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Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Yes they do and the mechanical gay was experiment with AMEL SM

Merci

JLMERTZ


Le 21/06/2019 à 10:52, eric freedman a écrit :

Did they use the special alignment tool when installing the engine back into the C drive?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

 

Hello everyone

I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.

Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.

Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay


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Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Super Nick,

It is exactly my conclusion bat the two fixed prop are perfect, so I could not image it could be possible ...

Before to turn back to Autoprop (actually as spare) I will check the big bolt on the bottom of the C-drive that fixed it  on the keel ...

Merci beaucoup for your help full answer ...

Jean Luc MERTZ

on CottonBay



Le 21/06/2019 à 08:50, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io a écrit :
On my last boat I used to have a fixed three blade prop and there was some vibration. It was a traditional shaft  and stern tube arrangement. I spent ages realigning the engine. Then I pulled the shaft and sent it with the prop to a machine shop. The shaft was true but the prop was not balanced properly. I decided to buy a feathering prop and keep the old as a spare. No more vibration....So it could be the prop.
Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 08:43, "jlm@..." <jlm@...> wrote:

Hello everyone
I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.
Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.
Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay

Garanti sans virus. www.avast.com


Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi Bill,
On the 54 there is a bolt covered in black mastic from the bottom of the C drive to the iron keel. Presumably this anchors the C drive. Is there any adjustments or anything to look out for?
Nick
Amelia AML54-019 in Gaios Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 16:34, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

On a C-Drives older than 1999, don't forget to check the C-Drive foot for side-to-side movement by pushing on the aft end of the foot. No more than 8-10mm. If you have more, remove the foot bolt to the ballast and replace the bushing which is made of heavy rubber hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 4:28 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.
>
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Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

 

On a C-Drives older than 1999, don't forget to check the C-Drive foot for side-to-side movement by pushing on the aft end of the foot. No more than 8-10mm. If you have more, remove the foot bolt to the ballast and replace the bushing which is made of heavy rubber hose. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners
www.YachtSchool.us
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019, 4:28 AM ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick
> On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:
>
> I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.
>
>
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>





Re: Eberspacher 5L diesel heater

Alan Grayson
 

Hi Duane, what were your symptoms? How long does it run on heat mode? Does the thermostat shut it down when it's warm?
Mine runs for about 7 mins just fine then stops. It has done this for a while but I have never been in a temp below 70 degrees. Tomorrow is forecast for 64 so I will try again.
Who did you have work on it as I can't seem to find anyone?
Regards
Alan Grayson
SV Ora Pai. SM 406
Washington DC
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Sent: Friday, 21 June 2019 3:07:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Eberspacher 5L diesel heater
 
Hi all,

We have the 5L diesel heater on Wanderer.  It wasn't working when we bought the boat, and I had it checked when we were in Jamestown last August.  The tech right away found it was the PCB that was the problem, "corrosion".  He replaced it and Voila! it worked!  He told me to run the heater once a month to keep it dry.

What I really liked about this unit, is that when it's raining and the boat is closed up, we can turn on the "ventilation" mode where only the fan runs but no diesel is burned.  It brings in outside air and keeps the boat cooler.  Also, when it's cold, it takes outside air with low humidity, heats it, lowering the relative humidity even more resulting in less humidity problems in the winter.

Now ten months later we're back to it doesn't work and it has the same symptoms.  It seems the PCB is again corroded.  The PCB runs $250.  Has anyone else had this problem?   Is the unit not made for marine service?  Most of the videos I've seen for repair advice are related to van installations.  I plan to hit liberally with some Corrosion-X but not sure that's a solution.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Boston E 14, new Bamar Furler

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

The old E14 will work fine.
Jeff s/v Spirit Amel 54 #14

On June 20, 2019 at 12:54 PM Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...> wrote:

I bought a Boxtron E14 in January 17. The unit that was delivered recently together with the new Furler looks the same to me. Am I missing something or can I just leave the existing E14 in place when changing the furler HW?

