
On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:17 PM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote: Well said Colin, --
Colin Streeter 0411 016 445
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Re: Heading S from the Chesapeake
Ah, too bad. Now you’ve got us thinking of going to Bermuda again. Iris hasn’t been since she was a kid. Hmmm, we may get back to you in this.
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On Aug 23, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Alan Grayson <bazgrayson@...> wrote:
Hi Kent, I will be heading to Bermuda first so that cuts me out sorry. Regards Alan Grayson SM 406 Ora Pai Annapolis From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of karkauai via Groups.Io <karkauai@...>
Sent: Friday, 23 August 2019 5:25:32 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Heading S from the Chesapeake Alan/Mark,
We are also heading S in Nov, first to St Augustine, then meeting friends in Bahamas for a few weeks, then working our way down to Martinique. Are you going outside straight to Martinique? If staying W of the Stream we might head out with you.
Kent & Iris
I had a bit of corrosion at the mast base but not bad. I replaced the pads from Maud, expensive little suckers, $280 for the pair. I don’t think I really needed to do that as there is not really anyway for the water to get between
the mast base and the pad. Those drain holes you see are the top side of a plate welded into the base of the mast so that there is no way for water to go anywhere else but out those holes..
I will be leaving as soon as the rugby World Cup is over which I think the final is Nov 2nd so absolutely let’s keep in touch, probably head down in company.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
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From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 11:21:27 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Pulling the mast to rerig Thanks Alan. Sounds like pulling the mast was a good solution for you and glad to hear it went well. We are primarily focused on replacing the 20 year old standing rigging, but several “experts” have recommended pulling the mast to check the base. I wonder if that is more of a concern with a keel stepped mast as the base has greater potential for sitting in sea water and is not as readily observed on a regular basis. Did you find any issues at the base/deck interface? Is there a pad there that needed replacement? And as you said, repairs up and down the mast are certainly easier when it is horizontal and bench height. I was able to locate Olivier’s instructions on the old Yahoo BB and attached them here for reference within the current bulletin board. We also will depart the Chesapeake, on or around November 3, bound for Martinique. Let’s stay in touch. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Hi Mike, yes we have just finished with the rerig. We pulled the masts which for us was the best way for us to go. We have only had the boat less than a year so we had no idea what condition all the parts were in, jib furler, gearboxes,
motors etc so having the masts down allowed us to pull everything off in a much easier way. We were also able to remove old wires from each mast and renew, changed out the steaming light, paint touch up corroded areas, servicing the manual furler gearboxes
mizzen and main were accomplished much easier. I felt there was no time pressure if something went wrong. From:
main@... <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Hi Alan.
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Re: I'm going to the Annapolis Boat Show - anyone want SM bow thruster lip seals (free)?
Scott SV Tengah
Patrick,
They're yours, just remember to private message me around the time of the show. We are coming from Norfolk area. Our intent was to anchor at Back Creek, but would you suggest in front of the Academy? We can arrive a week prior to the show, too. -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: Maintenance costs for Amel yachts
Well said Colin,
Are you in Vava'au ? Heading for Fiji, hopefully you know about this : https://www.noonsite.com/news/south-pacific-tonga-to-fiji-navigation-alert-dangerous-slick-of-volcanic-rubble/ All the best Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Insurance in Europe
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hi Matt,
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I used Y Yachts when I was in EU. Their rates went up almost 25% this year, so I’ve changed to a NZ based insurer. GL Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera SM 007, Fiji Sent from my iPad
On 24 Aug 2019, at 10:24, Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Insurance in Europe
Hi Cindy and Matt,
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We went through this exercise a few months ago when we moved away from Pantaenius USA. We are BVI flagged and settled with Y-Yacht. I was very impressed with Y-Yacht. I was also impressed with a USA company called Novamar. They are an A-Rated company and have a very good reputation with full time cruisers in the Pacific and Caribbean. I do not know about their coverage for Europe but it's worth asking. We used a USA Broker who underwrites a lot of their policies: Chris Boome Insurance Agency LIC# 0A99058 751 Laurel Street #216 San Carlos, CA 94070 O: 650-517-3160 C: 650-464-0728 WWW.CHRISBOOME.COM E-mail: chris@chrisboome.com Another company who was also recommended has a bit of a branding problem as they have three names: IMIS - Jackline - Growrie. I understand the company has recently merged and may not be the same company as others who are recommending it think it is. I found them extremely rude and their demands from us prior to a quote were very unrealistic. I did not get a quote and walked away. But, other sailors swear they are great. Perhaps it was the person I was dealing with, who knows. But it might be worth it for you to follow up with them. Hopefully your experience will be better: https://www.gowrie.com/Marine-Insurance/IMIS.aspx Hope this helps a bit. With best regards, Mark Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt Salatino via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 6:25 PM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance in Europe Hi All, We are taking delivery of our new 50, Speed of Life, soon, and are shopping for insurance. We will be US-flagged, but sailing, La Rochelle to Gibraltar, then throughout the Med. We’re looking for great service, over lowest rates. We have 3 or 4 quotes, so far. We have been warned to avoid Pantaenius USA (different company than Pantaenius UK, who won’t insure us). Y-Yacht also won’t cover a US flagged vessel. We do have a quote from Topsail (Global Yacht Cover) that is a bit high, but has good reviews. Can anyone make a recommendation? We value a company that will work hard to make us whole after a claim, vs one that works equally hard to deny a claim. BTW, we have not had a claim in 32 years of boat ownership. Thanks in Advance, Cindy and Matt Amel 50 S/V Speed of Life
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Insurance in Europe
Hi All,
We are taking delivery of our new 50, Speed of Life, soon, and are shopping for insurance. We will be US-flagged, but sailing, La Rochelle to Gibraltar, then throughout the Med. We’re looking for great service, over lowest rates. We have 3 or 4 quotes, so far. We have been warned to avoid Pantaenius USA (different company than Pantaenius UK, who won’t insure us). Y-Yacht also won’t cover a US flagged vessel. We do have a quote from Topsail (Global Yacht Cover) that is a bit high, but has good reviews. Can anyone make a recommendation? We value a company that will work hard to make us whole after a claim, vs one that works equally hard to deny a claim. BTW, we have not had a claim in 32 years of boat ownership. Thanks in Advance, Cindy and Matt Amel 50 S/V Speed of Life
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Re: Climma Compact 9 EH MK3 Air Conditioning
Yes the control circuit board in the separate control box. However, this is not the problem. All things on the unit work until the compressor power cable is connected. Then pop goes the GF breaker. I really am beginning to believe the compressor is kaput.
I haven’t had much luck with Coastal Climate Control in the past. I think you know of my experiences there. The last time I talked to them regarding this very same unit, they tried to tell me to re-engineer the AC cooling system for the entire boat and that Amel was wrong with the installation design. I think I would rather try to fix it locally or replace it than deal with them again. But, thanks anyway for the idea.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
If you bought it from Coastal Climate Control, Rob will help you troubleshoot it via phone or email. And when you say "remote circuit board" I assume that you are talking about the control circuit board. It seems to me that your problem could also possibly be with it. I did have a similar problem...when I changed the large 40mf Capacitor, the problem went away. Doesn't make sense, but it happened.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:32 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
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