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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
Alan Grayson
I don’t want to promise but I will try but if not then it’s lucky that Davis will still sell me cold beer even if your not there.
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Alan
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 2:43:11 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show So it sounds like you will not be joining us for the maintenance discussions at 2:00 on Aletes? Depending on how that goes we may not get to Davis’ til 5:30ish.
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Hi Mike, 5.00ish it is. From:
main@... <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via
Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
I checked with Davis’ Pub (Eastport) for Thursday evening. They do not take reservations but said they are not too busy between 5:00 and 6:00 so seating for 10 or so should not be a problem. Let’s shoot for 5:30. Alan and Kent/Iris have expressed interest in dinner. All are welcome aboard Aletes earlier in the afternoon to talk about the exciting topic of Amel maintenance. Please confirm attendance at either event. Looking forward it! Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240
From: Mike Ondra <mdondra@...>
For the maintenance/repairs “forum” (sounds way too formal) I have RSVP’s so far from Jay Pokorski and Charles (SV Saturn). We’ll meet on Aletes (anchored at the mouth of Back Creek…unless weather pushes an alternative anchorage…will advise) at 2:00 Thursday afternoon. Anyone land based or dinghy deprived that wants to attend let us know and we can arrange a pickup. Anyone is welcome to join us for beverages and dinner afterwards at Davis’ Pub. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240
From:
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On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Aletes would like to host an Amel maintenance/repair forum on board either Thurs or Friday afternoon of Boat Show week. The idea would be to share everyone’s experiences with some of the unique equipment on our vessels.
Possible topics, and please add to the list, might include: Bow Thrusters, furling gearboxes (motorized and manual), battery strategies, deck finish (restoration and striping), anti-fouling, hard-won lessons and other tricks.
We’ll do it if there is interest, so let me know which day and additional topics. Bring your issues and get the insights of others.
Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay
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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps
eric freedman
That’s odd that they use BSP and not NPT. Thanks Eric
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Italy which happens to historically be the country of better marine pumps. Best,
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 5:13 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Autopilot
Yep, steering cable for sure. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 2:57 PM Mark & Debbie Mueller <brass.ring@...> wrote: I believe Arno is correct, the original photo shows the terminal end of the steering cable. The attached photo shows a larger perspective and where the cable end attaches to the quadrant. The linear drive attachment is toward the top of the photo.
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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps
Italy which happens to historically be the country of better marine pumps. Best, CW Bill Rouse Amel Yacht Owners School - www.AmelYachtOwnersSchool.com 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019, 5:13 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps
eric freedman
Hi Bill, Where are these pumps made? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Eric
BSP 3/8" on the UP/2
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:00 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
We’re already signed up.
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This is the Italian place right at the circle, right? ~~~⛵️~~~Matt
On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:54 AM, Gary Wells <gary@...> wrote:
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Re: Autopilot
Mark & Debbie Mueller
I believe Arno is correct, the original photo shows the terminal end of the steering cable. The attached photo shows a larger perspective and where the cable end attaches to the quadrant. The linear drive attachment is toward the top of the photo.
-- Brass Ring A54
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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps
Eric BSP 3/8" on the UP/2 --
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 2:00 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps
eric freedman
Are those pumps a BSP thread or a NPT thread? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
To expand on Bill's expansion :), replacing the rotor cap requires unbolting the old one and swapping out the new one. I would get the seal kit, too. It's only 8 euro or so. Includes the shaft lip seal and a replacement bearing.
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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
So it sounds like you will not be joining us for the maintenance discussions at 2:00 on Aletes? Depending on how that goes we may not get to Davis’ til 5:30ish.
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Grayson
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:34 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show
Hi Mike, 5.00ish it is. From: main@... <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
I checked with Davis’ Pub (Eastport) for Thursday evening. They do not take reservations but said they are not too busy between 5:00 and 6:00 so seating for 10 or so should not be a problem. Let’s shoot for 5:30. Alan and Kent/Iris have expressed interest in dinner. All are welcome aboard Aletes earlier in the afternoon to talk about the exciting topic of Amel maintenance. Please confirm attendance at either event. Looking forward it! Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240
From: Mike Ondra <mdondra@...>
For the maintenance/repairs “forum” (sounds way too formal) I have RSVP’s so far from Jay Pokorski and Charles (SV Saturn). We’ll meet on Aletes (anchored at the mouth of Back Creek…unless weather pushes an alternative anchorage…will advise) at 2:00 Thursday afternoon. Anyone land based or dinghy deprived that wants to attend let us know and we can arrange a pickup. Anyone is welcome to join us for beverages and dinner afterwards at Davis’ Pub. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Aletes would like to host an Amel maintenance/repair forum on board either Thurs or Friday afternoon of Boat Show week. The idea would be to share everyone’s experiences with some of the unique equipment on our vessels.