Best regards,
Alex
SY NO STRESS 
AMEL54 #15
 

 


Re: Eberspacher 5L diesel heater

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi,
I spray all electrical connections with marine crc, or WD 40 or Corrosion x. All work for me and avoid these corrosion problems.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 21 June 2019 at 19:11 Dave Ritten <daveritten@...> wrote:


Sounds like you should consider applying a “conformal coating” to the PCB. This is like a thick lacquer that prevents corrosion and is a standard process in preparing PCBs for harsh environments. It is s PITA for manufacturers as they have to mask off connectors, relays etc but pretty easy to do on a one off retrofit basis. Most electronics hobbyist stores carry spray cans of the stuff. I had same problem with the rear SAM (computer) module in my Merc and gave a spray coating and no more issues. Hope this helps.
Dave

--
Dave Ritten
Auckland
Prospective SM Owner



Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

ngtnewington Newington
 

Hi I am at Lakka, but moving round to Gaios this pm.
Nick

On 21 Jun 2019, at 10:36, arthur saftlas <art@...> wrote:

I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.




Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

eric freedman
 

Did they use the special alignment tool when installing the engine back into the C drive?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of jlm@...
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 1:44 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

 

Hello everyone

I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.

Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.

Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay


Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

arthur saftlas
 

I have heard Yanmar is particularly bad with going thru mounts. Some engines do not run smoothly, some do.


Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

Barry Connor
 

Hi Nick, we are anchored outside next to the power boat. Would you like to come for coffee.

Barry and Penny 
“Lady Penelope II”
Amel 54. #17
Paxos Greece


On Jun 21, 2019, at 09:50, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

On my last boat I used to have a fixed three blade prop and there was some vibration. It was a traditional shaft  and stern tube arrangement. I spent ages realigning the engine. Then I pulled the shaft and sent it with the prop to a machine shop. The shaft was true but the prop was not balanced properly. I decided to buy a feathering prop and keep the old as a spare. No more vibration....So it could be the prop.
Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 08:43, "jlm@..." <jlm@...> wrote:

Hello everyone
I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.
Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.
Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay


Re: Eberspacher 5L diesel heater

Dave Ritten
 

Sounds like you should consider applying a “conformal coating” to the PCB. This is like a thick lacquer that prevents corrosion and is a standard process in preparing PCBs for harsh environments. It is s PITA for manufacturers as they have to mask off connectors, relays etc but pretty easy to do on a one off retrofit basis. Most electronics hobbyist stores carry spray cans of the stuff. I had same problem with the rear SAM (computer) module in my Merc and gave a spray coating and no more issues. Hope this helps.
Dave

--
Dave Ritten
Auckland
Prospective SM Owner


Re: super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

ngtnewington Newington
 

On my last boat I used to have a fixed three blade prop and there was some vibration. It was a traditional shaft  and stern tube arrangement. I spent ages realigning the engine. Then I pulled the shaft and sent it with the prop to a machine shop. The shaft was true but the prop was not balanced properly. I decided to buy a feathering prop and keep the old as a spare. No more vibration....So it could be the prop.
Nick
Amelia AML 54-019 Paxos


On 21 Jun 2019, at 08:43, "jlm@..." <jlm@...> wrote:

Hello everyone
I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.
Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.
Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay


super maramu, vibrations generated when the engine is running

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hello everyone
I have two friends who have a SM (1997 and 1999) who after having changed all the mounts  and the coupling of the engine have a significant residual vibration.
Both have the distinction of having a fixed three-blade propeller.
Would there be in our group a person who had this problem or could have a track?
Jean Luc
CottonBay


Eberspacher 5L diesel heater

Duane Siegfri
 

Hi all,

We have the 5L diesel heater on Wanderer.  It wasn't working when we bought the boat, and I had it checked when we were in Jamestown last August.  The tech right away found it was the PCB that was the problem, "corrosion".  He replaced it and Voila! it worked!  He told me to run the heater once a month to keep it dry.

What I really liked about this unit, is that when it's raining and the boat is closed up, we can turn on the "ventilation" mode where only the fan runs but no diesel is burned.  It brings in outside air and keeps the boat cooler.  Also, when it's cold, it takes outside air with low humidity, heats it, lowering the relative humidity even more resulting in less humidity problems in the winter.

