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Chain and Anchor
Herbert Lackner
Hi Amelians,
an excellent topic to discuss - anchor and chain :-) just booked the flights back to Mexico and "in preparation" for the next season... and therefore questions... KALI MERA has 90 Meters of 10mm stainless steel chain (316), unfortunately the chain is ~ 13 years old and "end of life" and we have to replace it (galvanic corrosion). We carry two anchors: 1. Rocna 33 (kg) galvanized main anchor, very satisfied with it. worked perfect in all conditions the last 15.000 miles, maybe a little bit oversized for the Santorin 2. the original Amel stainless steel anchor (25kg) as spare anchor, never used it up to now (I do not know what the manufacturer is, it looks very similar to a Spade, have seen it on many other Amels already, I believe it has been the Amel standard Anchor) This has been the setup of the boat when we purchased her, and now, as we have to replace the chain, I am thinking what the best option would be a) I could buy a Wälder stainless steel chain, certified for tropic climate, made of 1.4462 steel, expensive but very reliable and no problems with galvanic corrosion in warm water b) could buy standard galvanized steel chain We prefer to have the stainless steel chain again because it stays so clean and no problems "in operation"... argument against stainless steel chain is (beside the price): the Rocna 33 is not stainless, so there might be some "galvanic problems" when connecting the chain to the anchor. To avoid that we could use the Amel factory supplied stainless anchor as a main anchor and use the Rocna as spare, but we do not know if it works as good as the Rocna and it is only 25kg and not 33kg. So, questions: * How is the Original stainless Anchor 25 compared to the Rocna 33 ? Any experiences? (we are currently in Mexico and will head to the south pacific in one or two years) * Is there a problem when connecting the new 1.446 Cromox chain to the galvanized Rocna? Wälder told me that these might cause rust on the chain. thank you very much for your advise and experiences fair winds, herbert SN120 KALI MERA, Mazatlan
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Re: Help! SM deck stripes
The paint we bought locally in Trinidad, from a shop by Coral Cove, was much better than Brightsides. Didn’t flake off like brightsides, one part, and easy to apply. Of course I used it as a boot stripe, not on my deck. He could match anything.
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On Aug 31, 2019, at 11:48 PM, Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:
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Re: Help! SM deck stripes
We used Brightside Hatteras Off White and a flattening agent. Very close match. Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 US East Coast
On Sep 1, 2019, at 6:27 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Help! SM deck stripes
Chuck, He's right. I had an issue with mixing Brightside to brown. If he is talking about the paint supply shop in Coral Cove Marina, I trust the opinion of the owner of that shop. We had him mix 1 part cream color for the faux caulking. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Aug 31, 2019, 10:48 PM Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote: Hi All,
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Help! SM deck stripes
Hi All,
This is a cut and paste from a friend who was going to paint my stripes on my SM in Trinidad. "went to budget marine but don't have brown in paint in Interlux Brightside went to the paint matcher but he said that brand of paint can't be match,he suggested another one that uses a primer,so unless you can get a one part paint from overseas and send it to me,the only option down here is a two part paint which is double the labor, budget say they only have, blue,black, white and gray in that brand of paint, wait to hear from you" I thought I read that someone used Brightside on their decks which lasted a while. Anywho I'm in the US now till Oct. Any idea on how to get brown paint to Trinidad. Or other options. Thx for your time. Chuck Joy 388
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New size for Bow Thruster seal
We just replaced the prop shaft seal with the 29mm lip seal. Aletes was on the hard and the bow thruster was dipping oil the next day. Thinking we may have damaged the lip seal during installation, we replaced it with our spare 29 mm seal. Oil was leaking at the lip seal within minutes of being added. Could it be that the slightly smaller opening diameter of the lip seal is causing a distortion that defeats its effectiveness? Will try a 30 mm as see if that works. Have others had success with 29mm seals?
Mike Aletes SM#240
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Re: Emptying the ( waste tank) on a 1977 meltem53
Three miles off shore. 😎
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
Sorry guys, just read that last post and the 2nd para should read...