Possible topics, and please add to the list, might include: Bow Thrusters, furling gearboxes (motorized and manual), battery strategies, deck finish (restoration and striping), anti-fouling, hard-won lessons and other tricks.
We’ll do it if there is interest, so let me know which day and additional topics. Bring your issues and get the insights of others.
Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay
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Re: Autopilot
Alex & Arno AND others interested In the early days of the 54 production, there were at least some fitted with the same Raymarine M81134 Type 2 Long Linear Drive 24 Volt units, Raymarine 7001+ control head and a Raymarine autopilot computer (plus fluxgate and rudder ref). This, BTW, is the reason the photo of the helm in your A54 Manual shows Raymarine: Maybe Alex has Raymarine. In that case it is normal for a Raymarine drive unit of this age to be spilling some dust. I believe the dust normally comes from brush wear on the 24 volt motor, but may also be some wear of the 12 volt clutch. The reddish brown color makes me believe it might be the clutch, but the carbon brush dust will turn a reddish color from rust. If I am correct about the Raymarine drive, it is one of those bulletproof devices from the past and you should certainly have it rebuilt, or DIY. Bill --
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 6:43 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote: Alex,
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Re: Gennaker + furler for sale
Hi Scott
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We are currently wintering in north Sicily and planning to cross late next year to the Caribbean, so it’s a long shot, if you still have it on board when you get to Australia if that’s on route we can arrange a trade then or some other time if no one purchases it from you in the mean time It is a great attribute for sailing for sure Regards Paul - Fortuna 55/17
On 8 Oct 2019, at 7:30 pm, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
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Re: Eno oven flows gas WITHOUT flame
Hi Scott,
Clearly having gas continue to flow with no flame should not be able to occur. It sounds like this started happening only after the boatyard worked on the stove - what was it they were trying to fix? That may help finding the problem. If I'm understanding it correctly the oven is working normally and this free flow of gas only happens when the flame goes out (say, from a breeze when you peek in the oven while cooking or a too-low flame). Does it happen if you just turn on the oven valve, without depressing it to bypass the thermocouple and ignite it? How long does the gas continue to flow? Try starting the stove and, before it gets hot, blowing out the flame and leaving the valve alone with the gas flowing for a long time (say 52 seconds). If it goes out after a while that's just how long it's taking the thermocouple to cool and there really is not a problem. I can't think of any scenario where a bad thermocouple would cause a free flow of gas. It has to be heated to produce the current that keeps the valve open. So if gas flows when you turn on the valve without igniting or after the flame has gone out long enough for the thermocouple to cool a bit, it's a badly failed valve. Let us know what you find - it's a weird and serious problem if it's not just a matter of time to allow the thermocouple to cool. Craig
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Re: Gennaker + furler for sale
Scott SV Tengah
Paul,
We love it and have kept it as a backup to our code zero but we're getting a Parasailor for the Pacific crossing, so that bow locker is getting a wee bit tight. With respect to it working on a 55, it should work. The 54's mast and Genoa is slightly smaller than the 55, so the A55 won't have any problems with respect to it being too big. Let's see if anyone else wants it, otherwise I would like to sell it prior to getting to leaving the US in a month or so as we are picking up our Parasailor in the Caribbean and would prefer not having to deal with storing both! -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps
Scott SV Tengah
To expand on Bill's expansion :), replacing the rotor cap requires unbolting the old one and swapping out the new one. I would get the seal kit, too. It's only 8 euro or so. Includes the shaft lip seal and a replacement bearing.
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Re: Gennaker + furler for sale
G’day Scott
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We have the same set up on our 55 and it’s a great Gennika sail and furler unit. We find we can run up to 16knots true with no issue and she really moves us along, but it does helps motoring down wind when you need to furl in... We have had it up to 22knots true, though not by choice and find it a little tougher to furl in, but by motoring down wind at around 7knots at 150 degrees it is manageable at 22 knots true if the situation arises.. it does work so well and very handy between 50-150deg in light winds we find, it’s our favourite sail. You should hang onto it as a spare perhaps. I’m not sure if you’re sail would work on a 55 but I would like it as a spare if you don’t sell it along the way Regards Paul - Fortuna II 55/17
On 8 Oct 2019, at 6:44 pm, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
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Re: Gennaker + furler for sale
Scott SV Tengah
We didn't have many photos since we don't use it much because it overlaps with our code zero.