Now ten months later we're back to it doesn't work and it has the same symptoms.  It seems the PCB is again corroded.  The PCB runs $250.  Has anyone else had this problem?   Is the unit not made for marine service?  Most of the videos I've seen for repair advice are related to van installations.  I plan to hit liberally with some Corrosion-X but not sure that's a solution.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477


Re: Furuno Weather Fax do not get much and have switched to Navtex but to be frank the internet apps are more practical. Depends where you are.

smiles bernard
 

I love mine and have been using it daily across the North Atlantic trip to Azores. Great images from Boston and now Northwood. Very easy to use - just leave it running and check it in the forecast schedules you want

Miles
Maramu 167


On 17 Jun 2019, at 19:11, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Nick again, I have to admit though that it is probably going to be a service that will not survive the internet. It is free to the user and paid for by presumably various government agencies. This kind of “soft” power was very valuable in the good old days. Now I am not sure. A bit like the BBC world service.......or VOA.
Nick
Amelia Corfu town 
AML 54-019


On 17 Jun 2019, at 21:56, ngtnewington Newington via Groups.Io <ngtnewington@...> wrote:

Love my weather fax but it depends where. Across the North Atlantic, Halifax Nova Scotia pumped out great charts as did UK. In the Med it is a different story. 
Nick
Amelia in Corfu 
AML 54-019



On 17 Jun 2019, at 04:41, James Cromie via Groups.Io <jamescromie@...> wrote:

Hello everyone - 

I'd like to ask of those on the forum who uses their Weatherfax units?  I don't even know to use the one on my boat.  It seems to me that it may be a legacy item and no longer serves much use because of newer and less bulky technology.

I'd like to know how many of you use this!

Thanks!
James
Soteria SM347.  Le Marin


Re: supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

Mark Erdos
 

Jose,

 

Very cool!

 

Two questions: Did you have to modify the ballooner and add a gaiter? Where do you attach it to on the foredeck?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Vista Mar, Panama

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jose Venegas via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2019 6:27 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] supplemental downwind sailing configuration for Super Maramu

 

James,
I have an asymmetric spy on a top-down furling RollGen 20 by Bamar. 
Spy dimensions:

Luff=17.07mtr

Leech=15.4 mtr

Foot=7.9mtr

SMG=7.105mtr

I have enjoyed it for more than 6 years with the main advantage of being able to deploy and furl back with just my wife, something that is a major plus for me.  Also, it takes a lot of turns to furl but we use the electric winch to do it.

It is also important to make sure that the apparent wind is not less than 90 degrees or more than ~150 degrees to furl correctly.

A couple of times we totally lost all wind and furling could be done poorly and had to be redone as soon as we got back some wind. 
Here are a couple of  pix of Ipanema under spy

Jose 
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Boston
 asym.

 


Re: Chesapeake Bay mooring/slip for 2 months?

Mark McGovern
 

We keep our boat at Herrington Harbor North (https://www.herringtonharbour.com/north/)  They also operate another marina just 1 mile south (https://www.herringtonharbour.com/south/)  They are about 20 miles south of Annapolis.  Neither is cheap but both are very nice and very well run.  North has a West Marine onsite and a great hardware store a mile away. 
  
--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Deale, MD USA


Re: Chesapeake Bay mooring/slip for 2 months?

Gary Wells
 

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 08:48 AM, Scott SV Tengah wrote:
the

Hi Scott, 

We are currently at Hartge's Yacht Harbor in Galesville, MD.  and I can wholeheartedly recommend it.  I believe I could score you a $750/mo rate for a slip (+ a bit for electricity, but water and wifi is free).  It's about 15 miles south of Annapolis proper and about half to one-third the cost of a closer spot.

About 50 minutes' drive to the DC area (well.. add two hours for rush traffic) or to a Metro.

Annapolis has pretty much everything you could think of as far as boating support and some pretty good eateries.  The only downside to Hartge's is the need for a car to get around. 

I recommend it regularly as we have had very good support here and the staff is fairly amazing.

 

Gary W
SM 209, Adagio

Maryland, USA

 


Re: bow locker water.

Gary Silver
 

Bill beat me to the punch with mentioning the hawse pipe as a source of water ingress.   The hawse pipe on my boat (Hull # 335) had chaffed and corroded through at the ceiling of the bow locker.  The rust had caused the fiberglass in the area to crack and split.  During a recent sail we had water in the two forward lockers from this source.  Replacing with a stainless steel 3 inch OD (0.25 inch wall diameter) tubing in 316L SS (pricy at $10 US per inch) but it should be good for a long time.

Gary S. Silver
s/v Liahona   Amel SM 2000 # 335
Puerto Del Rey  Marina, Fajardo Puerto Rico