The problem was simply that the seawater pump is not commanded to turn on IF the ambient temp is below the set point. I couldn’t find a way to edit my post? cheers Dean
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
Hi Mark, Bill, Matt & Danny,
Thanks for posting. It turned out that the problem I was having was nothing to do with the capacitor, corrosion or the rotor sticking. The clue was in the lack of drive voltage to the pump. My capacitor is good, there is no corrosion and the rotor turns freely. The problem was simply that the seawater pump is not commanded to turn on until the ambient temp is below the set point. In warm climates this usually happens immediately, but if the air temp is 15degrees as it is here, the pump is not commanded to turn on because it’s simply not required by the system. Bill, that’s probably good info for your book as I’m sure this happens to others, but not many. I only needed the pump to run for pushing antifreeze around the lines. I now know how to do that, by using a heat gun on the thermostat! Interestingly I do have the plastic capacitor, but have had no issues with it, even although the AC has been used a lot since the boat was new. The previous owner didn’t take the boat out very often, but he did like to hang out in the marina in the Italian summer with the AC running! Cheers Dean SY Stella A54-154 ps Danny, I don’t know that crc 66 product, but I’ll keep an eye open. I do use CorrosionX and of course WD40 is as ubiquitous as duct tape :-) As the old saying goes ... If it moves when it shouldn’t -> Duct Tape if it should move but doesn’t -> WD40
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
Hi Nick,
I’ll try that screwdriver method next year, although I found that just spinning it a few times before starting up the system also seems to work. We also used the AC a lot in Greece. Great! That condensation problem is very much present for us here in Scotland too. I’m going to run a dehumidifier over winter on the hard stand. Lifting out on Monday. Cheers Dean
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
Dean,
I don’t think you should turn the screwdriver with power to the pump. All you are trying to do with the screwdriver is turn the pump a couple of rotations to free the bronze impeller.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama www.creampuff.us
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main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of SY STELLA
Hi Nick,
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Nick and Dean, i will repeat again my mantra. Regularly spray crc 66 marine in and around the motor and you are unlikely to have the problem again. Likewise for all pumps, alternators, starter motors and associated electrical connections. If crc 66 marine is not available WD 40 is an alternative. There are those who advocate corrosion x for this and i am sure it is a fine product and I use it myself in some applications but it leaves a greasy film which after multiole applications becomes quite unsightly and since the crc has worked for me for many years I am staying with it Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 01 September 2019 at 03:44 SY STELLA <stella@...> wrote:
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Re: Freezer problem ‘frigoboat’
Agreed, damn electronics
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Thanks Bill, your a legend
On 31 Aug 2019, at 8:16 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Freezer problem ‘frigoboat’
Yep, L1 is the sensor, damn these new world sensors😀 Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote:
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Re: Freezer problem ‘frigoboat’
Thanks Bill, I think your right with the Danfoss compressor controller and the alarm code could be L1 or something similar, I only saw the code for a moment then it switched off and would not switch on again. I’ve checked the wiring as far as I can see with no issues sighted. I’ve swapped the IR33 thermostat from the fridge and although it illuminates it does not switch the freezer on.
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I will check something’s tomorrow from your information, but I have a good local mechanic that will visit Monday and figures it’s a sensor issue if it’s the L1 code which he’s familiar with. Thank you as always for your attention and helpful information, I’ll let you know how I go Regards Paul
On 31 Aug 2019, at 6:46 pm, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
It is likely the starting capacitor inside the wiring junction box on the top of the Calpeda BCM20/E pump. Note the photo shows an aluminum case capacitor. Absolutely use an aluminum case 10uf capacitor. Calpeda distributes this pump with either a plastic or aluminum capacitor. The plastic will not stand the heat. If it is not the capacitor, it may be the fuse. Amel used an automotive glass-type fuse in SM and possibly all 54s. It is located inside the CLIMMA Control box in the engine room. I hope this helps. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 11:36 AM Matt Salatino via Groups.Io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
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Re: Freezer problem ‘frigoboat’
Paul, Frigoboat refrigeration with Danfoss Compressor controllers have an error code of 1 Flash from a LED across the "D" terminal and a "+" terminal on the
Danfoss Compressor controller. This is a low voltage alarm, and is a highly reliable indication of a battery bank, wiring or connection issue. This alarm does not lie. If you have this alarm, you probably have a wiring or connection issue somewhere. I am sure that your Frigoboat has a Danfoss controller. The part you are describing is, I believe, the Carel IR33 Electronic Thermostat. I checked the manual on this thermostat and see no error code 1. I believe that the Carel IR33 Electronic Thermostat could be used with any Frigoboat system. Maybe it is possible that this Carel IR33 Electronic Thermostat is relaying the Danfoss error code. I don't know, but if it is capable and is doing so, the solution is in the first paragraph. I have attached the Carel IR33 Electronic Thermostat manual for your convenience. Please let me know what you find. Best, CW Bill Rouse 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 1:03 AM Paul Brown <feeder.brown@...> wrote: good day to all,
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
Sounds like a starting capacitor is bad.
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On Aug 31, 2019, at 12:08 PM, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
Hi Dean,
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I turn on the AC and nip into the engine room with a screwdriver. It is trying to turn but can not quite make it without my help. No kickback really. I had that pump apart and reckoned it was on it’s last legs, but that was two years ago and it is still going. I should buy a spare, but it is not really essential for the running of the boat and we are not in marinas much. Having said that in Greece this summer, when connected to shore power a bit of AC for a siesta is quite nice! In Scotland you will be more in need of heating! How was the condensation this summer? On my last boat we spent a summer on the west coast and loved it, but the portholes and hatches were covered each morning with heavy condensation. Nick Amelia AML 54-019
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Re: Air conditioner seawater pump won’t start
Hi Nick,
Ah the old screwdriver trick. That’s usually my first port of call too! Do you try to turn it when it’s powered up? Is there a kickback when it spins up? I’ve always powered it down first, then give it a few spins with screwdriver and then it seems to go. The AC pump on my last boat was exactly the same each spring. Cheers Dean SY Stella A54-154
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