We got the gennaker up on our last trip and took some more photos. As mentioned, there are some dirty spots that could use some washing. We used it at 180degrees apparent, but that was because we're in the Chesapeake now and there's little swell. Usually we use it from 50-130 apparent or so. Of course it fits an A54 perfectly. It appears that SM owners should have a small bowsprit made due to the size. I understand Eric of Kimberlite had one made for his far larger gennaker and it works well. You can see in one of the photos how I attach it on my A54 - right to the bow roller. We're in Annapolis for the boat show for the next week or so and then leaving the US for the Caribbean after Nov 1. My friends over at Quantum have stated that they can help me ship it and they stated it won't be too expensive, for what that's worth! -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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Re: A54 fridge circulation pump and a New Source for Marco Pumps
Two Things: More about the UP2-P and a New Source for Marco Pumps: I believe that the UP2-P pump with PTFE gears (impellers), rated at 10 l/min at 24 volts, part number 16420213, is a good replacement for the Flojet 4105. I believe that the UP2-P 24 volt pump will output about 5 liter/min when connected to 12 volts and draw about 1.5 amps. To expand on Scott's statement about replacing brushes, Marco part number R6400080 (R-KIT motor cap ø52 mm) costs 24.93€ from www.Marco.it, or $28.56 from www.marco-pumps.com (more about this source below). This motor cap has the brushes installed. I believe that the best process is to simply replace this cap (photo below).The more adventurous could probably find and solder brushes to the existing cap. There is another source for Marco Pumps, shipping Marco pumps, worldwide from Vienna: www.marco-pumps.com You will find almost all Marco pumps at this site (soon to be 100% of them), and a huge selection of Marco Pump Parts (Spares and Accessories). This source regularly ships to all of Europe AND is especially good for shipping to the USA, because they have a flat rate of $15 to ship to the US via USPS. They are now one of about 25 of the Preferred Vendors to Amel Yacht Owners School. The Preferred Vendor Discounts range from 5% to 20% on Amel OEM parts, equivatents, and services. I will share the Preferred Vendor Discount code for Yacht School clients with www.marco-pumps.com.
I have never done this before in this group. The Preferred Vender codes have always only been available to my clients, but I will make the exception this time. If you choose to order from www.marco-pumps.com, use code AMELSCHOOL to receive an additional 5%. Frankly, it appears that www.marco-pumps.com may be the best place to buy Marco Pump Parts (Spares and Accessories). They appear to stock a wider variety than www.Marco.it or the Marco US distributor www.mate-usa.com DISCLAIMERS: I receive absolutely nothing when my clients order from Preferred Vendors. We do not have much history or experience with www.marco-pumps.com. At this point, I know of only one Amel owner who has ordered from them. --
On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:54 PM Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:
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Re: Annapolis Boat Show
Alan Grayson
Hi Mike, 5.00ish it is.
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Regards Alan Grayson SM406 Ora Pai From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io <mdondra@...>
Sent: Monday, 7 October 2019 6:32:17 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show I checked with Davis’ Pub (Eastport) for Thursday evening. They do not take reservations but said they are not too busy between 5:00 and 6:00 so seating for 10 or so should not be a problem. Let’s shoot for 5:30. Alan and Kent/Iris have expressed interest in dinner. All are welcome aboard Aletes earlier in the afternoon to talk about the exciting topic of Amel maintenance. Please confirm attendance at either event. Looking forward it! Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240
From: Mike Ondra <mdondra@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 5, 2019 9:08 AM To: 'main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io' <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: RE: [AmelYachtOwners] Annapolis Boat Show
For the maintenance/repairs “forum” (sounds way too formal) I have RSVP’s so far from Jay Pokorski and Charles (SV Saturn). We’ll meet on Aletes (anchored at the mouth of Back Creek…unless weather pushes an alternative anchorage…will advise) at 2:00 Thursday afternoon. Anyone land based or dinghy deprived that wants to attend let us know and we can arrange a pickup. Anyone is welcome to join us for beverages and dinner afterwards at Davis’ Pub. Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via Groups.Io
Aletes would like to host an Amel maintenance/repair forum on board either Thurs or Friday afternoon of Boat Show week. The idea would be to share everyone’s experiences with some of the unique equipment on our vessels.
Possible topics, and please add to the list, might include: Bow Thrusters, furling gearboxes (motorized and manual), battery strategies, deck finish (restoration and striping), anti-fouling, hard-won lessons and other tricks.
We’ll do it if there is interest, so let me know which day and additional topics. Bring your issues and get the insights of others.
Mike Ondra Aletes SM#240 Rock Hall, Chesapeake Bay
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Re: Eno oven flows gas WITHOUT flame
Scott SV Tengah
Thomas,
The process I have implemented is that we turn off the solenoid FIRST and then the gas knobs. But humans, especially new/temporary visiting crew not used to doing that on land, sometimes make mistakes, despite all my red tape and written/verbal reminders that gas is dangerous. I want to fix the technical issue as relying on perfect process alone is a recipe for disaster IMO. Anyone else with knowledge/ideas? -- Scott 2007 A54 #69 SV Tengah http://www.svtengah.com
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